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Re: [Bulk] [Bulk] What does this Bulk mean that people are putting insubjectlines?

Dave...
 

Adrian,

Actually I've blanked out the word: left bracket bulk right bracket. I've
included the brackets to make it very unique to the version that appears in
the subject line.

If I Hadn't done that, then I would have always heard left bracket right
bracket and that alone would have driven me crazy.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 13:58
Subject: [Bulk] RE: [Bulk] What does this Bulk mean that people are putting
insubjectlines?


So, Dave, do you have a blank space for "Eat more fiber," too?

I'd be reluctant to silence a word such as "bulk" that has so many meanings
and comes up in so many contexts.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 4:52 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] What does this Bulk mean that people are putting
insubject lines?

Daniel,

It originates from the actual mail server, which marks mail that it suspects

of being Spam. You can change your own server's propensity to do this, but
not someone else's . So when you see it, it may have come from the first
sender, or any sender in the thread.

Removing manually is a real pain, and I never bother.

I just add [bulk] into the JAWS dictionary and have a blank space in the
pronounce field. Then I never hear it when the subject is being read. I also

do that with the other common [] items that show up on some lists.

I have my mail filters set up to first allow legitimate mail from my lists
to flow into the appropriate folders, even if the [bulk] is in the subject.
Then any remaining messages with [bulk] in the subject are dumped into a
bulk folder for me to quickly peruse and delete. Works very well.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel McGee" <venables134@btinternet.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:29
Subject: [Bulk] What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject
lines?


Hi all, as you have guessed subject says it all.

I was just wanting to know since I'm not sure of the terminology of what
this means in an email concept.

I don't want too many answers because the last thing I want to do is flood
the list with the same wording etc so once I get a few answers I'll let you
all know so the thread can be stopped.

I'm sure it's obvious once someone tells me but at the moment I haven't got
a clue! LOL

Many Thanks

Daniel
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Re: [Bulk] Select A Graphic Solved.

Dave...
 

Computer has been ordered, so still a few weeks away from jumping out of a
Windows 7.

I wouldn't put too much into the unlucky number 13. If they do what some
companies do they'll skip and go right on to 14. But if they do release
version 13, it can't be any worse than 12, can it?

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dorothy" <Dorothy.ingram-gorban@zen.co.uk>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 15:10
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Select A Graphic Solved.


More nervous ? No you were moving to windows 7 ages ago for the sake of
your company do not let jaws madness put you off,anyway with a number like
13 jaws next version will have to be good,it would never live it down if it
filled this list with disasters would it? ---- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: Select A Graphic Solved.


Spence,

Weirder and Weirder,

I opened default.jkm (from the Shared Settings Folder) and there was a lot
of stuff there, and sure enough your keystroke -- and a few more that do
not
show up, as you said.

Good sleuthing, but it makes me even more nervous now that FS may well
have
lost control of JAWS.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my
comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Spencer McLean" <smclean@csy.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 12:08
Subject: Select A Graphic Solved.


Hi:

So I threw all the .jkms, .jsses and so on to Linux so I do a grep on
all
of
them, to search for Select A Graphic and I found it in default.jkm.
Default.JKM has a ton of commands in it that don't show up in Keyboard
Manager. So I edited default.jkm with Notepad, changed the keystroke
manually,
rebooted Jaws and woohoo, joy!

So in case anyone ever wants to change the keystroke of a command that
doesn't show up in the Keyboard Manager of default.jkm, try scrolling
through
default.jkm in Notepad and it should be there. :)

Spence


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My Jaws speaks off topic, it uh, er, I mean, it meanders

ohio1803@...
 

My JAWS software, it meanders.

What can I do about it. Is there a keyboard shortcut?
I cannot find one in the Help Topics.

One minute I am working on reading email about Safe Mode, and then, whoops!
JAWS is talking about what is Off Topic. and then there are many messages about what is off topic.

I wish we had a 401K that would accrue value with each off topic thread message in a message from another topic originally.

But the stock market is crashing around us anyhow.
So, JAWS, and JAWS users, you just all can talk about whatever you want to, as far as I am concerned.

One thing I do like about Windows Live Mail 2011 version. IT puts all the messages with the same heading into a group. I never had that before in my XP version. And I like that now I can and often do, a BULK DELETE all the messages that share the same heading. Because I am short on time, and have my own short little attention span, too. And I do not think I want to read all of them, so bye bye they go.

Unless of course I start to worry, well, did they talk about something more than what is implied in that topic?

What? Me worry?
Alfred E. Newman, come home, and meet E.T.

My apologies for the levity implied and directed within the above text.
It was intended to only help us all have a collective blind tech users Rodney King moment.

Thanks.
Rik James


CTRL + up arrow, CTRL + down arrow, JAWS has funny behavior

ohio1803@...
 

They still say it is the same for Standard Windows Keystrokes in Help Topics
CTRL + UP and CTRL + DOWN

In My JAWS 12, using both Windows 7 or XP machines
In a rich text or or plain text whether it is in an email or in a Wordpad file I have funny results. Do you?

When I use CTRL + up arrow to read the previous paragraph.
Or when I use CTRL + down arrow to read the next paragraph.

I will find that instead of reading the next paragraph, instead JAWS will just speak the entire text from the top of the file or top of the email messages.

I can stop it and read a line at a time and it works just fine.
but using my old reliable CTRL + UP and CTRL + DOWN, I am often irritated by this behavior.

I could say that it is similarly funny behavior when trying ALT + UP and ALT + DOWN to read a sentence at a time.
But I will just leave it there.

Is there a suggestion or a fix?
Or am I just an individual who is the only one to whom this is occurring?

One note. This does not seem to happen when navigating my text on a web page or in a Microsoft Word document.
Just in Wordpad and in my Email messages using Windows Live Mail of a rich text or plain text type of message.

Thanks.
Rik
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friend using JAWS and backup

Lynn Golightly <vgolight@...>
 

I'm not sure the first e-mail went through.
Am having computer problems.



Good Evening List,



My totally blind friend wanted to back up his computer independently
with

JAWS rather than having my sighted husband help him. He has an
unbootable

sata drive in theory has been backed up with Casper 7. The question is
how

does my friend restore this to a new drive?

Thanks.

Vicky Lynn Golightly



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Friend and back up program and JAWS

Lynn Golightly <vgolight@...>
 

Good Evening List,



My totally blind friend wanted to back up his computer independently
with

JAWS rather than having my sighted husband help him. He has an
unbootable

sata drive in theory has been backed up with Casper 7. The question is
how

does my friend restore this to a new drive?

Thanks.

Vicky Lynn Golightly



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Re: Select A Graphic Solved.

Dorothy <Dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
 

More nervous ? No you were moving to windows 7 ages ago for the sake of your company do not let jaws madness put you off,anyway with a number like 13 jaws next version will have to be good,it would never live it down if it filled this list with disasters would it? ---- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: Select A Graphic Solved.


Spence,

Weirder and Weirder,

I opened default.jkm (from the Shared Settings Folder) and there was a lot
of stuff there, and sure enough your keystroke -- and a few more that do not
show up, as you said.

Good sleuthing, but it makes me even more nervous now that FS may well have
lost control of JAWS.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Spencer McLean" <smclean@csy.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 12:08
Subject: Select A Graphic Solved.


Hi:

So I threw all the .jkms, .jsses and so on to Linux so I do a grep on all
of
them, to search for Select A Graphic and I found it in default.jkm.
Default.JKM has a ton of commands in it that don't show up in Keyboard
Manager. So I edited default.jkm with Notepad, changed the keystroke
manually,
rebooted Jaws and woohoo, joy!

So in case anyone ever wants to change the keystroke of a command that
doesn't show up in the Keyboard Manager of default.jkm, try scrolling
through
default.jkm in Notepad and it should be there. :)

Spence


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Re: [Bulk] What does this Bulk mean that people are putting insubject lines?

Adrian Spratt
 

So, Dave, do you have a blank space for "Eat more fiber," too?

I'd be reluctant to silence a word such as "bulk" that has so many meanings
and comes up in so many contexts.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar on Laptop
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 4:52 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] What does this Bulk mean that people are putting
insubject lines?

Daniel,

It originates from the actual mail server, which marks mail that it suspects

of being Spam. You can change your own server's propensity to do this, but
not someone else's . So when you see it, it may have come from the first
sender, or any sender in the thread.

Removing manually is a real pain, and I never bother.

I just add [bulk] into the JAWS dictionary and have a blank space in the
pronounce field. Then I never hear it when the subject is being read. I also

do that with the other common [] items that show up on some lists.

I have my mail filters set up to first allow legitimate mail from my lists
to flow into the appropriate folders, even if the [bulk] is in the subject.
Then any remaining messages with [bulk] in the subject are dumped into a
bulk folder for me to quickly peruse and delete. Works very well.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel McGee" <venables134@btinternet.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:29
Subject: [Bulk] What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject
lines?


Hi all, as you have guessed subject says it all.

I was just wanting to know since I'm not sure of the terminology of what
this means in an email concept.

I don't want too many answers because the last thing I want to do is flood
the list with the same wording etc so once I get a few answers I'll let you
all know so the thread can be stopped.

I'm sure it's obvious once someone tells me but at the moment I haven't got
a clue! LOL

Many Thanks

Daniel
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Re: [Bulk] What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject lines?

Dave...
 

Daniel,

It originates from the actual mail server, which marks mail that it suspects
of being Spam. You can change your own server's propensity to do this, but
not someone else's . So when you see it, it may have come from the first
sender, or any sender in the thread.

Removing manually is a real pain, and I never bother.

I just add [bulk] into the JAWS dictionary and have a blank space in the
pronounce field. Then I never hear it when the subject is being read. I also
do that with the other common [] items that show up on some lists.

I have my mail filters set up to first allow legitimate mail from my lists
to flow into the appropriate folders, even if the [bulk] is in the subject.
Then any remaining messages with [bulk] in the subject are dumped into a
bulk folder for me to quickly peruse and delete. Works very well.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel McGee" <venables134@btinternet.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:29
Subject: [Bulk] What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject
lines?


Hi all, as you have guessed subject says it all.

I was just wanting to know since I'm not sure of the terminology of what
this means in an email concept.

I don't want too many answers because the last thing I want to do is flood
the list with the same wording etc so once I get a few answers I'll let you
all know so the thread can be stopped.

I'm sure it's obvious once someone tells me but at the moment I haven't got
a clue! LOL

Many Thanks

Daniel
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Re: Select A Graphic Solved.

Dave...
 

Spence,

Weirder and Weirder,

I opened default.jkm (from the Shared Settings Folder) and there was a lot
of stuff there, and sure enough your keystroke -- and a few more that do not
show up, as you said.

Good sleuthing, but it makes me even more nervous now that FS may well have
lost control of JAWS.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area. But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Spencer McLean" <smclean@csy.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 12:08
Subject: Select A Graphic Solved.


Hi:

So I threw all the .jkms, .jsses and so on to Linux so I do a grep on all
of
them, to search for Select A Graphic and I found it in default.jkm.
Default.JKM has a ton of commands in it that don't show up in Keyboard
Manager. So I edited default.jkm with Notepad, changed the keystroke
manually,
rebooted Jaws and woohoo, joy!

So in case anyone ever wants to change the keystroke of a command that
doesn't show up in the Keyboard Manager of default.jkm, try scrolling
through
default.jkm in Notepad and it should be there. :)

Spence


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Re: What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject lines?

Marsha <marcatony@...>
 

Hi
A person can always delete Bulk from the subject before he/she sends the
message.

Marsha


Re: What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject lines?

Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
 

Thanks for explaining it only appears at times,I thought the sender was
perhaps a member of many lists and it was being sent to all at once, now we
are getting something new about scrubbing, an attachment has been scrubbed I
have looked back at older Posts and this seems to be comparatively new
regards dorothy?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: 08 August 2011 19:14
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject
lines?

it means eat more fiber.

Actually, it's probably just something the mailing list software
inserts, not something people are typing.


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Select A Graphic Solved.

Spencer McLean <smclean@...>
 

Hi:

So I threw all the .jkms, .jsses and so on to Linux so I do a grep on all of them, to search for Select A Graphic and I found it in default.jkm. Default.JKM has a ton of commands in it that don't show up in Keyboard Manager. So I edited default.jkm with Notepad, changed the keystroke manually, rebooted Jaws and woohoo, joy!

So in case anyone ever wants to change the keystroke of a command that doesn't show up in the Keyboard Manager of default.jkm, try scrolling through default.jkm in Notepad and it should be there. :)

Spence


Re: What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject lines?

kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Eat more fiber? Hahaha. You are so funny!
Thanks for the explination nonetheless.


kimsansong@aol.com

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: 08 August, 2011 11:14 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject
lines?

it means eat more fiber.

Actually, it's probably just something the mailing list software inserts,
not something people are typing.


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Re: What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject lines?

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

it means eat more fiber.

Actually, it's probably just something the mailing list software inserts, not something people are typing.


Re: Real Speak Solo

Dorothy <dorothy.ingram-gorban@...>
 

Hello interesting, I think those real speak voices came with a version of
jaws that had 2 cd's I only ever loaded 1 cd, but from what you say you
downloaded them. I know many use the british voices,but I have noted they
soon move back to eloquence, it being faster or for other reasons. I heard
one in particular was thought to be awful"like a public schoolboy who had a
swollen mouth", I used to use british voices with my ocr,it is not open book
but again they did not work as well as the voice text ones
Of course it is a matter of choice regards dorothy

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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: 08 August 2011 18:07
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Real Speak Solo

I may have missed earlier, but I just noticed several Real Speak Solo
voices. I ran the tests, picked one, downloaded it, and installed it.
Clearly, I can switch to it. I don't think I want it to be my default
synthesizer. I need something more responsive, like Eloquence.
I thought there was a setting in JAWS such that when one uses the Say All
command, the synthesizer automatically switches to a preselected
synthesizer.
In this case, for Say All, I would like to try Samantha, the Real Speak
voice that seemed the best to me.
I checked in Settings Center, but I couldn't find what I was looking for,
namely, a place to tell JAWS what synthesizer to use in Say All.
I also checked under Voice Profiles. No joy there either. I checked under
"Help" for synthesizer, and didn't find anything. Perhaps I'm just dreaming
about this option. Clearly, there is a disconnect somewhere.


I. Edward Marquette
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Re: Real Speak Solo

Holger Fiallo <holgerfiallo@...>
 

it is there under voices profile.

-----Original Message-----
From: Marquette, Ed
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 12:06 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Real Speak Solo

I may have missed earlier, but I just noticed several Real Speak Solo voices. I ran the tests, picked one, downloaded it, and installed it.
Clearly, I can switch to it. I don't think I want it to be my default synthesizer. I need something more responsive, like Eloquence.
I thought there was a setting in JAWS such that when one uses the Say All command, the synthesizer automatically switches to a preselected synthesizer.
In this case, for Say All, I would like to try Samantha, the Real Speak voice that seemed the best to me.
I checked in Settings Center, but I couldn't find what I was looking for, namely, a place to tell JAWS what synthesizer to use in Say All.
I also checked under Voice Profiles. No joy there either. I checked under "Help" for synthesizer, and didn't find anything. Perhaps I'm just dreaming about this option. Clearly, there is a disconnect somewhere.


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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What does this Bulk mean that people are putting in subject lines?

Daniel McGee <venables134@...>
 

Hi all, as you have guessed subject says it all.

I was just wanting to know since I'm not sure of the terminology of what this means in an email concept.

I don't want too many answers because the last thing I want to do is flood the list with the same wording etc so once I get a few answers I'll let you all know so the thread can be stopped.

I'm sure it's obvious once someone tells me but at the moment I haven't got a clue! LOL

Many Thanks

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Real Speak Solo

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I may have missed earlier, but I just noticed several Real Speak Solo voices. I ran the tests, picked one, downloaded it, and installed it.
Clearly, I can switch to it. I don't think I want it to be my default synthesizer. I need something more responsive, like Eloquence.
I thought there was a setting in JAWS such that when one uses the Say All command, the synthesizer automatically switches to a preselected synthesizer.
In this case, for Say All, I would like to try Samantha, the Real Speak voice that seemed the best to me.
I checked in Settings Center, but I couldn't find what I was looking for, namely, a place to tell JAWS what synthesizer to use in Say All.
I also checked under Voice Profiles. No joy there either. I checked under "Help" for synthesizer, and didn't find anything. Perhaps I'm just dreaming about this option. Clearly, there is a disconnect somewhere.


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Re: [Bulk] Select A Graphic.

Adrian Spratt
 

Spence and Dave,

Using insert-control-g is a great tip for navigating Audible.com and other
websites. I just experimented with it. I have been navigating Audible by
pressing g, but this is much more efficient.

This subject gets even more curious. I speculated that creation of a
graphics list in IE might be an accidental byproduct of the way the command
works, but that isn't the case. It doesn't even try to automatically label
graphics.

As another experiment, I pressed insert-g (activates graphics labeler) on
some of the graphics in the list, and JAWS didn't respond at all. Then I
escaped out of the list and used the search command to land back on a
graphic. JAWS announced focus wasn't on a graphic, even though I confirmed
it was.

I have long been stymied by the graphics labeler, and my perplexity only
deepens.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Spencer McLean
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 11:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Select A Graphic.

Hi Dave:

I see your confusion. In Default.JKM, ctrl+insert+G is auto select graphics;
I see that now. Whatever auto label graphics is... But if you're in IE, and
you're on a webpage with graphics, CTRL+INSERT+G pulls up a list of graphics
you can surf to on the page, just like INSERT+F5, F6 and F7 do for forms,
links, headings, etc. and just like CTRL+INSERT+Z, X, R pull up lists of
divisions, checkboxes, radio buttons. I can't find any of these keystrokes
in any of the .JKMs.

Might've caused confusion by calling it Select A Graphic, but that's the
title of the list box that's pulled up with CTRL+INSERT+G.

So just to be ultra clear, in IE, CTRL+INSERT+G creates a list box of all
the available graphic links on the page. And I'd like to be able to re-task
that to something else. But it, along with its brethren, CTRL+INSERT+Z, X,
R, Q, C, P, and O, aren't in default.jkm, or Internet-explorer.jkm, at least
not that I can see. I checked the other logical .JKMs too and I didn't see
them. But they have to be somewhere!

Spence

On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Farfar on Laptop wrote:

Spence,

Now after reading your original inquiry, I admit I'm stumped. In one part
you are asking about the keyboard manager and finding the Insert+Ctrl+G
keystroke for the purpose of changing it.

That keystroke is "Auto Label Graphics" -- not select graphic.

Then you ask about navigation keys in Internet Explorer and why the
keystroke to select graphics must be so difficult.

Well in Internet Explorer the keystroke to select a graphic on a web page is
simply G. Perhaps you already know that.

There is no keystroke that I'm aware of like forms list, links, list, or
headings list to list all graphics on a web page.

Don't know how this relates to Insert+Ctrl+G, and perhaps you can illuminate
us on that point?

Dave Carlson From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough
for my comfort to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay
Area. But I'll try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Spencer McLean" <smclean@csy.ca>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 22:34
Subject: [Bulk] Select A Graphic.

Hi:

I've been searching high and low for where, in Keyboard Manager, one changes
Select A Graphic from the carpal-tunnel-inducing ctrl+insert+G -- at least
on my keyboard anyway -- to something more reasonable. Select a Link/Form
Field/Frame/Heading etc. are there under IE, but no Select a Graphic. Can
anyone save my poor wrist by pointing me in the right direction?

Apologies if this isn't a list for such questions.

Spence