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Re: [Bulk] What does this Bulk mean that people are putting insubject lines?

Adrian Spratt
 

So, Dave, do you have a blank space for "Eat more fiber," too?

I'd be reluctant to silence a word such as "bulk" that has so many meanings
and comes up in so many contexts.

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On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 4:52 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] What does this Bulk mean that people are putting
insubject lines?

Daniel,

It originates from the actual mail server, which marks mail that it suspects

of being Spam. You can change your own server's propensity to do this, but
not someone else's . So when you see it, it may have come from the first
sender, or any sender in the thread.

Removing manually is a real pain, and I never bother.

I just add [bulk] into the JAWS dictionary and have a blank space in the
pronounce field. Then I never hear it when the subject is being read. I also

do that with the other common [] items that show up on some lists.

I have my mail filters set up to first allow legitimate mail from my lists
to flow into the appropriate folders, even if the [bulk] is in the subject.
Then any remaining messages with [bulk] in the subject are dumped into a
bulk folder for me to quickly peruse and delete. Works very well.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel McGee" <venables134@btinternet.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:29
Subject: [Bulk] What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject
lines?


Hi all, as you have guessed subject says it all.

I was just wanting to know since I'm not sure of the terminology of what
this means in an email concept.

I don't want too many answers because the last thing I want to do is flood
the list with the same wording etc so once I get a few answers I'll let you
all know so the thread can be stopped.

I'm sure it's obvious once someone tells me but at the moment I haven't got
a clue! LOL

Many Thanks

Daniel
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Re: [Bulk] What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject lines?

Dave...
 

Daniel,

It originates from the actual mail server, which marks mail that it suspects
of being Spam. You can change your own server's propensity to do this, but
not someone else's . So when you see it, it may have come from the first
sender, or any sender in the thread.

Removing manually is a real pain, and I never bother.

I just add [bulk] into the JAWS dictionary and have a blank space in the
pronounce field. Then I never hear it when the subject is being read. I also
do that with the other common [] items that show up on some lists.

I have my mail filters set up to first allow legitimate mail from my lists
to flow into the appropriate folders, even if the [bulk] is in the subject.
Then any remaining messages with [bulk] in the subject are dumped into a
bulk folder for me to quickly peruse and delete. Works very well.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel McGee" <venables134@btinternet.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:29
Subject: [Bulk] What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject
lines?


Hi all, as you have guessed subject says it all.

I was just wanting to know since I'm not sure of the terminology of what
this means in an email concept.

I don't want too many answers because the last thing I want to do is flood
the list with the same wording etc so once I get a few answers I'll let you
all know so the thread can be stopped.

I'm sure it's obvious once someone tells me but at the moment I haven't got
a clue! LOL

Many Thanks

Daniel
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Re: Select A Graphic Solved.

Dave...
 

Spence,

Weirder and Weirder,

I opened default.jkm (from the Shared Settings Folder) and there was a lot
of stuff there, and sure enough your keystroke -- and a few more that do not
show up, as you said.

Good sleuthing, but it makes me even more nervous now that FS may well have
lost control of JAWS.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Spencer McLean" <smclean@csy.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 12:08
Subject: Select A Graphic Solved.


Hi:

So I threw all the .jkms, .jsses and so on to Linux so I do a grep on all
of
them, to search for Select A Graphic and I found it in default.jkm.
Default.JKM has a ton of commands in it that don't show up in Keyboard
Manager. So I edited default.jkm with Notepad, changed the keystroke
manually,
rebooted Jaws and woohoo, joy!

So in case anyone ever wants to change the keystroke of a command that
doesn't show up in the Keyboard Manager of default.jkm, try scrolling
through
default.jkm in Notepad and it should be there. :)

Spence


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Re: What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject lines?

Marsha <marcatony@...>
 

Hi
A person can always delete Bulk from the subject before he/she sends the
message.

Marsha


Re: What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject lines?

Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
 

Thanks for explaining it only appears at times,I thought the sender was
perhaps a member of many lists and it was being sent to all at once, now we
are getting something new about scrubbing, an attachment has been scrubbed I
have looked back at older Posts and this seems to be comparatively new
regards dorothy?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: 08 August 2011 19:14
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject
lines?

it means eat more fiber.

Actually, it's probably just something the mailing list software
inserts, not something people are typing.


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Select A Graphic Solved.

Spencer McLean <smclean@...>
 

Hi:

So I threw all the .jkms, .jsses and so on to Linux so I do a grep on all of them, to search for Select A Graphic and I found it in default.jkm. Default.JKM has a ton of commands in it that don't show up in Keyboard Manager. So I edited default.jkm with Notepad, changed the keystroke manually, rebooted Jaws and woohoo, joy!

So in case anyone ever wants to change the keystroke of a command that doesn't show up in the Keyboard Manager of default.jkm, try scrolling through default.jkm in Notepad and it should be there. :)

Spence


Re: What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject lines?

kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Eat more fiber? Hahaha. You are so funny!
Thanks for the explination nonetheless.


kimsansong@aol.com

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: 08 August, 2011 11:14 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject
lines?

it means eat more fiber.

Actually, it's probably just something the mailing list software inserts,
not something people are typing.


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Re: What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject lines?

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

it means eat more fiber.

Actually, it's probably just something the mailing list software inserts, not something people are typing.


Re: Real Speak Solo

Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
 

Hello interesting, I think those real speak voices came with a version of
jaws that had 2 cd's I only ever loaded 1 cd, but from what you say you
downloaded them. I know many use the british voices,but I have noted they
soon move back to eloquence, it being faster or for other reasons. I heard
one in particular was thought to be awful"like a public schoolboy who had a
swollen mouth", I used to use british voices with my ocr,it is not open book
but again they did not work as well as the voice text ones
Of course it is a matter of choice regards dorothy

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On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: 08 August 2011 18:07
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Real Speak Solo

I may have missed earlier, but I just noticed several Real Speak Solo
voices. I ran the tests, picked one, downloaded it, and installed it.
Clearly, I can switch to it. I don't think I want it to be my default
synthesizer. I need something more responsive, like Eloquence.
I thought there was a setting in JAWS such that when one uses the Say All
command, the synthesizer automatically switches to a preselected
synthesizer.
In this case, for Say All, I would like to try Samantha, the Real Speak
voice that seemed the best to me.
I checked in Settings Center, but I couldn't find what I was looking for,
namely, a place to tell JAWS what synthesizer to use in Say All.
I also checked under Voice Profiles. No joy there either. I checked under
"Help" for synthesizer, and didn't find anything. Perhaps I'm just dreaming
about this option. Clearly, there is a disconnect somewhere.


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Re: Real Speak Solo

Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
 

it is there under voices profile.

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 12:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Real Speak Solo

I may have missed earlier, but I just noticed several Real Speak Solo voices. I ran the tests, picked one, downloaded it, and installed it.
Clearly, I can switch to it. I don't think I want it to be my default synthesizer. I need something more responsive, like Eloquence.
I thought there was a setting in JAWS such that when one uses the Say All command, the synthesizer automatically switches to a preselected synthesizer.
In this case, for Say All, I would like to try Samantha, the Real Speak voice that seemed the best to me.
I checked in Settings Center, but I couldn't find what I was looking for, namely, a place to tell JAWS what synthesizer to use in Say All.
I also checked under Voice Profiles. No joy there either. I checked under "Help" for synthesizer, and didn't find anything. Perhaps I'm just dreaming about this option. Clearly, there is a disconnect somewhere.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject lines?

Daniel McGee <venables134@...>
 

Hi all, as you have guessed subject says it all.

I was just wanting to know since I'm not sure of the terminology of what this means in an email concept.

I don't want too many answers because the last thing I want to do is flood the list with the same wording etc so once I get a few answers I'll let you all know so the thread can be stopped.

I'm sure it's obvious once someone tells me but at the moment I haven't got a clue! LOL

Many Thanks

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Real Speak Solo

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

I may have missed earlier, but I just noticed several Real Speak Solo voices. I ran the tests, picked one, downloaded it, and installed it.
Clearly, I can switch to it. I don't think I want it to be my default synthesizer. I need something more responsive, like Eloquence.
I thought there was a setting in JAWS such that when one uses the Say All command, the synthesizer automatically switches to a preselected synthesizer.
In this case, for Say All, I would like to try Samantha, the Real Speak voice that seemed the best to me.
I checked in Settings Center, but I couldn't find what I was looking for, namely, a place to tell JAWS what synthesizer to use in Say All.
I also checked under Voice Profiles. No joy there either. I checked under "Help" for synthesizer, and didn't find anything. Perhaps I'm just dreaming about this option. Clearly, there is a disconnect somewhere.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
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Suite 500
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ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE.
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Re: [Bulk] Select A Graphic.

Adrian Spratt
 

Spence and Dave,

Using insert-control-g is a great tip for navigating Audible.com and other
websites. I just experimented with it. I have been navigating Audible by
pressing g, but this is much more efficient.

This subject gets even more curious. I speculated that creation of a
graphics list in IE might be an accidental byproduct of the way the command
works, but that isn't the case. It doesn't even try to automatically label
graphics.

As another experiment, I pressed insert-g (activates graphics labeler) on
some of the graphics in the list, and JAWS didn't respond at all. Then I
escaped out of the list and used the search command to land back on a
graphic. JAWS announced focus wasn't on a graphic, even though I confirmed
it was.

I have long been stymied by the graphics labeler, and my perplexity only
deepens.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Spencer McLean
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 11:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Select A Graphic.

Hi Dave:

I see your confusion. In Default.JKM, ctrl+insert+G is auto select graphics;
I see that now. Whatever auto label graphics is... But if you're in IE, and
you're on a webpage with graphics, CTRL+INSERT+G pulls up a list of graphics
you can surf to on the page, just like INSERT+F5, F6 and F7 do for forms,
links, headings, etc. and just like CTRL+INSERT+Z, X, R pull up lists of
divisions, checkboxes, radio buttons. I can't find any of these keystrokes
in any of the .JKMs.

Might've caused confusion by calling it Select A Graphic, but that's the
title of the list box that's pulled up with CTRL+INSERT+G.

So just to be ultra clear, in IE, CTRL+INSERT+G creates a list box of all
the available graphic links on the page. And I'd like to be able to re-task
that to something else. But it, along with its brethren, CTRL+INSERT+Z, X,
R, Q, C, P, and O, aren't in default.jkm, or Internet-explorer.jkm, at least
not that I can see. I checked the other logical .JKMs too and I didn't see
them. But they have to be somewhere!

Spence

On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Farfar on Laptop wrote:

Spence,

Now after reading your original inquiry, I admit I'm stumped. In one part
you are asking about the keyboard manager and finding the Insert+Ctrl+G
keystroke for the purpose of changing it.

That keystroke is "Auto Label Graphics" -- not select graphic.

Then you ask about navigation keys in Internet Explorer and why the
keystroke to select graphics must be so difficult.

Well in Internet Explorer the keystroke to select a graphic on a web page is
simply G. Perhaps you already know that.

There is no keystroke that I'm aware of like forms list, links, list, or
headings list to list all graphics on a web page.

Don't know how this relates to Insert+Ctrl+G, and perhaps you can illuminate
us on that point?

Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough
for my comfort to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay
Area. But I'll try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Spencer McLean" <smclean@csy.ca>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 22:34
Subject: [Bulk] Select A Graphic.

Hi:

I've been searching high and low for where, in Keyboard Manager, one changes
Select A Graphic from the carpal-tunnel-inducing ctrl+insert+G -- at least
on my keyboard anyway -- to something more reasonable. Select a Link/Form
Field/Frame/Heading etc. are there under IE, but no Select a Graphic. Can
anyone save my poor wrist by pointing me in the right direction?

Apologies if this isn't a list for such questions.

Spence


Re: [Bulk] Select A Graphic.

Dave...
 

Spence,

Well, I looked and cannot find it, either. I can't even find the other ones,
like Ctrl+Insert+Z or Ctrl+Insert+L. They must be in a hidden, or disguised
file somewhere, or else hard-coded into the scripts. Have you asked FS Tech
Support for help on this?

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Spencer McLean" <smclean@csy.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 8:28
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Select A Graphic.


Hi Dave:

I see your confusion. In Default.JKM, ctrl+insert+G is auto select
graphics; I see that now. Whatever auto label graphics is... But if you're
in
IE, and you're on a webpage with graphics, CTRL+INSERT+G pulls up a list of
graphics you can surf to on the page, just like INSERT+F5, F6 and F7 do for
forms, links, headings, etc. and just like CTRL+INSERT+Z, X, R pull up lists
of divisions, checkboxes, radio buttons. I can't find any of these
keystrokes
in any of the .JKMs.

Might've caused confusion by calling it Select A Graphic, but that's the
title of the list box that's pulled up with CTRL+INSERT+G.

So just to be ultra clear, in IE, CTRL+INSERT+G creates a list box of
all the available graphic links on the page. And I'd like to be able to
re-task that to something else. But it, along with its brethren,
CTRL+INSERT+Z, X, R, Q, C, P, and O, aren't in default.jkm, or
Internet-explorer.jkm, at least not that I can see. I checked the other
logical .JKMs too and I didn't see them. But they have to be somewhere!

Spence


On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Farfar on Laptop wrote:

Spence,

Now after reading your original inquiry, I admit I'm stumped. In one part
you are asking about the keyboard manager and finding the Insert+Ctrl+G
keystroke for the purpose of changing it.

That keystroke is "Auto Label Graphics" -- not select graphic.

Then you ask about navigation keys in Internet Explorer and why the
keystroke to select graphics must be so difficult.

Well in Internet Explorer the keystroke to select a graphic on a web page
is
simply G. Perhaps you already know that.

There is no keystroke that I'm aware of like forms list, links, list, or
headings list to list all graphics on a web page.

Don't know how this relates to Insert+Ctrl+G, and perhaps you can
illuminate
us on that point?

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my
comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Spencer McLean" <smclean@csy.ca>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 22:34
Subject: [Bulk] Select A Graphic.


Hi:

I've been searching high and low for where, in Keyboard Manager, one
changes Select A Graphic from the carpal-tunnel-inducing ctrl+insert+G --
at
least on my keyboard anyway -- to something more reasonable. Select a
Link/Form Field/Frame/Heading etc. are there under IE, but no Select a
Graphic. Can anyone save my poor wrist by pointing me in the right
direction?

Apologies if this isn't a list for such questions.

Spence


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Re: [Bulk] Select A Graphic.

Dave...
 

Spence,

Well, shine my shoes! Had no idea that JAWS had added so many other
list-related keystrokes. Odd that they would have used the "Auto Label
Graphics" keystroke to mean something completely different in IE. Just goes
to show that some parts of Freedom Scientific are not communicating with
others. Don't even ask me about whether the Excel folks are talking to the
Virtual Ribbon folks -- they are proving that they are not on speaking
terms.


In any case, I'll look around a bit to see if I can find where/how they are
re-defining that keystroke.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Spencer McLean" <smclean@csy.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 8:28
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Select A Graphic.


Hi Dave:

I see your confusion. In Default.JKM, ctrl+insert+G is auto select
graphics; I see that now. Whatever auto label graphics is... But if you're
in
IE, and you're on a webpage with graphics, CTRL+INSERT+G pulls up a list of
graphics you can surf to on the page, just like INSERT+F5, F6 and F7 do for
forms, links, headings, etc. and just like CTRL+INSERT+Z, X, R pull up lists
of divisions, checkboxes, radio buttons. I can't find any of these
keystrokes
in any of the .JKMs.

Might've caused confusion by calling it Select A Graphic, but that's the
title of the list box that's pulled up with CTRL+INSERT+G.

So just to be ultra clear, in IE, CTRL+INSERT+G creates a list box of
all the available graphic links on the page. And I'd like to be able to
re-task that to something else. But it, along with its brethren,
CTRL+INSERT+Z, X, R, Q, C, P, and O, aren't in default.jkm, or
Internet-explorer.jkm, at least not that I can see. I checked the other
logical .JKMs too and I didn't see them. But they have to be somewhere!

Spence


On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Farfar on Laptop wrote:

Spence,

Now after reading your original inquiry, I admit I'm stumped. In one part
you are asking about the keyboard manager and finding the Insert+Ctrl+G
keystroke for the purpose of changing it.

That keystroke is "Auto Label Graphics" -- not select graphic.

Then you ask about navigation keys in Internet Explorer and why the
keystroke to select graphics must be so difficult.

Well in Internet Explorer the keystroke to select a graphic on a web page
is
simply G. Perhaps you already know that.

There is no keystroke that I'm aware of like forms list, links, list, or
headings list to list all graphics on a web page.

Don't know how this relates to Insert+Ctrl+G, and perhaps you can
illuminate
us on that point?

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my
comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Spencer McLean" <smclean@csy.ca>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 22:34
Subject: [Bulk] Select A Graphic.


Hi:

I've been searching high and low for where, in Keyboard Manager, one
changes Select A Graphic from the carpal-tunnel-inducing ctrl+insert+G --
at
least on my keyboard anyway -- to something more reasonable. Select a
Link/Form Field/Frame/Heading etc. are there under IE, but no Select a
Graphic. Can anyone save my poor wrist by pointing me in the right
direction?

Apologies if this isn't a list for such questions.

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Re: [Bulk] Select A Graphic.

Spencer McLean <smclean@...>
 

Hi Dave:

I see your confusion. In Default.JKM, ctrl+insert+G is auto select graphics; I see that now. Whatever auto label graphics is... But if you're in IE, and you're on a webpage with graphics, CTRL+INSERT+G pulls up a list of graphics you can surf to on the page, just like INSERT+F5, F6 and F7 do for forms, links, headings, etc. and just like CTRL+INSERT+Z, X, R pull up lists of divisions, checkboxes, radio buttons. I can't find any of these keystrokes in any of the .JKMs.

Might've caused confusion by calling it Select A Graphic, but that's the title of the list box that's pulled up with CTRL+INSERT+G.

So just to be ultra clear, in IE, CTRL+INSERT+G creates a list box of all the available graphic links on the page. And I'd like to be able to re-task that to something else. But it, along with its brethren, CTRL+INSERT+Z, X, R, Q, C, P, and O, aren't in default.jkm, or Internet-explorer.jkm, at least not that I can see. I checked the other logical .JKMs too and I didn't see them. But they have to be somewhere!

Spence

On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Farfar on Laptop wrote:

Spence,

Now after reading your original inquiry, I admit I'm stumped. In one part
you are asking about the keyboard manager and finding the Insert+Ctrl+G
keystroke for the purpose of changing it.

That keystroke is "Auto Label Graphics" -- not select graphic.

Then you ask about navigation keys in Internet Explorer and why the
keystroke to select graphics must be so difficult.

Well in Internet Explorer the keystroke to select a graphic on a web page is
simply G. Perhaps you already know that.

There is no keystroke that I'm aware of like forms list, links, list, or
headings list to list all graphics on a web page.

Don't know how this relates to Insert+Ctrl+G, and perhaps you can illuminate
us on that point?

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Spencer McLean" <smclean@csy.ca>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 22:34
Subject: [Bulk] Select A Graphic.


Hi:

I've been searching high and low for where, in Keyboard Manager, one
changes Select A Graphic from the carpal-tunnel-inducing ctrl+insert+G -- at
least on my keyboard anyway -- to something more reasonable. Select a
Link/Form Field/Frame/Heading etc. are there under IE, but no Select a
Graphic. Can anyone save my poor wrist by pointing me in the right
direction?

Apologies if this isn't a list for such questions.

Spence


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Re: Select A Graphic.

Spencer McLean <smclean@...>
 

My keyboard has the insert key at an odd position. It's on a row with the function keys, near the end. It's not a matter of life or death or anything, but I'd love to re-task it to something simpler. Searching Audible.com with list graphics makes the site so accessible!

On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Spencer,

Your question is about a JAWS feature. I don't have a direct answer, but I'm
curious why you find this particular key combo such a strain, as compared
to, say, insert-alt-w for virtualizing the current window. With my right
hand, I put my little finger on the numbpad's insert key and my thumb on the
control key. My left hand's forefinger goes on the g. If you're using the
laptop keyboard layout, I'd think it's even easier on the hands.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Spencer McLean
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 1:35 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Select A Graphic.

Hi:

I've been searching high and low for where, in Keyboard Manager, one

changes Select A Graphic from the carpal-tunnel-inducing ctrl+insert+G -- at

least on my keyboard anyway -- to something more reasonable. Select a
Link/Form Field/Frame/Heading etc. are there under IE, but no Select a
Graphic. Can anyone save my poor wrist by pointing me in the right
direction?

Apologies if this isn't a list for such questions.

Spence


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Re: jaws and Microsoft reader

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I was going to. That's what I usually do when pursuing a potentially
interesting download. Guess I should have gone ahead, but wanted to
know what I was looking up. I'll continue to follow the thread, as I've
already seen at least one of my questions pop up.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 9:48 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: jaws and Microsoft reader

Ted, typing "Microsoft Reader" into Google, got me the following as
the very first search result.
http://www.microsoft.com/READER/

and, they explain what it is on that page.

At 08:46 AM 8/8/2011, you wrote:
Okay, the suspense is killing me! What is Microsoft reader? Is it an
updated version of the old viewer that allowed you to read files for
programs you don't have?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 8:32 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: jaws and Microsoft reader

I get the same help box telling me about jaws. control w and so on.
Nothing
specific for reader.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Smart
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 6:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: jaws and Microsoft reader

What happens when you press JawsKey+H from within the program? If
there are scripts written for it which attach to hotkeys, they will
be listed there.

At 09:47 PM 8/7/2011, you wrote:
Does anyone knows about hotkeys for Microsoft reader with using
jaws?
Hope
this question is allow. Do not want any email telling me is not.

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Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] JAWS and Safe mode in Windows

Dave...
 

Curtis,

You wrote (way down at the bottom):

"Just for the record I would like people to know that I'm not the original
author of this file I just recieved it from a list of a class that I was
in"

Completely understood. I did not at all confuse your name with that of the
author of the zip file. That person was clearly not expressing themselves in
a manner like you.

If I did anything to promote that line of thinking then I apologize. However
I can't do anything about others who might jump to conclusions without
carefully examining the evidence.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: <cjackson102@cox.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 7:31
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] Re: JAWS and Safe mode in Windows



---- "Lisle wrote:
Thanks a bunch, Dave. I just sent it home, but will not bother with it
now, for all the reasons yu stated. Too bad, though, as it remains a good
idea. In the old days I always included a copy of my screenreader on a
rescue or boot disk, so I could get out of whatever jam I was in. Ah,
nostalgia! All it took then was undoing whatever change I had just made.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 12:41 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: JAWS and Safe mode in Windows

All,

I'm not going to use this registry file on any computer I own for the
following reasons:

1. It was not stated but is written in the readme file that this is only
for
Windows 7.
2. The readme file is so pporly written that I just don't trust the author
if they can't take the time to write coherently (that's prejudice I know,
but that's the way I judge people -- the way they write).
3. Visiting this person's MySpace page causes me great concern over their
outlook on life, in particular a song on the play list with the title:
"Donald Duck - **** you in the ***"

I've deleted this zip file from my computer and would not take a chance
screwing up my registry with it.

You decide on your own if you think it's worth the risk.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my
comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Georges Zeinoun" <george.zaynoun@comhem.se>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 20:29
Subject: [Bulk] Re: JAWS and Safe mode in Windows


I want it as well, is it impossible for somebody to type the link to it
in a message or send the file to me?

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Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] IE9 and typing web addresses

Dave...
 

Gezim,

Yes.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gezim Rexha" <gezim_rexha@hotmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 6:55
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: IE9 and typing web addresses


Dave,

Do you mean turning autoforms mode off in JAWS?

Gezim

-----Original Message-----
From: Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 2:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: IE9 and typing web addresses

Gezim,

This happens all the time for me even with IE7. Arrowing through edit boxes
does tend to get you "stuck" in a list of suggested entries. A couple
points:

1. Simply press Esc and Tab away from that field.
2. Avoid using the arrow if you can, and stick to the Tab key.

I'm pretty sure that if you turn off Auto Forms mode this problem will go
away. However if you like Auto Forms mode then I think you can desensitize
JAWS reaction to these edit fields by changing the
Navigation Quick Key Delay time in the auto forms mode settings dialog.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gezim Rexha" <gezim_rexha@hotmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 4:20
Subject: [Bulk] Re: IE9 and typing web addresses


Hi David,

Yes, any edit box in any web page. I apologize for not being able to explain
it properly, but I really find it annoying that whenever I am about to enter
some text, and if I accidentally arrow down, it predicts the text, and I can
read, for example, all what I had searched earlier in Google.

Regards,
Gezim

-----Original Message-----
From: David Bailes
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:19 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Re: IE9 and typing web addresses

Hi Gezim,
you asked how to switch off autocomplete mode when typing in the edit field.
Which edit field do you mean? Is it any edit box in a web page?

David.

original message:
Hi David,

And is there a way how to turn off autocomplete mode when typing in the edit
field?

Regards,
Gezim

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