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Re: Alt-tab appears random in Win7

Tony
 

Any window that has been minimized will not appear in the alt-tag rotation,
you have to use the jaws key-f10 to bring up the list of all running
programs.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 11:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Alt-tab appears random in Win7

Beats me, I'm pretty sure the pane is always present on screen for me during
an alt+tab, even though jaws only reads the application name.
I do however seem to recall the pane sorta getting stuck, but that's only a
very vague recollection.

On 2/8/13, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
Soronel,

Thanks. As I'm going over saved JAWS list messages on Win7 and office
2010 questions to teach myself my new system, I notice a message you
posted concerning the task switch pane. This pane isn't ever-present,
but it does crop up from time to time. Could this be a clue?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel
Haetir
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 11:36 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Alt-tab appears random in Win7

Not sure what is going on for you but it seems pretty stable to me,
creating a last-in first out stack, the application I had focus on
being first in line, the application that had focus next and so on.

I do notice that from the system tray I need to use alt+shift+tab to
get to the last focused application rather than alt+tab, alt+tab takes
me to what I would think of as the second app in line.

On 2/8/13, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
With XP, I could predict in which application a press of alt-tab
would
land
me. In essence, it was wherever I'd last been.



I'm finding in Win7 that there's no pattern. I could land in the
previous application or just about any other open window, including the
desktop.

Similarly, if I go to the system tray and escape out of it, often as
not I end up in an application that is different from the one I was
working in.



Has anyone else done a better job of detecting patterns? Is there, by
any chance, a solution?

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Re: Alt-tab appears random in Win7

Soronel Haetir
 

Beats me, I'm pretty sure the pane is always present on screen for me
during an alt+tab, even though jaws only reads the application name.
I do however seem to recall the pane sorta getting stuck, but that's
only a very vague recollection.

On 2/8/13, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
Soronel,

Thanks. As I'm going over saved JAWS list messages on Win7 and office 2010
questions to teach myself my new system, I notice a message you posted
concerning the task switch pane. This pane isn't ever-present, but it does
crop up from time to time. Could this be a clue?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel
Haetir
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 11:36 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Alt-tab appears random in Win7

Not sure what is going on for you but it seems pretty stable to me,
creating a last-in first out stack, the application I had focus on
being first in line, the application that had focus next and so on.

I do notice that from the system tray I need to use alt+shift+tab to
get to the last focused application rather than alt+tab, alt+tab takes
me to what I would think of as the second app in line.

On 2/8/13, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
With XP, I could predict in which application a press of alt-tab would
land
me. In essence, it was wherever I'd last been.



I'm finding in Win7 that there's no pattern. I could land in the previous
application or just about any other open window, including the desktop.

Similarly, if I go to the system tray and escape out of it, often as not
I
end up in an application that is different from the one I was working in.



Has anyone else done a better job of detecting patterns? Is there, by any
chance, a solution?

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Re: Alt-tab appears random in Win7

Adrian Spratt
 

Soronel,

Thanks. As I'm going over saved JAWS list messages on Win7 and office 2010
questions to teach myself my new system, I notice a message you posted
concerning the task switch pane. This pane isn't ever-present, but it does
crop up from time to time. Could this be a clue?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 11:36 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Alt-tab appears random in Win7

Not sure what is going on for you but it seems pretty stable to me,
creating a last-in first out stack, the application I had focus on
being first in line, the application that had focus next and so on.

I do notice that from the system tray I need to use alt+shift+tab to
get to the last focused application rather than alt+tab, alt+tab takes
me to what I would think of as the second app in line.

On 2/8/13, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
With XP, I could predict in which application a press of alt-tab would
land
me. In essence, it was wherever I'd last been.



I'm finding in Win7 that there's no pattern. I could land in the previous
application or just about any other open window, including the desktop.

Similarly, if I go to the system tray and escape out of it, often as not I
end up in an application that is different from the one I was working in.



Has anyone else done a better job of detecting patterns? Is there, by any
chance, a solution?

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Re: Alt-tab appears random in Win7

Soronel Haetir
 

Not sure what is going on for you but it seems pretty stable to me,
creating a last-in first out stack, the application I had focus on
being first in line, the application that had focus next and so on.

I do notice that from the system tray I need to use alt+shift+tab to
get to the last focused application rather than alt+tab, alt+tab takes
me to what I would think of as the second app in line.

On 2/8/13, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
With XP, I could predict in which application a press of alt-tab would land
me. In essence, it was wherever I'd last been.



I'm finding in Win7 that there's no pattern. I could land in the previous
application or just about any other open window, including the desktop.

Similarly, if I go to the system tray and escape out of it, often as not I
end up in an application that is different from the one I was working in.



Has anyone else done a better job of detecting patterns? Is there, by any
chance, a solution?

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Accessible Portable GPS

Jamie Davis <jdmusicman1971@...>
 

I am currently researching portable gps systems with turn-by-turn directions
with ability to have a pedestrian mode. Does anyone know of a portable gps
that would have these features As well As FULL READ OUT? I have a PacMate
Omni BX400, but I can't afford the gps unit, nor do I want to have to carry
around both the unit attached to the PacMate. I was looking at a Garmin
model, but some of the features probably aren't accessible. In addition, it
has the touch keypad. Anyone with any information regarding this I would be
most grateful. Thanks in advance for your feedback.



Jamie



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Alt-tab appears random in Win7

Adrian Spratt
 

With XP, I could predict in which application a press of alt-tab would land
me. In essence, it was wherever I'd last been.



I'm finding in Win7 that there's no pattern. I could land in the previous
application or just about any other open window, including the desktop.

Similarly, if I go to the system tray and escape out of it, often as not I
end up in an application that is different from the one I was working in.



Has anyone else done a better job of detecting patterns? Is there, by any
chance, a solution?

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Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Adrian Spratt
 

Dave, I misspoke in the message I just sent. I read this message here late
last night, where you correctly assign the blame to MS. For some reason, I
heard FS.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 1:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Adrian,

So you definitely cannot press the Application key (or shift+f10) on the
message in the list, and then find a context-menu item called attachments,
and get the list that way?

If not, then shame on MS.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 18:34
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


In the three-month-old thread below, the question was whether Dave Carlson's
application key method of reaching an email attachment in Outlook 2003 and
2007 still works in 2010. The last post was from Dani, who described her
method of managing Outlook 2010 email attachments, and it implied that
Dave's no longer works.

I'm sorry to confirm that, yes, the applications key method no longer
works. I learned about it for the first time in this thread, so I had only
three months to benefit from it before switching to Outlook 2010.

The one addition I'd make to Dani's technique is that once you land on an
the attachment field with shift-tab, you can arrow through the attachments,
if there is more than one, and press enter on the one selected to open or
save. No need to go into the ribbon, at least for those two operations.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dani L Pagador
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Hi, Ed and Dave.
I'm using Win7 64-bit with Outlook 2010, and haven't made the shift to JFW14
yet.
When I ctrl+shift+o in an open message, JFW says there are no objects to
display.
If the message has attachment(s), I can shift+tab to get to the attachments
list. When I select the attachment I want, shift+F10 gets me to the ribbon,
and the tab I land on is called Attachments. Arrow down to the Actions
submenu, and find options to open, save, print, or remove the attachment.
HTH,
Dani

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Ed,

Looking forward to your findings.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 14:25
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


OK.
I'm obviously confused.
In Outlook 2003, if, while in a message, I press control + shift + O, the
message is converted to plain text, and the embedded messages are moved up
to the attachment box. Then, one can press shift + tab to land on the
attachments. From there, one can open the message attachments. That, I
think, is what Ann is describing.
I thought Ted was saying one can no longer do that in Outlook 2010.
Actually, I'm due to get Outlook 2010 this weekend. So, I'll try all the
keystrokes suggested here and then report.
Speculation is fun, but actually testing in the actual program tends to
produce more reliable results. <SMILE>
I thought it was in one of the Hadley seminars that I heard Dave's method of

pressing the App key in the message list no longer produces an applications
menu with attachments displayed. Perhaps that referred to 2010 only and not

to 2007 and 2010.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

But if while in the message you shift-tab once, your cursor
is on the attachment name. then just press enter to open it.
At 03:50 PM 11/29/2012, you wrote:
OK. I was told wrong. Perhaps it is just Outlook 2010 that has
disabled the technique that, like you, I use almost daily.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Ed,

Beg to differ. This is exactly the way I've done it with Outlook 2007 with
versions of JAWS all the way back to 11. I'm using Windows 7, if that helps
to clear the discrepancy.

Pressing the Apps key (or Shift+F10) opens a context menu with "View
Attachments submenu" as the choice with the hotkey "H".

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:20
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


Dave:
Looking forward to your report.
I agree that using the App key on the message list is a much better way to
get to attachments in Outlook 2003.
I'm told, however, that it is no longer possible to use this function in
Outlook 2007 or 2010?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Adrian,

Yes, I recall that with my copy of Outlook 2007 it also requires that I
right click (or Apps key) and select open to open attachments. I think this
has been in place since JAWS 12, but not certain at this point. However you
can also open the attachments from the message list:

Highlight the message with the attachment.
Right click or Apps key.
"H" for attachment.
Press enter on the desired attachment from the context menu.

I find this a lot faster than opening the message first, when I don't need
to see the message body text for context.

I will be reporting in another couple weeks on an ongoing experiment I'm
running with JAWS, Windows 7 and Office 2007. Very interesting things
happening -- or perhaps not happening any more.

Stay tuned.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 11:23
Subject: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


Hi. A friend whose law firm still uses Outlook 2003 installed JAWS 14 the
other day and found that she could no longer open email attachments as
easily as she had done before. Instead of just pressing enter to open one,
she now has to right-click, then go to open and then press enter. Only two
more steps, yes, but a nuisance when it's a task we perform dozens of times
every day.

However, here's the reason I'm posting this message. She contacted FS Tech
Support and was told that JAWS 14 does not support Outlook 2003.

If anyone has a different experience, I'd be curious. Otherwise, this is an
FYI to any listers who, like me, still live in the pre-ribbon era.

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Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Adrian Spratt
 

Hi, Dave and David.

Yes, the November thread established that the applications key method worked
through 2007. I've double-checked this morning, not wanting to post
misinformation, and I'm confident that it was broken in 2010.

Note, Granddad, that I don't think it's a JAWS issue. Those application
key/right click options are determined by Microsoft. IN this case, they've
done the opposite of "Microbloat." They shrunk out a time-saving procedure.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

David,

Yes, that's my experience with Outlook 2007. However Adrian's point is that
Outlook 2010 appears to no longer work that way.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Whitehead" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 07:26
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


hello there;
well, in outlook 2007, you can actually press,
the applications key on a highlighted attached message,
now up arrow enter on, view attachments sub menu,
here you can choose to open or save.

hope this helps.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 1:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Adrian,

So you definitely cannot press the Application key (or shift+f10) on the
message in the list, and then find a context-menu item called attachments,
and get the list that way?

If not, then shame on MS.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 18:34
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


In the three-month-old thread below, the question was whether Dave Carlson's
application key method of reaching an email attachment in Outlook 2003 and
2007 still works in 2010. The last post was from Dani, who described her
method of managing Outlook 2010 email attachments, and it implied that
Dave's no longer works.

I'm sorry to confirm that, yes, the applications key method no longer
works. I learned about it for the first time in this thread, so I had only
three months to benefit from it before switching to Outlook 2010.

The one addition I'd make to Dani's technique is that once you land on an
the attachment field with shift-tab, you can arrow through the attachments,
if there is more than one, and press enter on the one selected to open or
save. No need to go into the ribbon, at least for those two operations.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dani L Pagador
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Hi, Ed and Dave.
I'm using Win7 64-bit with Outlook 2010, and haven't made the shift to JFW14
yet.
When I ctrl+shift+o in an open message, JFW says there are no objects to
display.
If the message has attachment(s), I can shift+tab to get to the attachments
list. When I select the attachment I want, shift+F10 gets me to the ribbon,
and the tab I land on is called Attachments. Arrow down to the Actions
submenu, and find options to open, save, print, or remove the attachment.
HTH,
Dani

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Ed,

Looking forward to your findings.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 14:25
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


OK.
I'm obviously confused.
In Outlook 2003, if, while in a message, I press control + shift + O, the
message is converted to plain text, and the embedded messages are moved up
to the attachment box. Then, one can press shift + tab to land on the
attachments. From there, one can open the message attachments. That, I
think, is what Ann is describing.
I thought Ted was saying one can no longer do that in Outlook 2010.
Actually, I'm due to get Outlook 2010 this weekend. So, I'll try all the
keystrokes suggested here and then report.
Speculation is fun, but actually testing in the actual program tends to
produce more reliable results. <SMILE>
I thought it was in one of the Hadley seminars that I heard Dave's method of

pressing the App key in the message list no longer produces an applications
menu with attachments displayed. Perhaps that referred to 2010 only and not

to 2007 and 2010.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

But if while in the message you shift-tab once, your cursor
is on the attachment name. then just press enter to open it.
At 03:50 PM 11/29/2012, you wrote:
OK. I was told wrong. Perhaps it is just Outlook 2010 that has
disabled the technique that, like you, I use almost daily.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Ed,

Beg to differ. This is exactly the way I've done it with Outlook 2007 with
versions of JAWS all the way back to 11. I'm using Windows 7, if that helps
to clear the discrepancy.

Pressing the Apps key (or Shift+F10) opens a context menu with "View
Attachments submenu" as the choice with the hotkey "H".

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:20
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


Dave:
Looking forward to your report.
I agree that using the App key on the message list is a much better way to
get to attachments in Outlook 2003.
I'm told, however, that it is no longer possible to use this function in
Outlook 2007 or 2010?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Adrian,

Yes, I recall that with my copy of Outlook 2007 it also requires that I
right click (or Apps key) and select open to open attachments. I think this
has been in place since JAWS 12, but not certain at this point. However you
can also open the attachments from the message list:

Highlight the message with the attachment.
Right click or Apps key.
"H" for attachment.
Press enter on the desired attachment from the context menu.

I find this a lot faster than opening the message first, when I don't need
to see the message body text for context.

I will be reporting in another couple weeks on an ongoing experiment I'm
running with JAWS, Windows 7 and Office 2007. Very interesting things
happening -- or perhaps not happening any more.

Stay tuned.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 11:23
Subject: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


Hi. A friend whose law firm still uses Outlook 2003 installed JAWS 14 the
other day and found that she could no longer open email attachments as
easily as she had done before. Instead of just pressing enter to open one,
she now has to right-click, then go to open and then press enter. Only two
more steps, yes, but a nuisance when it's a task we perform dozens of times
every day.

However, here's the reason I'm posting this message. She contacted FS Tech
Support and was told that JAWS 14 does not support Outlook 2003.

If anyone has a different experience, I'd be curious. Otherwise, this is an
FYI to any listers who, like me, still live in the pre-ribbon era.

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Re: Bookmarking a link on an internet page for future use

Adrian Spratt
 

I believe you mean in Internet Explorer. Try setting a placemarker. This is
how it's done now, and I think this method also applied in JAWS 11.

1. Place focus on the link.

2. Press control-shift-k to bring up the placemarker dialog .

3. Tab once to a field that I believe is called "add." Press spacebar.

4. Now tab through the options. In this case, I wouldn't set for all pages
on the website, but I would anchor the placemarker to text.

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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:36 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Bookmarking a link on an internet page for future use

Hi all,

Using JFW11 and WinXP can I add a bookmark in part of a page in Windows
explorer, if so, any help would be appreciated.

Marion

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Hi all,

Using JFW11 and WinXP can I add a bookmark in part of a page in Windows explorer, if so, any help would be appreciated.

Marion

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Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Dave...
 

David,

Yes, that's my experience with Outlook 2007. However Adrian's point is that
Outlook 2010 appears to no longer work that way.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Whitehead" <davidwhitehead1957@cogeco.ca>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 07:26
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


hello there;
well, in outlook 2007, you can actually press,
the applications key on a highlighted attached message,
now up arrow enter on, view attachments sub menu,
here you can choose to open or save.

hope this helps.



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 1:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Adrian,

So you definitely cannot press the Application key (or shift+f10) on the
message in the list, and then find a context-menu item called attachments,
and get the list that way?

If not, then shame on MS.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 18:34
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


In the three-month-old thread below, the question was whether Dave Carlson's
application key method of reaching an email attachment in Outlook 2003 and
2007 still works in 2010. The last post was from Dani, who described her
method of managing Outlook 2010 email attachments, and it implied that
Dave's no longer works.

I'm sorry to confirm that, yes, the applications key method no longer
works. I learned about it for the first time in this thread, so I had only
three months to benefit from it before switching to Outlook 2010.

The one addition I'd make to Dani's technique is that once you land on an
the attachment field with shift-tab, you can arrow through the attachments,
if there is more than one, and press enter on the one selected to open or
save. No need to go into the ribbon, at least for those two operations.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dani L Pagador
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Hi, Ed and Dave.
I'm using Win7 64-bit with Outlook 2010, and haven't made the shift to JFW14
yet.
When I ctrl+shift+o in an open message, JFW says there are no objects to
display.
If the message has attachment(s), I can shift+tab to get to the attachments
list. When I select the attachment I want, shift+F10 gets me to the ribbon,
and the tab I land on is called Attachments. Arrow down to the Actions
submenu, and find options to open, save, print, or remove the attachment.
HTH,
Dani

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Ed,

Looking forward to your findings.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 14:25
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


OK.
I'm obviously confused.
In Outlook 2003, if, while in a message, I press control + shift + O, the
message is converted to plain text, and the embedded messages are moved up
to the attachment box. Then, one can press shift + tab to land on the
attachments. From there, one can open the message attachments. That, I
think, is what Ann is describing.
I thought Ted was saying one can no longer do that in Outlook 2010.
Actually, I'm due to get Outlook 2010 this weekend. So, I'll try all the
keystrokes suggested here and then report.
Speculation is fun, but actually testing in the actual program tends to
produce more reliable results. <SMILE>
I thought it was in one of the Hadley seminars that I heard Dave's method of

pressing the App key in the message list no longer produces an applications
menu with attachments displayed. Perhaps that referred to 2010 only and not

to 2007 and 2010.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

But if while in the message you shift-tab once, your cursor
is on the attachment name. then just press enter to open it.
At 03:50 PM 11/29/2012, you wrote:
OK. I was told wrong. Perhaps it is just Outlook 2010 that has
disabled the technique that, like you, I use almost daily.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Ed,

Beg to differ. This is exactly the way I've done it with Outlook 2007 with
versions of JAWS all the way back to 11. I'm using Windows 7, if that helps
to clear the discrepancy.

Pressing the Apps key (or Shift+F10) opens a context menu with "View
Attachments submenu" as the choice with the hotkey "H".

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:20
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


Dave:
Looking forward to your report.
I agree that using the App key on the message list is a much better way to
get to attachments in Outlook 2003.
I'm told, however, that it is no longer possible to use this function in
Outlook 2007 or 2010?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Adrian,

Yes, I recall that with my copy of Outlook 2007 it also requires that I
right click (or Apps key) and select open to open attachments. I think this
has been in place since JAWS 12, but not certain at this point. However you
can also open the attachments from the message list:

Highlight the message with the attachment.
Right click or Apps key.
"H" for attachment.
Press enter on the desired attachment from the context menu.

I find this a lot faster than opening the message first, when I don't need
to see the message body text for context.

I will be reporting in another couple weeks on an ongoing experiment I'm
running with JAWS, Windows 7 and Office 2007. Very interesting things
happening -- or perhaps not happening any more.

Stay tuned.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 11:23
Subject: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


Hi. A friend whose law firm still uses Outlook 2003 installed JAWS 14 the
other day and found that she could no longer open email attachments as
easily as she had done before. Instead of just pressing enter to open one,
she now has to right-click, then go to open and then press enter. Only two
more steps, yes, but a nuisance when it's a task we perform dozens of times
every day.

However, here's the reason I'm posting this message. She contacted FS Tech
Support and was told that JAWS 14 does not support Outlook 2003.

If anyone has a different experience, I'd be curious. Otherwise, this is an
FYI to any listers who, like me, still live in the pre-ribbon era.

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Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

David Whitehead <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

hello there;
well, in outlook 2007, you can actually press,
the applications key on a highlighted attached message,
now up arrow enter on, view attachments sub menu,
here you can choose to open or save.

hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 1:34 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Adrian,

So you definitely cannot press the Application key (or shift+f10) on the
message in the list, and then find a context-menu item called attachments,
and get the list that way?

If not, then shame on MS.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 18:34
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


In the three-month-old thread below, the question was whether Dave Carlson's
application key method of reaching an email attachment in Outlook 2003 and
2007 still works in 2010. The last post was from Dani, who described her
method of managing Outlook 2010 email attachments, and it implied that
Dave's no longer works.

I'm sorry to confirm that, yes, the applications key method no longer
works. I learned about it for the first time in this thread, so I had only
three months to benefit from it before switching to Outlook 2010.

The one addition I'd make to Dani's technique is that once you land on an
the attachment field with shift-tab, you can arrow through the attachments,
if there is more than one, and press enter on the one selected to open or
save. No need to go into the ribbon, at least for those two operations.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dani L Pagador
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Hi, Ed and Dave.
I'm using Win7 64-bit with Outlook 2010, and haven't made the shift to JFW14
yet.
When I ctrl+shift+o in an open message, JFW says there are no objects to
display.
If the message has attachment(s), I can shift+tab to get to the attachments
list. When I select the attachment I want, shift+F10 gets me to the ribbon,
and the tab I land on is called Attachments. Arrow down to the Actions
submenu, and find options to open, save, print, or remove the attachment.
HTH,
Dani

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Ed,

Looking forward to your findings.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 14:25
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


OK.
I'm obviously confused.
In Outlook 2003, if, while in a message, I press control + shift + O, the
message is converted to plain text, and the embedded messages are moved up
to the attachment box. Then, one can press shift + tab to land on the
attachments. From there, one can open the message attachments. That, I
think, is what Ann is describing.
I thought Ted was saying one can no longer do that in Outlook 2010.
Actually, I'm due to get Outlook 2010 this weekend. So, I'll try all the
keystrokes suggested here and then report.
Speculation is fun, but actually testing in the actual program tends to
produce more reliable results. <SMILE>
I thought it was in one of the Hadley seminars that I heard Dave's method of

pressing the App key in the message list no longer produces an applications
menu with attachments displayed. Perhaps that referred to 2010 only and not

to 2007 and 2010.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

But if while in the message you shift-tab once, your cursor
is on the attachment name. then just press enter to open it.
At 03:50 PM 11/29/2012, you wrote:
OK. I was told wrong. Perhaps it is just Outlook 2010 that has
disabled the technique that, like you, I use almost daily.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Ed,

Beg to differ. This is exactly the way I've done it with Outlook 2007 with
versions of JAWS all the way back to 11. I'm using Windows 7, if that helps
to clear the discrepancy.

Pressing the Apps key (or Shift+F10) opens a context menu with "View
Attachments submenu" as the choice with the hotkey "H".

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:20
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


Dave:
Looking forward to your report.
I agree that using the App key on the message list is a much better way to
get to attachments in Outlook 2003.
I'm told, however, that it is no longer possible to use this function in
Outlook 2007 or 2010?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Adrian,

Yes, I recall that with my copy of Outlook 2007 it also requires that I
right click (or Apps key) and select open to open attachments. I think this
has been in place since JAWS 12, but not certain at this point. However you
can also open the attachments from the message list:

Highlight the message with the attachment.
Right click or Apps key.
"H" for attachment.
Press enter on the desired attachment from the context menu.

I find this a lot faster than opening the message first, when I don't need
to see the message body text for context.

I will be reporting in another couple weeks on an ongoing experiment I'm
running with JAWS, Windows 7 and Office 2007. Very interesting things
happening -- or perhaps not happening any more.

Stay tuned.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 11:23
Subject: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


Hi. A friend whose law firm still uses Outlook 2003 installed JAWS 14 the
other day and found that she could no longer open email attachments as
easily as she had done before. Instead of just pressing enter to open one,
she now has to right-click, then go to open and then press enter. Only two
more steps, yes, but a nuisance when it's a task we perform dozens of times
every day.

However, here's the reason I'm posting this message. She contacted FS Tech
Support and was told that JAWS 14 does not support Outlook 2003.

If anyone has a different experience, I'd be curious. Otherwise, this is an
FYI to any listers who, like me, still live in the pre-ribbon era.

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Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Dave...
 

Adrian,

So you definitely cannot press the Application key (or shift+f10) on the
message in the list, and then find a context-menu item called attachments,
and get the list that way?

If not, then shame on MS.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 18:34
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


In the three-month-old thread below, the question was whether Dave Carlson's
application key method of reaching an email attachment in Outlook 2003 and
2007 still works in 2010. The last post was from Dani, who described her
method of managing Outlook 2010 email attachments, and it implied that
Dave's no longer works.

I'm sorry to confirm that, yes, the applications key method no longer
works. I learned about it for the first time in this thread, so I had only
three months to benefit from it before switching to Outlook 2010.

The one addition I'd make to Dani's technique is that once you land on an
the attachment field with shift-tab, you can arrow through the attachments,
if there is more than one, and press enter on the one selected to open or
save. No need to go into the ribbon, at least for those two operations.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dani L Pagador
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Hi, Ed and Dave.
I'm using Win7 64-bit with Outlook 2010, and haven't made the shift to JFW14
yet.
When I ctrl+shift+o in an open message, JFW says there are no objects to
display.
If the message has attachment(s), I can shift+tab to get to the attachments
list. When I select the attachment I want, shift+F10 gets me to the ribbon,
and the tab I land on is called Attachments. Arrow down to the Actions
submenu, and find options to open, save, print, or remove the attachment.
HTH,
Dani

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Ed,

Looking forward to your findings.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 14:25
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


OK.
I'm obviously confused.
In Outlook 2003, if, while in a message, I press control + shift + O, the
message is converted to plain text, and the embedded messages are moved up
to the attachment box. Then, one can press shift + tab to land on the
attachments. From there, one can open the message attachments. That, I
think, is what Ann is describing.
I thought Ted was saying one can no longer do that in Outlook 2010.
Actually, I'm due to get Outlook 2010 this weekend. So, I'll try all the
keystrokes suggested here and then report.
Speculation is fun, but actually testing in the actual program tends to
produce more reliable results. <SMILE>
I thought it was in one of the Hadley seminars that I heard Dave's method of

pressing the App key in the message list no longer produces an applications
menu with attachments displayed. Perhaps that referred to 2010 only and not

to 2007 and 2010.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

But if while in the message you shift-tab once, your cursor
is on the attachment name. then just press enter to open it.
At 03:50 PM 11/29/2012, you wrote:
OK. I was told wrong. Perhaps it is just Outlook 2010 that has
disabled the technique that, like you, I use almost daily.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Ed,

Beg to differ. This is exactly the way I've done it with Outlook 2007 with
versions of JAWS all the way back to 11. I'm using Windows 7, if that helps
to clear the discrepancy.

Pressing the Apps key (or Shift+F10) opens a context menu with "View
Attachments submenu" as the choice with the hotkey "H".

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:20
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


Dave:
Looking forward to your report.
I agree that using the App key on the message list is a much better way to
get to attachments in Outlook 2003.
I'm told, however, that it is no longer possible to use this function in
Outlook 2007 or 2010?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Adrian,

Yes, I recall that with my copy of Outlook 2007 it also requires that I
right click (or Apps key) and select open to open attachments. I think this
has been in place since JAWS 12, but not certain at this point. However you
can also open the attachments from the message list:

Highlight the message with the attachment.
Right click or Apps key.
"H" for attachment.
Press enter on the desired attachment from the context menu.

I find this a lot faster than opening the message first, when I don't need
to see the message body text for context.

I will be reporting in another couple weeks on an ongoing experiment I'm
running with JAWS, Windows 7 and Office 2007. Very interesting things
happening -- or perhaps not happening any more.

Stay tuned.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 11:23
Subject: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


Hi. A friend whose law firm still uses Outlook 2003 installed JAWS 14 the
other day and found that she could no longer open email attachments as
easily as she had done before. Instead of just pressing enter to open one,
she now has to right-click, then go to open and then press enter. Only two
more steps, yes, but a nuisance when it's a task we perform dozens of times
every day.

However, here's the reason I'm posting this message. She contacted FS Tech
Support and was told that JAWS 14 does not support Outlook 2003.

If anyone has a different experience, I'd be curious. Otherwise, this is an
FYI to any listers who, like me, still live in the pre-ribbon era.

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Re: nero 11 with jaws 13 and 64 bit

Dondi
 

Hi John,

I don't know anything about Nero, but if you are looking for CD/DVD burning
software that works with JAWS try out BurnAware. It's free and I have used
it with JAWS 14 and Windows 7 64 bit and JAWS 13 Windows 7 32 bit.

Dondi
We are the music makers
And the dreamers of dreams

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John
Fioravanti
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 2:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: nero 11 with jaws 13 and 64 bit

Has anyone succssfully used nero 11 with jaws 13 and windows 64 bit? Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 4:26 PM
Subject: RE: Can Narrator's voice be replaced in a 64-bit Windows 7 system?


not a problem, if its just for narrator I think your stuck with that voice
or at least other 64bit voices. I've managed to change the text to speech
property's in windows 7 64bit to set the default computer voice to the
old
scansoft realspeak solo voices and it works for everything like the games
I
run, voices on my ipod etc and uses the old Daniel voice but ironically
the
only one it doesn't change is the narrator voice and always just reverts
back to the Anna voice, which although its not to bad if you have to use
it
for a while it does get a little annoying after a while

regards


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt
Sent: 06 February 2013 19:22
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Can Narrator's voice be replaced in a 64-bit Windows 7
system?

Strictly for Narrator, because I can't stand the default Anna. As Soronel
wrote, and as I read online, it seems the only voices you can use for
Narrator on a 64-bit Win7 system are the 64-bit variety.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Paul Lemm
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 1:34 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Can Narrator's voice be replaced in a 64-bit Windows 7
system?

Hi,

Do you mind me asking the reason for wanting to change the narrator
voice?
is it actually for narrator or so that when using third party programs
like
games etc it uses a different sappy voice,as I know the real speak
voices
that used to be shipped with older versions of jaws (version 8 and
earlier
I think) used to be able to be installed on my xp machine and these could
be
used and I believe there is a way of getting them installed on a 64bit
machine if you still have the real speak CD


Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt
Sent: 06 February 2013 12:53
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Can Narrator's voice be replaced in a 64-bit Windows 7 system?

After doing considerable googling, I am left with the impression that
anyone
with a 64-bit Win7 system is stuck for Narrator with MS's assigned voice,
Anna, which I don't like.



Can anyone prove me wrong? Please!

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Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Adrian Spratt
 

In the three-month-old thread below, the question was whether Dave Carlson's
application key method of reaching an email attachment in Outlook 2003 and
2007 still works in 2010. The last post was from Dani, who described her
method of managing Outlook 2010 email attachments, and it implied that
Dave's no longer works.

I'm sorry to confirm that, yes, the applications key method no longer
works. I learned about it for the first time in this thread, so I had only
three months to benefit from it before switching to Outlook 2010.

The one addition I'd make to Dani's technique is that once you land on an
the attachment field with shift-tab, you can arrow through the attachments,
if there is more than one, and press enter on the one selected to open or
save. No need to go into the ribbon, at least for those two operations.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dani L Pagador
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Hi, Ed and Dave.
I'm using Win7 64-bit with Outlook 2010, and haven't made the shift to JFW14
yet.
When I ctrl+shift+o in an open message, JFW says there are no objects to
display.
If the message has attachment(s), I can shift+tab to get to the attachments
list. When I select the attachment I want, shift+F10 gets me to the ribbon,
and the tab I land on is called Attachments. Arrow down to the Actions
submenu, and find options to open, save, print, or remove the attachment.
HTH,
Dani

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Ed,

Looking forward to your findings.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 14:25
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


OK.
I'm obviously confused.
In Outlook 2003, if, while in a message, I press control + shift + O, the
message is converted to plain text, and the embedded messages are moved up
to the attachment box. Then, one can press shift + tab to land on the
attachments. From there, one can open the message attachments. That, I
think, is what Ann is describing.
I thought Ted was saying one can no longer do that in Outlook 2010.
Actually, I'm due to get Outlook 2010 this weekend. So, I'll try all the
keystrokes suggested here and then report.
Speculation is fun, but actually testing in the actual program tends to
produce more reliable results. <SMILE>
I thought it was in one of the Hadley seminars that I heard Dave's method of

pressing the App key in the message list no longer produces an applications
menu with attachments displayed. Perhaps that referred to 2010 only and not

to 2007 and 2010.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 4:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

But if while in the message you shift-tab once, your cursor
is on the attachment name. then just press enter to open it.
At 03:50 PM 11/29/2012, you wrote:
OK. I was told wrong. Perhaps it is just Outlook 2010 that has
disabled the technique that, like you, I use almost daily.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Ed,

Beg to differ. This is exactly the way I've done it with Outlook 2007 with
versions of JAWS all the way back to 11. I'm using Windows 7, if that helps
to clear the discrepancy.

Pressing the Apps key (or Shift+F10) opens a context menu with "View
Attachments submenu" as the choice with the hotkey "H".

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:20
Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


Dave:
Looking forward to your report.
I agree that using the App key on the message list is a much better way to
get to attachments in Outlook 2003.
I'm told, however, that it is no longer possible to use this function in
Outlook 2007 or 2010?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:44 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14

Adrian,

Yes, I recall that with my copy of Outlook 2007 it also requires that I
right click (or Apps key) and select open to open attachments. I think this
has been in place since JAWS 12, but not certain at this point. However you
can also open the attachments from the message list:

Highlight the message with the attachment.
Right click or Apps key.
"H" for attachment.
Press enter on the desired attachment from the context menu.

I find this a lot faster than opening the message first, when I don't need
to see the message body text for context.

I will be reporting in another couple weeks on an ongoing experiment I'm
running with JAWS, Windows 7 and Office 2007. Very interesting things
happening -- or perhaps not happening any more.

Stay tuned.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 11:23
Subject: Outlook 2003 with JAWS 14


Hi. A friend whose law firm still uses Outlook 2003 installed JAWS 14 the
other day and found that she could no longer open email attachments as
easily as she had done before. Instead of just pressing enter to open one,
she now has to right-click, then go to open and then press enter. Only two
more steps, yes, but a nuisance when it's a task we perform dozens of times
every day.

However, here's the reason I'm posting this message. She contacted FS Tech
Support and was told that JAWS 14 does not support Outlook 2003.

If anyone has a different experience, I'd be curious. Otherwise, this is an
FYI to any listers who, like me, still live in the pre-ribbon era.

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Re: Changing labels in form fields?

Tom Behler
 

Ted:

I'll take this one off the Jaws list, and reply in more detail via the direct e-mail address you provide.

If you don't get my private response soon, let me know via the Jaws list, and I'll try another way.

Tom Behler: KB8TYJ

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Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: Changing labels in form fields?



they have programs on radios that actually throw your call sign out and
yes basically make the contact for you via recorded voice:0). I stay
away from the legal issues of course:0)


What is the blind ham list for subscribing?

Sorry for being off topic.



N9RAT
Bobby and Prince





From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Date: 02/07/2013 08:38 AM
Subject: RE: Changing labels in form fields?
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I guess I can understand that, some folks don't want to bother with
design issues. Contests are, by nature, fast and furious, and
most programs are designed to streamline the process. Some of them do
everything except make the contact for you; I think that's on the agenda
for next year.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of George B
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 7:01 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Changing labels in form fields?

They have the thing protected except where you can type in a field

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Behler
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 15:32
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Changing labels in form fields?

Ted:

It's a ready-made data base, which is part of the problem.

I can't figure out how or why Jaws can read the labels if they are
outside of the main data entry field.

But, that seems to be the case, which is why it is so difficult to
change the label names.

Tom Behler: KB8TYJ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:15 AM
Subject: RE: Changing labels in form fields?


Tom, is this a ready-made database, or do you roll your own? I
presume
it's the former. The only logging file I've ever used is one I
cooked up
some years ago in an old DBF-compatible database and ported over to
Access, and I don't use it as often as I should. I know they have
some
slick programs out there at little or no cost, so I'll be interested
in
following this thread through to resolution.

Ted (KD4EXK)

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 4:40 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Changing labels in form fields?

That could very well be.

I may have to ask the designer of the software.

Tom Behler

----- Original Message -----
From: "George B" <gbmagoo@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 3:06 PM
Subject: RE: Changing labels in form fields?


Well tom maybe the fields are locked and you can not change them

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Behler
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 11:28
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Changing labels in form fields?

Ann:

I tried that, but had no luck.

I found those instructions in the Jaws help files as well.

Tom Behler

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ann Byrne" <annakb@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: Changing labels in form fields?


In Surf's Up, the instruction is for labeling forms in Html
documents
such as web pages, so I don't know if that would work for your
program. It says to press insert+control+tab, type in the name
you
want, and press enter.

Good luck!
At 07:59 AM 2/3/2013, you wrote:
Hi, everyone.

I am working with an amateur radio logging software program, and
have what I think is a pretty simple question:

How can I change the spoken labels for form fields?

The labels spoken in the software as it is now configured are a
bit
cumbersome, and I want to customize them and make them shorter
and
easier to identify as I tab from one data entry field to the
next.

I have tried to find the answer in the Jaws help files, but have
yet
to come up with a clear solution.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan


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nero 11 with jaws 13 and 64 bit

John Fioravanti <fioresq1@...>
 

Has anyone succssfully used nero 11 with jaws 13 and windows 64 bit? Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 4:26 PM
Subject: RE: Can Narrator's voice be replaced in a 64-bit Windows 7 system?


not a problem, if its just for narrator I think your stuck with that voice
or at least other 64bit voices. I've managed to change the text to speech
property's in windows 7 64bit to set the default computer voice to the old
scansoft realspeak solo voices and it works for everything like the games I
run, voices on my ipod etc and uses the old Daniel voice but ironically the
only one it doesn't change is the narrator voice and always just reverts
back to the Anna voice, which although its not to bad if you have to use it
for a while it does get a little annoying after a while

regards


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: 06 February 2013 19:22
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Can Narrator's voice be replaced in a 64-bit Windows 7 system?

Strictly for Narrator, because I can't stand the default Anna. As Soronel
wrote, and as I read online, it seems the only voices you can use for
Narrator on a 64-bit Win7 system are the 64-bit variety.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Paul Lemm
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 1:34 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Can Narrator's voice be replaced in a 64-bit Windows 7 system?

Hi,

Do you mind me asking the reason for wanting to change the narrator voice?
is it actually for narrator or so that when using third party programs like
games etc it uses a different sappy voice,as I know the real speak voices
that used to be shipped with older versions of jaws (version 8 and earlier
I think) used to be able to be installed on my xp machine and these could be
used and I believe there is a way of getting them installed on a 64bit
machine if you still have the real speak CD


Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: 06 February 2013 12:53
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Can Narrator's voice be replaced in a 64-bit Windows 7 system?

After doing considerable googling, I am left with the impression that anyone
with a 64-bit Win7 system is stuck for Narrator with MS's assigned voice,
Anna, which I don't like.



Can anyone prove me wrong? Please!

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Re: Using Jaws 14

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

A drag. After a rather chaotic 2 months, I'm back with AVG, and accessibility is good.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Jones
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 3:37 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Using Jaws 14

Tren micro. Great program. Totally inaccessible.

Jimmy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 8:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Using Jaws 14

Which one was that?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Jones
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:45 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Using Jaws 14

I get a similar message about JAWS authorization but infrequently. I was told by someone from FS it had something to do with the anti-virus program I was running. I restarted my computer and the problem was resolved. But I never had the problem where it was asking for authorization all the time.
Still, you might want to check the anti-virus you're using.

Jimmy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 7:28 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Using Jaws 14

Claudia, Sounds like a job for Freedom Scientific to me.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: 06 February 2013 11:41
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Using Jaws 14

I tried running Jaws 14,Claudia, but I keep being prompted to authorize the software. When I do so, I'm told that activation has been successful.
However, it cycles through the process all over again.
What do I do now?
Thanks.

Claudia


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of PL
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:49 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Using Jaws 14

Hi,
Press JAWS-key+F4 to close your current JAWS session.
Press windows-key+R to open 'run dialog' and type jaws14 and press enter.
This should work for you.
When JAWS14 runs probably startup wizard is going to work if not you need to switch to JAWS window and open help menu where you can open this startup wizard and tune-up your JAWS there.
Hth,
PL

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 2:35 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Using Jaws 14

Hi,



Recently installed Jaws 14, on my Windows 7 64 bit laptop. I am currently using version 12.

How do I I select Jaw 14 to come up, from now on, instead of Jaw 12?

When I go to select 14, Jaws 12 still remains up and running.

Thanks.



Claudia



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Re: creating libraries in windows7 using jaws:

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Oh, Adrian, yeah, I got ya, I was just wondering what he meant by jealous
function but he clarified.
It was out of curiosity more than anything... And, I kind of figured it
could've been a typo and if it were related to a scrip of sort that would've
been like wow! Lol no harm done...


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@aol.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:56 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: creating libarries in windows7 using jaws:

Kimsan, in your other post just now, you talk about sarcasm. This is an
example of Dave Carlson's. Note how the original request was written.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 1:43 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: creating libarries in windows7 using jaws:

What do you mean jealous function?


Kimsan Song
kimsansong@aol.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 5:16 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: creating libarries in windows7 using jaws:

The same way you would without jobs. This is strictly a Windows function and
not a jealous function. Perhaps if you found a list for computer users, or
if you Google it, wouldn't you might find the answer.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 6, 2013, at 16:20, "Kenny" <p.wildcat1234@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi How do you create libarries in windows7 using jaws?

Kenny Peyatt

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Re: Using Jaws 14

Jimmy Jones
 

Tren micro. Great program. Totally inaccessible.

Jimmy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 8:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Using Jaws 14

Which one was that?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Jones
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:45 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Using Jaws 14

I get a similar message about JAWS authorization but infrequently. I was
told by someone from FS it had something to do with the anti-virus program I
was running. I restarted my computer and the problem was resolved. But I
never had the problem where it was asking for authorization all the time.
Still, you might want to check the anti-virus you're using.

Jimmy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 7:28 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Using Jaws 14

Claudia, Sounds like a job for Freedom Scientific to me.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: 06 February 2013 11:41
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Using Jaws 14

I tried running Jaws 14,Claudia, but I keep being prompted to authorize the
software. When I do so, I'm told that activation has been successful.
However, it cycles through the process all over again.
What do I do now?
Thanks.

Claudia


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of PL
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:49 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Using Jaws 14

Hi,
Press JAWS-key+F4 to close your current JAWS session.
Press windows-key+R to open 'run dialog' and type jaws14 and press enter.
This should work for you.
When JAWS14 runs probably startup wizard is going to work if not you need to
switch to JAWS window and open help menu where you can open this startup
wizard and tune-up your JAWS there.
Hth,
PL

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 2:35 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Using Jaws 14

Hi,



Recently installed Jaws 14, on my Windows 7 64 bit laptop. I am currently
using version 12.

How do I I select Jaw 14 to come up, from now on, instead of Jaw 12?

When I go to select 14, Jaws 12 still remains up and running.

Thanks.



Claudia



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