Re: Flash Movies
inthane <inthaneelf@...>
there is usually hidden in the middle to beginning of the last third of that display a button that will read something like play/pause and something else, that one usually works for me
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From: "Ron Edwards" <facup1927@virginmedia.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support mailing list'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:43 AM Subject: Flash Movies Hi all.
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spotify with jaws
Paul Faucheux
hey list has any one tryed to use the music service spotify with jaws.
i am finding parts of the program verry inaccessible. the latest version appears to be some what inaccessible. this was a program for downloading music legally. are there any free scripts for this software. this was a program suggested to me by my brother. if yall have any advice to give me please call me or write me at pf112781@gmail.com or 225-209-5635
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Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS
Terra Syslo <tlsyslo@...>
Hi, I have JFW 11 installed on this machine also. I didn't uninstall it,
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just JFW 12, and tried to go back to the previous version of JFW 12 before the latest update, but that's when I ran into the problem of it not reading anything in internet explorer. I had no idea it would be so complicated to just go back to a previous version. Had I known the latest version didn't work correctly with flash content, I never would have updated in the first place.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:29 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS Terra, Do you still have JAWS 11? If so, completely remove JAWS 12, and then do an install of JAWS 11. After a reboot, do a clean install of the version of JAWS 12 that you want to use. I had to do this total exorcism to get back to JAWS 12.0.525 after FS screwed up Excel 2007. Yes, I know all you listers are sick and tired of hearing me complain about Excel 2007. However I use it in my job 4 out of 8 hours a day, and since the "J" in JAWS is supposed to mean "Job" I find it rather important to emphasize that point to FS via this forum. Think "Job" not "Junk". Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfortto my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll try to remedy that situation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terra Syslo" <tlsyslo@yahoo.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 13:18 Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS The latest version isn't working properly with flash, but when I installed the previous version nothing would read with internet explorer, so I wanted to see if by updating to the latest version it was fixed, and it did fix the problem with internet explorer, but not the problems I'm having with flash content. Doing a clean install of either version leads to the problem of nothing being read in internet explorer. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:49 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS Terra, Now you've confused me. If you wanted to be using version 12.0.522, then why did you check for updates? That would download 12.0.1669 and you're back where you started. Turn off the automatic update feature in the JAWS Options/Basics dialog and stay with the version you install (in your case 12.0.522). And like David earlier I don't understand the role that Flash plays in your decision to go back to 12.0.522. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfortto my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll try to remedy that situation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terra Syslo" <tlsyslo@yahoo.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:15 Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I uninstalled everything and tried an install of the latest version of JFW 12, and it did the same thing as the previous version of 12 with regards to not reading in internet explorer. I then uninstalled it, re-installed jfw 12.0.522 and when I checked for updates it installed the latest version again, and now it reads in internet explorer, but I'm still having the problem with flash content. I really want to be using the previous version, but I have no idea why it is not reading in internet explorer. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 11:01 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS Terra, Some others on this list have said that the only way to have JAWS higher than 12.0.525 working correctly with Excel is to remove shared and user settings when installing. I personally find that repugnant. When I re-installed 12.0.525 I re-copied my previous user settings after installing, so that I did not lose any of my customized files. I say keep both during install and then overwrite with a backup copy of your previous set of files from your user settings. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfortto my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll try to remedy that situation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terra Syslo" <tlsyslo@yahoo.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 18:03 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS Hi, I have removed JFW 12, and installed it again. Do I need to remove my settings when it asks during the uninstall process? I said to leave them. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Nokia N95 Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:38 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS You need to completely remove JAWS 12 and install clean. See my message from several months back. Dave Carlson Produced on a Nokia N95 using Nuance TALKS screen-reading software. -original message- Subject: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS From: "Terra Syslo" <tlsyslo@yahoo.com> Date: 08-10-2011 17:10 I have a strange problem with JFW. I reverted back to version 12.0.522 because of my annoying problem with flash with the latest version, but now when I go to internet explorer and try to do anything JFW won't read anything. I can't see links, it won't read text, nothing. I can do an insert f7 to get to the links list box, but I can't see anything on the page. Tabbing doesn't work either. 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Re: [Bulk] jaws not reading next msg after ctrl-d delete
Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
With that kind of setup, I really want to talk to you off list, if you
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don't mind.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:01 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: [Bulk] jaws not reading next msg after ctrl-d delete I'm running the latest version of JAWS, Office 2007 and Windows XP Professional on my computer at work. It seems to work fine since I did the clean reinstall. It's slow at times, but my computer is also 9 years old. I may be getting a new one soon with the same configuration listed above. I'll let people know how it is. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 12:08 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: [Bulk] jaws not reading next msg after ctrl-d delete These last two releases just don't play well with 2007. I'd love to hear from anybody off list who runs this version of Office on 11 or higher with XP. I believe the problems you guys are talking about are with later OS's, but an FS developer told me the company had little remaining interest in XP performance. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Graham Smith Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 11:22 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] jaws not reading next msg after ctrl-d delete It would be nice to know if there is only one person with excel problems, seem strange. -----Original Message----- From: Londa Peterson Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:58 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: [Bulk] jaws not reading next msg after ctrl-d delete That problem with excel 2007 can be fixed. I did it by removing JAWS 12 completely. This includes shared files and user settings. Then I Installed the latest version. My Excel works fine now. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:27 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] jaws not reading next msg after ctrl-d delete Michael, You may benefit by updating to 12.0.1669. However go to http://www.freedomscientific.com and check the "What's new" and "Enhancements and Fixes" files to make sure that WLM has been covered in releases after 12.0.525. I vaguely recall that there have been some attempts to make things better for WLM. However it's at the expense of screwing up Excel 2007, so be wary before you update. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for mycomfort to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll try to remedy that situation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael mcglashon" <michael.mcglashon@comcast.net> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 9:04 Subject: Re: [Bulk] jaws not reading next msg after ctrl-d delete the complete jaws number is 12.0.525 -----Original Message----- From: Farfar on Nokia N95 Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 7:10 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: [Bulk] jaws not reading next msg after ctrl-d delete What is the complete version number of JAWS? i.e. 12.0.1669. Dave Carlson Produced on a Nokia N95 using Nuance TALKS screen-reading software. -original message- Subject: [Bulk] jaws not reading next msg after ctrl-d delete From: "michael mcglashon" <michael.mcglashon@comcast.net> Date: 08-08-2011 16:18 hi guys: the subject says it all, when I am in windows-live-mail in windows 7 and using jaws 12, I used to hear the reading of the next msg automatically when I hit ctrl-d to delete one. now, all of a sudden in the last couple of days, when I hit ctrl-d to delete a msg, I then have to hit insert-escape to refresh the screen before it will read the next msg? any one else seen this? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS
Dave...
Terra,
Do you still have JAWS 11? If so, completely remove JAWS 12, and then do an install of JAWS 11. After a reboot, do a clean install of the version of JAWS 12 that you want to use. I had to do this total exorcism to get back to JAWS 12.0.525 after FS screwed up Excel 2007. Yes, I know all you listers are sick and tired of hearing me complain about Excel 2007. However I use it in my job 4 out of 8 hours a day, and since the "J" in JAWS is supposed to mean "Job" I find it rather important to emphasize that point to FS via this forum. Think "Job" not "Junk". Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfortto my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll try to remedy that situation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terra Syslo" <tlsyslo@yahoo.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 13:18 Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS The latest version isn't working properly with flash, but when I installed the previous version nothing would read with internet explorer, so I wanted to see if by updating to the latest version it was fixed, and it did fix the problem with internet explorer, but not the problems I'm having with flash content. Doing a clean install of either version leads to the problem of nothing being read in internet explorer. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:49 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS Terra, Now you've confused me. If you wanted to be using version 12.0.522, then why did you check for updates? That would download 12.0.1669 and you're back where you started. Turn off the automatic update feature in the JAWS Options/Basics dialog and stay with the version you install (in your case 12.0.522). And like David earlier I don't understand the role that Flash plays in your decision to go back to 12.0.522. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfortto my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll try to remedy that situation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terra Syslo" <tlsyslo@yahoo.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:15 Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I uninstalled everything and tried an install of the latest version of JFW 12, and it did the same thing as the previous version of 12 with regards to not reading in internet explorer. I then uninstalled it, re-installed jfw 12.0.522 and when I checked for updates it installed the latest version again, and now it reads in internet explorer, but I'm still having the problem with flash content. I really want to be using the previous version, but I have no idea why it is not reading in internet explorer. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 11:01 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS Terra, Some others on this list have said that the only way to have JAWS higher than 12.0.525 working correctly with Excel is to remove shared and user settings when installing. I personally find that repugnant. When I re-installed 12.0.525 I re-copied my previous user settings after installing, so that I did not lose any of my customized files. I say keep both during install and then overwrite with a backup copy of your previous set of files from your user settings. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfortto my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll try to remedy that situation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terra Syslo" <tlsyslo@yahoo.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 18:03 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS Hi, I have removed JFW 12, and installed it again. Do I need to remove my settings when it asks during the uninstall process? I said to leave them. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Nokia N95 Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:38 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS You need to completely remove JAWS 12 and install clean. See my message from several months back. Dave Carlson Produced on a Nokia N95 using Nuance TALKS screen-reading software. -original message- Subject: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS From: "Terra Syslo" <tlsyslo@yahoo.com> Date: 08-10-2011 17:10 I have a strange problem with JFW. I reverted back to version 12.0.522 because of my annoying problem with flash with the latest version, but now when I go to internet explorer and try to do anything JFW won't read anything. I can't see links, it won't read text, nothing. I can do an insert f7 to get to the links list box, but I can't see anything on the page. Tabbing doesn't work either. Does anyone have any suggestions? I've made sure it was in full screen and did a jaws refresh. JFW 11 doesn't seem to have this problem. Thanks for any help. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS
Terra Syslo <tlsyslo@...>
The latest version isn't working properly with flash, but when I installed
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the previous version nothing would read with internet explorer, so I wanted to see if by updating to the latest version it was fixed, and it did fix the problem with internet explorer, but not the problems I'm having with flash content. Doing a clean install of either version leads to the problem of nothing being read in internet explorer.
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:49 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS Terra, Now you've confused me. If you wanted to be using version 12.0.522, then why did you check for updates? That would download 12.0.1669 and you're back where you started. Turn off the automatic update feature in the JAWS Options/Basics dialog and stay with the version you install (in your case 12.0.522). And like David earlier I don't understand the role that Flash plays in your decision to go back to 12.0.522. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfortto my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll try to remedy that situation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terra Syslo" <tlsyslo@yahoo.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:15 Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I uninstalled everything and tried an install of the latest version of JFW 12, and it did the same thing as the previous version of 12 with regards to not reading in internet explorer. I then uninstalled it, re-installed jfw 12.0.522 and when I checked for updates it installed the latest version again, and now it reads in internet explorer, but I'm still having the problem with flash content. I really want to be using the previous version, but I have no idea why it is not reading in internet explorer. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 11:01 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS Terra, Some others on this list have said that the only way to have JAWS higher than 12.0.525 working correctly with Excel is to remove shared and user settings when installing. I personally find that repugnant. When I re-installed 12.0.525 I re-copied my previous user settings after installing, so that I did not lose any of my customized files. I say keep both during install and then overwrite with a backup copy of your previous set of files from your user settings. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfortto my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll try to remedy that situation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terra Syslo" <tlsyslo@yahoo.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 18:03 Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS Hi, I have removed JFW 12, and installed it again. Do I need to remove my settings when it asks during the uninstall process? I said to leave them. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar on Nokia N95 Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:38 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS You need to completely remove JAWS 12 and install clean. See my message from several months back. Dave Carlson Produced on a Nokia N95 using Nuance TALKS screen-reading software. -original message- Subject: [Bulk] yet another problem with JAWS From: "Terra Syslo" <tlsyslo@yahoo.com> Date: 08-10-2011 17:10 I have a strange problem with JFW. I reverted back to version 12.0.522 because of my annoying problem with flash with the latest version, but now when I go to internet explorer and try to do anything JFW won't read anything. I can't see links, it won't read text, nothing. I can do an insert f7 to get to the links list box, but I can't see anything on the page. Tabbing doesn't work either. Does anyone have any suggestions? I've made sure it was in full screen and did a jaws refresh. JFW 11 doesn't seem to have this problem. Thanks for any help. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Re: [Bulk] IE 9 question
Dave...
It doesn't say anything, you say? I guess you meant it doesn't say "64 bit".
Aside from the grammar that you acknowledge, I suspect they are both one and the same. Just press Alt+Enter on each one and you'll see the underlying command to launch. I suspect each are the same. If they are, then delete whichever one offends you. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfortto my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll try to remedy that situation. ----- Original Message ----- From: <ohio1803@q.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:37 Subject: [Bulk] IE 9 question On my Windows 7 home premium machine, somehow, I have 2 launch icons for Internet Explorer 9. One says 64-bit and the other one, it doesn't say nothing. Is there 2 different ones? Would it be better for one to use with JAWS? Sorry if that is too dumb a question. And for my bad grammar. <g> Thanks. Rik _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: IE 9 question
Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
as far as I know, one is 32-bit, the one that just says "internet explorer" on your system.
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Re: IE 9 question
ohio1803@...
Well, sorry. I was not precise.
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The one shortcut icon, It says Internet Explorer. And the other one, it further says, Internet Explorer (64-bit). I imagined at first that I may have gotten the two icons when I upgraded to version nine, which was several months ago. But actually when you open the program via either startup icon, you are opening version 9 of the application. Thanks. Rik
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From: Chris Smart Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 1:07 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: IE 9 question it doesn't say anything? Anyway one is 64-bit and the other is 32-bit. Use whichever one you like. At 02:37 PM 8/11/2011, you wrote: On my Windows 7 home premium machine, somehow, I have 2 launch icons for Internet Explorer 9. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: IE 9 question
Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
it doesn't say anything?
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Anyway one is 64-bit and the other is 32-bit. Use whichever one you like.
At 02:37 PM 8/11/2011, you wrote:
On my Windows 7 home premium machine, somehow, I have 2 launch icons for Internet Explorer 9.
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IE 9 question
ohio1803@...
On my Windows 7 home premium machine, somehow, I have 2 launch icons for Internet Explorer 9.
One says 64-bit and the other one, it doesn't say nothing. Is there 2 different ones? Would it be better for one to use with JAWS? Sorry if that is too dumb a question. And for my bad grammar. <g> Thanks. Rik
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Re: [Bulk] labs.google
ohio1803@...
I went to this link. And the top of the page, it says Google Labs was being phased out.
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I don't really know what the Labs thing was even. But I was curious and went and looked. There was a ton of other things on the page that Google had and I did not check them out. So if you would not mind, what is or was Google Labs? I assume it is not pictures of dogs. <g> Thanks. Rik
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From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 4:27 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: [Bulk] labs.google How about trying the completely accessible Google Labs without the /accessible ending? I just created this results page that way, and it shows headings, etc.: http://www.googlelabs.com/ I find google's /accessible versions of its search sites often limiting. For example, on the regular Google search pages, the /accessible version doesn't list the number of total hits. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Richard Sherman Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 1:55 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: [Bulk] labs.google Hi, The link I have is http://labs.google.com/accessible/ Also, google recently announced that most of the google labs will be going bye bye. Don't know how this will affect the above link and site. Want more, do a quick google search for something like google labs going away. For now, you'll have to find other ways to navigate it with jaws. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 10:36 PM What's the URL? Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfortto my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll try to remedy that situation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 21:29 Hi, Is anyone using labs.google.com and if so are they experiencing the following? You type in your search, press enter and when the list of results come up get this custom google search thing. What I mean is when I try to read the results, its like the results from google and not how it normally is displayed for labs.google. Man, I hope I am making sense. I cannot move by heading or anything like that. If you understand what I am saying, please provide a response. If not, go ahead and write back and yell at me and I will try to explain better off list. Thankyou. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Update for Windows Live Essentials
ohio1803@...
I also did the update this morning.
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So far I have not seen any issues relating to JAWS. My About says I now have Windows Live Mail version 2011 (Build 15.4.3538.0513) The only thing that happened to me was that the update changed the Start Menu where programs were listed. It took me awhile to find Windows Live Mail. But it was there. My update took about 15 minutes and a Restart was required. I suppose there must be a web page that lists what all was in the update. If someone has already taken the time to find it, and would post the link, I thank him or her in advance! Thanks. Rik
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From: Gezim Rexha Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:12 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Update for Windows Live Essentials Hello David, Finally, I made the decision and installed the updates, and it is working fine with JAWS. Actually, I can't see any difference. My current Windows Live Mail version is: Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3538.0513) With best wishes, Gezim -----Original Message----- From: David Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 1:17 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Update for Windows Live Essentials Hello there; Well, yes the latest version of windows live essentials does work with jaws 12, however, just be aware, the latest version will incorporate the ribbon, so you'll need to learn how to navigate the menus, Other then that? It's fine. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gezim Rexha Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:33 AM To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com Subject: Update for Windows Live Essentials Hi all, My computer is telling me that an update for Windows Live essentials is available. Before deciding to install it, I wanted to ask if anybody of you has tried it to make sure that it works with JAWS. Regards, Gezim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/201108 10/65a6b8ec/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: [Bulk] JAWS Key/Insert + F11 and F12 Not speaking
Dave...
Make sure that your system tray is enabled. I don't have Win 7 yet, but in
XP you can open properties of the taskbar by using Alt+Enter when on it. The items in that dialog called "Notification Area" pertain to the system tray. Also in that dialog you can see if the taskbar is positioned appropriately. Again this is XP; perhaps similar in Win 7. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfortto my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll try to remedy that situation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Milton Ota" <mota@hawaii.rr.com> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:11 Subject: [Bulk] JAWS Key/Insert + F11 and F12 Not speaking Just purchased a brand new Dell laptop with Win 7 and have installed the latest version/build of Jaws and when pressing the Jaws Key/Insert + F11 or F12 cannot hear the items in the System Tray or Clock? It seems that all other function keys are working normal. Can anyone suggest places to make adjustments so that these keystrokes will work. Thanks in advance. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20110811/156de9be/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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JAWS Key/Insert + F11 and F12 Not speaking
Milton Ota <mota@...>
Just purchased a brand new Dell laptop with Win 7 and have installed the
latest version/build of Jaws and when pressing the Jaws Key/Insert + F11 or F12 cannot hear the items in the System Tray or Clock? It seems that all other function keys are working normal. Can anyone suggest places to make adjustments so that these keystrokes will work. Thanks in advance. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20110811/156de9be/attachment.html>
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accessible?
Hina Altaf <haltaf@...>
Hi,
Does anyone know of any key logger software accessible with jaws? Thanks. Hina. *** NOTE: Our Domain Name has changed from rockfordcenter.org to centerforsighthearing.org. Please make any necessary changes to your contact list to reflect this change in our email addresses. Thank You *** This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Please notify the sender immediately via email if you have received this email by mistake, then delete this email from your system. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Center for Sight & Hearing. The Center does not accept liability for the content in this email or for the results of actions taken based on the information provided unless that information is confirmed in writing. Warning: Computer viruses can be transmitted through email. The recipient should verify this email and any attachments for viruses. Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the Center does not accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arises from the use of this email or attachments. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20110811/62f38ff7/attachment.html>
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Re: Method to the FS Madness
Dave...
Ted,
Manual writer? Even the on-demand help files with keyboard shortcuts are way behind. They still claim that Ctrl+Shift+1 in Excel will read the top cell of a column -- it will not, as of JAWS 12. Just one example. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfortto my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll try to remedy that situation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisle, Ted" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:26 Subject: RE: Method to the FS Madness Context-sensitive key strokes make perfect sense, and your initiative is just what the doc ordered. Now, if the manual writer(s) would just mention this sort of thing in passing, it would flatten the learning curve for all. Ted -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:01 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Method to the FS Madness Recently, there was a thread on this list discussing use of control plus JAWS key (insert) plus g. It seems that the command performs two functions. This seemed to me like a blatant inconsistency. Well, there is still an inconsistency, but I accidentally discovered a method to Freedom Scientific's madness. Within Internet Explorer, and presumably FireFox as well, so-called quick keys permit one to jump to various elements, both forward and backward. Those keys are h for header, b for button, r for radio button, g for graphic, I for item in a list, t for table, and so on. There are a bunch of them. Add the shift key to any of the foregoing to jump backwards. The JAWS help system says that any of these quick keys can be converted into a command to display a list of the selected element just by using control plus JAWS key (insert) with the letter. So, control plus insert plus t will produce a list of tables. But wait a minute! Control plus insert plus b is the command for Braille options. Control plus insert plus g is the graphics labeler. Aren't there bound to be inconsistencies? So, I ran a little test. To my surprise, when I pressed control plus insert plus b, even within Internet Explorer, I got Braille options. Now, some of you doubtless think I'm about as dense as a Mahogany desk, but it didn't occur to me immediately what the problem was. Initially, I just thought FS was flakey. Well, that may be true, but not because of pure inconsistency with these commands. After trying control plus insert plus b, I tried control plus insert plus g. Guess what? The graphics labeler started up. Then the dawn of understanding illuminated my darkened mind. I had automatic forms mode turned on, and my cursor was sitting in an edit field. When I moved out of the edit box and the virtual cursor took over, control plus insert plus g produced, as expected, a list of graphics. Control plus insert plus b produced a list of buttons. So, even within Internet Explorer, the keystrokes can produce completely different results, depending upon whether or not the virtual cursor is active. If the virtual cursor is on, insert plus control plus a quick key will produce a list of the elements related to the quick key. If, however, forms mode is on, whether triggered automatically or manually invoked, these keystrokes will produce the results one would expect outside the Internet. So, when one drills down far enough, there is, indeed, a method to Freedom Scientific's madness. Of course, that this whole thing troubled me so much probably gives you cause to think I'm mad too, but for those who are curious (or as mad as I am), this sort of makes sense. ######################################################################## ##################################### ANY FEDERAL TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE SHOULD NOT BE USED OR REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED, AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE. ######################################################################## ##################################### This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. 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Re: Method to the FS Madness
Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Context-sensitive key strokes make perfect sense, and your initiative is
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just what the doc ordered. Now, if the manual writer(s) would just mention this sort of thing in passing, it would flatten the learning curve for all. Ted
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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:01 AM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Method to the FS Madness Recently, there was a thread on this list discussing use of control plus JAWS key (insert) plus g. It seems that the command performs two functions. This seemed to me like a blatant inconsistency. Well, there is still an inconsistency, but I accidentally discovered a method to Freedom Scientific's madness. Within Internet Explorer, and presumably FireFox as well, so-called quick keys permit one to jump to various elements, both forward and backward. Those keys are h for header, b for button, r for radio button, g for graphic, I for item in a list, t for table, and so on. There are a bunch of them. Add the shift key to any of the foregoing to jump backwards. The JAWS help system says that any of these quick keys can be converted into a command to display a list of the selected element just by using control plus JAWS key (insert) with the letter. So, control plus insert plus t will produce a list of tables. But wait a minute! Control plus insert plus b is the command for Braille options. Control plus insert plus g is the graphics labeler. Aren't there bound to be inconsistencies? So, I ran a little test. To my surprise, when I pressed control plus insert plus b, even within Internet Explorer, I got Braille options. Now, some of you doubtless think I'm about as dense as a Mahogany desk, but it didn't occur to me immediately what the problem was. Initially, I just thought FS was flakey. Well, that may be true, but not because of pure inconsistency with these commands. After trying control plus insert plus b, I tried control plus insert plus g. Guess what? The graphics labeler started up. Then the dawn of understanding illuminated my darkened mind. I had automatic forms mode turned on, and my cursor was sitting in an edit field. When I moved out of the edit box and the virtual cursor took over, control plus insert plus g produced, as expected, a list of graphics. Control plus insert plus b produced a list of buttons. So, even within Internet Explorer, the keystrokes can produce completely different results, depending upon whether or not the virtual cursor is active. If the virtual cursor is on, insert plus control plus a quick key will produce a list of the elements related to the quick key. If, however, forms mode is on, whether triggered automatically or manually invoked, these keystrokes will produce the results one would expect outside the Internet. So, when one drills down far enough, there is, indeed, a method to Freedom Scientific's madness. Of course, that this whole thing troubled me so much probably gives you cause to think I'm mad too, but for those who are curious (or as mad as I am), this sort of makes sense. ######################################################################## ##################################### ANY FEDERAL TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE SHOULD NOT BE USED OR REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED, AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE. ######################################################################## ##################################### This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender at 402-346-6000 and delete this E-mail message. Thank you. ######################################################################## ##################################### _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: Method to the FS Madness
Dave...
Ed,
Good detective work, and yes it makes sense how these keystrokes could change based on the state of virtual cursor. Now the question still remains: If I was on the web page and in virtual mode and there was a graphic I wanted to auto-label (sorry for the run-on) -- how would I do it? I guess I'd have to route JAWS to the virtual cursor first, and then invoke the auto-graphic label function. I think the snakes of Freedom Medusa's hair are becoming more entangled, as FS tries to accommodate every situation to a keystroke. There are an infinite number of elements one could wish to have controlled by a keystroke, but a finite number of keystrokes possible with only 8 fingers and two thumbs. And only a few modifier keys on a standard keyboard. From my perspective, and from the perspective of still being royally tickedwith FS's debacle with Excel, I would greatly appreciate them not taking away key combinations in the interest of creating new ones. FS -- are you reading? Get some hair-straightener and design consistent code. Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfortto my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll try to remedy that situation. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:01 Subject: Method to the FS Madness Recently, there was a thread on this list discussing use of control plus JAWS key (insert) plus g. It seems that the command performs two functions. This seemed to me like a blatant inconsistency. Well, there is still an inconsistency, but I accidentally discovered a method to Freedom Scientific's madness. Within Internet Explorer, and presumably FireFox as well, so-called quick keys permit one to jump to various elements, both forward and backward. Those keys are h for header, b for button, r for radio button, g for graphic, I for item in a list, t for table, and so on. There are a bunch of them. Add the shift key to any of the foregoing to jump backwards. The JAWS help system says that any of these quick keys can be converted into a command to display a list of the selected element just by using control plus JAWS key (insert) with the letter. So, control plus insert plus t will produce a list of tables. But wait a minute! Control plus insert plus b is the command for Braille options. Control plus insert plus g is the graphics labeler. Aren't there bound to be inconsistencies? So, I ran a little test. To my surprise, when I pressed control plus insert plus b, even within Internet Explorer, I got Braille options. Now, some of you doubtless think I'm about as dense as a Mahogany desk, but it didn't occur to me immediately what the problem was. Initially, I just thought FS was flakey. Well, that may be true, but not because of pure inconsistency with these commands. After trying control plus insert plus b, I tried control plus insert plus g. Guess what? The graphics labeler started up. Then the dawn of understanding illuminated my darkened mind. I had automatic forms mode turned on, and my cursor was sitting in an edit field. When I moved out of the edit box and the virtual cursor took over, control plus insert plus g produced, as expected, a list of graphics. Control plus insert plus b produced a list of buttons. So, even within Internet Explorer, the keystrokes can produce completely different results, depending upon whether or not the virtual cursor is active. If the virtual cursor is on, insert plus control plus a quick key will produce a list of the elements related to the quick key. If, however, forms mode is on, whether triggered automatically or manually invoked, these keystrokes will produce the results one would expect outside the Internet. So, when one drills down far enough, there is, indeed, a method to Freedom Scientific's madness. Of course, that this whole thing troubled me so much probably gives you cause to think I'm mad too, but for those who are curious (or as mad as I am), this sort of makes sense. ############################################################################################################# ANY FEDERAL TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE SHOULD NOT BE USED OR REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED, AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE. ############################################################################################################# This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. 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Method to the FS Madness
Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
Recently, there was a thread on this list discussing use of control plus JAWS key (insert) plus g.
It seems that the command performs two functions. This seemed to me like a blatant inconsistency. Well, there is still an inconsistency, but I accidentally discovered a method to Freedom Scientific's madness. Within Internet Explorer, and presumably FireFox as well, so-called quick keys permit one to jump to various elements, both forward and backward. Those keys are h for header, b for button, r for radio button, g for graphic, I for item in a list, t for table, and so on. There are a bunch of them. Add the shift key to any of the foregoing to jump backwards. The JAWS help system says that any of these quick keys can be converted into a command to display a list of the selected element just by using control plus JAWS key (insert) with the letter. So, control plus insert plus t will produce a list of tables. But wait a minute! Control plus insert plus b is the command for Braille options. Control plus insert plus g is the graphics labeler. Aren't there bound to be inconsistencies? So, I ran a little test. To my surprise, when I pressed control plus insert plus b, even within Internet Explorer, I got Braille options. Now, some of you doubtless think I'm about as dense as a Mahogany desk, but it didn't occur to me immediately what the problem was. Initially, I just thought FS was flakey. Well, that may be true, but not because of pure inconsistency with these commands. After trying control plus insert plus b, I tried control plus insert plus g. Guess what? The graphics labeler started up. Then the dawn of understanding illuminated my darkened mind. I had automatic forms mode turned on, and my cursor was sitting in an edit field. When I moved out of the edit box and the virtual cursor took over, control plus insert plus g produced, as expected, a list of graphics. Control plus insert plus b produced a list of buttons. So, even within Internet Explorer, the keystrokes can produce completely different results, depending upon whether or not the virtual cursor is active. If the virtual cursor is on, insert plus control plus a quick key will produce a list of the elements related to the quick key. If, however, forms mode is on, whether triggered automatically or manually invoked, these keystrokes will produce the results one would expect outside the Internet. So, when one drills down far enough, there is, indeed, a method to Freedom Scientific's madness. Of course, that this whole thing troubled me so much probably gives you cause to think I'm mad too, but for those who are curious (or as mad as I am), this sort of makes sense. ############################################################################################################# ANY FEDERAL TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE SHOULD NOT BE USED OR REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED, AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE. ############################################################################################################# This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender at 402-346-6000 and delete this E-mail message. Thank you. #############################################################################################################
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