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Re: iTunes 10.7

Dondi
 

Hi Kevin,

Here's my version of iTunes 10.7, click on the link below to download it
from my drop box.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/60716643/iTunesSetup.exe

Have you heard of BlindTunes? It allows JAWS to understand the iTunes
interface and gives blind users all kinds of shortcuts.

http://www.blindtunes.net/

Dondi
We are the music makers,
And we are the dreamers of dreams,

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 8:01 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: itunes 10.7

where can I find an itunes 10.7 installer
32 bits for windows? my itunes automatically upgraded to version 11 and I
do not like the new interface, because jaws cannot navigate it.
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Re: help with web with JAWS 14 & windows 8

Artur R├Ąpp
 

Hello You have other possipilities to open Control panel in Windows 8 too. 1. move to old desktop (win+d)press win+ithe first choice is control panel 2 press win+xarrow to control panel, press enter 3. open start screen (pres win key)press ctrl+tab (move to all programs list)press end key (move to the end of the list, the list is quite long)move with up arrow to control panel, press enterYou can press application instead and pind the Control panel to start screen 4.press win+e (open File Explorer, same as Windows explorer in Win7)press shft+tab to move into tree viewmove with down arrow to Control panel, open it with right arrow or press enter and then tab to control panel. 5.press win+ctab to settings, press enter this is the same place as win+d and then win+i (choice 1) HTHArtur
> From: lotusrising@verizon.net
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: RE: help with web with JAWS 14 & windows 8
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 11:55:39 -0500

That fixed it; thank you!

As for my other Jaws issues, it's off to FS; hopefully, I'll get a tech rep
better than the last time.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 11:25 AM
To: jfw
Subject: Re: help with web with JAWS 14 & windows 8

Hi Lauren,
To open the control panel:
1. Press the windows key to go to the start screen, if you're not already on
it.
2. Type in control panel, and press Enter.
It sounds like after you typed in control panel, you pressed tab. This would
have taken you to a list of the possible scopes of the search, which
includes apps, files, internet explorer, etc.

I would expect expect internet explorer to be pinned to the taskbar on a new
install of windows 8. If you press windows key + T, this cycles you round
the taskbar buttons, and you should find it.

If you're still having problems finding the internet options dialog, yet
another way of opening it is to press windows key + w to search for
settings, type in internet options, and press enter.

David.

original message:
I don't seem to find a desktop verision of internet explorer and when I
launch the control panel, Jaws only reads applications, files, etc. and when
I get to internet explorer and press right click key, Jaws only says pin,
hide and I can't hear the rest of the choices or Jaws or windows 8 isn't
functioning and since I don't have any sighted help, I don't know which is
the case.

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Re: good registry cleaner

Ariel
 

Hi Tom,
Much respect to you. You could very well be correct and I could be wrong. I have always looked at the Registry as the part that keeps your computer running, and tells your computer what to do when certain events occur. I appreciate your reply.Mechanic is definitely great. I used to have it, but I no longer do. Thanks,
A

On 12/18/2012 11:07 PM, Tom Lange wrote:
Hi,
Actually, the registry isn't a program that runs and executes instructions. Think of it more as something like a convoluted database that stores an inventory of your existing hardware and software and related settings. In the early days of Windows there was a registry, but a lot of this information was stored in initialization files which were essentially straight text files with a .ini extension. These files would be scattered all over the place, and if, through a program error or just plain user error these files got destroyed or relocated, all sorts of weird things could happen. So as time went by, the registry grew both in size and complexity. It's nothing to trifle with, and it's always a good idea to back it up first before using any kind of cleaner program or, heaven forbid, using the registry editor to do any tweaking.


Another good registry cleaner that I've heard highly recommended is Registry Mechanic. It's not freeware and I don't have a link to it, but I'm sure a Google search will turn up something about it.

Tom


----- Original Message ----- From: "Ariel" <accessibleknowledge@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner


Hi everyone,
I'm just going to throw this out there. It's often not the fault of a program. Sometimes it's better to live certain parts of the computer if you do not know much about it specially your registry. Your registry is what keeps your computer running. The registry is what executes orders for your computer when certain events occur. There are various things which could eventually slow down your PC's performance. As some of you know, if you use your computer a lot, a lot of unnecessary and unwanted information gets written to your registry. Furthermore, updating, uninstalling, or installing software on your computer will affect your computers performance over time. Registry cleaners can of course help sort some of these issues, but you should always be aware of what you are doing. If you don't have experiences with the registry, leave it alone, or ask some one who has experience. The registry is dangerous if you don't know what you are doing. One mistake can cause your PC to stop working. I have seen various cases in which they didn't know what they were doing, so I had to reinstall Windows all over again. The point that I'm trying to make is that if you don't know much about the registry, please leave it alone. Always keep in mind that registry cleaners are less than perfect. There's always a chance that registry cleaners may remove needed data during the cleaning process. Leaving it alone will prevent you from unwanted headaches. However, if you really want to do it, than by all means do, but always do a registry backup, or Google it if you don't know what it is. Note that I'm not throwing it to bother anyone. For those interested in a good registry cleaner, check out the link below. It's an awesome one, but be sure to ask someone if you lack the knowledge, backup registry, or Google it before any actions. Thanks,
A

http://www.wisecleaner.com/download.html
On 12/17/2012 7:05 PM, Robert Logue wrote:
Agree that CCleaner is potentially dangerous. However, You can exclude files programs and folders as well as some items in the registry. I wish FS would publish info about anything that should not be touched by a registry cleaner.

one thing I don't like about CCleaner is that it does not give enough information about the registry items it finds. I didn't find that part of the program to helpful. It's good at cleaning unwanted files but I leave the registry alone now.

Also, Despite all advice from blind users, I am unable to select items in the registry to remove with the space bar and have to use the mouse cursor instead.

Someone mentioned another program called Abexo. Interesting that download.com does not have it. I wanted to see how popular it is and what sort of reviews people have about Abexo. I found lots through a web search but don't know the sources enough to trust them.

I just tried a couple programs that supposed to clean and optimize but they were not accessible without scripting.
One was System Checkup 3.3 iolo technologies, LLC 12/5/2012
The other was SlimCleaner Free


Bob

On 12/16/2012 12:35 PM, Aidan Maher wrote:
I also would like to no, since most of them seem to mess things up
rather than cleaning the necessary files. And also a drive wiper? But
just not CCleaner. That really is not good for jaws users, maybe
accessible, but it remove things you need and sometimes can affect
jaws also.

On 16/12/2012, cecropia64@att.net <cecropia64@att.net> wrote:
HI FOLKS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY GOOD SUGGESTIONS FOR AN ACCESIBLE
REGISTRY CLEANER THAT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE FREE OR AT LEAST HAS A TRIAL
VERSION. THANKS

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Re: good registry cleaner

Ariel
 

Hi Bob,
I was honestly hoping that it would work with NVDA since you can turn on Mouse Tracking. I know, it's a JAWS list, but when it concerns accessibility, these things shouldn't matter.

On 12/18/2012 8:41 PM, Robert Logue wrote:
Thanksfor the update. Again, we have to choose between programs that are screen reader friendly and software that is really good. Sometimes we are lucky and get both together but it is hard to find.

I'll skip Wise Cleaner then. To bad, it gets good ratings at download.com.

Bob

On 12/18/2012 6:36 AM, Ariel wrote:
Hi everyone,
I apologize. I sent out the wrong link. The link to the registry cleaner
I sent is a good link, but the program is not accessible. It works
extremely well though. I have some vision, so I naturally forgot that it
wasn't accessible. The link I meant to send is the following:
http://www.eusing.com/free_registry_cleaner/registry_cleaner.htm
On 12/18/2012 8:18 AM, Ariel wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm just going to throw this out there. It's often not the fault of a
program. Sometimes it's better to live certain parts of the computer
if you do not know much about it specially your registry. Your
registry is what keeps your computer running. The registry is what
executes orders for your computer when certain events occur. There are
various things which could eventually slow down your PC's performance.
As some of you know, if you use your computer a lot, a lot of
unnecessary and unwanted information gets written to your registry.
Furthermore, updating, uninstalling, or installing software on your
computer will affect your computers performance over time. Registry
cleaners can of course help sort some of these issues, but you should
always be aware of what you are doing. If you don't have experiences
with the registry, leave it alone, or ask some one who has experience.
The registry is dangerous if you don't know what you are doing. One
mistake can cause your PC to stop working. I have seen various cases
in which they didn't know what they were doing, so I had to reinstall
Windows all over again. The point that I'm trying to make is that if
you don't know much about the registry, please leave it alone. Always
keep in mind that registry cleaners are less than perfect. There's
always a chance that registry cleaners may remove needed data during
the cleaning process. Leaving it alone will prevent you from unwanted
headaches. However, if you really want to do it, than by all means do,
but always do a registry backup, or Google it if you don't know what
it is. Note that I'm not throwing it to bother anyone. For those
interested in a good registry cleaner, check out the link below. It's
an awesome one, but be sure to ask someone if you lack the knowledge,
backup registry, or Google it before any actions. Thanks,
A

http://www.wisecleaner.com/download.html
On 12/17/2012 7:05 PM, Robert Logue wrote:
Agree that CCleaner is potentially dangerous. However, You can
exclude files programs and folders as well as some items in the
registry. I wish FS would publish info about anything that should not
be touched by a registry cleaner.

one thing I don't like about CCleaner is that it does not give enough
information about the registry items it finds. I didn't find that
part of the program to helpful. It's good at cleaning unwanted files
but I leave the registry alone now.

Also, Despite all advice from blind users, I am unable to select
items in the registry to remove with the space bar and have to use
the mouse cursor instead.

Someone mentioned another program called Abexo. Interesting that
download.com does not have it. I wanted to see how popular it is and
what sort of reviews people have about Abexo. I found lots through a
web search but don't know the sources enough to trust them.

I just tried a couple programs that supposed to clean and optimize
but they were not accessible without scripting.
One was System Checkup 3.3 iolo technologies, LLC 12/5/2012
The other was SlimCleaner Free


Bob

On 12/16/2012 12:35 PM, Aidan Maher wrote:
I also would like to no, since most of them seem to mess things up
rather than cleaning the necessary files. And also a drive wiper? But
just not CCleaner. That really is not good for jaws users, maybe
accessible, but it remove things you need and sometimes can affect
jaws also.

On 16/12/2012, cecropia64@att.net <cecropia64@att.net> wrote:
HI FOLKS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY GOOD SUGGESTIONS FOR AN ACCESIBLE
REGISTRY CLEANER THAT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE FREE OR AT LEAST HAS A TRIAL
VERSION. THANKS

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Re: good registry cleaner

Ariel
 

Hi Bob,
Wise Cleaner is definitely awesome! It works extremely well, but the downside to it is that it's inaccessible. I had a case in which CCleaner didn't detect any issues, yet Wise found 350 issues. Thanks,
A

On 12/18/2012 8:37 PM, Robert Logue wrote:
ThanksAriel. I was going to try wize cleaner but didn't know how well it works with Jaws.

Someday I'm going to have a sepperet PC for testing software.

Bob


On 12/18/2012 6:18 AM, Ariel wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm just going to throw this out there. It's often not the fault of a
program. Sometimes it's better to live certain parts of the computer if
you do not know much about it specially your registry. Your registry is
what keeps your computer running. The registry is what executes orders
for your computer when certain events occur. There are various things
which could eventually slow down your PC's performance. As some of you
know, if you use your computer a lot, a lot of unnecessary and unwanted
information gets written to your registry. Furthermore, updating,
uninstalling, or installing software on your computer will affect your
computers performance over time. Registry cleaners can of course help
sort some of these issues, but you should always be aware of what you
are doing. If you don't have experiences with the registry, leave it
alone, or ask some one who has experience. The registry is dangerous if
you don't know what you are doing. One mistake can cause your PC to stop
working. I have seen various cases in which they didn't know what they
were doing, so I had to reinstall Windows all over again. The point that
I'm trying to make is that if you don't know much about the registry,
please leave it alone. Always keep in mind that registry cleaners are
less than perfect. There's always a chance that registry cleaners may
remove needed data during the cleaning process. Leaving it alone will
prevent you from unwanted headaches. However, if you really want to do
it, than by all means do, but always do a registry backup, or Google it
if you don't know what it is. Note that I'm not throwing it to bother
anyone. For those interested in a good registry cleaner, check out the
link below. It's an awesome one, but be sure to ask someone if you lack
the knowledge, backup registry, or Google it before any actions. Thanks,
A

http://www.wisecleaner.com/download.html
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Re: good registry cleaner

Tom Lange
 

Hi,
Actually, the registry isn't a program that runs and executes instructions. Think of it more as something like a convoluted database that stores an inventory of your existing hardware and software and related settings. In the early days of Windows there was a registry, but a lot of this information was stored in initialization files which were essentially straight text files with a .ini extension. These files would be scattered all over the place, and if, through a program error or just plain user error these files got destroyed or relocated, all sorts of weird things could happen. So as time went by, the registry grew both in size and complexity. It's nothing to trifle with, and it's always a good idea to back it up first before using any kind of cleaner program or, heaven forbid, using the registry editor to do any tweaking.


Another good registry cleaner that I've heard highly recommended is Registry Mechanic. It's not freeware and I don't have a link to it, but I'm sure a Google search will turn up something about it.

Tom

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ariel" <accessibleknowledge@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner


Hi everyone,
I'm just going to throw this out there. It's often not the fault of a program. Sometimes it's better to live certain parts of the computer if you do not know much about it specially your registry. Your registry is what keeps your computer running. The registry is what executes orders for your computer when certain events occur. There are various things which could eventually slow down your PC's performance. As some of you know, if you use your computer a lot, a lot of unnecessary and unwanted information gets written to your registry. Furthermore, updating, uninstalling, or installing software on your computer will affect your computers performance over time. Registry cleaners can of course help sort some of these issues, but you should always be aware of what you are doing. If you don't have experiences with the registry, leave it alone, or ask some one who has experience. The registry is dangerous if you don't know what you are doing. One mistake can cause your PC to stop working. I have seen various cases in which they didn't know what they were doing, so I had to reinstall Windows all over again. The point that I'm trying to make is that if you don't know much about the registry, please leave it alone. Always keep in mind that registry cleaners are less than perfect. There's always a chance that registry cleaners may remove needed data during the cleaning process. Leaving it alone will prevent you from unwanted headaches. However, if you really want to do it, than by all means do, but always do a registry backup, or Google it if you don't know what it is. Note that I'm not throwing it to bother anyone. For those interested in a good registry cleaner, check out the link below. It's an awesome one, but be sure to ask someone if you lack the knowledge, backup registry, or Google it before any actions. Thanks,
A

http://www.wisecleaner.com/download.html
On 12/17/2012 7:05 PM, Robert Logue wrote:
Agree that CCleaner is potentially dangerous. However, You can exclude files programs and folders as well as some items in the registry. I wish FS would publish info about anything that should not be touched by a registry cleaner.

one thing I don't like about CCleaner is that it does not give enough information about the registry items it finds. I didn't find that part of the program to helpful. It's good at cleaning unwanted files but I leave the registry alone now.

Also, Despite all advice from blind users, I am unable to select items in the registry to remove with the space bar and have to use the mouse cursor instead.

Someone mentioned another program called Abexo. Interesting that download.com does not have it. I wanted to see how popular it is and what sort of reviews people have about Abexo. I found lots through a web search but don't know the sources enough to trust them.

I just tried a couple programs that supposed to clean and optimize but they were not accessible without scripting.
One was System Checkup 3.3 iolo technologies, LLC 12/5/2012
The other was SlimCleaner Free


Bob

On 12/16/2012 12:35 PM, Aidan Maher wrote:
I also would like to no, since most of them seem to mess things up
rather than cleaning the necessary files. And also a drive wiper? But
just not CCleaner. That really is not good for jaws users, maybe
accessible, but it remove things you need and sometimes can affect
jaws also.

On 16/12/2012, cecropia64@att.net <cecropia64@att.net> wrote:
HI FOLKS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY GOOD SUGGESTIONS FOR AN ACCESIBLE
REGISTRY CLEANER THAT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE FREE OR AT LEAST HAS A TRIAL
VERSION. THANKS

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CCleaner Tutorial

Mike B. <mb69mach1@...>
 

Hi All,

Below is a link to a guide for using CCleaner.

http://www.jaws-users.com/text/Disk/CCleaner.html

Below is a link for an audio tutorial for CCleaner:

http://www.jaws-users.com/audio/Utilities/bct1068CCleaner.mp3

Take care.
Mike
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Re: good registry cleaner

Robert Logue <bobcat11@...>
 

Thanksfor the update. Again, we have to choose between programs that are screen reader friendly and software that is really good. Sometimes we are lucky and get both together but it is hard to find.

I'll skip Wise Cleaner then. To bad, it gets good ratings at download.com.

Bob

On 12/18/2012 6:36 AM, Ariel wrote:
Hi everyone,
I apologize. I sent out the wrong link. The link to the registry cleaner
I sent is a good link, but the program is not accessible. It works
extremely well though. I have some vision, so I naturally forgot that it
wasn't accessible. The link I meant to send is the following:
http://www.eusing.com/free_registry_cleaner/registry_cleaner.htm
On 12/18/2012 8:18 AM, Ariel wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm just going to throw this out there. It's often not the fault of a
program. Sometimes it's better to live certain parts of the computer
if you do not know much about it specially your registry. Your
registry is what keeps your computer running. The registry is what
executes orders for your computer when certain events occur. There are
various things which could eventually slow down your PC's performance.
As some of you know, if you use your computer a lot, a lot of
unnecessary and unwanted information gets written to your registry.
Furthermore, updating, uninstalling, or installing software on your
computer will affect your computers performance over time. Registry
cleaners can of course help sort some of these issues, but you should
always be aware of what you are doing. If you don't have experiences
with the registry, leave it alone, or ask some one who has experience.
The registry is dangerous if you don't know what you are doing. One
mistake can cause your PC to stop working. I have seen various cases
in which they didn't know what they were doing, so I had to reinstall
Windows all over again. The point that I'm trying to make is that if
you don't know much about the registry, please leave it alone. Always
keep in mind that registry cleaners are less than perfect. There's
always a chance that registry cleaners may remove needed data during
the cleaning process. Leaving it alone will prevent you from unwanted
headaches. However, if you really want to do it, than by all means do,
but always do a registry backup, or Google it if you don't know what
it is. Note that I'm not throwing it to bother anyone. For those
interested in a good registry cleaner, check out the link below. It's
an awesome one, but be sure to ask someone if you lack the knowledge,
backup registry, or Google it before any actions. Thanks,
A

http://www.wisecleaner.com/download.html
On 12/17/2012 7:05 PM, Robert Logue wrote:
Agree that CCleaner is potentially dangerous. However, You can
exclude files programs and folders as well as some items in the
registry. I wish FS would publish info about anything that should not
be touched by a registry cleaner.

one thing I don't like about CCleaner is that it does not give enough
information about the registry items it finds. I didn't find that
part of the program to helpful. It's good at cleaning unwanted files
but I leave the registry alone now.

Also, Despite all advice from blind users, I am unable to select
items in the registry to remove with the space bar and have to use
the mouse cursor instead.

Someone mentioned another program called Abexo. Interesting that
download.com does not have it. I wanted to see how popular it is and
what sort of reviews people have about Abexo. I found lots through a
web search but don't know the sources enough to trust them.

I just tried a couple programs that supposed to clean and optimize
but they were not accessible without scripting.
One was System Checkup 3.3 iolo technologies, LLC 12/5/2012
The other was SlimCleaner Free


Bob

On 12/16/2012 12:35 PM, Aidan Maher wrote:
I also would like to no, since most of them seem to mess things up
rather than cleaning the necessary files. And also a drive wiper? But
just not CCleaner. That really is not good for jaws users, maybe
accessible, but it remove things you need and sometimes can affect
jaws also.

On 16/12/2012, cecropia64@att.net <cecropia64@att.net> wrote:
HI FOLKS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY GOOD SUGGESTIONS FOR AN ACCESIBLE
REGISTRY CLEANER THAT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE FREE OR AT LEAST HAS A TRIAL
VERSION. THANKS

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Re: good registry cleaner

Robert Logue <bobcat11@...>
 

ThanksAriel. I was going to try wize cleaner but didn't know how well it works with Jaws.

Someday I'm going to have a sepperet PC for testing software.

Bob

On 12/18/2012 6:18 AM, Ariel wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm just going to throw this out there. It's often not the fault of a
program. Sometimes it's better to live certain parts of the computer if
you do not know much about it specially your registry. Your registry is
what keeps your computer running. The registry is what executes orders
for your computer when certain events occur. There are various things
which could eventually slow down your PC's performance. As some of you
know, if you use your computer a lot, a lot of unnecessary and unwanted
information gets written to your registry. Furthermore, updating,
uninstalling, or installing software on your computer will affect your
computers performance over time. Registry cleaners can of course help
sort some of these issues, but you should always be aware of what you
are doing. If you don't have experiences with the registry, leave it
alone, or ask some one who has experience. The registry is dangerous if
you don't know what you are doing. One mistake can cause your PC to stop
working. I have seen various cases in which they didn't know what they
were doing, so I had to reinstall Windows all over again. The point that
I'm trying to make is that if you don't know much about the registry,
please leave it alone. Always keep in mind that registry cleaners are
less than perfect. There's always a chance that registry cleaners may
remove needed data during the cleaning process. Leaving it alone will
prevent you from unwanted headaches. However, if you really want to do
it, than by all means do, but always do a registry backup, or Google it
if you don't know what it is. Note that I'm not throwing it to bother
anyone. For those interested in a good registry cleaner, check out the
link below. It's an awesome one, but be sure to ask someone if you lack
the knowledge, backup registry, or Google it before any actions. Thanks,
A

http://www.wisecleaner.com/download.html


Re: Which Office version, which JAWS version?

Alex Stone <alexstone871@...>
 

Yes it is, I used jaws 12 with office 2010 at work for some time.
Cheers
Alex

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Sent: 18 December 2012 20:56
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Which Office version, which JAWS version?

Hi,
This is true.
On 12/18/2012 3:28 PM, Farfar Carlson wrote:
I believe JAWS 12 and upwards will work with Office 2010.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


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To: "jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 12:21
Subject: Which Office version, which JAWS version?


I have an old computer with Office 97 on it and another with Office
2002, Dell's OEM version I think, on it. I have a third machine with
no office on it at all, so I need to purchase one. I don't know what
my purchase options are, but I suspect I'll be stuck with Office 2010.
Which version of JAWS is required for O2010?

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latest version of JAWS and tables in MSword 2002

Marie Lyons <mlyons53@...>
 

I need to be able to read whole columns in tables. Previously, I would use
windows key with period. Since the upgrade this no longer works. I've
looked through the help section but haven't found anything. I admit, I
could be looking in the wrong place. Does anyone know the solution?



Marie

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Re: good registry cleaner

Ariel
 

Anytime.

On 12/18/2012 2:11 PM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:
No, can't say I have. Maybe I'll Google that title, and see what pops up. Thanks.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ariel
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 2:10 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner

Hi Ted,
Have you looked on Bookshare? There's one cal_led "Managing the Windows
2000 Registry. I don't know how helpful it would be to you, but it looks
promising.
_On 12/18/2012 8:40 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:
Amen!!!! I may be a bit long in the tooth to be so ambitious, but I'd really like to find a good book on the registry, something like the work Peter Norton did on DOS years ago. In addition to being a crack programmer, he's a good teacher too.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ariel
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 8:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner

Hi everyone,
I'm just going to throw this out there. It's often not the fault of a program. Sometimes it's better to live certain parts of the computer if you do not know much about it specially your registry. Your registry is what keeps your computer running. The registry is what executes orders for your computer when certain events occur. There are various things which could eventually slow down your PC's performance. As some of you know, if you use your computer a lot, a lot of unnecessary and unwanted information gets written to your registry. Furthermore, updating, uninstalling, or installing software on your computer will affect your computers performance over time. Registry cleaners can of course help sort some of these issues, but you should always be aware of what you are doing. If you don't have experiences with the registry, leave it alone, or ask some one who has experience. The registry is dangerous if you don't know what you are doing. One mistake can cause your PC to stop working. I have seen various cases in which they didn't know what they were doing, so I had to reinstall Windows all over again. The point that I'm trying to make is that if you don't know much about the registry, please leave it alone. Always keep in mind that registry cleaners are less than perfect. There's always a chance that registry cleaners may remove needed data during the cleaning process. Leaving it alone will prevent you from unwanted headaches. However, if you really want to do it, than by all means do, but always do a registry backup, or Google it if you don't know what it is. Note that I'm not throwing it to bother anyone. For those interested in a good registry cleaner, check out the link below. It's an awesome one, but be sure to ask someone if you lack the knowledge, backup registry, or Google it before any actions. Thanks, A

http://www.wisecleaner.com/download.html
On 12/17/2012 7:05 PM, Robert Logue wrote:
Agree that CCleaner is potentially dangerous. However, You can
exclude files programs and folders as well as some items in the
registry. I wish FS would publish info about anything that should not
be touched by a registry cleaner.

one thing I don't like about CCleaner is that it does not give enough
information about the registry items it finds. I didn't find that
part of the program to helpful. It's good at cleaning unwanted files
but I leave the registry alone now.

Also, Despite all advice from blind users, I am unable to select items
in the registry to remove with the space bar and have to use the mouse
cursor instead.

Someone mentioned another program called Abexo. Interesting that
download.com does not have it. I wanted to see how popular it is and
what sort of reviews people have about Abexo. I found lots through a
web search but don't know the sources enough to trust them.

I just tried a couple programs that supposed to clean and optimize but
they were not accessible without scripting.
One was System Checkup 3.3 iolo technologies, LLC 12/5/2012 The other
was SlimCleaner Free


Bob

On 12/16/2012 12:35 PM, Aidan Maher wrote:
I also would like to no, since most of them seem to mess things up
rather than cleaning the necessary files. And also a drive wiper? But
just not CCleaner. That really is not good for jaws users, maybe
accessible, but it remove things you need and sometimes can affect
jaws also.

On 16/12/2012, cecropia64@att.net <cecropia64@att.net> wrote:
HI FOLKS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY GOOD SUGGESTIONS FOR AN ACCESIBLE
REGISTRY CLEANER THAT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE FREE OR AT LEAST HAS A
TRIAL VERSION. THANKS

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Re: Which Office version, which JAWS version?

Ariel
 

Hi,
This is true.

On 12/18/2012 3:28 PM, Farfar Carlson wrote:
I believe JAWS 12 and upwards will work with Office 2010.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <number6@noisynotes.com>
To: "jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 12:21
Subject: Which Office version, which JAWS version?


I have an old computer with Office 97 on it and another with Office
2002, Dell's OEM version I think, on it. I have a third machine with
no office on it at all, so I need to purchase one. I don't know what
my purchase options are, but I suspect I'll be stuck with Office 2010.
Which version of JAWS is required for O2010?

TIA

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Re: What settings should be used when using a regestry cleaner?

Dave Durber
 

Hello David:

I still use JAWS Version 9 for some things. I have no problems using the latest version of CCleaner with JAWS 9.

Sincerely:

Dave durber

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 1:41 PM
Subject: What settings should be used when using a regestry cleaner?


Hi list members, I'd like to know what settings should be used when using a registry cleaner? Also what version of c cleaner works best for users of jaws version 9? Thank you for any information that you might have.
----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner


Hi,

Regarding the registery cleaner, can someone tell me the advantages of doing a registery clean?

Thanks,

David

-----Original Message-----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: good registry cleaner

I have a question, which you can answer off list if you like. I never used that product, because I never figured out if you were supposed to check the boxes you wanted rid of, or the ones you wanted to keep. A miscalculation like that was something I didn't want to risk. I use to use the one that came with Norton Utilities under 98. It worked fine until one day when it didn't; what a mess!

Ted

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Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner

THANKS TO DAVE AND EVERYBODY WHO RESPONDED TO MY INITIAL INQUIRY. I DID END UP GETTING C-CLEANER AND IT DID WHAT I NEEDED. THANKS FOLKS. STEWART
----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: good registry cleaner


CCleaner is by far the best I've used. Very easy to understand the
interface and accessible.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:32
Subject: good registry cleaner


HI FOLKS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY GOOD SUGGESTIONS FOR AN ACCESIBLE
REGISTRY CLEANER THAT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE FREE OR AT LEAST HAS A TRIAL
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Re: JAWS for DOS

Dave Durber
 

DOS, (Disk Operating System), was the main operating system most of us used before Windows came along. There were several varients of Disk Operating Systems but, Microsoft's Disk Operating System (DOS) was the most popular.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave durber

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 12:01 PM
Subject: RE: JAWS for DOS


What is dos?


-original message-
Subject: RE: JAWS for DOS
From: Doris and Chris <chipmunks@gmx.net>
Date: 17/12/2012 8.04 pm

I think you actually can use the more modern dos screenreaders like
asap or vocal eyes under an NT environment, i.e. in a console or you
can run your dos screenreader from a boot floppy and access your nt
system that way as long as the floppy has a driver to read the ntfs
file system on the nt box.

Doris




At 01:44 PM 12/17/2012 +0000, you wrote:
Good points. As I recall, you haven't been able to use a DOS
screenreader in anything later than Win98. That's why I finally
discontinued using my much-beloved ASAP.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 1:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS for DOS

Hello Carlos:

Yes, you can put JAWS for DOS on a 1.44 floppy Disk.

To my knowledge, you cannot use JFD to access the CMOS for a
motherboard in any way nor, can you use JFD to delete/wipe/erase the
CMOS settings for a motherboard.

If you know where the jumper that resets the CMOS to factory
defaults is located on your motherboard, change the jumper setting
and turn on your computer so that the reset of the CMOS can be performed.

After the CMOS has been reset to factory defaults, turn off the
computer and return the jumper to its original location, otherwise,
the CMOS will be reset to factory defaults, each time you turn on
your computer.

Unless you are really certain as to how the jumper on the
motherboard must be set to perform the CMOS reset function, I would
strongly recommend you get someone with vision, who is familiar with
motherboards to help you with this task.

Unless you are familiar with the CMOS of a particular motherboard,
if you are totally blind, you will need sighted assistance to make
the desired changes to the CMOS.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

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From: "Carlos Medrano" <crlsmedrano99@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: JAWS for DOS


Hello

Can you put jaws for dos on a floppy disk? I need dos to wipe my CMOS and
the only way that I can do it is off a dos floppy.



Thanks,



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Re: Which Office version, which JAWS version?

Dave...
 

I believe JAWS 12 and upwards will work with Office 2010.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

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To: "jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 12:21
Subject: Which Office version, which JAWS version?


I have an old computer with Office 97 on it and another with Office
2002, Dell's OEM version I think, on it. I have a third machine with
no office on it at all, so I need to purchase one. I don't know what
my purchase options are, but I suspect I'll be stuck with Office 2010.
Which version of JAWS is required for O2010?

TIA

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Which Office version, which JAWS version?

Steve Matzura
 

I have an old computer with Office 97 on it and another with Office
2002, Dell's OEM version I think, on it. I have a third machine with
no office on it at all, so I need to purchase one. I don't know what
my purchase options are, but I suspect I'll be stuck with Office 2010.
Which version of JAWS is required for O2010?

TIA


Re: JAWS for DOS

Dave Durber
 

Dave and everyone:

I forgot to add in my previous posting, you can delete the CMOS by disconnecting the power cable from the computer, removing the lythium battery for a few seconds and then replacing it, then reconnecting the power cable. NOTE: If you do not disconnect the power cable, before removing the lythium battery, the CMOS will not be deleted/destroyed. This is because the power supply delivers a constant 5 Volts to the motherboard, to maintain the stored CMOS information. The Lythium battery, only comes into effect, when the power cable is disconnected from the computer system.

One other very important point I forgot to make, before changing the position of the BIOS jumper on the motherboard, you must, I repeat, you must disconnect the power cable from the computer system. Failure to do so, could cause serious damage to the motherboard, including blowing it altogether.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

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From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: JAWS for DOS


Dave,

Excellent advice.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:11
Subject: Re: JAWS for DOS


Hello Carlos:

Yes, you can put JAWS for DOS on a 1.44 floppy Disk.

To my knowledge, you cannot use JFD to access the CMOS for a motherboard in
any way nor, can you use JFD to delete/wipe/erase the CMOS settings for a
motherboard.

If you know where the jumper that resets the CMOS to factory defaults is
located on your motherboard, change the jumper setting and turn on your
computer so that the reset of the CMOS can be performed.

After the CMOS has been reset to factory defaults, turn off the computer and
return the jumper to its original location, otherwise, the CMOS will be
reset to factory defaults, each time you turn on your computer.

Unless you are really certain as to how the jumper on the motherboard must
be set to perform the CMOS reset function, I would strongly recommend you
get someone with vision, who is familiar with motherboards to help you with
this task.

Unless you are familiar with the CMOS of a particular motherboard, if you
are totally blind, you will need sighted assistance to make the desired
changes to the CMOS.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

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From: "Carlos Medrano" <crlsmedrano99@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: JAWS for DOS


Hello

Can you put jaws for dos on a floppy disk? I need dos to wipe my CMOS and
the only way that I can do it is off a dos floppy.



Thanks,



Carlos

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Re: help with office and web with JAWS 14

David Whitehead <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

hello there;
no, by default the ribbon feature is turned off.
I finally figured/read yur using windows 8,
the internet explorer, which is on the taskbar, or in the tile screan, isn't
real accessible.
if you want a normal looking internet explorer,

1, enter on computer,

2, enter on your hard drive,

3, navigate to,
program files (x86)
press enter,

4, now press the letter "i"=internet explorer, press enter.

5, now press the letter "i" until you hear;
iexplore.exe
note, you'll need a few presses of the letter "i".
once you find it, press the applications key,
up or down arrow to find send-to, sub menu, press enter,
down arrow enter on desktop create shortcut.
now you can go to desktop, and rename the icon which will bee name, shortcut
to iexplore.exe
you can rename using the f2key.
now the internet explorer will work normally.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of lauren snyder
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 10:53 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with office and web with JAWS 14

Is the Jaws ribbon that is automatically on and you have to turn it off? If
so, it sounds like I need to turn it off and how do you this?

I find either Jaws or windows 8 and not sure which it is very frustrating so
far as Jaws doesn't read me half the things I want or I can't find it
because windows 8 moved it.

Is windows 7 an option to consider and does it work fully with jaws 14?


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 8:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: help with office and web with JAWS 14

Exactly right. I recall the documentation implies it's an all-or-nothing
option, but it is not. I agree with Dave on learning the ribbon, and one of
the better courses I've seen on the subject came from FS.

Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 5:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: help with office and web with JAWS 14

JAWS Virtual Ribbon. It's described in the help files. It's basically a
crutch to help users avoid learning the ribbon menus used in most MS
applications. As you can tell I'm not at all a fan, and have just decided to
learn how to use the standard ribbons and have turned off the JAWS Virtual
Ribbon.

You can use the Settings Center for the default configuration or for
specific applications, and turn on the virtual ribbon as you wish. Just type
the word ribbon in the setting center edit field and then arrow down.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


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From: "lauren snyder" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 14:09
Subject: RE: help with office and web with JAWS 14


What is the Jaws ribbon feature?

Also, when I set up my account, it shows my full name and I only want to
show my first name, hwo do I change this?

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David
Whitehead
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 3:23 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with office and web with JAWS 14

hello;
if you're wanting to change the view in outlook 2010, either ascending or
descending,

Hello;
You need to change the view in outlook2010.

Do the following;

1, while in outlook2010,
Alt+v=view,
Now you need to tab through the ribbon settings, So, tab until you hear;
Arrangement toolbar, arrange by; Press enter, Now shift+tab until you hear,
I think it's settings, press enter, now tab, you will hear, sort.... enter
use arrow key to make choice, now tab okay, enter, and tab okay again,
enter.

hope this helps.
note, this assumes you're not using the jaws ribbon feature.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 2:05 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: help with office and web with JAWS 14

Have you tried CTRL alt down arrow?
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of lauren snyder
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 9:55 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: help with office and web with JAWS 14

Hi,

In 2010 pro Outlook, I want to change my view for instance from oldest to
the newest, I found the view tab, but when I down arrow to hear the combo
boxes, I don't hear Jaws read anything. How do I change this? Also, when I
launched internet explorer, I can't do the usual control O and type in the
web page I want or I don't see the list of choices like favoriets or how to
change the home page back to google instead of the current msn.

Please help.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bhavesh
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 12:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Thoughts on JAWS 14

I use a website called justrechargeit.com on a very regular bases to
recharge my mobile. On that website when i activate recharge link after
putting the appropriate amount in the input field above it, the form gets
dynamically updated, but the vurtual buffer does not. I have to press insert
esc to refresh the buffer. Where as in jaws12, i do not face this issue.
This makes me feel, that once any webb page loads, i have to refresh the
screen at least twice or 3 times while using jaws14..

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Subject: Re: Thoughts on JAWS 14
From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Date: 17/12/2012 10.34 pm

Dhavesh,

What exactly are your symptoms?

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bhavesh" <charmingbhavesh@gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 08:59
Subject: RE: Thoughts on JAWS 14


I stil face the issues with vertual buffer on some websites even after
updating to 1037 hotfix.

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Subject: Re: Thoughts on JAWS 14
From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
Date: 17/12/2012 8.20 pm

Dondi,

Just use the latest version as posted. That will carry all patches to date.
works pretty well from my perspective.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


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From: "Dondi" <zidnod63@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 13:02
Subject: Thoughts on JAWS 14


Hi Everyone,

I've been away for a while and was wondering what everybody's impression was
about JAWS 14? Does it work right out of the box or do I have to look for
some kind of a update on Freedom Scientific's web site to fix some problems?

Dondi
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Re: good registry cleaner

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

No, can't say I have. Maybe I'll Google that title, and see what pops up. Thanks.

Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ariel
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 2:10 PM
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Subject: Re: good registry cleaner

Hi Ted,
Have you looked on Bookshare? There's one cal_led "Managing the Windows
2000 Registry. I don't know how helpful it would be to you, but it looks
promising.
_On 12/18/2012 8:40 AM, Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) wrote:
Amen!!!! I may be a bit long in the tooth to be so ambitious, but I'd really like to find a good book on the registry, something like the work Peter Norton did on DOS years ago. In addition to being a crack programmer, he's a good teacher too.

Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ariel
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 8:19 AM
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Subject: Re: good registry cleaner

Hi everyone,
I'm just going to throw this out there. It's often not the fault of a program. Sometimes it's better to live certain parts of the computer if you do not know much about it specially your registry. Your registry is what keeps your computer running. The registry is what executes orders for your computer when certain events occur. There are various things which could eventually slow down your PC's performance. As some of you know, if you use your computer a lot, a lot of unnecessary and unwanted information gets written to your registry. Furthermore, updating, uninstalling, or installing software on your computer will affect your computers performance over time. Registry cleaners can of course help sort some of these issues, but you should always be aware of what you are doing. If you don't have experiences with the registry, leave it alone, or ask some one who has experience. The registry is dangerous if you don't know what you are doing. One mistake can cause your PC to stop working. I have seen various cases in which they didn't know what they were doing, so I had to reinstall Windows all over again. The point that I'm trying to make is that if you don't know much about the registry, please leave it alone. Always keep in mind that registry cleaners are less than perfect. There's always a chance that registry cleaners may remove needed data during the cleaning process. Leaving it alone will prevent you from unwanted headaches. However, if you really want to do it, than by all means do, but always do a registry backup, or Google it if you don't know what it is. Note that I'm not throwing it to bother anyone. For those interested in a good registry cleaner, check out the link below. It's an awesome one, but be sure to ask someone if you lack the knowledge, backup registry, or Google it before any actions. Thanks, A

http://www.wisecleaner.com/download.html
On 12/17/2012 7:05 PM, Robert Logue wrote:
Agree that CCleaner is potentially dangerous. However, You can
exclude files programs and folders as well as some items in the
registry. I wish FS would publish info about anything that should not
be touched by a registry cleaner.

one thing I don't like about CCleaner is that it does not give enough
information about the registry items it finds. I didn't find that
part of the program to helpful. It's good at cleaning unwanted files
but I leave the registry alone now.

Also, Despite all advice from blind users, I am unable to select items
in the registry to remove with the space bar and have to use the mouse
cursor instead.

Someone mentioned another program called Abexo. Interesting that
download.com does not have it. I wanted to see how popular it is and
what sort of reviews people have about Abexo. I found lots through a
web search but don't know the sources enough to trust them.

I just tried a couple programs that supposed to clean and optimize but
they were not accessible without scripting.
One was System Checkup 3.3 iolo technologies, LLC 12/5/2012 The other
was SlimCleaner Free


Bob

On 12/16/2012 12:35 PM, Aidan Maher wrote:
I also would like to no, since most of them seem to mess things up
rather than cleaning the necessary files. And also a drive wiper? But
just not CCleaner. That really is not good for jaws users, maybe
accessible, but it remove things you need and sometimes can affect
jaws also.

On 16/12/2012, cecropia64@att.net <cecropia64@att.net> wrote:
HI FOLKS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY GOOD SUGGESTIONS FOR AN ACCESIBLE
REGISTRY CLEANER THAT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE FREE OR AT LEAST HAS A
TRIAL VERSION. THANKS

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