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Re: good registry cleaner

Dave...
 

CCleaner is by far the best I've used. Very easy to understand the interface
and accessible.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:32
Subject: good registry cleaner


HI FOLKS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY GOOD SUGGESTIONS FOR AN ACCESIBLE
REGISTRY CLEANER THAT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE FREE OR AT LEAST HAS A TRIAL
VERSION. THANKS

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Re: JAWS for DOS

Dave...
 

Dave,

Excellent advice.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:11
Subject: Re: JAWS for DOS


Hello Carlos:

Yes, you can put JAWS for DOS on a 1.44 floppy Disk.

To my knowledge, you cannot use JFD to access the CMOS for a motherboard in
any way nor, can you use JFD to delete/wipe/erase the CMOS settings for a
motherboard.

If you know where the jumper that resets the CMOS to factory defaults is
located on your motherboard, change the jumper setting and turn on your
computer so that the reset of the CMOS can be performed.

After the CMOS has been reset to factory defaults, turn off the computer and
return the jumper to its original location, otherwise, the CMOS will be
reset to factory defaults, each time you turn on your computer.

Unless you are really certain as to how the jumper on the motherboard must
be set to perform the CMOS reset function, I would strongly recommend you
get someone with vision, who is familiar with motherboards to help you with
this task.

Unless you are familiar with the CMOS of a particular motherboard, if you
are totally blind, you will need sighted assistance to make the desired
changes to the CMOS.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos Medrano" <crlsmedrano99@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: JAWS for DOS


Hello

Can you put jaws for dos on a floppy disk? I need dos to wipe my CMOS and
the only way that I can do it is off a dos floppy.



Thanks,



Carlos

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Re: JAWS for DOS

Doris and Chris
 

I think you actually can use the more modern dos screenreaders like asap or vocal eyes under an NT environment, i.e. in a console or you can run your dos screenreader from a boot floppy and access your nt system that way as long as the floppy has a driver to read the ntfs file system on the nt box.

Doris

At 01:44 PM 12/17/2012 +0000, you wrote:
Good points. As I recall, you haven't been able to use a DOS screenreader in anything later than Win98. That's why I finally discontinued using my much-beloved ASAP.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 1:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS for DOS

Hello Carlos:

Yes, you can put JAWS for DOS on a 1.44 floppy Disk.

To my knowledge, you cannot use JFD to access the CMOS for a motherboard in any way nor, can you use JFD to delete/wipe/erase the CMOS settings for a motherboard.

If you know where the jumper that resets the CMOS to factory defaults is located on your motherboard, change the jumper setting and turn on your computer so that the reset of the CMOS can be performed.

After the CMOS has been reset to factory defaults, turn off the computer and return the jumper to its original location, otherwise, the CMOS will be reset to factory defaults, each time you turn on your computer.

Unless you are really certain as to how the jumper on the motherboard must be set to perform the CMOS reset function, I would strongly recommend you get someone with vision, who is familiar with motherboards to help you with this task.

Unless you are familiar with the CMOS of a particular motherboard, if you are totally blind, you will need sighted assistance to make the desired changes to the CMOS.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos Medrano" <crlsmedrano99@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: JAWS for DOS


Hello

Can you put jaws for dos on a floppy disk? I need dos to wipe my CMOS and
the only way that I can do it is off a dos floppy.



Thanks,



Carlos

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Re: unsubscribing

Doug
 

Jfw-unsubscribe@....

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Re: JAWS for DOS

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Good points. As I recall, you haven't been able to use a DOS screenreader in anything later than Win98. That's why I finally discontinued using my much-beloved ASAP.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 1:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS for DOS

Hello Carlos:

Yes, you can put JAWS for DOS on a 1.44 floppy Disk.

To my knowledge, you cannot use JFD to access the CMOS for a motherboard in any way nor, can you use JFD to delete/wipe/erase the CMOS settings for a motherboard.

If you know where the jumper that resets the CMOS to factory defaults is located on your motherboard, change the jumper setting and turn on your computer so that the reset of the CMOS can be performed.

After the CMOS has been reset to factory defaults, turn off the computer and return the jumper to its original location, otherwise, the CMOS will be reset to factory defaults, each time you turn on your computer.

Unless you are really certain as to how the jumper on the motherboard must be set to perform the CMOS reset function, I would strongly recommend you get someone with vision, who is familiar with motherboards to help you with this task.

Unless you are familiar with the CMOS of a particular motherboard, if you are totally blind, you will need sighted assistance to make the desired changes to the CMOS.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos Medrano" <crlsmedrano99@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: JAWS for DOS


Hello

Can you put jaws for dos on a floppy disk? I need dos to wipe my CMOS and
the only way that I can do it is off a dos floppy.



Thanks,



Carlos

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reading CMOS setup screen

Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 

I did this back in the middle '90s. Don't know if it would still work today:

Having a Braille embosser connected to the parallel (LPT1) output port, get into the CMOS setup program. Hit the printscreen key; make an arrow key--or anything else that might change the screen. Hit the printscreen key again. Compare the two printouts to see what you did. Mighty slow and a big waste of paper; but you can get the job done. Much less paper waste if you use a parallel speech synthesizer such as available in the Braille Blazer embosser.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS for DOS


Hello Carlos:

Yes, you can put JAWS for DOS on a 1.44 floppy Disk.

To my knowledge, you cannot use JFD to access the CMOS for a motherboard in any way nor, can you use JFD to delete/wipe/erase the CMOS settings for a motherboard.

If you know where the jumper that resets the CMOS to factory defaults is located on your motherboard, change the jumper setting and turn on your computer so that the reset of the CMOS can be performed.

After the CMOS has been reset to factory defaults, turn off the computer and return the jumper to its original location, otherwise, the CMOS will be reset to factory defaults, each time you turn on your computer.

Unless you are really certain as to how the jumper on the motherboard must be set to perform the CMOS reset function, I would strongly recommend you get someone with vision, who is familiar with motherboards to help you with this task.

Unless you are familiar with the CMOS of a particular motherboard, if you are totally blind, you will need sighted assistance to make the desired changes to the CMOS.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos Medrano" <crlsmedrano99@...>
To: <jfw@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: JAWS for DOS


Hello

Can you put jaws for dos on a floppy disk? I need dos to wipe my CMOS and
the only way that I can do it is off a dos floppy.



Thanks,



Carlos

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Re: antivirus and Jaws relationship

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

How big is SE? I am starting to suspect that what I got wasn't the Real McCoy.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 5:08 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: antivirus and Jaws relationship

when you just think security essentials is being downloaded, microsoft
essentials piggy backs it, it includes 2012 windows live mail, live
messenger, ms family safety, and ms writer. when installing of what you are
installing and what components.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ariel
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 12:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: antivirus and Jaws relationship

Hi,
Essentials is free. You can download it here:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/security-essentials-download
On 12/14/2012 2:27 PM, Harris.Robert@... wrote:
Here at work I'll keep these notes for later use, meanwhile my home
system has Norton, where can I get Microsoft Security Essentials and how
much is it, they want $50 for me to upgrade Norton.

Thanks for any

Bobby and Prince the blond taxicab driverdog






From: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@...>
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' <jfw@...>
Date: 12/13/2012 08:01 PM
Subject: RE: antivirus and Jaws relationship
Sent by: "Jfw" <jfw-bounces@...>



Three is a small number. There's also Esset's Nod32, which other listers
report is accessible. Meanwhile, there have been several recent reports
that
Avast is no longer accessible.

My security consultant has dropped Nod32 in favor of MS Essentials. So I
actually think the number is one. Not only is MS Essentials accessible,
but
more importantly, it does the job.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Ariel
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 8:46 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: antivirus and Jaws relationship

Hi,
Norton is definitely known for slow performance. I don't think it's that
accessible either. You have Three options, you can instal Microsoft
Security
Essentials AVG or Avast. All of them are free, but keep in mind that AVG
and
Avast have professional versions as well. Microsoft Security Essentials
and
AVG are quite accessible. I'm not sure how accessible Avast is, but you
could try it out. Thanks, A On 12/13/2012 7:33 PM, Farfar Carlson wrote:
Bobby,

If you have the choice, do not install Norton on your machine. I'm
sure it's a perfectly good anti-virus, but I've never heard of a
machine that didn't slow down due to all the hogging of resources for
which Norton is famous.
Go with MS Security Essentials, in my opinion.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: <Harris.Robert@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 15:00
Subject: Re: antivirus and Jaws relationship



We are about to upgrade to Anti-Virus Software Upgrade - Symantec
Endpoint Protection 12. Will that work OK?

Bobby and Prince






From: "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Date: 12/13/2012 04:55 PM
Subject: Re: antivirus and Jaws relationship Sent by: "Jfw"
<jfw-bounces@...>



microsoft security essentials works very well. jaws can announce the
process bar all the way through.
jaws can get the day to day definitions from windows updates.


-----Original Message-----
From: g user
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:11 PM
To: jfw@...
Subject: antivirus and Jaws relationship

Hi guys

Any suggestions on which antivirus software work well with JAWS? I
am currently experimenting with Avira but if you know any others
please let me know.
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Re: Thoughts on JAWS 14

Brian Albriton <autoharp747@...>
 

I could not activate or a change a combo box a couple of nights ago
and jaws thirteen had no problem with the same website. Other than
that, seems to be working pretty well.
Brian

On 12/16/12, Dondi <zidnod63@...> wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I've been away for a while and was wondering what everybody's impression
was
about JAWS 14? Does it work right out of the box or do I have to look for
some kind of a update on Freedom Scientific's web site to fix some
problems?

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Re: Thoughts on JAWS 14

emma goodwin <emma.sleeptalk@...>
 

I haven't experienced any problems up to now. Many people have and
some haven't so give it a try and then as Aidan said, check for the
latest update and I'm sure you'll be fine. I don't see any issues yet
but we all do different things with our computers.

On 12/16/12, Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@...> wrote:
Wel, it works quite wel, instal it and just check for updates in the
help menu. Then you will be good to go.

On 16/12/2012, Dondi <zidnod63@...> wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I've been away for a while and was wondering what everybody's impression
was
about JAWS 14? Does it work right out of the box or do I have to look for
some kind of a update on Freedom Scientific's web site to fix some
problems?

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Re: Thoughts on JAWS 14

Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@...>
 

Wel, it works quite wel, instal it and just check for updates in the
help menu. Then you will be good to go.

On 16/12/2012, Dondi <zidnod63@...> wrote:
Hi Everyone,

I've been away for a while and was wondering what everybody's impression
was
about JAWS 14? Does it work right out of the box or do I have to look for
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Re: crm systems

paul lemm
 

Hi,

I don't know how much help it is, but we are moving over to a cRM system at work later next year. I believe it is from sales force . I haven't yet tried the system as it is not yet ready/built for us yet but the IT team have told me that sales force build their products with accessibility like screen readers and jaws in mind. I'm not sure if this is just for the system they are building for us specifically or for all there systems. And until I get to test the system I won't know how accessible it is, but it might be worth doing a google search for more info about sales force and jaws.

Like I said I don't know if this in anyway helps but thought if nothing else it may just give you a starting point to systems that might work/help.

Paul lemm

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Christopher Stouton
Sent: 14 December 2012 04:39
To: jfw@...
Subject: crm systems

Hello, I was wondering if anyone could ask a rather hard jaws question? I’m looking for a job in the customer service and sales fields, where I’m having to tell the interviewers about jaws. however my question is, is there any crm, or call resource management systems jaws works with spacificly?
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Thoughts on JAWS 14

Dondi
 

Hi Everyone,

I've been away for a while and was wondering what everybody's impression was
about JAWS 14? Does it work right out of the box or do I have to look for
some kind of a update on Freedom Scientific's web site to fix some problems?

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Re: Installing Windows 8 independantly

Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@...>
 

Wel, I don't have it yet, so I don't no exactly, but the refresh
option should be located in pc settings as they call it now, or
control panel, but i don't no furder, I guess it will ask for a
warning and allow you to cansle if you wish, simular to a format. The
only thing that I don't like, if joseph is correct, that you con't
instal an upgrade if you go from windows7 to 8, microsoft says that in
that case you need to do a custom instal, unless if you can buy the
upgrade version wich you probibly did. But now this upgrade thing is
not available in all regions so that means some of us have to use a cd
from scratch wich means it must be a custom instal, that sucks, is
there no way to start the custom so jaws can help you out in the first
part. And the other thing I wunder, is that if you instal windows7,
will narrator also be available after the second reboot, or is that
only applying to windows8? I ask since when I got the setup assistant
before I couldn't manage to get it running at all.

On 16/12/2012, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@...> wrote:
Thanks for this, but, how do I refresh Windows 8?

Russell
Sent from my iMac running Mountain Lion!

On 2012-12-16, at 12:42 PM, Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@...> wrote:

This shouldn't be a problem for 14 in windows8, I think you must
remove jaws and then refresh, as the refresh only reset everything,
the option wich wipe it all off is more likely called reset. But to be
sure, first remove the vidio intercept components and then jaws after
that, you can use NVDA to help out as you need to close down jaws
before you begin this.

On 16/12/2012, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@...> wrote:
Hi Joseph,

Just to clarify. Once Windows 8 is up and running, what do I need to
do?
Do I uninstall Jaws 12 and 13 and then refresh Windows 8? How do I
refresh
Windows 8?

Will OpenBook 9 work in Windows 8?

Thanks,

Russell
Sent from my iMac running Mountain Lion!

On 2012-12-16, at 10:52 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
wrote:

Hi,
In the short term, yes, as you cannot remove video intercepp for JFW
12 and 13 under Windows 8. This causes some video driver issues, such
as no text on screen on some applications. To "fix" this, you need to
"refresh" Windows 8 (it can be done without sighted assistance).
//JL




On 12/16/12, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@...> wrote:
Hi Joseph,

Thanks for this! I'm afraid the download went a bit faster than I had
thought, and, I've already started the installation... I didn't update
any
drivers, and I didn't uninstall Jaws 12 and 13. Will this cause me
grief?

Thanks again.

Russell
Sent from my iMac running Mountain Lion!

On 2012-12-16, at 10:13 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
wrote:

Hi,
Yes, it can be done (or maybe not depending on installation method).
If you're upgrading, then you can use JFW for first part (upgrade
assistant, installation method selection and entering the product
key). If doing custom install, you need sighted assistance for fir st
part (booting to DVD, selecting region and language, entering product
key and so forth). After the first part, the computer will restart.
After a further reboot, you can start Narrator (Windows key+U, then
press SPACE on Narrator). Then go through the installation and you'll
be done.
Before you install Windows 8, update all your drivers (if possible)
and remove JAWS versions earlier than 14.
Cheers,
Joseph



On 12/16/12, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,

As we speak, I am downloading Windows 8 to my laptop running Windows
7.
I
purchased it online from MS for $39. My question is, has anyone
managed
to
install the Windows 8 update without sighted assistance? If so, any
tips?
Is Narrator available during the install?

Thanks for any advice!

I know, I'm a sucker for punishment!! LOL

Russell
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Re: Installing Windows 8 independantly

Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@...>
 

Thanks for this, but, how do I refresh Windows 8?

Russell
Sent from my iMac running Mountain Lion!

On 2012-12-16, at 12:42 PM, Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@...> wrote:

This shouldn't be a problem for 14 in windows8, I think you must
remove jaws and then refresh, as the refresh only reset everything,
the option wich wipe it all off is more likely called reset. But to be
sure, first remove the vidio intercept components and then jaws after
that, you can use NVDA to help out as you need to close down jaws
before you begin this.

On 16/12/2012, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@...> wrote:
Hi Joseph,

Just to clarify. Once Windows 8 is up and running, what do I need to do?
Do I uninstall Jaws 12 and 13 and then refresh Windows 8? How do I refresh
Windows 8?

Will OpenBook 9 work in Windows 8?

Thanks,

Russell
Sent from my iMac running Mountain Lion!

On 2012-12-16, at 10:52 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,
In the short term, yes, as you cannot remove video intercepp for JFW
12 and 13 under Windows 8. This causes some video driver issues, such
as no text on screen on some applications. To "fix" this, you need to
"refresh" Windows 8 (it can be done without sighted assistance).
//JL




On 12/16/12, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@...> wrote:
Hi Joseph,

Thanks for this! I'm afraid the download went a bit faster than I had
thought, and, I've already started the installation... I didn't update
any
drivers, and I didn't uninstall Jaws 12 and 13. Will this cause me
grief?

Thanks again.

Russell
Sent from my iMac running Mountain Lion!

On 2012-12-16, at 10:13 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
wrote:

Hi,
Yes, it can be done (or maybe not depending on installation method).
If you're upgrading, then you can use JFW for first part (upgrade
assistant, installation method selection and entering the product
key). If doing custom install, you need sighted assistance for fir st
part (booting to DVD, selecting region and language, entering product
key and so forth). After the first part, the computer will restart.
After a further reboot, you can start Narrator (Windows key+U, then
press SPACE on Narrator). Then go through the installation and you'll
be done.
Before you install Windows 8, update all your drivers (if possible)
and remove JAWS versions earlier than 14.
Cheers,
Joseph



On 12/16/12, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,

As we speak, I am downloading Windows 8 to my laptop running Windows
7.
I
purchased it online from MS for $39. My question is, has anyone
managed
to
install the Windows 8 update without sighted assistance? If so, any
tips?
Is Narrator available during the install?

Thanks for any advice!

I know, I'm a sucker for punishment!! LOL

Russell
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Re: good registry cleaner

Doris and Chris
 

The registry cleaner part of c-cleaner is good and free. Also, if you google for the free version of Abexo registry cleaner is this good also.

hth

Doris

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Re: Installing Windows 8 independantly

Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@...>
 

This shouldn't be a problem for 14 in windows8, I think you must
remove jaws and then refresh, as the refresh only reset everything,
the option wich wipe it all off is more likely called reset. But to be
sure, first remove the vidio intercept components and then jaws after
that, you can use NVDA to help out as you need to close down jaws
before you begin this.

On 16/12/2012, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@...> wrote:
Hi Joseph,

Just to clarify. Once Windows 8 is up and running, what do I need to do?
Do I uninstall Jaws 12 and 13 and then refresh Windows 8? How do I refresh
Windows 8?

Will OpenBook 9 work in Windows 8?

Thanks,

Russell
Sent from my iMac running Mountain Lion!

On 2012-12-16, at 10:52 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,
In the short term, yes, as you cannot remove video intercepp for JFW
12 and 13 under Windows 8. This causes some video driver issues, such
as no text on screen on some applications. To "fix" this, you need to
"refresh" Windows 8 (it can be done without sighted assistance).
//JL




On 12/16/12, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@...> wrote:
Hi Joseph,

Thanks for this! I'm afraid the download went a bit faster than I had
thought, and, I've already started the installation... I didn't update
any
drivers, and I didn't uninstall Jaws 12 and 13. Will this cause me
grief?

Thanks again.

Russell
Sent from my iMac running Mountain Lion!

On 2012-12-16, at 10:13 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
wrote:

Hi,
Yes, it can be done (or maybe not depending on installation method).
If you're upgrading, then you can use JFW for first part (upgrade
assistant, installation method selection and entering the product
key). If doing custom install, you need sighted assistance for fir st
part (booting to DVD, selecting region and language, entering product
key and so forth). After the first part, the computer will restart.
After a further reboot, you can start Narrator (Windows key+U, then
press SPACE on Narrator). Then go through the installation and you'll
be done.
Before you install Windows 8, update all your drivers (if possible)
and remove JAWS versions earlier than 14.
Cheers,
Joseph



On 12/16/12, Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,

As we speak, I am downloading Windows 8 to my laptop running Windows
7.
I
purchased it online from MS for $39. My question is, has anyone
managed
to
install the Windows 8 update without sighted assistance? If so, any
tips?
Is Narrator available during the install?

Thanks for any advice!

I know, I'm a sucker for punishment!! LOL

Russell
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Re: good registry cleaner

Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@...>
 

I also would like to no, since most of them seem to mess things up
rather than cleaning the necessary files. And also a drive wiper? But
just not CCleaner. That really is not good for jaws users, maybe
accessible, but it remove things you need and sometimes can affect
jaws also.

On 16/12/2012, cecropia64@... <cecropia64@...> wrote:
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REGISTRY CLEANER THAT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE FREE OR AT LEAST HAS A TRIAL
VERSION. THANKS

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good registry cleaner

cecropia64
 

HI FOLKS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY GOOD SUGGESTIONS FOR AN ACCESIBLE REGISTRY CLEANER THAT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE FREE OR AT LEAST HAS A TRIAL VERSION. THANKS