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Re: JFW friendly Internet relay chat

Frank Ventura
 

Thanks, is there a link to it somewhere?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 7:16 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JFW friendly Internet relay chat

Last I knew, mIRC with Speech is still the only one worth even trying.
It's easy to set up, but because it has many good features, it's a little complex to use. But if you're a dedicated IRC'er, you'll get the hang of it.

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:37:33 -0600, you wrote:

Hi all can anyone recommend an accessible IRC (Internet relay chat) client that works with JFW and how to btain scripts if necessary?
Thanks


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Re: Blatant Rant

Angel
 

Freedom Scientific will give your authorization number to you if you call. I suspect the same can be gotten by e-mail. I know when I had to reformat my computer I asked for mine; and they were most accommodating.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: "jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
Subject: Blatant Rant


I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.

I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.

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AZ Cardfile & Jaws

Crystal French
 

Hi,
I am using Windows 7 Home Premium, and the latest version of Jaws 14.
I have downloaded the trial version of AZ Cardfile, version 4.
It, of course, has more bells and whistles than the beloved old Cardfile program.
If there is anyone using this program who can share some tips on using it, I sure would appreciate it.
It does appear to be useable, but I am wondering about shortcuts, or what might make it more Jaws friendly.
Thanks, and, also, if someone is using the version 3 and find it works betters with Jaws, please let me know that.
Crystal
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Re: Blatant Rant

James Homuth
 

Your authorization number only changes in the event you've let your SMA
lapse and need a new one. If you renew your existing one, you keep the same
serial number and authorization number. I've had mine since I'm not entirely
sure when and it's never changed. As for the authorization number, I think
FS will provide that to you over the phone if you ask for it. At least, they
used to. That's kind of a non-issue over here since it's stored in a text
file, and that text file's in 5 or 6 different places, but I believe that's
how I obtained it since, like you, I didn't keep the old install package
from a version of JAWS that was forever and a half ago, and I know I've
changed computers etc since then.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: March 24, 2013 2:25 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Blatant Rant

Different issue, Aidan. You're quite right that the number doesn't change.
I'm only agreeing with what I take to be Steve's point that we need
occasional reminders, such as each time a new version is shipped. I bet most
JAWS users have trashed their old JAWS CD/DVD packages without remembering
that 6.0 had both a braille record of the authorization number and the
authorization disc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Blatant Rant

As far as I get it, you will only get a new number once you either
upgrade, or once you get a new SMA. So if you have a active SMA wich
run for 2 years, then after 1 year, you will not get a new number
because the SMA is stil running. So the 20 digit number only change
when you upgrrade or renew SMA.

On 24/03/2013, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS
provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I
agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to obtain
such basic information.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant

I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.

I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.

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Re: Blatant Rant

Adrian Spratt
 

Different issue, Aidan. You're quite right that the number doesn't change.
I'm only agreeing with what I take to be Steve's point that we need
occasional reminders, such as each time a new version is shipped. I bet most
JAWS users have trashed their old JAWS CD/DVD packages without remembering
that 6.0 had both a braille record of the authorization number and the
authorization disc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Blatant Rant

As far as I get it, you will only get a new number once you either
upgrade, or once you get a new SMA. So if you have a active SMA wich
run for 2 years, then after 1 year, you will not get a new number
because the SMA is stil running. So the 20 digit number only change
when you upgrrade or renew SMA.

On 24/03/2013, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS
provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I
agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to obtain
such basic information.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant

I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.

I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.

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Re: Blatant Rant

Tom Lange
 

Hi,
I'd be willing to bet that the full 20-character authorization key is somewhere in the Registry, and that there's got to be some way to find it if you're (a) knowledgeable about navigating it and (b) willing to do some digging. That information should be stored in some sort of registry variable and, if so, using regedit's search capability should let you find it. Can any of you out there confirm this?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 24, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com> wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to obtain
such basic information.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant

I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.

I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.

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Re: Blatant Rant

Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@...>
 

As far as I get it, you will only get a new number once you either
upgrade, or once you get a new SMA. So if you have a active SMA wich
run for 2 years, then after 1 year, you will not get a new number
because the SMA is stil running. So the 20 digit number only change
when you upgrrade or renew SMA.

On 24/03/2013, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to obtain
such basic information.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant

I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.

I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.

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Re: Blatant Rant

Adrian Spratt
 

If I'm not mistaken, the authorization number and extra CD came with JAWS
6.0. I've kept that version around here for that reason. I hope FS provides
this info and CD whenever someone signs up for the first time. But I agree,
we shouldn't have to rely on the packaging of a JAWS release from seven
versions ago, nor should we have to wait through a whole weekend to obtain
such basic information.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:38 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Blatant Rant

I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.

I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.

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Re: Blatant Rant

Dave...
 

Since you didn't record that number in a file somewhere, you will need to
wait until tomorrow, when you can call FS and ask them.

Annoying, but resolved with keeping a list of all your relevant
authorization, CD key, serial numbers, etc. in a text file somewhere.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: "jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 05:38
Subject: Blatant Rant


I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.

I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.

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Blatant Rant

Steve Matzura
 

I went to register JAWS yesterday and made a startling and annoying
discovery. In order to register and license your copy of JAWS using
the Internet License Management facility, you need an authorization
number which, according to Freedom Scientific's FS activation page, in
both print and braille on the sleeve of the installation program CD.
OH yeah? Then the dots must be hidden, and the print is either
white-on-white or black-on-black, because nobody in my house, blind or
not, could find such a thing, and we looked on two different versions
that came in two different packages.

I suspect that what's really going on here is that somewhere, way back
when I first got JAWS with the serial number I'm currently using,
which was new for version 4.0 which was the first one to run on
Windows NT and above, the box it came in definitely did have an
authorization number on a stick-on braille label. Of course, 4.0 is
long, long ago, and so is the packaging in which it came. Since then,
I'm sure when updates come out, they are delivered directly from the
company that stamps out and packages the distribution CD's, so they
can't possibly be personalized with your very own authorization
number. If that's correct, where are we supposed to find this thing?
Inquiring minds wanna know, and answers will be gotten tomorrow
morning when FS technical support opens for business.


Re: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@...>
 

Thanks Dani. I look forward to finding out what the subscription will do
Andre.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dani L Pagador
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:38 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

Hi, andre.
You might want to look in to Sibelius and Sibelius Speaking.
There's an e-mail list for Sib 5.25. The address is:
sib-access-request@freelists.org
Put "subscribe" in the subject line.
I'm a newbie to the program myself.
HTH,
Dani


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 2:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

To John Martyn, or anyone who might know.

Is there scripting for music applications used for orchestral arrangements?
I am trying to write music that could be printed and given to an symphony
orchestra to play. Also is there anything for Masterwriter for lyric and
melody writing?

The last time I looked at Cake Talk with Sonar it wouldn't quite fully do
these things.

Andre Jarreau

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Holdstock
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:37 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

Don't they tend to ship new computers with a 90 day trial of Office instead
of Works now?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Graham Smith
Sent: 21 March 2013 21:51
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

yes, I agree.

I am just so amazed at how the spreadsheet is so unaccessible, and would of
thoughtthe basics of tabbing or arrowing between cells would worrk on all
versions.

Graham
.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary King
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 17:19
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

I've always wondered why Works has never been scripted. It seems to be
thrown in for free on computers and might prove useful for folks who can't
afford MS Office. I have it on my XP netbook. One problem would be which
version to look at for scripting. I don't know how often it's updated.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Smith" <g.smith577@rogers.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: DoItBlind.com to script a new application


Hi John

Microsoft Works has always amazed me why it does not work. I am not sure
if it is still shipped with new computers these days but I know it always
used to be. I have a version of it on this 3 year old hp windows 7
laptop.

I would ideally like the office suite but the amount I would use it really
does not warratnt paying for it.

I use the database on Microsoft works which jaws handles to a fashion and
enables me to use it quite well, but I have no luck with the spreadsheet
side of the program something simple as tabbing between cells just does
not work.

I am pretty sure there are not many people out there using this program,
but I felt that to someone who knows what what they are doing could make
this a lot better than what it is now.

Graham


-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 18:08
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. ; jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

Hi all,

In continued pursuit of scripting new applications, as always, I ask what
we
need to be accessible or more accessible. Quickbooks is indeed being
scripted already and have teamed up with MyBlindSpot.org and others to
make
this happen. Quicken and turbo tax is in the future, but I am looking for
a
much needed application. I have done many music related scripts, and all
your suggestions are being taken into consideration. I am not too familiar
with sound editors and all that you can do with the current ones. Keep in
mind that we cannot script web applications or web sites.

I was considering scripting open office for those that can't afford
Microsoft office and give a solution to those who can't afford Microsoft
office. Smaller applications that do simple tasks might not make the cut
since very few people will use them. Other programs such as virus and
spyware protectors Are out of the question since they change too much.

So, I'm opening up the floor for discussion.

Let's hear some suggestions!

John Martyn

www.DoItBlind.com

Napster is another option for getting new music since Rhapsody only works
in
some regions of the world. Please keep in mind that small applications are
not going

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Re: Erratic Behavior With Jaws

Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

Does JAWS work when you first fully restart your computer? I ask because I
have been having a problem with a JAWS error 6 message which causes jaws to
go in to demo mode and stop working after 40 minutes. If you are perhaps
getting this message or for some other reason jaws is running in demo mode
then you will find when you wake your computer up from sleep that jaws does
nothing as the demo mode has run out during the time the computer was
asleep. Is your jaws running in demo mode at all? Are you getting any
messages?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Sherrer
Sent: 22 March 2013 23:44
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Erratic Behavior With Jaws

I just hit enter on the log on screen since I have no password.
I have tried alt tab.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Erratic Behavior With Jaws

John,

It seems so obvious, but you don't mention here whether you re-enter your
Win7 password.

Assuming that's not the issue, have you tried a refresh with JAWS
key+escape? How about pressing alt+tab to move away from the screen,
release, and then alt+tab again to return to the screen?



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Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:08 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Irratic Behavior With Jaws

Hi JAWS Users

When I close my laptop computer using JAWS 14 in W7 often when I start again
JAWS will tell me about the log on screen and then and I will press endter.
Then JAWS will not speak and I will have to force the computer off and start
again.
I have tried insert + space bar and then S, doing this twice.
I have tried to turn JAWS off and reload, no luck.

John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:54 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: Irratic Behavior With Jaws

Hi All,

I got this link from,
Top Tech Tidbits, discussing handling irratic behavior with Jaws.



4) "Handling Erratic Behavior with AT" is an article that gives systematic
ideas for dealing with JAWS quirks:
http://juicystudio.com/article/handling-erratic-behaviour-at.php



Take care.
Mike
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Re: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

Dani Pagador
 

Hi, andre.
You might want to look in to Sibelius and Sibelius Speaking.
There's an e-mail list for Sib 5.25. The address is:
sib-access-request@freelists.org
Put "subscribe" in the subject line.
I'm a newbie to the program myself.
HTH,
Dani

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 2:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

To John Martyn, or anyone who might know.

Is there scripting for music applications used for orchestral arrangements?
I am trying to write music that could be printed and given to an symphony
orchestra to play. Also is there anything for Masterwriter for lyric and
melody writing?

The last time I looked at Cake Talk with Sonar it wouldn't quite fully do
these things.

Andre Jarreau

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Holdstock
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:37 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

Don't they tend to ship new computers with a 90 day trial of Office instead
of Works now?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Graham Smith
Sent: 21 March 2013 21:51
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

yes, I agree.

I am just so amazed at how the spreadsheet is so unaccessible, and would of
thoughtthe basics of tabbing or arrowing between cells would worrk on all
versions.

Graham
.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary King
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 17:19
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

I've always wondered why Works has never been scripted. It seems to be
thrown in for free on computers and might prove useful for folks who can't
afford MS Office. I have it on my XP netbook. One problem would be which
version to look at for scripting. I don't know how often it's updated.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Smith" <g.smith577@rogers.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: DoItBlind.com to script a new application


Hi John

Microsoft Works has always amazed me why it does not work. I am not sure
if it is still shipped with new computers these days but I know it always
used to be. I have a version of it on this 3 year old hp windows 7
laptop.

I would ideally like the office suite but the amount I would use it really
does not warratnt paying for it.

I use the database on Microsoft works which jaws handles to a fashion and
enables me to use it quite well, but I have no luck with the spreadsheet
side of the program something simple as tabbing between cells just does
not work.

I am pretty sure there are not many people out there using this program,
but I felt that to someone who knows what what they are doing could make
this a lot better than what it is now.

Graham


-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 18:08
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. ; jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

Hi all,

In continued pursuit of scripting new applications, as always, I ask what
we
need to be accessible or more accessible. Quickbooks is indeed being
scripted already and have teamed up with MyBlindSpot.org and others to
make
this happen. Quicken and turbo tax is in the future, but I am looking for
a
much needed application. I have done many music related scripts, and all
your suggestions are being taken into consideration. I am not too familiar
with sound editors and all that you can do with the current ones. Keep in
mind that we cannot script web applications or web sites.

I was considering scripting open office for those that can't afford
Microsoft office and give a solution to those who can't afford Microsoft
office. Smaller applications that do simple tasks might not make the cut
since very few people will use them. Other programs such as virus and
spyware protectors Are out of the question since they change too much.

So, I'm opening up the floor for discussion.

Let's hear some suggestions!

John Martyn

www.DoItBlind.com

Napster is another option for getting new music since Rhapsody only works
in
some regions of the world. Please keep in mind that small applications are
not going

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Re: Irratic Behavior With Jaws

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi John,

Below is the file path to the memory dump fiile that Jaws creates whenever
you invoke the Insert, Windows Key + F4, keystroke. This file path is from
my XP desktop computer but, Windows7 should be close.

C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Application Data\Freedom
Scientific\JAWS\14.0\Settings\JAWSMemDmp

This is in case FS would like to look at the, JAWSMemDmp, file.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Mike B.
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: Irratic Behavior With Jaws


Hi John,

Have you tried unloading Jaws with the keystroke, Insert, Windows Key, + F4
& then reloading Jaws again? I seem to recall having this same problem with
my desktop computer & using the previously mentioned keystroke helped most
of the time but, not all the time. 1 thing about using this keystroke is it
creates a mini dump file that FS can look at & possibly see something wrong.
Are you running the latestJ14 update? I ask because something cleared up
this thing with Jaws 14 not wanting to restart / reload after unloading it &
it seems like it was the installation of the latest update that did it.

HTH

Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Sherrer
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:42 PM
Subject: RE: Irratic Behavior With Jaws


I will do that.
Thanks
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:59 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Irratic Behavior With Jaws

Hi John,

I've heard of others having the same problem. I would suggest that you
contact FS tech support & see if they have a fix for this problem.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Sherrer
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:08 PM
Subject: RE: Irratic Behavior With Jaws


Hi JAWS Users

When I close my laptop computer using JAWS 14 in W7 often when I start again
JAWS will tell me about the log on screen and then and I will press endter.
Then JAWS will not speak and I will have to force the computer off and start
again.
I have tried insert + space bar and then S, doing this twice.
I have tried to turn JAWS off and reload, no luck.

John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:54 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: Irratic Behavior With Jaws

Hi All,

I got this link from,
Top Tech Tidbits, discussing handling irratic behavior with Jaws.



4) "Handling Erratic Behavior with AT" is an article that gives systematic
ideas for dealing with JAWS quirks:
http://juicystudio.com/article/handling-erratic-behaviour-at.php



Take care.
Mike
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IE 10, jaws 14, and google preferences

Philip Hall <p.hall.eml1@...>
 

I am running jaws v14.0.1534. I installed IE 10 under windows 7 pro 64-bit.

When I attempt to make changes to my preferences on the

www.google.com/preferences

page, I am not able to interact with most of the forms. I cannot check one
of the radio buttons for setting instant results.

Also, the check box for having result pages opened in a new window is
missing, and the save button is also missing.

I uninstalled IE 10, and everything is back to "normal".

Does anyone know if this problem might be an IE 10 issue, or how jaws is
working with ie 10?



Thanks

Phil



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Re: Irratic Behavior With Jaws

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi John,

Have you tried unloading Jaws with the keystroke, Insert, Windows Key, + F4
& then reloading Jaws again? I seem to recall having this same problem with
my desktop computer & using the previously mentioned keystroke helped most
of the time but, not all the time. 1 thing about using this keystroke is it
creates a mini dump file that FS can look at & possibly see something wrong.
Are you running the latestJ14 update? I ask because something cleared up
this thing with Jaws 14 not wanting to restart / reload after unloading it &
it seems like it was the installation of the latest update that did it.

HTH

Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Sherrer
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:42 PM
Subject: RE: Irratic Behavior With Jaws


I will do that.
Thanks
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:59 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Irratic Behavior With Jaws

Hi John,

I've heard of others having the same problem. I would suggest that you
contact FS tech support & see if they have a fix for this problem.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Sherrer
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:08 PM
Subject: RE: Irratic Behavior With Jaws


Hi JAWS Users

When I close my laptop computer using JAWS 14 in W7 often when I start again
JAWS will tell me about the log on screen and then and I will press endter.
Then JAWS will not speak and I will have to force the computer off and start
again.
I have tried insert + space bar and then S, doing this twice.
I have tried to turn JAWS off and reload, no luck.

John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:54 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: Irratic Behavior With Jaws

Hi All,

I got this link from,
Top Tech Tidbits, discussing handling irratic behavior with Jaws.



4) "Handling Erratic Behavior with AT" is an article that gives systematic
ideas for dealing with JAWS quirks:
http://juicystudio.com/article/handling-erratic-behaviour-at.php



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Re: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@...>
 

To John Martyn, or anyone who might know.

Is there scripting for music applications used for orchestral arrangements?
I am trying to write music that could be printed and given to an symphony
orchestra to play. Also is there anything for Masterwriter for lyric and
melody writing?

The last time I looked at Cake Talk with Sonar it wouldn't quite fully do
these things.

Andre Jarreau

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Holdstock
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:37 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

Don't they tend to ship new computers with a 90 day trial of Office instead
of Works now?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Graham Smith
Sent: 21 March 2013 21:51
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

yes, I agree.

I am just so amazed at how the spreadsheet is so unaccessible, and would of
thoughtthe basics of tabbing or arrowing between cells would worrk on all
versions.

Graham
.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary King
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 17:19
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

I've always wondered why Works has never been scripted. It seems to be
thrown in for free on computers and might prove useful for folks who can't
afford MS Office. I have it on my XP netbook. One problem would be which
version to look at for scripting. I don't know how often it's updated.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Smith" <g.smith577@rogers.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: DoItBlind.com to script a new application


Hi John

Microsoft Works has always amazed me why it does not work. I am not sure
if it is still shipped with new computers these days but I know it always
used to be. I have a version of it on this 3 year old hp windows 7
laptop.

I would ideally like the office suite but the amount I would use it really
does not warratnt paying for it.

I use the database on Microsoft works which jaws handles to a fashion and
enables me to use it quite well, but I have no luck with the spreadsheet
side of the program something simple as tabbing between cells just does
not work.

I am pretty sure there are not many people out there using this program,
but I felt that to someone who knows what what they are doing could make
this a lot better than what it is now.

Graham


-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 18:08
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. ; jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

Hi all,

In continued pursuit of scripting new applications, as always, I ask what
we
need to be accessible or more accessible. Quickbooks is indeed being
scripted already and have teamed up with MyBlindSpot.org and others to
make
this happen. Quicken and turbo tax is in the future, but I am looking for
a
much needed application. I have done many music related scripts, and all
your suggestions are being taken into consideration. I am not too familiar
with sound editors and all that you can do with the current ones. Keep in
mind that we cannot script web applications or web sites.

I was considering scripting open office for those that can't afford
Microsoft office and give a solution to those who can't afford Microsoft
office. Smaller applications that do simple tasks might not make the cut
since very few people will use them. Other programs such as virus and
spyware protectors Are out of the question since they change too much.

So, I'm opening up the floor for discussion.

Let's hear some suggestions!

John Martyn

www.DoItBlind.com

Napster is another option for getting new music since Rhapsody only works
in
some regions of the world. Please keep in mind that small applications are
not going

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Re: Erratic Behavior With Jaws

John ESherrer
 

I just hit enter on the log on screen since I have no password.
I have tried alt tab.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Erratic Behavior With Jaws

John,

It seems so obvious, but you don't mention here whether you re-enter your
Win7 password.

Assuming that's not the issue, have you tried a refresh with JAWS
key+escape? How about pressing alt+tab to move away from the screen,
release, and then alt+tab again to return to the screen?



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Sherrer
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:08 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Irratic Behavior With Jaws

Hi JAWS Users

When I close my laptop computer using JAWS 14 in W7 often when I start again
JAWS will tell me about the log on screen and then and I will press endter.
Then JAWS will not speak and I will have to force the computer off and start
again.
I have tried insert + space bar and then S, doing this twice.
I have tried to turn JAWS off and reload, no luck.

John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:54 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: Irratic Behavior With Jaws

Hi All,

I got this link from,
Top Tech Tidbits, discussing handling irratic behavior with Jaws.



4) "Handling Erratic Behavior with AT" is an article that gives systematic
ideas for dealing with JAWS quirks:
http://juicystudio.com/article/handling-erratic-behaviour-at.php



Take care.
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Re: Irratic Behavior With Jaws

John ESherrer
 

I will do that.
Thanks
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:59 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Irratic Behavior With Jaws

Hi John,

I've heard of others having the same problem. I would suggest that you
contact FS tech support & see if they have a fix for this problem.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Sherrer
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:08 PM
Subject: RE: Irratic Behavior With Jaws


Hi JAWS Users

When I close my laptop computer using JAWS 14 in W7 often when I start again
JAWS will tell me about the log on screen and then and I will press endter.
Then JAWS will not speak and I will have to force the computer off and start
again.
I have tried insert + space bar and then S, doing this twice.
I have tried to turn JAWS off and reload, no luck.

John Sherrer

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:54 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: Irratic Behavior With Jaws

Hi All,

I got this link from,
Top Tech Tidbits, discussing handling irratic behavior with Jaws.



4) "Handling Erratic Behavior with AT" is an article that gives systematic
ideas for dealing with JAWS quirks:
http://juicystudio.com/article/handling-erratic-behaviour-at.php



Take care.
Mike
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Re: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

Don't they tend to ship new computers with a 90 day trial of Office instead
of Works now?

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Graham Smith
Sent: 21 March 2013 21:51
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

yes, I agree.

I am just so amazed at how the spreadsheet is so unaccessible, and would of
thoughtthe basics of tabbing or arrowing between cells would worrk on all
versions.

Graham
.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary King
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 17:19
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

I've always wondered why Works has never been scripted. It seems to be
thrown in for free on computers and might prove useful for folks who can't
afford MS Office. I have it on my XP netbook. One problem would be which
version to look at for scripting. I don't know how often it's updated.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Smith" <g.smith577@rogers.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: DoItBlind.com to script a new application


Hi John

Microsoft Works has always amazed me why it does not work. I am not sure
if it is still shipped with new computers these days but I know it always
used to be. I have a version of it on this 3 year old hp windows 7
laptop.

I would ideally like the office suite but the amount I would use it really
does not warratnt paying for it.

I use the database on Microsoft works which jaws handles to a fashion and
enables me to use it quite well, but I have no luck with the spreadsheet
side of the program something simple as tabbing between cells just does
not work.

I am pretty sure there are not many people out there using this program,
but I felt that to someone who knows what what they are doing could make
this a lot better than what it is now.

Graham


-----Original Message-----
From: John Martyn
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 18:08
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. ; jawsscripts@freelists.org
Subject: DoItBlind.com to script a new application

Hi all,

In continued pursuit of scripting new applications, as always, I ask what
we
need to be accessible or more accessible. Quickbooks is indeed being
scripted already and have teamed up with MyBlindSpot.org and others to
make
this happen. Quicken and turbo tax is in the future, but I am looking for
a
much needed application. I have done many music related scripts, and all
your suggestions are being taken into consideration. I am not too familiar
with sound editors and all that you can do with the current ones. Keep in
mind that we cannot script web applications or web sites.

I was considering scripting open office for those that can't afford
Microsoft office and give a solution to those who can't afford Microsoft
office. Smaller applications that do simple tasks might not make the cut
since very few people will use them. Other programs such as virus and
spyware protectors Are out of the question since they change too much.

So, I'm opening up the floor for discussion.

Let's hear some suggestions!

John Martyn

www.DoItBlind.com

Napster is another option for getting new music since Rhapsody only works
in
some regions of the world. Please keep in mind that small applications are
not going

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