----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: good registry cleaner


Ariel, how thoughtful, and your instructions are simple and clear. Speaking
for myself, I prefer written over audio instructions, so you've done all I
could ask for.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ariel
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner

Hi Mike, Adrian and all,

I looked a Wise cleaner more carefully, and I have found it somewhat
accessible using Mike and Adrian's advice. I was originally using the Wise
Care 365, which includes more tools than Wise Cleaner; however, it is not
accessible at all. You can go ahead and download Wise Cleaner from CNET at:

http://download.cnet.com/Wise-Registry-Cleaner/3000-2086_4-10605508.html?par
t=dl-&subj=dl&tag=butto

Go ahead and run the program. Next you have to allow it to run the program.
Go ahead and allow it. At this point you will land on the "Set Up Window."
Find the "next button" or press "alt+N" to go to the next window. Now you
should be at the "agreement window." Read and agree to the terms and press
"Next." You can press next on the next window as well unless you want to
subscribe to the Wise Cleaner newsletter. Also press the next button to go
to the next window unless you want to change where Wise Cleaner is installed
by default. On the next window, you can choose to create or not create a
start menu entry. Whatever yourchoice, press next. On the next window you
can also choose to create a destop shortcut. Again, make your choice and
press next. Now you should be at the instalation window. Find the instal
button or press Alt+I. Next you should get a window that says, "Wise Disk
Cleaner is a user friendly, fast and easy to use application developed to
free up disk space by deleting junk files that are no longer used by any
software on your system. Both Wise Registry Cleaner and Wise Disk Cleaner
are designed to be used in tandem, allowing users to streamline their
Windows Registry and optimize their hard drive. We recommend to run Wise
Disk Cleaner before Wise Registry Cleaner." Go ahead and press next. On the
next window, you have the finish button, go ahead and press finish. It will
next take you to the Wise Cleaner website. Now you have to download and
installed Disk Cleaner as recommended in the message above. I'm not writing
the steps to installing it since it's similar to the steps above.
Alturnitively, you can download it from CNET at:

http://download.cnet.com/Wise-Disk-Cleaner/3000-2094_4-10613345.html?part=dl
-&subj=dl&tag=button

Now go ahead and open Wise Disk Cleaner. At this point, You should be at the
choose your language dialog box. Here you have to Rout JAWS to PC by
pressing JAWS key plus Dash on your numpad. Once you have done this, press
control+End key to get to the bottom . Now you want to make sure you're on
the ok button. Here you want to press "Slash from your numpad.
This will take you to the next window, which I believe is the newsletter
sign up window. I honestly didn't mess around with it since I don't want to
sign up. I doubt that you'll have success if you want to sign up. If you're
on this window, I would just press "Alt+f4. Thereby, you'll land on the
"Wise Disk Cleaner" interface.

Now it's time to run Wise Disk Cleaner, so rout JAWS to PC. Using your down
arrow key, find the "Start Scan" button, and press the "Slash" key to
activate it. Once the scan is done, it will give you the results. You should
find the Start Cleaning button, and press "Slash" to clean it.
Next it will say, "Cleanup was completed. Close it up.

Now it's time to run Wise Registry Cleaner. Go ahead and open it up. The
first thing you will see after the allow notification is going to be the
"Choose your Language dialog Box." Follow the same stepps above used with
Wise Disk Cleaner. It's the same deal with this program. You also get the
newsletter window after pressing the ok button in the choose your language
dialog box. Presss Control+F4 and launge Wise Registry cleaner again. Rout
JAWS to PC, and find the "Start Scan" button. Press "Slash, and wait until
it's done. Once it's finished, it will give you the results. If it finds
issues, press the "Start Cleaning" button. I hope you guys find this
helpful. It might not be good at all, but I have done my best. If I had a
good recording device, I would've done an audio file, but I don't. Either
way, I hope this works. Thanks,

A


On 12/19/2012 11:29 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Ariel,

I am already using CCleaner in conjunction with Auslogics & they work well
for me. I had never heard of Wise Clener & liked what you had to say
about it & would have been interested in trying it out if it were more
accessible. Have you tried contacting the creators of Wise Cleaner &
telling them about the lack of accessibility their program presents
for the visually impaired? I have been bitching to the Puriform /
CCleaner people for about 3 years now but, I don't think they've been
listening! LOL, hahaha hahaha hahaha, LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ariel
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner


Hi Mike,
I have done what you suggested, and unfortunately neither one worked.
I wish it did cause it's a very good registry cleaner. However, Using
Free Registry Cleaner is pretty good. Here's the link to it:
http://www.eusing.com/free_registry_cleaner/registry_cleaner.htm
On 12/19/2012 8:40 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Ariel,

When you are on a button or a checkbox try doing a single left mouse
click using the numpad slash key & see if that works. You can also
try opening the menues with the alt key while in the program to see
if that brings up any options. This program sounds interesting & I'm
curious to see just how accessible it is. Please keep the list
informed on your navigation progress. Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ariel
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner


Hi Mike,
As of now, I'm using the Wise Care 365, which includes the registry
cleaner and drive wiper. I didn't try accessing the menus by routing
the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, but now that you brought it up, it
does seem to be reading it. I'm not sure if you can actually activate
the check for issues button or whatever it's called, but it might be
worth trying. If you have some tips of how to go about it, shoot them
my way, I'll be more than glad to try it out. You can write me off
list at accessibleknowledge@gmail.com On 12/19/2012 4:52 PM, Mike B.
wrote:

Hi Ariel,

Is Wise Cleaner totally inaccessible with Jaws or can the menues be
navigated using the Jaws cursor or routing the Jaws cursor to the PC
cursor, pressing the page-up key & arrowing down 1 line at a time.
Just curious, thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ariel
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner


Hi Tom,
Much respect to you. You could very well be correct and I could be
wrong. I have always looked at the Registry as the part that keeps
your computer running, and tells your computer what to do when
certain events occur. I appreciate your reply.Mechanic is definitely
great. I used to have it, but I no longer do. Thanks, A On
12/18/2012 11:07 PM, Tom Lange wrote:

Hi,
Actually, the registry isn't a program that runs and executes
instructions. Think of it more as something like a convoluted
database that stores an inventory of your existing hardware and
software and related settings. In the early days of Windows there
was a registry, but a lot of this information was stored in
initialization files which were essentially straight text files
with a .ini extension. These files would be scattered all over the
place, and if, through a program error or just plain user error
these files got destroyed or relocated, all sorts of weird things
could happen. So as time went by, the registry grew both in size
and complexity. It's nothing to trifle with, and it's always a good
idea to back it up first before using any kind of cleaner program
or, heaven forbid, using the registry editor to do any tweaking.


Another good registry cleaner that I've heard highly recommended is
Registry Mechanic. It's not freeware and I don't have a link to
it, but I'm sure a Google search will turn up something about it.

Tom


----- Original Message ----- From: "Ariel"
<accessibleknowledge@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner

Hi everyone,
I'm just going to throw this out there. It's often not the fault
of a program. Sometimes it's better to live certain parts of the
computer if you do not know much about it specially your registry.
Your registry is what keeps your computer running. The registry is
what executes orders for your computer when certain events occur.
There are various things which could eventually slow down your
PC's performance. As some of you know, if you use your computer a
lot, a lot of unnecessary and unwanted information gets written to
your registry. Furthermore, updating, uninstalling, or installing
software on your computer will affect your computers performance over

time.

Registry cleaners can of course help sort some of these issues,
but you should always be aware of what you are doing. If you don't
have experiences with the registry, leave it alone, or ask some
one who has experience. The registry is dangerous if you don't
know what you are doing. One mistake can cause your PC to stop
working. I have seen various cases in which they didn't know what
they were doing, so I had to reinstall Windows all over again. The
point that I'm trying to make is that if you don't know much about
the registry, please leave it alone. Always keep in mind that
registry cleaners are less than perfect. There's always a chance
that registry cleaners may remove needed data during the cleaning
process. Leaving it alone will prevent you from unwanted
headaches. However, if you really want to do it, than by all means
do, but always do a registry backup, or Google it if you don't
know what it is. Note that I'm not throwing it to bother anyone.
For those interested in a good registry cleaner, check out the
link below. It's an awesome one, but be sure to ask someone if you
lack the knowledge, backup registry, or Google it before any
actions. Thanks, A

http://www.wisecleaner.com/download.html
On 12/17/2012 7:05 PM, Robert Logue wrote:

Agree that CCleaner is potentially dangerous. However, You can
exclude files programs and folders as well as some items in the
registry. I wish FS would publish info about anything that should
not be touched by a registry cleaner.

one thing I don't like about CCleaner is that it does not give
enough information about the registry items it finds. I didn't
find that part of the program to helpful. It's good at cleaning
unwanted files but I leave the registry alone now.

Also, Despite all advice from blind users, I am unable to select
items in the registry to remove with the space bar and have to
use the mouse cursor instead.

Someone mentioned another program called Abexo. Interesting that
download.com does not have it. I wanted to see how popular it is
and what sort of reviews people have about Abexo. I found lots
through a web search but don't know the sources enough to trust them.

I just tried a couple programs that supposed to clean and
optimize but they were not accessible without scripting.
One was System Checkup 3.3 iolo technologies, LLC 12/5/2012 The
other was SlimCleaner Free


Bob

On 12/16/2012 12:35 PM, Aidan Maher wrote:

I also would like to no, since most of them seem to mess things
up rather than cleaning the necessary files. And also a drive
wiper? But just not CCleaner. That really is not good for jaws
users, maybe accessible, but it remove things you need and
sometimes can affect jaws also.

On 16/12/2012, cecropia64@att.net <cecropia64@att.net> wrote:

HI FOLKS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY GOOD SUGGESTIONS FOR AN
ACCESIBLE REGISTRY CLEANER THAT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE FREE OR AT
LEAST HAS A TRIAL VERSION. THANKS

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ariel
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner

Hi Mike, Adrian and all,

I looked a Wise cleaner more carefully, and I have found it somewhat accessible using Mike and Adrian's advice. I was originally using the Wise Care 365, which includes more tools than Wise Cleaner; however, it is not accessible at all. You can go ahead and download Wise Cleaner from CNET at:

http://download.cnet.com/Wise-Registry-Cleaner/3000-2086_4-10605508.html?part=dl-&subj=dl&tag=butto

Go ahead and run the program. Next you have to allow it to run the program. Go ahead and allow it. At this point you will land on the "Set Up Window." Find the "next button" or press "alt+N" to go to the next window. Now you should be at the "agreement window." Read and agree to the terms and press "Next." You can press next on the next window as well unless you want to subscribe to the Wise Cleaner newsletter. Also press the next button to go to the next window unless you want to change where Wise Cleaner is installed by default. On the next window, you can choose to create or not create a start menu entry. Whatever yourchoice, press next. On the next window you can also choose to create a destop shortcut. Again, make your choice and press next. Now you should be at the instalation window. Find the instal button or press Alt+I. Next you should get a window that says, "Wise Disk Cleaner is a user friendly, fast and easy to use application developed to free up disk space by deleting junk files that are no longer used by any software on your system. Both Wise Registry Cleaner and Wise Disk Cleaner are designed to be used in tandem, allowing users to streamline their Windows Registry and optimize their hard drive. We recommend to run Wise Disk Cleaner before Wise Registry Cleaner." Go ahead and press next. On the next window, you have the finish button, go ahead and press finish. It will next take you to the Wise Cleaner website. Now you have to download and installed Disk Cleaner as recommended in the message above. I'm not writing the steps to installing it since it's similar to the steps above. Alturnitively, you can download it from CNET at:

http://download.cnet.com/Wise-Disk-Cleaner/3000-2094_4-10613345.html?part=dl-&subj=dl&tag=button

Now go ahead and open Wise Disk Cleaner. At this point, You should be at the choose your language dialog box. Here you have to Rout JAWS to PC by pressing JAWS key plus Dash on your numpad. Once you have done this, press control+End key to get to the bottom . Now you want to make sure you're on the ok button. Here you want to press "Slash from your numpad.
This will take you to the next window, which I believe is the newsletter sign up window. I honestly didn't mess around with it since I don't want to sign up. I doubt that you'll have success if you want to sign up. If you're on this window, I would just press "Alt+f4. Thereby, you'll land on the "Wise Disk Cleaner" interface.

Now it's time to run Wise Disk Cleaner, so rout JAWS to PC. Using your down arrow key, find the "Start Scan" button, and press the "Slash" key to activate it. Once the scan is done, it will give you the results. You should find the Start Cleaning button, and press "Slash" to clean it.
Next it will say, "Cleanup was completed. Close it up.

Now it's time to run Wise Registry Cleaner. Go ahead and open it up. The first thing you will see after the allow notification is going to be the "Choose your Language dialog Box." Follow the same stepps above used with Wise Disk Cleaner. It's the same deal with this program. You also get the newsletter window after pressing the ok button in the choose your language dialog box. Presss Control+F4 and launge Wise Registry cleaner again. Rout JAWS to PC, and find the "Start Scan" button. Press "Slash, and wait until it's done. Once it's finished, it will give you the results. If it finds issues, press the "Start Cleaning" button. I hope you guys find this helpful. It might not be good at all, but I have done my best. If I had a good recording device, I would've done an audio file, but I don't. Either way, I hope this works. Thanks,

A


On 12/19/2012 11:29 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Ariel,

I am already using CCleaner in conjunction with Auslogics & they work well
for me. I had never heard of Wise Clener & liked what you had to say
about it & would have been interested in trying it out if it were more
accessible. Have you tried contacting the creators of Wise Cleaner &
telling them about the lack of accessibility their program presents
for the visually impaired? I have been bitching to the Puriform /
CCleaner people for about 3 years now but, I don't think they've been
listening! LOL, hahaha hahaha hahaha, LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ariel
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner


Hi Mike,
I have done what you suggested, and unfortunately neither one worked.
I wish it did cause it's a very good registry cleaner. However, Using
Free Registry Cleaner is pretty good. Here's the link to it:
http://www.eusing.com/free_registry_cleaner/registry_cleaner.htm
On 12/19/2012 8:40 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Ariel,

When you are on a button or a checkbox try doing a single left mouse
click using the numpad slash key & see if that works. You can also
try opening the menues with the alt key while in the program to see
if that brings up any options. This program sounds interesting & I'm
curious to see just how accessible it is. Please keep the list
informed on your navigation progress. Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ariel
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner


Hi Mike,
As of now, I'm using the Wise Care 365, which includes the registry
cleaner and drive wiper. I didn't try accessing the menus by routing
the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, but now that you brought it up, it
does seem to be reading it. I'm not sure if you can actually activate
the check for issues button or whatever it's called, but it might be
worth trying. If you have some tips of how to go about it, shoot them
my way, I'll be more than glad to try it out. You can write me off
list at accessibleknowledge@gmail.com On 12/19/2012 4:52 PM, Mike B.
wrote:

Hi Ariel,

Is Wise Cleaner totally inaccessible with Jaws or can the menues be
navigated using the Jaws cursor or routing the Jaws cursor to the PC
cursor, pressing the page-up key & arrowing down 1 line at a time.
Just curious, thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ariel
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner


Hi Tom,
Much respect to you. You could very well be correct and I could be
wrong. I have always looked at the Registry as the part that keeps
your computer running, and tells your computer what to do when
certain events occur. I appreciate your reply.Mechanic is definitely
great. I used to have it, but I no longer do. Thanks, A On
12/18/2012 11:07 PM, Tom Lange wrote:

Hi,
Actually, the registry isn't a program that runs and executes
instructions. Think of it more as something like a convoluted
database that stores an inventory of your existing hardware and
software and related settings. In the early days of Windows there
was a registry, but a lot of this information was stored in
initialization files which were essentially straight text files
with a .ini extension. These files would be scattered all over the
place, and if, through a program error or just plain user error
these files got destroyed or relocated, all sorts of weird things
could happen. So as time went by, the registry grew both in size
and complexity. It's nothing to trifle with, and it's always a good
idea to back it up first before using any kind of cleaner program
or, heaven forbid, using the registry editor to do any tweaking.


Another good registry cleaner that I've heard highly recommended is
Registry Mechanic. It's not freeware and I don't have a link to
it, but I'm sure a Google search will turn up something about it.

Tom


----- Original Message ----- From: "Ariel"
<accessibleknowledge@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner

Hi everyone,
I'm just going to throw this out there. It's often not the fault
of a program. Sometimes it's better to live certain parts of the
computer if you do not know much about it specially your registry.
Your registry is what keeps your computer running. The registry is
what executes orders for your computer when certain events occur.
There are various things which could eventually slow down your
PC's performance. As some of you know, if you use your computer a
lot, a lot of unnecessary and unwanted information gets written to
your registry. Furthermore, updating, uninstalling, or installing
software on your computer will affect your computers performance over time.
Registry cleaners can of course help sort some of these issues,
but you should always be aware of what you are doing. If you don't
have experiences with the registry, leave it alone, or ask some
one who has experience. The registry is dangerous if you don't
know what you are doing. One mistake can cause your PC to stop
working. I have seen various cases in which they didn't know what
they were doing, so I had to reinstall Windows all over again. The
point that I'm trying to make is that if you don't know much about
the registry, please leave it alone. Always keep in mind that
registry cleaners are less than perfect. There's always a chance
that registry cleaners may remove needed data during the cleaning
process. Leaving it alone will prevent you from unwanted
headaches. However, if you really want to do it, than by all means
do, but always do a registry backup, or Google it if you don't
know what it is. Note that I'm not throwing it to bother anyone.
For those interested in a good registry cleaner, check out the
link below. It's an awesome one, but be sure to ask someone if you
lack the knowledge, backup registry, or Google it before any
actions. Thanks, A

http://www.wisecleaner.com/download.html
On 12/17/2012 7:05 PM, Robert Logue wrote:

Agree that CCleaner is potentially dangerous. However, You can
exclude files programs and folders as well as some items in the
registry. I wish FS would publish info about anything that should
not be touched by a registry cleaner.

one thing I don't like about CCleaner is that it does not give
enough information about the registry items it finds. I didn't
find that part of the program to helpful. It's good at cleaning
unwanted files but I leave the registry alone now.

Also, Despite all advice from blind users, I am unable to select
items in the registry to remove with the space bar and have to
use the mouse cursor instead.

Someone mentioned another program called Abexo. Interesting that
download.com does not have it. I wanted to see how popular it is
and what sort of reviews people have about Abexo. I found lots
through a web search but don't know the sources enough to trust them.

I just tried a couple programs that supposed to clean and
optimize but they were not accessible without scripting.
One was System Checkup 3.3 iolo technologies, LLC 12/5/2012 The
other was SlimCleaner Free


Bob

On 12/16/2012 12:35 PM, Aidan Maher wrote:

I also would like to no, since most of them seem to mess things
up rather than cleaning the necessary files. And also a drive
wiper? But just not CCleaner. That really is not good for jaws
users, maybe accessible, but it remove things you need and
sometimes can affect jaws also.

On 16/12/2012, cecropia64@att.net <cecropia64@att.net> wrote:

HI FOLKS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY GOOD SUGGESTIONS FOR AN
ACCESIBLE REGISTRY CLEANER THAT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE FREE OR AT
LEAST HAS A TRIAL VERSION. THANKS

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: buttons on touch pad using dell lattitude

Kimsan,

Strange. That key combination is supposed to be hardware-dependent and not
affected by any operating system. you sure that it used to work on your
Latitude? What model do you have?

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 09:57
Subject: RE: buttons on touch pad using dell lattitude


Dave,
I mistyped the keystroke.
FN F5 used to work but again, after upgrading to win 8 back in October, that
keystroke was no longer working.
Need to figure out a quick way to enable and disable this stuff because my
students use this dell machine at times.
Back to google!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: buttons on touch pad using dell lattitude

Kimsan,

On my Latitude I use the Fn key Plus F5 to route through the
disabling/enabling choices for the touchpad and touchstick. I do not know if
the buttons can be individually enabled without the touchpad.

In my case, I turn off all the touch-enabled devices, as they drive me
crazy.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
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To: "jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 09:18
Subject: buttons on touch pad using dell lattitude


Hi,

Can someone who uses a dell latitude try and provide insturctions on how to
disable the buttons that are underneath the touchpad.

I type mouse in the control panel then forget where to go from there lol.

I also went into device manager and looked under mouse and other pointing
devices to see if I can disable it that way but there is only an uninstall
option.

The keystroke use to be alt F5 but ever since upgrading to windows eight
that is no longer working.

Thanks

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----- Original Message -----
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To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:19:57 -0700 (MST)
Subject: RE: Problem reading capital letters using Vocaliser Samantha voice

That crash problem sounds intriguing. Eloquence is going to load whether or not you use it. Does FS have any ideas on the subject?

Ted

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:07 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Problem reading capital letters using Vocaliser Samantha voice

Hi,

I have the latest version of jaws v14 and am now using the Vocaliser US Samantha High Premium voice.

Eloquence had started crashing my Windows 7 64 bit computer far too often after the latest JFW14 upgrade so I have switched to Vocaliser and no crashes anymore.

However Jaws is no longer indicating capital letters either when typing (I have read by character on for typing) or when reading text even character by character. There is no change in pitch and it doesn't say cap like it did when using eloquence.

I have made no changes except swapping over to Vocaliser voice.

Any idea what could be going wrong? Are others having a similar problem at all? Any suggestions on how to fix this?

Thanks,
Dale.



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-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: buttons on touch pad using dell lattitude

You should contact dell support and ask them. They build the thing, they
must provide it, or if you got any documentation with it, check there, but
these days they don't really give alot of documents with, not even a windows
disk.

On 20/12/2012, Kimsan <kimsansong@aol.com> wrote:

Dave,
I mistyped the keystroke.
FN F5 used to work but again, after upgrading to win 8 back in
October, that keystroke was no longer working.
Need to figure out a quick way to enable and disable this stuff
because my students use this dell machine at times.
Back to google!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: buttons on touch pad using dell lattitude

Kimsan,

On my Latitude I use the Fn key Plus F5 to route through the
disabling/enabling choices for the touchpad and touchstick. I do not
know if the buttons can be individually enabled without the touchpad.

In my case, I turn off all the touch-enabled devices, as they drive
me crazy.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
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To: "jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 09:18
Subject: buttons on touch pad using dell lattitude


Hi,

Can someone who uses a dell latitude try and provide insturctions on
how to disable the buttons that are underneath the touchpad.

I type mouse in the control panel then forget where to go from there lol.

I also went into device manager and looked under mouse and other
pointing devices to see if I can disable it that way but there is only
an uninstall option.

The keystroke use to be alt F5 but ever since upgrading to windows
eight that is no longer working.

Thanks

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ariel
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:58 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner

Hi Mike, Adrian and all,

I looked a Wise cleaner more carefully, and I have found it somewhat
accessible using Mike and Adrian's advice. I was originally using the Wise
Care 365, which includes more tools than Wise Cleaner; however, it is not
accessible at all. You can go ahead and download Wise Cleaner from CNET at:

http://download.cnet.com/Wise-Registry-Cleaner/3000-2086_4-10605508.html?par
t=dl-&subj=dl&tag=butto

Go ahead and run the program. Next you have to allow it to run the program.
Go ahead and allow it. At this point you will land on the "Set Up Window."
Find the "next button" or press "alt+N" to go to the next window. Now you
should be at the "agreement window." Read and agree to the terms and press
"Next." You can press next on the next window as well unless you want to
subscribe to the Wise Cleaner newsletter. Also press the next button to go
to the next window unless you want to change where Wise Cleaner is installed
by default. On the next window, you can choose to create or not create a
start menu entry. Whatever yourchoice, press next. On the next window you
can also choose to create a destop shortcut. Again, make your choice and
press next. Now you should be at the instalation window. Find the instal
button or press Alt+I. Next you should get a window that says, "Wise Disk
Cleaner is a user friendly, fast and easy to use application developed to
free up disk space by deleting junk files that are no longer used by any
software on your system. Both Wise Registry Cleaner and Wise Disk Cleaner
are designed to be used in tandem, allowing users to streamline their
Windows Registry and optimize their hard drive. We recommend to run Wise
Disk Cleaner before Wise Registry Cleaner." Go ahead and press next. On the
next window, you have the finish button, go ahead and press finish. It will
next take you to the Wise Cleaner website. Now you have to download and
installed Disk Cleaner as recommended in the message above. I'm not writing
the steps to installing it since it's similar to the steps above.
Alturnitively, you can download it from CNET at:

http://download.cnet.com/Wise-Disk-Cleaner/3000-2094_4-10613345.html?part=dl
-&subj=dl&tag=button

Now go ahead and open Wise Disk Cleaner. At this point, You should be at the
choose your language dialog box. Here you have to Rout JAWS to PC by
pressing JAWS key plus Dash on your numpad. Once you have done this, press
control+End key to get to the bottom . Now you want to make sure you're on
the ok button. Here you want to press "Slash from your numpad.
This will take you to the next window, which I believe is the newsletter
sign up window. I honestly didn't mess around with it since I don't want to
sign up. I doubt that you'll have success if you want to sign up. If you're
on this window, I would just press "Alt+f4. Thereby, you'll land on the
"Wise Disk Cleaner" interface.

Now it's time to run Wise Disk Cleaner, so rout JAWS to PC. Using your down
arrow key, find the "Start Scan" button, and press the "Slash" key to
activate it. Once the scan is done, it will give you the results. You should
find the Start Cleaning button, and press "Slash" to clean it.
Next it will say, "Cleanup was completed. Close it up.

Now it's time to run Wise Registry Cleaner. Go ahead and open it up. The
first thing you will see after the allow notification is going to be the
"Choose your Language dialog Box." Follow the same stepps above used with
Wise Disk Cleaner. It's the same deal with this program. You also get the
newsletter window after pressing the ok button in the choose your language
dialog box. Presss Control+F4 and launge Wise Registry cleaner again. Rout
JAWS to PC, and find the "Start Scan" button. Press "Slash, and wait until
it's done. Once it's finished, it will give you the results. If it finds
issues, press the "Start Cleaning" button. I hope you guys find this
helpful. It might not be good at all, but I have done my best. If I had a
good recording device, I would've done an audio file, but I don't. Either
way, I hope this works. Thanks,

A


On 12/19/2012 11:29 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Ariel,

I am already using CCleaner in conjunction with Auslogics & they work well
for me. I had never heard of Wise Clener & liked what you had to say
about it & would have been interested in trying it out if it were more
accessible. Have you tried contacting the creators of Wise Cleaner &
telling them about the lack of accessibility their program presents
for the visually impaired? I have been bitching to the Puriform /
CCleaner people for about 3 years now but, I don't think they've been
listening! LOL, hahaha hahaha hahaha, LOL Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ariel
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner


Hi Mike,
I have done what you suggested, and unfortunately neither one worked.
I wish it did cause it's a very good registry cleaner. However, Using
Free Registry Cleaner is pretty good. Here's the link to it:
http://www.eusing.com/free_registry_cleaner/registry_cleaner.htm
On 12/19/2012 8:40 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Ariel,

When you are on a button or a checkbox try doing a single left mouse
click using the numpad slash key & see if that works. You can also
try opening the menues with the alt key while in the program to see
if that brings up any options. This program sounds interesting & I'm
curious to see just how accessible it is. Please keep the list
informed on your navigation progress. Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ariel
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner


Hi Mike,
As of now, I'm using the Wise Care 365, which includes the registry
cleaner and drive wiper. I didn't try accessing the menus by routing
the JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, but now that you brought it up, it
does seem to be reading it. I'm not sure if you can actually activate
the check for issues button or whatever it's called, but it might be
worth trying. If you have some tips of how to go about it, shoot them
my way, I'll be more than glad to try it out. You can write me off
list at accessibleknowledge@gmail.com On 12/19/2012 4:52 PM, Mike B.
wrote:

Hi Ariel,

Is Wise Cleaner totally inaccessible with Jaws or can the menues be
navigated using the Jaws cursor or routing the Jaws cursor to the PC
cursor, pressing the page-up key & arrowing down 1 line at a time.
Just curious, thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ariel
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner


Hi Tom,
Much respect to you. You could very well be correct and I could be
wrong. I have always looked at the Registry as the part that keeps
your computer running, and tells your computer what to do when
certain events occur. I appreciate your reply.Mechanic is definitely
great. I used to have it, but I no longer do. Thanks, A On
12/18/2012 11:07 PM, Tom Lange wrote:

Hi,
Actually, the registry isn't a program that runs and executes
instructions. Think of it more as something like a convoluted
database that stores an inventory of your existing hardware and
software and related settings. In the early days of Windows there
was a registry, but a lot of this information was stored in
initialization files which were essentially straight text files
with a .ini extension. These files would be scattered all over the
place, and if, through a program error or just plain user error
these files got destroyed or relocated, all sorts of weird things
could happen. So as time went by, the registry grew both in size
and complexity. It's nothing to trifle with, and it's always a good
idea to back it up first before using any kind of cleaner program
or, heaven forbid, using the registry editor to do any tweaking.


Another good registry cleaner that I've heard highly recommended is
Registry Mechanic. It's not freeware and I don't have a link to
it, but I'm sure a Google search will turn up something about it.

Tom


----- Original Message ----- From: "Ariel"
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner

Hi everyone,
I'm just going to throw this out there. It's often not the fault
of a program. Sometimes it's better to live certain parts of the
computer if you do not know much about it specially your registry.
Your registry is what keeps your computer running. The registry is
what executes orders for your computer when certain events occur.
There are various things which could eventually slow down your
PC's performance. As some of you know, if you use your computer a
lot, a lot of unnecessary and unwanted information gets written to
your registry. Furthermore, updating, uninstalling, or installing
software on your computer will affect your computers performance over

time.

Registry cleaners can of course help sort some of these issues,
but you should always be aware of what you are doing. If you don't
have experiences with the registry, leave it alone, or ask some
one who has experience. The registry is dangerous if you don't
know what you are doing. One mistake can cause your PC to stop
working. I have seen various cases in which they didn't know what
they were doing, so I had to reinstall Windows all over again. The
point that I'm trying to make is that if you don't know much about
the registry, please leave it alone. Always keep in mind that
registry cleaners are less than perfect. There's always a chance
that registry cleaners may remove needed data during the cleaning
process. Leaving it alone will prevent you from unwanted
headaches. However, if you really want to do it, than by all means
do, but always do a registry backup, or Google it if you don't
know what it is. Note that I'm not throwing it to bother anyone.
For those interested in a good registry cleaner, check out the
link below. It's an awesome one, but be sure to ask someone if you
lack the knowledge, backup registry, or Google it before any
actions. Thanks, A

http://www.wisecleaner.com/download.html
On 12/17/2012 7:05 PM, Robert Logue wrote:

Agree that CCleaner is potentially dangerous. However, You can
exclude files programs and folders as well as some items in the
registry. I wish FS would publish info about anything that should
not be touched by a registry cleaner.

one thing I don't like about CCleaner is that it does not give
enough information about the registry items it finds. I didn't
find that part of the program to helpful. It's good at cleaning
unwanted files but I leave the registry alone now.

Also, Despite all advice from blind users, I am unable to select
items in the registry to remove with the space bar and have to
use the mouse cursor instead.

Someone mentioned another program called Abexo. Interesting that
download.com does not have it. I wanted to see how popular it is
and what sort of reviews people have about Abexo. I found lots
through a web search but don't know the sources enough to trust them.

I just tried a couple programs that supposed to clean and
optimize but they were not accessible without scripting.
One was System Checkup 3.3 iolo technologies, LLC 12/5/2012 The
other was SlimCleaner Free


Bob

On 12/16/2012 12:35 PM, Aidan Maher wrote:

I also would like to no, since most of them seem to mess things
up rather than cleaning the necessary files. And also a drive
wiper? But just not CCleaner. That really is not good for jaws
users, maybe accessible, but it remove things you need and
sometimes can affect jaws also.

On 16/12/2012, cecropia64@att.net <cecropia64@att.net> wrote:

HI FOLKS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY GOOD SUGGESTIONS FOR AN
ACCESIBLE REGISTRY CLEANER THAT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE FREE OR AT
LEAST HAS A TRIAL VERSION. THANKS

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On 12/19/2012 11:29 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Ariel,

I am already using CCleaner in conjunction with Auslogics & they work well
for me. I had never heard of Wise Clener & liked what you had to say
about it & would have been interested in trying it out if it were more
accessible. Have you tried contacting the creators of Wise Cleaner &
telling them about the lack of accessibility their program presents for the
visually impaired? I have been bitching to the Puriform / CCleaner people
for about 3 years now but, I don't think they've been listening! LOL,
hahaha hahaha hahaha, LOL
Take care.
Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ariel
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner


Hi Mike,
I have done what you suggested, and unfortunately neither one worked. I
wish it did cause it's a very good registry cleaner. However, Using Free
Registry Cleaner is pretty good. Here's the link to it:
http://www.eusing.com/free_registry_cleaner/registry_cleaner.htm
On 12/19/2012 8:40 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Ariel,

When you are on a button or a checkbox try doing a single left mouse click
using the numpad slash key & see if that works. You can also try opening
the menues with the alt key while in the program to see if that brings up
any options. This program sounds interesting & I'm curious to see just
how
accessible it is. Please keep the list informed on your navigation
progress. Thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ariel
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner


Hi Mike,
As of now, I'm using the Wise Care 365, which includes the registry
cleaner and drive wiper. I didn't try accessing the menus by routing the
JAWS cursor to the PC cursor, but now that you brought it up, it does
seem to be reading it. I'm not sure if you can actually activate the
check for issues button or whatever it's called, but it might be worth
trying. If you have some tips of how to go about it, shoot them my way,
I'll be more than glad to try it out. You can write me off list at
accessibleknowledge@gmail.com
On 12/19/2012 4:52 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Ariel,

Is Wise Cleaner totally inaccessible with Jaws or can the menues be
navigated using the Jaws cursor or routing the Jaws cursor to the PC
cursor,
pressing the page-up key & arrowing down 1 line at a time. Just curious,
thank you very much.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Ariel
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner


Hi Tom,
Much respect to you. You could very well be correct and I could be
wrong. I have always looked at the Registry as the part that keeps your
computer running, and tells your computer what to do when certain events
occur. I appreciate your reply.Mechanic is definitely great. I used to
have it, but I no longer do. Thanks,
A
On 12/18/2012 11:07 PM, Tom Lange wrote:

Hi,
Actually, the registry isn't a program that runs and executes
instructions. Think of it more as something like a convoluted database
that stores an inventory of your existing hardware and software and
related settings. In the early days of Windows there was a registry,
but a lot of this information was stored in initialization files which
were essentially straight text files with a .ini extension. These
files would be scattered all over the place, and if, through a program
error or just plain user error these files got destroyed or relocated,
all sorts of weird things could happen. So as time went by, the
registry grew both in size and complexity. It's nothing to trifle
with, and it's always a good idea to back it up first before using any
kind of cleaner program or, heaven forbid, using the registry editor
to do any tweaking.


Another good registry cleaner that I've heard highly recommended is
Registry Mechanic. It's not freeware and I don't have a link to it,
but I'm sure a Google search will turn up something about it.

Tom


----- Original Message ----- From: "Ariel"
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner

Hi everyone,
I'm just going to throw this out there. It's often not the fault of a
program. Sometimes it's better to live certain parts of the computer
if you do not know much about it specially your registry. Your
registry is what keeps your computer running. The registry is what
executes orders for your computer when certain events occur. There
are various things which could eventually slow down your PC's
performance. As some of you know, if you use your computer a lot, a
lot of unnecessary and unwanted information gets written to your
registry. Furthermore, updating, uninstalling, or installing software
on your computer will affect your computers performance over time.
Registry cleaners can of course help sort some of these issues, but
you should always be aware of what you are doing. If you don't have
experiences with the registry, leave it alone, or ask some one who
has experience. The registry is dangerous if you don't know what you
are doing. One mistake can cause your PC to stop working. I have seen
various cases in which they didn't know what they were doing, so I
had to reinstall Windows all over again. The point that I'm trying to
make is that if you don't know much about the registry, please leave
it alone. Always keep in mind that registry cleaners are less than
perfect. There's always a chance that registry cleaners may remove
needed data during the cleaning process. Leaving it alone will
prevent you from unwanted headaches. However, if you really want to
do it, than by all means do, but always do a registry backup, or
Google it if you don't know what it is. Note that I'm not throwing it
to bother anyone. For those interested in a good registry cleaner,
check out the link below. It's an awesome one, but be sure to ask
someone if you lack the knowledge, backup registry, or Google it
before any actions. Thanks,
A

http://www.wisecleaner.com/download.html
On 12/17/2012 7:05 PM, Robert Logue wrote:

Agree that CCleaner is potentially dangerous. However, You can
exclude files programs and folders as well as some items in the
registry. I wish FS would publish info about anything that should
not be touched by a registry cleaner.

one thing I don't like about CCleaner is that it does not give
enough information about the registry items it finds. I didn't find
that part of the program to helpful. It's good at cleaning unwanted
files but I leave the registry alone now.

Also, Despite all advice from blind users, I am unable to select
items in the registry to remove with the space bar and have to use
the mouse cursor instead.

Someone mentioned another program called Abexo. Interesting that
download.com does not have it. I wanted to see how popular it is
and what sort of reviews people have about Abexo. I found lots
through a web search but don't know the sources enough to trust them.

I just tried a couple programs that supposed to clean and optimize
but they were not accessible without scripting.
One was System Checkup 3.3 iolo technologies, LLC 12/5/2012
The other was SlimCleaner Free


Bob

On 12/16/2012 12:35 PM, Aidan Maher wrote:

I also would like to no, since most of them seem to mess things up
rather than cleaning the necessary files. And also a drive wiper? But
just not CCleaner. That really is not good for jaws users, maybe
accessible, but it remove things you need and sometimes can affect
jaws also.

On 16/12/2012, cecropia64@att.net <cecropia64@att.net> wrote:

HI FOLKS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY GOOD SUGGESTIONS FOR AN ACCESIBLE
REGISTRY CLEANER THAT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE FREE OR AT LEAST HAS A
TRIAL
VERSION. THANKS

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 09:57
Subject: RE: buttons on touch pad using dell lattitude


Dave,
I mistyped the keystroke.
FN F5 used to work but again, after upgrading to win 8 back in October, that
keystroke was no longer working.
Need to figure out a quick way to enable and disable this stuff because my
students use this dell machine at times.
Back to google!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: buttons on touch pad using dell lattitude

Kimsan,

On my Latitude I use the Fn key Plus F5 to route through the
disabling/enabling choices for the touchpad and touchstick. I do not know if
the buttons can be individually enabled without the touchpad.

In my case, I turn off all the touch-enabled devices, as they drive me
crazy.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com>
To: "jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 09:18
Subject: buttons on touch pad using dell lattitude


Hi,

Can someone who uses a dell latitude try and provide insturctions on how to
disable the buttons that are underneath the touchpad.

I type mouse in the control panel then forget where to go from there lol.

I also went into device manager and looked under mouse and other pointing
devices to see if I can disable it that way but there is only an uninstall
option.

The keystroke use to be alt F5 but ever since upgrading to windows eight
that is no longer working.

Thanks

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On 20/12/2012, Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com> wrote:

You should contact dell support and ask them. They build the thing,
they must provide it, or if you got any documentation with it, check
there, but these days they don't really give alot of documents with,
not even a windows disk.

On 20/12/2012, Kimsan <kimsansong@aol.com> wrote:

Dave,
I mistyped the keystroke.
FN F5 used to work but again, after upgrading to win 8 back in October,
that
keystroke was no longer working.
Need to figure out a quick way to enable and disable this stuff because
my
students use this dell machine at times.
Back to google!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: buttons on touch pad using dell lattitude

Kimsan,

On my Latitude I use the Fn key Plus F5 to route through the
disabling/enabling choices for the touchpad and touchstick. I do not know
if
the buttons can be individually enabled without the touchpad.

In my case, I turn off all the touch-enabled devices, as they drive me
crazy.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com>
To: "jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 09:18
Subject: buttons on touch pad using dell lattitude


Hi,

Can someone who uses a dell latitude try and provide insturctions on how
to
disable the buttons that are underneath the touchpad.

I type mouse in the control panel then forget where to go from there lol.

I also went into device manager and looked under mouse and other pointing
devices to see if I can disable it that way but there is only an
uninstall
option.

The keystroke use to be alt F5 but ever since upgrading to windows eight
that is no longer working.

Thanks

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On 20/12/2012, Kimsan <kimsansong@aol.com> wrote:

Dave,
I mistyped the keystroke.
FN F5 used to work but again, after upgrading to win 8 back in October,
that
keystroke was no longer working.
Need to figure out a quick way to enable and disable this stuff because my
students use this dell machine at times.
Back to google!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: buttons on touch pad using dell lattitude

Kimsan,

On my Latitude I use the Fn key Plus F5 to route through the
disabling/enabling choices for the touchpad and touchstick. I do not know
if
the buttons can be individually enabled without the touchpad.

In my case, I turn off all the touch-enabled devices, as they drive me
crazy.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
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To: "jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 09:18
Subject: buttons on touch pad using dell lattitude


Hi,

Can someone who uses a dell latitude try and provide insturctions on how to
disable the buttons that are underneath the touchpad.

I type mouse in the control panel then forget where to go from there lol.

I also went into device manager and looked under mouse and other pointing
devices to see if I can disable it that way but there is only an uninstall
option.

The keystroke use to be alt F5 but ever since upgrading to windows eight
that is no longer working.

Thanks

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:51 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: buttons on touch pad using dell lattitude

Kimsan,

On my Latitude I use the Fn key Plus F5 to route through the
disabling/enabling choices for the touchpad and touchstick. I do not know if
the buttons can be individually enabled without the touchpad.

In my case, I turn off all the touch-enabled devices, as they drive me
crazy.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
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To: "jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 09:18
Subject: buttons on touch pad using dell lattitude


Hi,

Can someone who uses a dell latitude try and provide insturctions on how to
disable the buttons that are underneath the touchpad.

I type mouse in the control panel then forget where to go from there lol.

I also went into device manager and looked under mouse and other pointing
devices to see if I can disable it that way but there is only an uninstall
option.

The keystroke use to be alt F5 but ever since upgrading to windows eight
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Thanks

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To: "jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 09:18
Subject: buttons on touch pad using dell lattitude


Hi,

Can someone who uses a dell latitude try and provide insturctions on how to
disable the buttons that are underneath the touchpad.

I type mouse in the control panel then forget where to go from there lol.

I also went into device manager and looked under mouse and other pointing
devices to see if I can disable it that way but there is only an uninstall
option.

The keystroke use to be alt F5 but ever since upgrading to windows eight
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Thanks

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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:07 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Problem reading capital letters using Vocaliser Samantha voice

Hi,

I have the latest version of jaws v14 and am now using the Vocaliser US Samantha High Premium voice.

Eloquence had started crashing my Windows 7 64 bit computer far too often after the latest JFW14 upgrade so I have switched to Vocaliser and no crashes anymore.

However Jaws is no longer indicating capital letters either when typing (I have read by character on for typing) or when reading text even character by character. There is no change in pitch and it doesn't say cap like it did when using eloquence.

I have made no changes except swapping over to Vocaliser voice.

Any idea what could be going wrong? Are others having a similar problem at all? Any suggestions on how to fix this?

Thanks,
Dale.



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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 3:52 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Problem reading capital letters using Vocaliser Samantha voice

Yes, that is a good idea, I do wish however, that jaws had the ability to
build verbosity skeems and have more control over that.
That would be more useful to address issues like this instead of speech and
sound manager, but for now that is a good way to do it.

On 20/12/2012, Roy Nickelson <roylee@visuallink.com> wrote:

you can accomplish this task with the speech and sounds manager. Just
make a

new Scheme for caps.
Roy

----- Original Message -----
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:49 AM
Subject: RE: Problem reading capital letters using Vocaliser Samantha
voice


Well Jaws should be changed to switch to a different voice for
capitals perhaps as a way of notifying you. Or it could just say cap
T to indicate a capital letter.

Also it does seem to have pitch capability - try typing a question mark ?
and the pitch definitely rises when it reads it back by character.

Dale.



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-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 4:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Problem reading capital letters using Vocaliser Samantha
voice

Hi dale..

Unfortunately that's the way it is with the vocalizer voices. They
don't allow for pitch change. I love samantha, but won't use her
because of this limitation.

Russell

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-12-19, at 10:06 PM, "Dale Reardon" <dale@dalereardon.com> wrote:

Hi,

I have the latest version of jaws v14 and am now using the Vocaliser
US Samantha High Premium voice.

Eloquence had started crashing my Windows 7 64 bit computer far too
often after the latest JFW14 upgrade so I have switched to Vocaliser
and no crashes anymore.

However Jaws is no longer indicating capital letters either when
typing (I have read by character on for typing) or when reading text
even character by character. There is no change in pitch and it
doesn't say cap like it did when using eloquence.

I have made no changes except swapping over to Vocaliser voice.

Any idea what could be going wrong? Are others having a similar
problem at all? Any suggestions on how to fix this?

Thanks,
Dale.



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On 20/12/2012, Adrian Spratt <Adrian@adrianspratt.com> wrote:

Dave, I thought the preferred method in the case of JAWS was to uninstall
via the programs menu.

1. Go to start menu with Windows key or control+escape.

2. P for programs.

3. Press j until the desired version of JAWS is announced. Press enter.

4. Arrow down to Tools. Press enter.

5. Arrow up to Uninstall. Press enter.

6. Follow prompts, including the query whether you want to delete shared
components.

One note to Addison Gethers. If you want to delete more than one version, I
believe the safer practice is to start with the earlier version. In which
case, rinse, wash, repeat!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 6:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How to remove jaws 13 and 14 from computer?

Control Panel
Add/Remove Programs
Wait for the list to populate
Arrow down to JAWS 13 Tab to the Change/Remove button
Press spacebar
Follow instructions.

Rinse, wash, repeat.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support mailing list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 15:04
Subject: How to remove jaws 13 and 14 from computer?


Hi All,
I never know how to remove jaws from ctrl panel ,Can anybody tell me how to

remove jaws 13 and 14 from computer? This will be my first time doing it
and

will appreciate if anyone can give me instruction how to remove jaws from
computer!! I'm using desktop computer with window xp!!

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On 20/12/2012, Roy Nickelson <roylee@visuallink.com> wrote:

you can accomplish this task with the speech and sounds manager. Just make a

new Scheme for caps.
Roy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Reardon" <dale@dalereardon.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:49 AM
Subject: RE: Problem reading capital letters using Vocaliser Samantha voice


Well Jaws should be changed to switch to a different voice for capitals
perhaps as a way of notifying you. Or it could just say cap T to indicate
a
capital letter.

Also it does seem to have pitch capability - try typing a question mark ?
and the pitch definitely rises when it reads it back by character.

Dale.



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-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 4:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Problem reading capital letters using Vocaliser Samantha voice

Hi dale..

Unfortunately that's the way it is with the vocalizer voices. They don't
allow for pitch change. I love samantha, but won't use her because of this
limitation.

Russell

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-12-19, at 10:06 PM, "Dale Reardon" <dale@dalereardon.com> wrote:

Hi,

I have the latest version of jaws v14 and am now using the Vocaliser
US Samantha High Premium voice.

Eloquence had started crashing my Windows 7 64 bit computer far too
often after the latest JFW14 upgrade so I have switched to Vocaliser
and no crashes anymore.

However Jaws is no longer indicating capital letters either when
typing (I have read by character on for typing) or when reading text
even character by character. There is no change in pitch and it
doesn't say cap like it did when using eloquence.

I have made no changes except swapping over to Vocaliser voice.

Any idea what could be going wrong? Are others having a similar
problem at all? Any suggestions on how to fix this?

Thanks,
Dale.



Dale Reardon

Phone: 03 62867105 Mobile: 0420 277457

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 12:49 AM
Subject: RE: Problem reading capital letters using Vocaliser Samantha voice


Well Jaws should be changed to switch to a different voice for capitals
perhaps as a way of notifying you. Or it could just say cap T to indicate a
capital letter.

Also it does seem to have pitch capability - try typing a question mark ?
and the pitch definitely rises when it reads it back by character.

Dale.



Dale Reardon

Phone: 03 62867105 Mobile: 0420 277457

Follow me on Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/dalereardon/> and Facebook
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 4:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Problem reading capital letters using Vocaliser Samantha voice

Hi dale..

Unfortunately that's the way it is with the vocalizer voices. They don't
allow for pitch change. I love samantha, but won't use her because of this
limitation.

Russell

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-12-19, at 10:06 PM, "Dale Reardon" <dale@dalereardon.com> wrote:

Hi,

I have the latest version of jaws v14 and am now using the Vocaliser
US Samantha High Premium voice.

Eloquence had started crashing my Windows 7 64 bit computer far too
often after the latest JFW14 upgrade so I have switched to Vocaliser
and no crashes anymore.

However Jaws is no longer indicating capital letters either when
typing (I have read by character on for typing) or when reading text
even character by character. There is no change in pitch and it
doesn't say cap like it did when using eloquence.

I have made no changes except swapping over to Vocaliser voice.

Any idea what could be going wrong? Are others having a similar
problem at all? Any suggestions on how to fix this?

Thanks,
Dale.



Dale Reardon

Phone: 03 62867105 Mobile: 0420 277457

Follow me on Twitter < <http://www.twitter.com/dalereardon/>
http://www.twitter.com/dalereardon/> and Facebook <
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http://www.dalereardon.com.au/> covering discrimination law,
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 4:43 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Problem reading capital letters using Vocaliser Samantha voice

Hi dale..

Unfortunately that's the way it is with the vocalizer voices. They don't
allow for pitch change. I love samantha, but won't use her because of this
limitation.

Russell

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-12-19, at 10:06 PM, "Dale Reardon" <dale@dalereardon.com> wrote:

Hi,

I have the latest version of jaws v14 and am now using the Vocaliser
US Samantha High Premium voice.

Eloquence had started crashing my Windows 7 64 bit computer far too
often after the latest JFW14 upgrade so I have switched to Vocaliser
and no crashes anymore.

However Jaws is no longer indicating capital letters either when
typing (I have read by character on for typing) or when reading text
even character by character. There is no change in pitch and it
doesn't say cap like it did when using eloquence.

I have made no changes except swapping over to Vocaliser voice.

Any idea what could be going wrong? Are others having a similar
problem at all? Any suggestions on how to fix this?

Thanks,
Dale.



Dale Reardon

Phone: 03 62867105 Mobile: 0420 277457

Follow me on Twitter < <http://www.twitter.com/dalereardon/>
http://www.twitter.com/dalereardon/> and Facebook <
<http://www.facebook.com/dalereardon/>
http://www.facebook.com/dalereardon/>


My blog < <http://www.dalereardon.com.au/>
http://www.dalereardon.com.au/> covering discrimination law,
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