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Re: IE/Firefox and Crashes

douglas richard dexheimer
 

I'll add my thanks too, although there was one site where I kept getting a crash and "send error report." I had to keep going to Ninite and checking/unchecking different Flash Players then repeating the installation to see how IE would behave after I made the changes.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
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Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-901-7306
cell 913-244-0612
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Anderson" <p.anderson@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 4:44 PM
Subject: RE: IE/Firefox and Crashes


Thank you for sharing this link. Most useful.

Philip

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: 16 February 2013 17:44
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: IE/Firefox and Crashes

Douglas,

The link below should take you to a webpage that enables you to download a
slew of free programs without risk of also installing unwanted applications
like Google Chrome. Search for "flash." The first item is the flash player
for all browsers except IE and the second is for IE only. Each item has a
checkbox above it. In your case, press spacebar on the first of these
checkboxes.

Then press b to take you to the install all selected options button. After
that, follow the download and run prompts.

Note that once you download this small Ninet application, you needn't do so
again. Save it where you'll remember and run it from time to time to catch
updates.

Here's the link:

http://ninite.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Douglas
Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: IE/Firefox and Crashes

How do I get the non-IE version of Flash Player for those streaming audio
sites that don't work in Firefox but might work in IE, so IE won't crash and

prompt me with a "send/don't send" error dialog? Should I uninstall the IE
version of Flash Player before downloading the non-IE version? I might lose

some of my streaming stations altogether: either I'll hear no sound when I
go to the particular sites, or I'll be prompted to install missing plugins
and not know where to locate them.
Someone sent a bulletin explaining how to change the filter settings in
"about:config" using Firefox, so FF will work better in sites that use Flash

content, but this procedure doesn't apply to IE. Hope I'm clear this time.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-901-7306
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: IE/Firefox and Crashes


Doug,

I for one didn't reply because I do not stream radio, and didn't
understand
the overall nature of your question. You seem to be asking about both why
IE
is crashing, as well as finding flash content for Firefox? And now you
are
asking about a config file.

Your Firefox seems pretty ancient, by the way -- it is up to version 18
now.

So, I'll bite...Can you restate your original question?

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 08:52
Subject: Re: IE/Firefox and Crashes


I sent this a couple months ago but got no reply; thanks for your time.
The
"about:config" file works in Firefox but not IE.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-901-7306
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: IE/Firefox and Crashes


Some streaming radio links don't work/play using Firefox, and when I
paste
the URL into IE I get a crash and error report. Once I go to adobe.com
or
oldapps.com, how do I get the non-IE version of Flash? Please direct me
to which links to proceed in which order. (I'm using Firefox 3.6.19 and
IE 8.00.6001.19165) Thanks, and a Merry Christmas to all.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-901-7306
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill White" <billwhite92701@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: Firefox and Crashes


I use firefox 13, and I found that to make flash work with websites, it
is
necessary to use the non-Internet Explorer versions of flash player
available through adobe.com or from oldapps.com

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: Firefox and Crashes


Over a year ago I mentioned that when I visit sites containg flash
content, using IE, I get a crash and error report dialog. My question
never got answered; Dave just sent a blank reply, and when I asked what
he said, there was no further discussion.
How do I configure IE so it won't crash when I go to sites using Flash?
Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-901-7306
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 5:57 AM
Subject: Firefox and Crashes


By the way, if you're finding that Firefox crashes on you on certain
sites containing flash, check out this bulletin.
http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_support/BulletinView.asp?QC=1410

Chris



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Re: outlook 2007

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Oops, must've confused alt n with something else. I will try it on the
machine that has 07 at work on Tuesday.
I must be confusing something somewhere lol.
Wait, try alt h followed by A followed by s.
I know what I am doing now? Alt m brings up where you can send from a
different mail account in outlook 2010. I thought alt A would do that in
07. So, alt h A S should bring up a dialog where you can select a
signature.
Sorry, lots of sh** going on in my life so brain is everywhere lol.


Kimsan Song
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:07 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: outlook 2007

Kimsan,

Alt+n just brings focus to the Insert Tab in the ribbon.

Alt+a beeps.

These are both done from an open message that I'm composing.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 09:03
Subject: RE: outlook 2007


I will not be at an outlook 07 machine until Tuesday but I use to press two
keys and a list of signitures will appear and I can press enter on the one I
want, so when you do alt n or alt a? What happens Dave? This is after the
email form is open, of course.


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:54 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: outlook 2007

Kimsan,

I've never changed my signature in Outlook 2007, so of course was curious.
Alt, n, g. All separate taps, since you're working with the ribbon.

This opens the dialog where you can select new, reply, or create .


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 08:46
Subject: outlook 2007


Ok, I do not remember, so someone with outlook 2007 please chime in and hope
that you have more than one signature.

When an email messaged is opened with all of the necessary fields filled in,
and if if wanting to bring up the list of signitures, you can do which
keystroke? Alt a or alt n?

I know here in 2010, its alt m but I can't remember for 07. Why can't they
just keep it the same as newer versions come out lol.

I mean, we went from alt n, alt (what ever it is for 07) to alt m?

Once more this is to manually add a signature that you have already created
in 07 and I cannot remember if the keystroke alt A or is it alt n in outlook
2007.

I turn 32 next Sunday, this old age is killing me!





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Re: IE/Firefox and Crashes

Philip Anderson <p.anderson@...>
 

Thank you for sharing this link. Most useful.

Philip

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: 16 February 2013 17:44
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: IE/Firefox and Crashes

Douglas,

The link below should take you to a webpage that enables you to download a
slew of free programs without risk of also installing unwanted applications
like Google Chrome. Search for "flash." The first item is the flash player
for all browsers except IE and the second is for IE only. Each item has a
checkbox above it. In your case, press spacebar on the first of these
checkboxes.

Then press b to take you to the install all selected options button. After
that, follow the download and run prompts.

Note that once you download this small Ninet application, you needn't do so
again. Save it where you'll remember and run it from time to time to catch
updates.

Here's the link:

http://ninite.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Douglas
Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: IE/Firefox and Crashes

How do I get the non-IE version of Flash Player for those streaming audio
sites that don't work in Firefox but might work in IE, so IE won't crash and

prompt me with a "send/don't send" error dialog? Should I uninstall the IE
version of Flash Player before downloading the non-IE version? I might lose

some of my streaming stations altogether: either I'll hear no sound when I
go to the particular sites, or I'll be prompted to install missing plugins
and not know where to locate them.
Someone sent a bulletin explaining how to change the filter settings in
"about:config" using Firefox, so FF will work better in sites that use Flash

content, but this procedure doesn't apply to IE. Hope I'm clear this time.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-901-7306
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: IE/Firefox and Crashes


Doug,

I for one didn't reply because I do not stream radio, and didn't
understand
the overall nature of your question. You seem to be asking about both why
IE
is crashing, as well as finding flash content for Firefox? And now you
are
asking about a config file.

Your Firefox seems pretty ancient, by the way -- it is up to version 18
now.

So, I'll bite...Can you restate your original question?

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 08:52
Subject: Re: IE/Firefox and Crashes


I sent this a couple months ago but got no reply; thanks for your time.
The
"about:config" file works in Firefox but not IE.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-901-7306
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: IE/Firefox and Crashes


Some streaming radio links don't work/play using Firefox, and when I
paste
the URL into IE I get a crash and error report. Once I go to adobe.com
or
oldapps.com, how do I get the non-IE version of Flash? Please direct me
to which links to proceed in which order. (I'm using Firefox 3.6.19 and
IE 8.00.6001.19165) Thanks, and a Merry Christmas to all.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-901-7306
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill White" <billwhite92701@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: Firefox and Crashes


I use firefox 13, and I found that to make flash work with websites, it
is
necessary to use the non-Internet Explorer versions of flash player
available through adobe.com or from oldapps.com

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: Firefox and Crashes


Over a year ago I mentioned that when I visit sites containg flash
content, using IE, I get a crash and error report dialog. My question
never got answered; Dave just sent a blank reply, and when I asked what
he said, there was no further discussion.
How do I configure IE so it won't crash when I go to sites using Flash?
Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-901-7306
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 5:57 AM
Subject: Firefox and Crashes


By the way, if you're finding that Firefox crashes on you on certain
sites containing flash, check out this bulletin.
http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_support/BulletinView.asp?QC=1410

Chris



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Re: skype

Philip Anderson <p.anderson@...>
 

Regarding Skype, I use both the latest version as well as GW Connect. GW
Connect in case you don't know, works in conjunction with Skype, but is more
accessible for vi users. Once you have installed it and you've entered your
Skype user name and password, then it works just like Skype, but without the
problems.

Philip

Philip

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of stephen rogers
Sent: 16 February 2013 22:07
To: Jfw@...
Subject: skype

I downloaded the app for gwmicro for skyype but am having retrieving my
password when I do, I try to copy and paste the new password but when I
paste it into the password box of this app clint it doesn't work. So, I
downloaded the latest version of skype. I can't seem to find an edit box to
copy the password to. Perhaps version 6 of skype doesn't work with jaws 14.
What version of skype should I download and what website should I go to to
get it? also on another topic, what client works best with facebook?
someone wrote and said that m.facebook.com was the website, but when I put
that in, ie9 says that its not available using somthing like problems
loading or problems with ie9, can someone give me the website for a blind
friendly client for facebook? I tried going on there to update my profile.
Gave up in utter frustration. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: skype

Philip Anderson <p.anderson@...>
 

I use http://m.facebook.com with IE 9, windows 7 and JAWS 12 without issue.

Philip

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of stephen rogers
Sent: 16 February 2013 22:07
To: Jfw@...
Subject: skype

I downloaded the app for gwmicro for skyype but am having retrieving my
password when I do, I try to copy and paste the new password but when I
paste it into the password box of this app clint it doesn't work. So, I
downloaded the latest version of skype. I can't seem to find an edit box to
copy the password to. Perhaps version 6 of skype doesn't work with jaws 14.
What version of skype should I download and what website should I go to to
get it? also on another topic, what client works best with facebook?
someone wrote and said that m.facebook.com was the website, but when I put
that in, ie9 says that its not available using somthing like problems
loading or problems with ie9, can someone give me the website for a blind
friendly client for facebook? I tried going on there to update my profile.
Gave up in utter frustration. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Window live messenger help Jaws 12 and 13

O.Addison Gethers
 

Hi Nickus,
I know what you mean ,however I will get sighter person to tell me what is on the option menu where it's say general page 1 of 11 !! I'm not going to download the latest skype to add window live messenger in there.

O. Addison Gethers

oag1rotttie@...

Facebook
oag1rottie@...

----- Original Message -----
From: Nickus de Vos
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 2:07 AM
Subject: Re: Window live messenger help Jaws 12 and 13


Hi
I can't help you with your problem but can give you a headsup and some
advice. Don't bother with windows messanger rather switch to sending
messages in skype. The reason I say this is because windows will be
discontinueing windows messanger and from the 15th of March it will
stop working because they want people to rather use skype.

On 1/10/13, O.Addison Gethers <o.addisongethers@...> wrote:
> Hi All,
> Does anybody have window live messenger? If anybody do ,I need your help
> because jaws isn't reading the option menu let me explain what I'm looking
> for ,when you are in main window of window live messenger window then you
> press alt + t for tool menu then press letter o for option then you will
> hear it's say type the name you want other to see ,if you press shift + tab
> then it's will say general page 1 of 11 when I try to down arrow to each
> item jaws isn't reading each item so Can anyone tell me what is all the
> items saying after general page from 1 thru 11? I'm using desktop computer
> with window xp home edition. I will appreciated if anyone could help me.
>
>
> O. Addison Gethers
>
> e-mail address
> oag1rottie@...
> O.AddisonGethers@...
>
> Facebook
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skype

stephen rogers <gentry252000@...>
 

I downloaded the app for gwmicro for skyype but am having retrieving my password when I do, I try to copy and paste the new password but when I paste it into the password box of this app clint it doesn't work. So, I downloaded the latest version of skype. I can't seem to find an edit box to copy the password to. Perhaps version 6 of skype doesn't work with jaws 14. What version of skype should I download and what website should I go to to get it? also on another topic, what client works best with facebook? someone wrote and said that m.facebook.com was the website, but when I put that in, ie9 says that its not available using somthing like problems loading or problems with ie9, can someone give me the website for a blind friendly client for facebook? I tried going on there to update my profile. Gave up in utter frustration. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Re: Wordweb Dictionary

Robert Logue <bobcat11@...>
 

I'm on my way to figuring out how to stop double reading in word web. I turned off just about everything in advanced verbosity setting and double reading stopped. Now to figure out what actually did it. I was turning things off one at a time but that was getting tedious. Now I'll put them back one at a time and hope I hit the right combination before my fingers give out.

Bob

On 2/16/2013 7:07 AM, Mike W B wrote:
Hi Adrian,

Well, I just got done playing around in Word Web & the settings center for
both XP & Widows7. Double speaking I could not do anything with other than
use the suggestion by Gary, the pass through keystrroke, insert + 3, on the
number row before arrowing up or down to read definitions.

Ignoring, subscript, still allowed, read only edit, to be read no matter
what I had graphics set at. So, as my conclusion, personally speaking of
course, my settings of choice are, graphics labeled, & ignoring, read only
edit, in Speech And Sounds Schemes of the settings center. These are the
settings I'm running in both XP & Widows7. If I can get someone to write a
script for double speaking I'll let y'all know but, don't hold your breath!
LOL LOL

Hope this helps, it helped me, I'm going back to bed
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my ILazyBoy.

----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 7:10 PM
Subject: RE: Wordweb Dictionary


Mike,

Another feat of deep sea drilling. Doris thought, but wasn't sure, that
changing this setting as you've described would solve reading difficulties
in Wordweb. I can't grasp how that would be, but I sense Doris's memory is
to be trusted. I'd be curious if anyone were to test this setting to see
what happens and then post the result to the list.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Wordweb Dictionary

Hi Doris & List Members,

Subscripts, stopping Jaws from reading them:

Try the following to stop Jaws from reading subscripts:

Do the following for the Settings Center in Jaws12 & 13;

1. Open the program you want to have this change made in.

2. press insert+6 on the numbers row.

3. Now down arrow until you see / hear;

Speech and sound schemes,

Right arrow to open.

4. Now down arrow and press the spacebar on,

Modify schemes...

Note, if you press the enter key, you will be taken out of the modify scheme

button.

5. Now tab and enter on, Edit selected scheme button.

6, here you need to, Shift+tab to general.

7. right arrow to Attributes tab & tab one time into the listview.

8. now press the letter "S" until you hear;

Subscript

Now tab and use the down arrow key to select, ignore.

Now tab to okay & press enter.

Again tab to okay & press enter.

Note you now will hear;

Modify Schemes

The current scheme has been modified and has not been saved. Would

you like to save it now?

Yes is highlighted press enter.

Tab to okay & press enter.

If you would like to make this a the default setting,

When you press insert+6 on the numbers row, and you, down arrow to

Speech and sound schemes,

Right arrow to open, now press,

Ctrl+shift+d=default.

Hope this helped.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Doris and Chris
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: Wordweb Dictionary


This is possible, yes. I turned off the speaking of "subscript"
somewhere app specific but do not remember where to give instructions.

Doris

At 09:20 PM 2/13/2013 -0800, you wrote:
Hi,
Just a couple of thoughts/guesses here as I haven't investigated
this yet. First, is there a way to tell the settings center to
suppress announcement of control types? If you're familiar with the
controls already and know that you're in a read-only edit box,
suppressing the reading of control types might do the trick. If
that isn't possible through settings center, than what about setting
user verbosity to advanced? Would that do the trick? As I said,
just a couple of guesses...

Tom

----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Spratt"
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:52 PM
Subject: Wordweb Dictionary


I'm re-posting to make the subject line relevant. Apologies for the
duplication.

Doris,

I took your advice and downloaded Wordweb. It is easy to understand and
navigate. It ought to meet my needs for an off-line dictionary. For me,
and
others, it has only one problem that I've noticed so far, but it's a very
distracting one. Each time I open a definition, JAWS says, "Read only
edit."
Each time I arrow down through the definition, I get the same
verbalization:
"Read only edit. Read only edit."

Have you experienced this? If so, have you solved it?

I'm using Win7 with JAWS 14. I've tested a few options in the quick
settings
dialog, but without success. I virtualized the definition window and
switched off the meddlesome graphics, but other random words entered into
the window and disrupted the flow.

So far, Wordweb is the best option, but I think "Read only edit" is going
to
haunt my dreams and prevent me from taking advantage of it unless you or
someone else tells me how to make it go away.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [
mailto:jfw-bounces@...]
On Behalf Of Doris and Chris
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 7:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: The Sage Dictionary

Don't forget Wordweb that in its basic version is free and accessible out
of
the box. It is a wonderful dictionary and thesaurus for the English
language
that I have been using since before I lost my sight in
1998.

I have not used the Sage dictionary though I think I have a copy of it
flying around here somewhere.

Cheers,

Doris


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Re: Blackboard

Adrian Spratt
 

For the future, what many of us do with applications like Firefox and JAWS
is retain the executable file for the version previous to the one we're
using, just in case the updated version causes problems. You might set up a
folder for such files.

As for how you roll back, I haven't done it in Firefox. You might Google for
an answer while hoping that someone here can post more information.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of kelby carlson
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 2:52 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Blackboard

I haven't. How can I find a previous version?



On 2/16/13, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@...> wrote:
A number of people reported having problems with Firefox 18 on this list
that were resolved when they rolled back to 17. Have you tried doing that?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of kelby
carlson
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 2:19 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Blackboard

I just got my upgrade to JAWS 14 a couple of days ago. My college uses
a system called Blackboard for its online course interface. JAWS 12
had no problem with this, but JAWS 14 now only shows the top of the
page (the course list and other important parts are in a separate
frame.) It seems to work in Firefox, but there are a number of things
that require Flash, and FIrefox crashes every time it loads a Flash
page with JAWS. Does anyone know if/how the Blackboard and/or the
Flash problem can be solved? Thanks!

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Re: Blackboard

kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...>
 

I haven't. How can I find a previous version?

On 2/16/13, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@...> wrote:
A number of people reported having problems with Firefox 18 on this list
that were resolved when they rolled back to 17. Have you tried doing that?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of kelby carlson
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 2:19 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Blackboard

I just got my upgrade to JAWS 14 a couple of days ago. My college uses
a system called Blackboard for its online course interface. JAWS 12
had no problem with this, but JAWS 14 now only shows the top of the
page (the course list and other important parts are in a separate
frame.) It seems to work in Firefox, but there are a number of things
that require Flash, and FIrefox crashes every time it loads a Flash
page with JAWS. Does anyone know if/how the Blackboard and/or the
Flash problem can be solved? Thanks!

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Re: Blackboard

Adrian Spratt
 

A number of people reported having problems with Firefox 18 on this list
that were resolved when they rolled back to 17. Have you tried doing that?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of kelby carlson
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 2:19 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: Blackboard

I just got my upgrade to JAWS 14 a couple of days ago. My college uses
a system called Blackboard for its online course interface. JAWS 12
had no problem with this, but JAWS 14 now only shows the top of the
page (the course list and other important parts are in a separate
frame.) It seems to work in Firefox, but there are a number of things
that require Flash, and FIrefox crashes every time it loads a Flash
page with JAWS. Does anyone know if/how the Blackboard and/or the
Flash problem can be solved? Thanks!

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Re: IE/Firefox and Crashes

kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...>
 

Related to this, I have been able to install flash for Firefox. I
should have the latest version, but whenever I try to lload a flash
video Firefox crashes. Is there a reason for/way to fix this?

On 2/16/13, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@...> wrote:
Douglas,

The link below should take you to a webpage that enables you to download a
slew of free programs without risk of also installing unwanted applications
like Google Chrome. Search for "flash." The first item is the flash player
for all browsers except IE and the second is for IE only. Each item has a
checkbox above it. In your case, press spacebar on the first of these
checkboxes.

Then press b to take you to the install all selected options button. After
that, follow the download and run prompts.

Note that once you download this small Ninet application, you needn't do so
again. Save it where you'll remember and run it from time to time to catch
updates.

Here's the link:

http://ninite.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Douglas
Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: IE/Firefox and Crashes

How do I get the non-IE version of Flash Player for those streaming audio
sites that don't work in Firefox but might work in IE, so IE won't crash
and

prompt me with a "send/don't send" error dialog? Should I uninstall the IE

version of Flash Player before downloading the non-IE version? I might
lose

some of my streaming stations altogether: either I'll hear no sound when I
go to the particular sites, or I'll be prompted to install missing plugins
and not know where to locate them.
Someone sent a bulletin explaining how to change the filter settings in
"about:config" using Firefox, so FF will work better in sites that use
Flash

content, but this procedure doesn't apply to IE. Hope I'm clear this time.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-901-7306
cell 913-244-0612
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: IE/Firefox and Crashes


Doug,

I for one didn't reply because I do not stream radio, and didn't
understand
the overall nature of your question. You seem to be asking about both why

IE
is crashing, as well as finding flash content for Firefox? And now you
are
asking about a config file.

Your Firefox seems pretty ancient, by the way -- it is up to version 18
now.

So, I'll bite...Can you restate your original question?

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 08:52
Subject: Re: IE/Firefox and Crashes


I sent this a couple months ago but got no reply; thanks for your time.
The
"about:config" file works in Firefox but not IE.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
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Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-901-7306
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: IE/Firefox and Crashes


Some streaming radio links don't work/play using Firefox, and when I
paste
the URL into IE I get a crash and error report. Once I go to adobe.com
or
oldapps.com, how do I get the non-IE version of Flash? Please direct me
to which links to proceed in which order. (I'm using Firefox 3.6.19 and
IE 8.00.6001.19165) Thanks, and a Merry Christmas to all.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-901-7306
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill White" <billwhite92701@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: Firefox and Crashes


I use firefox 13, and I found that to make flash work with websites, it
is
necessary to use the non-Internet Explorer versions of flash player
available through adobe.com or from oldapps.com

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: Firefox and Crashes


Over a year ago I mentioned that when I visit sites containg flash
content, using IE, I get a crash and error report dialog. My question
never got answered; Dave just sent a blank reply, and when I asked
what
he said, there was no further discussion.
How do I configure IE so it won't crash when I go to sites using
Flash?
Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-901-7306
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 5:57 AM
Subject: Firefox and Crashes


By the way, if you're finding that Firefox crashes on you on certain
sites containing flash, check out this bulletin.
http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_support/BulletinView.asp?QC=1410

Chris



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Blackboard

kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...>
 

I just got my upgrade to JAWS 14 a couple of days ago. My college uses
a system called Blackboard for its online course interface. JAWS 12
had no problem with this, but JAWS 14 now only shows the top of the
page (the course list and other important parts are in a separate
frame.) It seems to work in Firefox, but there are a number of things
that require Flash, and FIrefox crashes every time it loads a Flash
page with JAWS. Does anyone know if/how the Blackboard and/or the
Flash problem can be solved? Thanks!


Re: this is off topic but support related

joe stinton
 

Hi


try iphonevip@yahoogroups

if you need any thing else pleas ask cheers Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Dana Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 2:27 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: this is off topic but support related

Does anyone know if there is an iphone list for those of us who aer blind trying to learnhow to use it.
Thanks
dana


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Re: face book

Dave...
 

Nothing -- just my original point.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "George B" <gbmagoo@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:07
Subject: RE: face book


And dave and others and what the hell did this have to do with favebook????
Hay lets fill up everyone's in box...lol

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:04
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: face book

Steve,

Since you continue...

Simply put, I do not like postings that chastise others. It seems
sanctimonious.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Boodram" <steveboodram071@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 09:00
Subject: Re: face book


David. I already made my point on the list. There is no need to further
elaborate. Call it what you wish it is my view and I don't suffer any
inferiority complex to adopt anyone else's.

This dialogue is not JAWS related so shall we end it here before we
upset
James and the other moderators?

Lets just say that we subscribe to different value systems and leave it
there.

I just thought Gary's comments appeared to be a bit insensitive, and
that is
my opinion that may be wrong in the view of you and probably others but
as I
said I am an independent thinker and it is certain we differ on modes
of
conduct and email etiquette and conventional standards and protocol
regarding our responses on public mailing lists.

If your modus operandi is that embarrassing persons who ask silly
questions
would lure them to ask further questions for help that is your
business but
since it was posted on a public forum I am so inclined to offer my
opinion
even though it may be of no value to you. further more, if you believe
that
because Gary is a regular contributor to the list gives him and innate
right
to make a fool of another list member that is your belief not mind.

I certainly don't have the time to engage you in an on or off list
debate
on moral and ethics since I have better things to do so reply if you so
care. If it deserves a response I will so oblige.

Thanks.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar in His Studio" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: face book


Steve,

What point? And should we not post your off-list points to me, since
you
wish to continue the diatribe?

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Boodram" <steveboodram071@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: face book


That was the point I forgot to mention in my off list message to
David. At
least I feel comforted to know that I am not the only one who
questions
David's logic and challenge his mode of thinking.

What if Kevin was confusing Facebook with the openbook app also
manufactured
by FS since it was suggested that he may not be using JAWS correctly
hence
the misinformation or mispronunciation as it were?

My contention and only contention was the manner and content of
Gary's
response which firstly also wasn't JAWS related and secondly could
serve
as
a deterrent to further questions and inquiries on Kevin's path. Hope
I am
not wrong in my assumption but I think the moderator/moderators of
this
list
would not want anyone to feel belittled or unwelcome or believe that
their
questions are silly and does not deserve a courteous reply.

That's all I was implying.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill White" <billwhite92701@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: face book


Hi, David. You may be forgetting that if FaceBook is mentioned on
the
JAWS
list, and a reader doesn't know what FaceBook is, how would they
know it
isn't JAWS related?

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: face book


Steve,

Not trying to defend Gary, but come on. If I sent a message to this
list
and
said "What is Windows" I would be violating the whole purpose of
the
list,
not to mention ignoring all the resources out there that can answer
that
question.

This is a JAWS list, and asking "What is Facebook" is not only
trivializing
the purpose of the list, but it also does not come close to being a
JAWS-related question.

Kevin can Google that question or put it into Wikipedia and get the
answer.

I disagree with your contentions. The question is actually
insulting, to
be
absolutely candid.

Gary is a staunch contributor to this list and does not need your
validation
to continue contributing -- nor mine.

Anyone who does not know what Facebook is, apparently does not
listen to
the
radio, TV, read papers, or talk to anyone outside their own 4
inside
walls.
What on earth do they need with a computer?

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a
Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Boodram" <steveboodram071@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 19:05
Subject: Re: face book


Hello Gary, not trying in any way to cushion Kevin's query but a
lot of
people have just heard of facebook and do not know what it really
is as
they
are contented with basic computing. Facebook wasn't here in the
late
Nineties so it has to be a second or even third generation method
of
communicating especially to senior citizens.

In fact it was started by:
Mark Zuckerberg
who launched the site as a Harvard sophomore on February 4, 2004
and the
planet or universe whichever you choose to call it is much more
than
nine
years old.

Please try to be a little more civil in your response if your
nature do
not
permit you to be courteous to people.

All the man ask was what is Facebook and certainly did not deserve
your
facetious reply.

I am probably not from this planet too since I don't understand
what
benefit
your response brings to the thread. Care to enlighten me since I
may not
have mastered the spoken language as perfect as you do?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: face book


Kevin,
Which part of the galaxy are you from, and how long have you been
on
earth? By the way, you have learned our language very well!

Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 5:08 PM
Subject: face book


what in the world is face book? or did I mishear jaws?
email is golden!
Kevin
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Re: face book

Dave...
 

Gary,

Yes we seem to have occasional periods where lack of humor abounds. Good
point. And I observe that you were not the only one to bring that element of
amazement in response to the query.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 09:00
Subject: Re: face book


In my defense, when I first read Kevin's message, I found it difficult to
believe that he had never heard of Face Book. My 88-year-old aunt, who has
never touched a computer in her life and doesn't have one in the house, has
heard of Face Book and thinks it's a big waste of time. She does watch TV
and listen to the radio though; so she's not completely technologically
impaired. I suspect that's where she learned about Face Book; it seems to
be mentioned in the media from time to time. I guess that's why I had a
hard time taking Kevin's question seriously and answered in what I intended
to be a humorous way. I hope he has a good sense of humor and wasn't
offended by my message. I'm not sure which is worse, being technologically
impaired or humor impaired as some people seem to be.

Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Boodram" <steveboodram071@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: face book


That was the point I forgot to mention in my off list message to David. At
least I feel comforted to know that I am not the only one who questions
David's logic and challenge his mode of thinking.

What if Kevin was confusing Facebook with the openbook app also
manufactured by FS since it was suggested that he may not be using JAWS
correctly hence the misinformation or mispronunciation as it were?

My contention and only contention was the manner and content of Gary's
response which firstly also wasn't JAWS related and secondly could serve
as a deterrent to further questions and inquiries on Kevin's path. Hope I
am not wrong in my assumption but I think the moderator/moderators of this
list would not want anyone to feel belittled or unwelcome or believe that
their questions are silly and does not deserve a courteous reply.

That's all I was implying.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill White" <billwhite92701@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: face book


Hi, David. You may be forgetting that if FaceBook is mentioned on the
JAWS list, and a reader doesn't know what FaceBook is, how would they
know it isn't JAWS related?

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: face book


Steve,

Not trying to defend Gary, but come on. If I sent a message to this list
and
said "What is Windows" I would be violating the whole purpose of the
list,
not to mention ignoring all the resources out there that can answer that
question.

This is a JAWS list, and asking "What is Facebook" is not only
trivializing
the purpose of the list, but it also does not come close to being a
JAWS-related question.

Kevin can Google that question or put it into Wikipedia and get the
answer.

I disagree with your contentions. The question is actually insulting, to
be
absolutely candid.

Gary is a staunch contributor to this list and does not need your
validation
to continue contributing -- nor mine.

Anyone who does not know what Facebook is, apparently does not listen to
the
radio, TV, read papers, or talk to anyone outside their own 4 inside
walls.
What on earth do they need with a computer?

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Boodram" <steveboodram071@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 19:05
Subject: Re: face book


Hello Gary, not trying in any way to cushion Kevin's query but a lot of
people have just heard of facebook and do not know what it really is as
they
are contented with basic computing. Facebook wasn't here in the late
Nineties so it has to be a second or even third generation method of
communicating especially to senior citizens.

In fact it was started by:
Mark Zuckerberg
who launched the site as a Harvard sophomore on February 4, 2004 and the
planet or universe whichever you choose to call it is much more than
nine
years old.

Please try to be a little more civil in your response if your nature do
not
permit you to be courteous to people.

All the man ask was what is Facebook and certainly did not deserve your
facetious reply.

I am probably not from this planet too since I don't understand what
benefit
your response brings to the thread. Care to enlighten me since I may not
have mastered the spoken language as perfect as you do?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: face book


Kevin,
Which part of the galaxy are you from, and how long have you been on
earth? By the way, you have learned our language very well!

Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 5:08 PM
Subject: face book


what in the world is face book? or did I mishear jaws?
email is golden!
Kevin
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Re: face book

George B
 

And dave and others and what the hell did this have to do with favebook????
Hay lets fill up everyone's in box...lol

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:04
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: face book

Steve,

Since you continue...

Simply put, I do not like postings that chastise others. It seems
sanctimonious.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Boodram" <steveboodram071@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 09:00
Subject: Re: face book


David. I already made my point on the list. There is no need to further
elaborate. Call it what you wish it is my view and I don't suffer any
inferiority complex to adopt anyone else's.

This dialogue is not JAWS related so shall we end it here before we
upset
James and the other moderators?

Lets just say that we subscribe to different value systems and leave it
there.

I just thought Gary's comments appeared to be a bit insensitive, and
that is
my opinion that may be wrong in the view of you and probably others but
as I
said I am an independent thinker and it is certain we differ on modes
of
conduct and email etiquette and conventional standards and protocol
regarding our responses on public mailing lists.

If your modus operandi is that embarrassing persons who ask silly
questions
would lure them to ask further questions for help that is your
business but
since it was posted on a public forum I am so inclined to offer my
opinion
even though it may be of no value to you. further more, if you believe
that
because Gary is a regular contributor to the list gives him and innate
right
to make a fool of another list member that is your belief not mind.

I certainly don't have the time to engage you in an on or off list
debate
on moral and ethics since I have better things to do so reply if you so
care. If it deserves a response I will so oblige.

Thanks.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar in His Studio" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: face book


Steve,

What point? And should we not post your off-list points to me, since
you
wish to continue the diatribe?

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Boodram" <steveboodram071@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: face book


That was the point I forgot to mention in my off list message to
David. At
least I feel comforted to know that I am not the only one who
questions
David's logic and challenge his mode of thinking.

What if Kevin was confusing Facebook with the openbook app also
manufactured
by FS since it was suggested that he may not be using JAWS correctly
hence
the misinformation or mispronunciation as it were?

My contention and only contention was the manner and content of
Gary's
response which firstly also wasn't JAWS related and secondly could
serve
as
a deterrent to further questions and inquiries on Kevin's path. Hope
I am
not wrong in my assumption but I think the moderator/moderators of
this
list
would not want anyone to feel belittled or unwelcome or believe that
their
questions are silly and does not deserve a courteous reply.

That's all I was implying.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill White" <billwhite92701@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: face book


Hi, David. You may be forgetting that if FaceBook is mentioned on
the
JAWS
list, and a reader doesn't know what FaceBook is, how would they
know it
isn't JAWS related?

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: face book


Steve,

Not trying to defend Gary, but come on. If I sent a message to this
list
and
said "What is Windows" I would be violating the whole purpose of
the
list,
not to mention ignoring all the resources out there that can answer
that
question.

This is a JAWS list, and asking "What is Facebook" is not only
trivializing
the purpose of the list, but it also does not come close to being a
JAWS-related question.

Kevin can Google that question or put it into Wikipedia and get the
answer.

I disagree with your contentions. The question is actually
insulting, to
be
absolutely candid.

Gary is a staunch contributor to this list and does not need your
validation
to continue contributing -- nor mine.

Anyone who does not know what Facebook is, apparently does not
listen to
the
radio, TV, read papers, or talk to anyone outside their own 4
inside
walls.
What on earth do they need with a computer?

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a
Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Boodram" <steveboodram071@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 19:05
Subject: Re: face book


Hello Gary, not trying in any way to cushion Kevin's query but a
lot of
people have just heard of facebook and do not know what it really
is as
they
are contented with basic computing. Facebook wasn't here in the
late
Nineties so it has to be a second or even third generation method
of
communicating especially to senior citizens.

In fact it was started by:
Mark Zuckerberg
who launched the site as a Harvard sophomore on February 4, 2004
and the
planet or universe whichever you choose to call it is much more
than
nine
years old.

Please try to be a little more civil in your response if your
nature do
not
permit you to be courteous to people.

All the man ask was what is Facebook and certainly did not deserve
your
facetious reply.

I am probably not from this planet too since I don't understand
what
benefit
your response brings to the thread. Care to enlighten me since I
may not
have mastered the spoken language as perfect as you do?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: face book


Kevin,
Which part of the galaxy are you from, and how long have you been
on
earth? By the way, you have learned our language very well!

Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 5:08 PM
Subject: face book


what in the world is face book? or did I mishear jaws?
email is golden!
Kevin
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Re: outlook 2007

Dave...
 

Kimsan,

Alt+n just brings focus to the Insert Tab in the ribbon.

Alt+a beeps.

These are both done from an open message that I'm composing.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 09:03
Subject: RE: outlook 2007


I will not be at an outlook 07 machine until Tuesday but I use to press two
keys and a list of signitures will appear and I can press enter on the one I
want, so when you do alt n or alt a? What happens Dave? This is after the
email form is open, of course.


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:54 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: outlook 2007

Kimsan,

I've never changed my signature in Outlook 2007, so of course was curious.
Alt, n, g. All separate taps, since you're working with the ribbon.

This opens the dialog where you can select new, reply, or create .


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 08:46
Subject: outlook 2007


Ok, I do not remember, so someone with outlook 2007 please chime in and hope
that you have more than one signature.

When an email messaged is opened with all of the necessary fields filled in,
and if if wanting to bring up the list of signitures, you can do which
keystroke? Alt a or alt n?

I know here in 2010, its alt m but I can't remember for 07. Why can't they
just keep it the same as newer versions come out lol.

I mean, we went from alt n, alt (what ever it is for 07) to alt m?

Once more this is to manually add a signature that you have already created
in 07 and I cannot remember if the keystroke alt A or is it alt n in outlook
2007.

I turn 32 next Sunday, this old age is killing me!





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Re: face book

Dave...
 

Steve,

Since you continue...

Simply put, I do not like postings that chastise others. It seems
sanctimonious.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Boodram" <steveboodram071@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 09:00
Subject: Re: face book


David. I already made my point on the list. There is no need to further
elaborate. Call it what you wish it is my view and I don't suffer any
inferiority complex to adopt anyone else's.

This dialogue is not JAWS related so shall we end it here before we upset
James and the other moderators?

Lets just say that we subscribe to different value systems and leave it
there.

I just thought Gary's comments appeared to be a bit insensitive, and that is
my opinion that may be wrong in the view of you and probably others but as I
said I am an independent thinker and it is certain we differ on modes of
conduct and email etiquette and conventional standards and protocol
regarding our responses on public mailing lists.

If your modus operandi is that embarrassing persons who ask silly questions
would lure them to ask further questions for help that is your business but
since it was posted on a public forum I am so inclined to offer my opinion
even though it may be of no value to you. further more, if you believe that
because Gary is a regular contributor to the list gives him and innate right
to make a fool of another list member that is your belief not mind.

I certainly don't have the time to engage you in an on or off list debate
on moral and ethics since I have better things to do so reply if you so
care. If it deserves a response I will so oblige.

Thanks.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar in His Studio" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: face book


Steve,

What point? And should we not post your off-list points to me, since you
wish to continue the diatribe?

Dave Carlson
Sent from my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Boodram" <steveboodram071@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: face book


That was the point I forgot to mention in my off list message to David. At
least I feel comforted to know that I am not the only one who questions
David's logic and challenge his mode of thinking.

What if Kevin was confusing Facebook with the openbook app also
manufactured
by FS since it was suggested that he may not be using JAWS correctly hence
the misinformation or mispronunciation as it were?

My contention and only contention was the manner and content of Gary's
response which firstly also wasn't JAWS related and secondly could serve
as
a deterrent to further questions and inquiries on Kevin's path. Hope I am
not wrong in my assumption but I think the moderator/moderators of this
list
would not want anyone to feel belittled or unwelcome or believe that their
questions are silly and does not deserve a courteous reply.

That's all I was implying.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill White" <billwhite92701@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: face book


Hi, David. You may be forgetting that if FaceBook is mentioned on the
JAWS
list, and a reader doesn't know what FaceBook is, how would they know it
isn't JAWS related?

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: face book


Steve,

Not trying to defend Gary, but come on. If I sent a message to this list
and
said "What is Windows" I would be violating the whole purpose of the
list,
not to mention ignoring all the resources out there that can answer that
question.

This is a JAWS list, and asking "What is Facebook" is not only
trivializing
the purpose of the list, but it also does not come close to being a
JAWS-related question.

Kevin can Google that question or put it into Wikipedia and get the
answer.

I disagree with your contentions. The question is actually insulting, to
be
absolutely candid.

Gary is a staunch contributor to this list and does not need your
validation
to continue contributing -- nor mine.

Anyone who does not know what Facebook is, apparently does not listen to
the
radio, TV, read papers, or talk to anyone outside their own 4 inside
walls.
What on earth do they need with a computer?

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Boodram" <steveboodram071@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 19:05
Subject: Re: face book


Hello Gary, not trying in any way to cushion Kevin's query but a lot of
people have just heard of facebook and do not know what it really is as
they
are contented with basic computing. Facebook wasn't here in the late
Nineties so it has to be a second or even third generation method of
communicating especially to senior citizens.

In fact it was started by:
Mark Zuckerberg
who launched the site as a Harvard sophomore on February 4, 2004 and the
planet or universe whichever you choose to call it is much more than
nine
years old.

Please try to be a little more civil in your response if your nature do
not
permit you to be courteous to people.

All the man ask was what is Facebook and certainly did not deserve your
facetious reply.

I am probably not from this planet too since I don't understand what
benefit
your response brings to the thread. Care to enlighten me since I may not
have mastered the spoken language as perfect as you do?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: face book


Kevin,
Which part of the galaxy are you from, and how long have you been on
earth? By the way, you have learned our language very well!

Gary King
w4wkz@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 5:08 PM
Subject: face book


what in the world is face book? or did I mishear jaws?
email is golden!
Kevin
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Re: IE/Firefox and Crashes

Adrian Spratt
 

Douglas,

The link below should take you to a webpage that enables you to download a
slew of free programs without risk of also installing unwanted applications
like Google Chrome. Search for "flash." The first item is the flash player
for all browsers except IE and the second is for IE only. Each item has a
checkbox above it. In your case, press spacebar on the first of these
checkboxes.

Then press b to take you to the install all selected options button. After
that, follow the download and run prompts.

Note that once you download this small Ninet application, you needn't do so
again. Save it where you'll remember and run it from time to time to catch
updates.

Here's the link:

http://ninite.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Douglas
Richard Dexheimer
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:15 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: IE/Firefox and Crashes

How do I get the non-IE version of Flash Player for those streaming audio
sites that don't work in Firefox but might work in IE, so IE won't crash and

prompt me with a "send/don't send" error dialog? Should I uninstall the IE
version of Flash Player before downloading the non-IE version? I might lose

some of my streaming stations altogether: either I'll hear no sound when I
go to the particular sites, or I'll be prompted to install missing plugins
and not know where to locate them.
Someone sent a bulletin explaining how to change the filter settings in
"about:config" using Firefox, so FF will work better in sites that use Flash

content, but this procedure doesn't apply to IE. Hope I'm clear this time.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-901-7306
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: IE/Firefox and Crashes


Doug,

I for one didn't reply because I do not stream radio, and didn't
understand
the overall nature of your question. You seem to be asking about both why
IE
is crashing, as well as finding flash content for Firefox? And now you
are
asking about a config file.

Your Firefox seems pretty ancient, by the way -- it is up to version 18
now.

So, I'll bite...Can you restate your original question?

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 08:52
Subject: Re: IE/Firefox and Crashes


I sent this a couple months ago but got no reply; thanks for your time.
The
"about:config" file works in Firefox but not IE.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-901-7306
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: IE/Firefox and Crashes


Some streaming radio links don't work/play using Firefox, and when I
paste
the URL into IE I get a crash and error report. Once I go to adobe.com
or
oldapps.com, how do I get the non-IE version of Flash? Please direct me
to which links to proceed in which order. (I'm using Firefox 3.6.19 and
IE 8.00.6001.19165) Thanks, and a Merry Christmas to all.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-901-7306
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill White" <billwhite92701@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: Firefox and Crashes


I use firefox 13, and I found that to make flash work with websites, it
is
necessary to use the non-Internet Explorer versions of flash player
available through adobe.com or from oldapps.com

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas Richard Dexheimer" <drichardd@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: Firefox and Crashes


Over a year ago I mentioned that when I visit sites containg flash
content, using IE, I get a crash and error report dialog. My question
never got answered; Dave just sent a blank reply, and when I asked what
he said, there was no further discussion.
How do I configure IE so it won't crash when I go to sites using Flash?
Thanks.

Douglas Richard Dexheimer
Chief of Braille Productions
Born-Again Productions
The Friedman Place, Apt.308
5527 N. Maplewood Ave.
Chicago, IL 60625
773-901-7306
cell 913-244-0612
drichardd@...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 5:57 AM
Subject: Firefox and Crashes


By the way, if you're finding that Firefox crashes on you on certain
sites containing flash, check out this bulletin.
http://www.freedomscientific.com/fs_support/BulletinView.asp?QC=1410

Chris



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