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Re: jaws friendly chat place instead of msn

Stephanie Switzer
 

I've heard skype is going to replace MSN messenger anyway. I don't
know if it's true, but it'd make since because Microsoft now owns
skype. :)

On 12/25/12, Doris and Chris <chipmunks@gmx.net> wrote:
I have used skype for text chat for years. if you
prefer, you can use Miranda IM with a skype plugin to do this.

There is also irc if you just want to text
chat.or aol, or icq, or any other of the many messengers out there.

hth

Doris


Hi.
As I understand it windows live messenger
will be closing in a couple of months.
Do you have a suggestion on another place to
chat with my friends and other people?
I've tried facebook, and then using skype with
my msn contacts, but this doesn't work so well.
SO, if there is another good place to chat that
I can bring my friends to that would be good.
/Kristoffer

--
Kristoffer Gustafsson
Salängsgatan 7a
504 56 Borås

tel:
033-126093
mobil: 073-8226473


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Re: IE10 Desktop Version, Windows 8, & Jaws

david Jennette
 

Just discovered one more thing. You can right click on the IE button on the
taskbar then go down to the send to submenu then select desktop and you'll
have a shortcut on the desktop if you want that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of david Jennette
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 6:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: IE10 Desktop Version, Windows 8, & Jaws

Ok, I saw that too but there's no need to go through all that. Just go to
the desktop and there should be a button for IE on the task bar. Just hit
inter on that. Also you can just hit windows r then enter the address of
the page you want to go too. Either way will bring up the desktop version
of IE.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 5:49 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: IE10 Desktop Version, Windows 8, & Jaws

Hi All,

I'm not sure if it was this list or the JFW Support List but, about a week
ago someone posted how to install / run the desktop version of IE10 with
Windows8 & Jaws 14. I thought I had saved it but, apparently not. Would
that person please repost the steps for doing this? It would be greatly
appreciated. Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

Take care.
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Re: IE10 Desktop Version, Windows 8, & Jaws

david Jennette
 

Ok, I saw that too but there's no need to go through all that. Just go to
the desktop and there should be a button for IE on the task bar. Just hit
inter on that. Also you can just hit windows r then enter the address of
the page you want to go too. Either way will bring up the desktop version
of IE.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 5:49 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: IE10 Desktop Version, Windows 8, & Jaws

Hi All,

I'm not sure if it was this list or the JFW Support List but, about a week
ago someone posted how to install / run the desktop version of IE10 with
Windows8 & Jaws 14. I thought I had saved it but, apparently not. Would
that person please repost the steps for doing this? It would be greatly
appreciated. Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

Take care.
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IE10 Desktop Version, Windows 8, & Jaws

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi All,

I'm not sure if it was this list or the JFW Support List but, about a week
ago someone posted how to install / run the desktop version of IE10 with
Windows8 & Jaws 14. I thought I had saved it but, apparently not. Would
that person please repost the steps for doing this? It would be greatly
appreciated. Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

Take care.
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Re: Echo Location as a Mobility Aid, World Access For The Blind?

Matt Dierckens <matt.dierckens@...>
 

Hi,
I just one question.
What, or how, does this have anything to do with JAWS?
Matt
Sent from my mac
Twitter: matt692

On 2012-12-27, at 5:56 PM, wogg le4 <woggle4@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all

I have read some material on this online and wondered if people could give me:

1. Information on this organization?
2. Have you done this training? Was it effective? If so, how?
Especially interested in the views of adults.
3. Practicalities, costs etc.

Sorry if this is off list but i really need info on this.

Thanks

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Echo Location as a Mobility Aid, World Access For The Blind?

wogg le4 <woggle4@...>
 

Hi all

I have read some material on this online and wondered if people could give me:

1. Information on this organization?
2. Have you done this training? Was it effective? If so, how?
Especially interested in the views of adults.
3. Practicalities, costs etc.

Sorry if this is off list but i really need info on this.

Thanks


JAWS 14.0.1037 and Office 2013 on Windows 8 Enterprise 64 bit

Patricia
 

Hello:

I was wondering if any users on this list are running the latest build
of JAWS and Office 2013 on Windows 8. If so, I have a number of
questions/potential issues that you may be able to answer, and/or may
be having yourselves.

Just joined the list, and look forward to contributing.

Patricia


Re: Safe Mode With Audio

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

If it's the one I grabbed years back, NVDA will work with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Holdstock
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 4:41 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Safe Mode With Audio

If your running windows 7 I have a registry key fix which will allow you to
have audio while in safe mode. I'm not sure how well jaws runs with it as I
assume the mirror display driver wont be available. Email me off list to
peterholdstock@msn.com and I'll send it to you if you wish.

Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos Medrano
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 4:50 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Safe Mode With Audio

The problem is that I can only load windows from the F8 boot menu. I have
enough vision to tell that jaws loads but no audio driver loads, so I have
no audio.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dondi computer
crash recovery victim
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 10:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Safe Mode With Audio

Hello,

Here's what I have for using JAWS in safe mode. The first thing you will
have to do is download the registry key from my drop box and then install it
and follow the following procedure. This worked like a dream with Windows 7
and JAWS 13.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/60716643/Activate%20Sound%20in%20SafeMode.reg

This is how you boot into safe mode after the registry keys are installed:
Press Windows+R to start the run dialog box.
Type msconfig in to the run dialog edit box and press enter.
When the configuration dialog box opens control+tab to the boot tab.
Tab down to boot options boot into safe mode and check this.
Tab down once and you will land on a radial button.
The options are minimal or network.
Choose Network if you want to boot into safe mode with network support.
Other wise choose minimal.
Tab down to OK and press space bar.
A dialog box will open saying Windows needs to restart tab to restart and
press space bar.
Your computer will restart and boot into safe mode which you will hear some
kind of jingle when windows starts. Wait for a minute or two as everything
loads slowly in safe mode so wait for your desktop to load.
Start JAWS.

When you are done in safe mode do the following other wise your computer
will just boot into safe mode over and over again.
Press Windows+R to start the run dialog box.
Type msconfig in to the run dialog edit box and press enter.
When the configuration dialog box opens control+tab to the boot tab.
Tab down to boot options boot into safe mode and uncheck this.
The default key is OK so just press enter.

Dondi
We are the music makers,
And we are the dreamers of dreams,

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kenny Peyatt
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Safe Mode With Audio

On 12/22/2012 9:52 PM, Carlos Medrano wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I'm trying to fix my frends PC. The problem is that the only way it
will work is in safe mode. Is there a way to load audio drivers in
safe
mode?



Carlos

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Brian Hartgen's guide for configuring JAWS with Outlook 10

Adrian Spratt
 

In his weekly newsletter, Dean Martineau has the following item. I've read
through the short guide and found it refreshinglyconcise and clear.

Brian Hartgen has created "A Guide for Configuring Outlook with JAWS":
http://www.hartgen.org/node/188

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Jaws 14 & Outlook question

David Greene <revdgreene@...>
 

HI list.

I just got a new laptop with windows 7, Jaws 14. In Outlook 2010 I am having
difficulty getting names to pop up when in the To field of an new email .



I have made sure that all appropriate check boxes are selected, I have
searched the help file and still no luck. Any suggestions would be
appreciated.



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Re: Safe Mode With Audio

Peter Holdstock <ptrholdstock@...>
 

If your running windows 7 I have a registry key fix which will allow you to have audio while in safe mode. I'm not sure how well jaws runs with it as I assume the mirror display driver wont be available. Email me off list to peterholdstock@msn.com and I'll send it to you if you wish.

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos Medrano
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 4:50 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Safe Mode With Audio

The problem is that I can only load windows from the F8 boot menu. I have
enough vision to tell that jaws loads but no audio driver loads, so I have
no audio.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dondi computer
crash recovery victim
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 10:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Safe Mode With Audio

Hello,

Here's what I have for using JAWS in safe mode. The first thing you will
have to do is download the registry key from my drop box and then install it
and follow the following procedure. This worked like a dream with Windows 7
and JAWS 13.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/60716643/Activate%20Sound%20in%20SafeMode.reg

This is how you boot into safe mode after the registry keys are installed:
Press Windows+R to start the run dialog box.
Type msconfig in to the run dialog edit box and press enter.
When the configuration dialog box opens control+tab to the boot tab.
Tab down to boot options boot into safe mode and check this.
Tab down once and you will land on a radial button.
The options are minimal or network.
Choose Network if you want to boot into safe mode with network support.
Other wise choose minimal.
Tab down to OK and press space bar.
A dialog box will open saying Windows needs to restart tab to restart and
press space bar.
Your computer will restart and boot into safe mode which you will hear some
kind of jingle when windows starts. Wait for a minute or two as everything
loads slowly in safe mode so wait for your desktop to load.
Start JAWS.

When you are done in safe mode do the following other wise your computer
will just boot into safe mode over and over again.
Press Windows+R to start the run dialog box.
Type msconfig in to the run dialog edit box and press enter.
When the configuration dialog box opens control+tab to the boot tab.
Tab down to boot options boot into safe mode and uncheck this.
The default key is OK so just press enter.

Dondi
We are the music makers,
And we are the dreamers of dreams,

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kenny Peyatt
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Safe Mode With Audio

On 12/22/2012 9:52 PM, Carlos Medrano wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I'm trying to fix my frends PC. The problem is that the only way it
will work is in safe mode. Is there a way to load audio drivers in
safe
mode?



Carlos

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Re: deleting from ITunes

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

David:
I tried that but on this bootcamp set-up there is no delete key.
I found that pressing CTRL plus d will delete items but using ITunes when
pressing CTRL d for delete doesn't work.
However, I did manage to delete all 2000 songs in my ITunes, but don't ask
me how I did it lol. I was just toying around with different methods and one
of them worked.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:40 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: deleting from ITunes

Kimsan,

After selecting all have you just tried pressing the delete key? That works
for me.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 19:40
Subject: deleting from ITunes


Hi,

Using Itunes latest version, how do I delete all of the music that is in
there?

I have selected all with CTRL A, went to the edit menu and delete is not an
option.

Thanks.



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Re: deleting from ITunes

Dave...
 

Kimsan,

After selecting all have you just tried pressing the delete key? That works
for me.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 19:40
Subject: deleting from ITunes


Hi,

Using Itunes latest version, how do I delete all of the music that is in
there?

I have selected all with CTRL A, went to the edit menu and delete is not an
option.

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deleting from ITunes

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Hi,

Using Itunes latest version, how do I delete all of the music that is in
there?

I have selected all with CTRL A, went to the edit menu and delete is not an
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Very disappointing response from Freedom Scientific on e-mail program accessibility

Tom Behler
 

Alicia:

Thanks for this very encouraging response.

Actually, I am running my personal g-mail account through Outlook 2007 on
this very computer, so your response confirms my experience at least so far.
The interface is not perfect, but does seem to work rather well.

My only concern is that I'm not exactly sure what the University's g-mail
client will look like, or how it will function, but your University Of
Central Missouri experience is very encouraging.

I'll keep it in mind for future reference.

Dr. Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Starner,
alicia M.
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 4:24 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Very disappointing response from Freedom Scientific on e-mail
program accessibility

Hello Tom,

I share my disappointment with you; however, I have used gmail with success
with JAWS. My school, The University of Central Missouri, uses gmail as
their email client for both students and staff. The basic interface works
fairly well, I was able to successfully and independently configure the
gmail account to download to my Outlook 2007 client USING THE DIRECTIONS
PROVIDED BY MY SCHOOL. you can feel free to contact the university and talk
to someone at the technical support help desk for further information
regarding the accessibility with JAWS if you wish. I didn't have much
problems after it was confiugred to download to my Oulook email client.

Alicia


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 1:56 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Very disappointing response from Freedom Scientific on e-mail
program accessibility

Hello, everyone.

This is Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan.

You may recall that last week, I posted a question about Jaws accessibility
with regard to three e-mail programs that my University is considering as a
replacement to Lotus Notes. The programs are g-mail, Merit, and MS365.

Below is my original post, followed by the response from Freedom Scientific.
Needless to say, I am very disappointed in this response. I am not
typically a complainer, but to me, this is yet another real indication that
Freedom Scientific simply is not keeping up with the current adaptive
technology needs of its clients.

Could this be why more and more people are switching to Window Eyes? Or
even better, could this be why more and more blind computer users are now
seriously considering Macs?

I can tell you one thing: I'm now less inclined than ever to renew my SMA
by the December 31st deadline, only to pay good money for a product that
seems to be increasingly inadequate.

If this e-mail seems too negative, I apologize, but I am really very
bothered by this response.

Again, please read on:

Hello.

My name is Dr. Thomas Behler, and my Jaws serial number is 41503.

At Ferris State University in Michigan, where I now serve as a Department
Head, I have volunteered to be on a committee to look at various e-mail
program options, to replace their current Lotus Notes e-mail program.

The three programs they are looking at are g-mail, Merit, and MS365.

Can you give me any ideas regarding the comparative accessibility of these
programs, especially when it comes to interfacing with Jaws?

I have asked for demos of the programs so that I can examine them myself,
but I'm not sure what the vendors will come through with yet.

Thanks very much!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



From: Freedom Scientific Technical Support
[mailto:support@freedomscientific.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 1:45 PM
To: tombehler@gmail.com
Subject: FW: Question on e-mail program accessibility



Dear Dr. Tom Behler

Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific technical Support.

We have no documentation pertaining to these applications as a stand alone
email client. The Gmail webmail works well with the JAWS(r) screen reading
software because they allow a basic HTML view that makes there site easily
accessed with the JAWS(r) screen reading software. In regards to the other
two options, we have no information available currently. I recommend
visiting the user groups list with the link below and see if someone here
may be able to provide you with some feed-back pertaining to this.

*User Groups
http://www.freedomscientific.com/support/user-groups.asp

Be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to this matter
when replying to this message so that we might better assist you.

Regards,
Mr. Tracey Jackson,
Technical Support Specialist
Freedom Scientific

Phone support: 727 803 8600, option #2
E-mail Support: support@freedomscientific.com
<mailto:support@freedomscientific.com>
Visit our website at:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/




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Re: Very disappointing response from Freedom Scientific on e-mail program accessibility

Starner, alicia M. <astarner@...>
 

Hello Tom,

I share my disappointment with you; however, I have used gmail with success
with JAWS. My school, The University of Central Missouri, uses gmail as
their email client for both students and staff. The basic interface works
fairly well, I was able to successfully and independently configure the
gmail account to download to my Outlook 2007 client USING THE DIRECTIONS
PROVIDED BY MY SCHOOL. you can feel free to contact the university and talk
to someone at the technical support help desk for further information
regarding the accessibility with JAWS if you wish. I didn't have much
problems after it was confiugred to download to my Oulook email client.

Alicia

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 1:56 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Very disappointing response from Freedom Scientific on e-mail
program accessibility

Hello, everyone.

This is Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan.

You may recall that last week, I posted a question about Jaws accessibility
with regard to three e-mail programs that my University is considering as a
replacement to Lotus Notes. The programs are g-mail, Merit, and MS365.

Below is my original post, followed by the response from Freedom Scientific.
Needless to say, I am very disappointed in this response. I am not
typically a complainer, but to me, this is yet another real indication that
Freedom Scientific simply is not keeping up with the current adaptive
technology needs of its clients.

Could this be why more and more people are switching to Window Eyes? Or
even better, could this be why more and more blind computer users are now
seriously considering Macs?

I can tell you one thing: I'm now less inclined than ever to renew my SMA
by the December 31st deadline, only to pay good money for a product that
seems to be increasingly inadequate.

If this e-mail seems too negative, I apologize, but I am really very
bothered by this response.

Again, please read on:

Hello.

My name is Dr. Thomas Behler, and my Jaws serial number is 41503.

At Ferris State University in Michigan, where I now serve as a Department
Head, I have volunteered to be on a committee to look at various e-mail
program options, to replace their current Lotus Notes e-mail program.

The three programs they are looking at are g-mail, Merit, and MS365.

Can you give me any ideas regarding the comparative accessibility of these
programs, especially when it comes to interfacing with Jaws?

I have asked for demos of the programs so that I can examine them myself,
but I'm not sure what the vendors will come through with yet.

Thanks very much!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



From: Freedom Scientific Technical Support
[mailto:support@freedomscientific.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 1:45 PM
To: tombehler@gmail.com
Subject: FW: Question on e-mail program accessibility



Dear Dr. Tom Behler

Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific technical Support.

We have no documentation pertaining to these applications as a stand alone
email client. The Gmail webmail works well with the JAWS(r) screen reading
software because they allow a basic HTML view that makes there site easily
accessed with the JAWS(r) screen reading software. In regards to the other
two options, we have no information available currently. I recommend
visiting the user groups list with the link below and see if someone here
may be able to provide you with some feed-back pertaining to this.

*User Groups
http://www.freedomscientific.com/support/user-groups.asp

Be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to this matter
when replying to this message so that we might better assist you.

Regards,
Mr. Tracey Jackson,
Technical Support Specialist
Freedom Scientific

Phone support: 727 803 8600, option #2
E-mail Support: support@freedomscientific.com
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Very disappointing response from Freedom Scientific on e-mail program accessibility

Tom Behler
 

Hello, everyone.

This is Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan.

You may recall that last week, I posted a question about Jaws accessibility
with regard to three e-mail programs that my University is considering as a
replacement to Lotus Notes. The programs are g-mail, Merit, and MS365.

Below is my original post, followed by the response from Freedom Scientific.
Needless to say, I am very disappointed in this response. I am not
typically a complainer, but to me, this is yet another real indication that
Freedom Scientific simply is not keeping up with the current adaptive
technology needs of its clients.

Could this be why more and more people are switching to Window Eyes? Or
even better, could this be why more and more blind computer users are now
seriously considering Macs?

I can tell you one thing: I'm now less inclined than ever to renew my SMA
by the December 31st deadline, only to pay good money for a product that
seems to be increasingly inadequate.

If this e-mail seems too negative, I apologize, but I am really very
bothered by this response.

Again, please read on:

Hello.

My name is Dr. Thomas Behler, and my Jaws serial number is 41503.

At Ferris State University in Michigan, where I now serve as a Department
Head, I have volunteered to be on a committee to look at various e-mail
program options, to replace their current Lotus Notes e-mail program.

The three programs they are looking at are g-mail, Merit, and MS365.

Can you give me any ideas regarding the comparative accessibility of these
programs, especially when it comes to interfacing with Jaws?

I have asked for demos of the programs so that I can examine them myself,
but I'm not sure what the vendors will come through with yet.

Thanks very much!

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan



From: Freedom Scientific Technical Support
[mailto:support@freedomscientific.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 1:45 PM
To: tombehler@gmail.com
Subject: FW: Question on e-mail program accessibility



Dear Dr. Tom Behler

Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific technical Support.

We have no documentation pertaining to these applications as a stand alone
email client. The Gmail webmail works well with the JAWS(r) screen reading
software because they allow a basic HTML view that makes there site easily
accessed with the JAWS(r) screen reading software. In regards to the other
two options, we have no information available currently. I recommend
visiting the user groups list with the link below and see if someone here
may be able to provide you with some feed-back pertaining to this.

*User Groups
http://www.freedomscientific.com/support/user-groups.asp

Be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to this matter
when replying to this message so that we might better assist you.

Regards,
Mr. Tracey Jackson,
Technical Support Specialist
Freedom Scientific

Phone support: 727 803 8600, option #2
E-mail Support: support@freedomscientific.com
<mailto:support@freedomscientific.com>
Visit our website at:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/


Re: New computer

Ariel
 

Hi,
I don't have Windows 8, so I could be wrong. I have read the Windows 8 accessibility menu, and it says that you can either press Windows key+U then tab twice to get to narrator. Here you can press space or enter to activate it. You can also press Windows key +enter. I hope this helps. Thanks,
A

On 12/26/2012 12:50 PM, thomas williams wrote:
I have windows 8

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 12:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: re: New computer

Hi,
Well, it'll depend on which OS you've got. For newer OS's, you could use
Narrator for initial sotup, then load your screen reader afterward.
Cheers,
Joseph

----- Original Message -----
From: "thomas williams" <twilliams16@triad.rr.com
To: <Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Date sent: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:41:14 -0500
Subject: New computer

Is there any way you can setup a new computer without sited help?


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Re: New computer

Ariel
 

Hi,
What operating system are you running on that computer? I think you can with Windows 7, but I'm not sure. As for windows 8, you can definitely set it up.

On 12/26/2012 11:41 AM, thomas williams wrote:
Is there any way you can setup a new computer without sited help?


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Re: New computer

thomas williams
 

I have windows 8

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 12:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: re: New computer

Hi,
Well, it'll depend on which OS you've got. For newer OS's, you could use
Narrator for initial sotup, then load your screen reader afterward.
Cheers,
Joseph

----- Original Message -----
From: "thomas williams" <twilliams16@triad.rr.com
To: <Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Date sent: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:41:14 -0500
Subject: New computer

Is there any way you can setup a new computer without sited help?


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