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Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

John ESherrer
 

I have no experience with music in the Mac system.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 2:36 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

john,

You bring up good points on the Mac and its upgrades.

However a major disadvantage is access to music and audio production
applications, which Loren specifically mentioned. Sonar is accessible in
Windows with JAWS and other script applications. Power Tools and Cuebase are
not very accessible even at this time, especially in MIDI work.

Of course one has to do their own research, but in my experience the Windows
environment is very accessible to music production and final score
publication using JAWS.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Sherrer" <john@whitecane.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 19:38
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Windows systems are not much cheaper if you include office. But my Macd
experience is limited. But if I had to start over, I would go with the Mac,
the cleaner set up is very nice, no tower. But in a year or two who knows
what will be the best.
Another advantage is anti virus, but if you did internet and email in linux
you would have the same advantage.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 7:53 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

John, this is all very well, but Windows systems are cheaper, and in my
experience there are more inaccessible apps on the mac.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Sherrer
Sent: 04 December 2012 00:48
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Hi Lorin
If you have the choice, I would go with the Mac system. Upgrades and
software are cheap. And once you buy an application, you get the upgrades
with no cost. The last operating system upgrade cost $29. Many totally
blind do well with Voice over, the Mac screen reader. But a more powerful
screen reader is available for the Mac for $250.
For an exttra $100. you can get all the one on one training you want in one
hour sessions for a year.
In our area the training is good, but I saw emails where the training is not
good.
Once you learn it, you will save money, and the hardware seems to be very
drillable.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:53 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Hi,

Would Jaws 12 or 13 work with Windows 7 and has anyone used Windows 8 with
Jaws 14?

I have to buy a new laptop and wonder which OS I should buy or switch to an
Apple where I don't have to shell out money for upgrades of software like
Jaws, but can't afford any less accessibility as I am totally blind.

Any advice please, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

emma goodwin <emma.sleeptalk@...>
 

On Windows if you don't want to install MS office then you can
download Jart which is a basic word processor and I use that all the
time. You could also then use notepad or wordpad so you have alot of
options and don't have to install MS office if you only want to use
Word but if you need Excel and publisher like you mentioned yesterday
then you may have to buy office.

On 12/4/12, John Sherrer <john@whitecane.org> wrote:
Hi Lorin
MS Office is available for the Mac for $60.
But the Mac has Pages and Numnberws. Pages may cost $10, but you may get
them to throw it in. I am not sure about the cost of numbers.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 6:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

What about Word or Excel? I use these every day.

Sincerely,

Lauren
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Sherrer" <john@whitecane.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 19:47
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Hi Lorin
If you have the choice, I would go with the Mac system. Upgrades and
software are cheap. And once you buy an application, you get the
upgrades
with no cost. The last operating system upgrade cost $29. Many totally
blind do well with Voice over, the Mac screen reader. But a more
powerful
screen reader is available for the Mac for $250.
For an exttra $100. you can get all the one on one training you want in
one
hour sessions for a year.
In our area the training is good, but I saw emails where the training is
not
good.
Once you learn it, you will save money, and the hardware seems to be very
drillable.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:53 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Hi,

Would Jaws 12 or 13 work with Windows 7 and has anyone used Windows 8
with
Jaws 14?

I have to buy a new laptop and wonder which OS I should buy or switch to
an
Apple where I don't have to shell out money for upgrades of software like
Jaws, but can't afford any less accessibility as I am totally blind.

Any advice please, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

John ESherrer
 

Hi Lorin
MS Office is available for the Mac for $60.
But the Mac has Pages and Numnberws. Pages may cost $10, but you may get
them to throw it in. I am not sure about the cost of numbers.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 6:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

What about Word or Excel? I use these every day.

Sincerely,

Lauren
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Sherrer" <john@whitecane.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 19:47
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Hi Lorin
If you have the choice, I would go with the Mac system. Upgrades and
software are cheap. And once you buy an application, you get the upgrades
with no cost. The last operating system upgrade cost $29. Many totally
blind do well with Voice over, the Mac screen reader. But a more powerful
screen reader is available for the Mac for $250.
For an exttra $100. you can get all the one on one training you want in
one
hour sessions for a year.
In our area the training is good, but I saw emails where the training is
not
good.
Once you learn it, you will save money, and the hardware seems to be very
drillable.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:53 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Hi,

Would Jaws 12 or 13 work with Windows 7 and has anyone used Windows 8 with
Jaws 14?

I have to buy a new laptop and wonder which OS I should buy or switch to
an
Apple where I don't have to shell out money for upgrades of software like
Jaws, but can't afford any less accessibility as I am totally blind.

Any advice please, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Lauren
 

What about Word or Excel? I use these every day.

Sincerely,

Lauren

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Sherrer" <john@whitecane.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 19:47
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Hi Lorin
If you have the choice, I would go with the Mac system. Upgrades and
software are cheap. And once you buy an application, you get the upgrades
with no cost. The last operating system upgrade cost $29. Many totally
blind do well with Voice over, the Mac screen reader. But a more powerful
screen reader is available for the Mac for $250.
For an exttra $100. you can get all the one on one training you want in one
hour sessions for a year.
In our area the training is good, but I saw emails where the training is not
good.
Once you learn it, you will save money, and the hardware seems to be very
drillable.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:53 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Hi,

Would Jaws 12 or 13 work with Windows 7 and has anyone used Windows 8 with
Jaws 14?

I have to buy a new laptop and wonder which OS I should buy or switch to an
Apple where I don't have to shell out money for upgrades of software like
Jaws, but can't afford any less accessibility as I am totally blind.

Any advice please, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@...>
 

Yes, and the other problem with mac, is that if you get an app wich is
not accessible, usually there is not much you can do about it, wile in
windows you can at least try with the jaws cursor and click on things
and many times it does work. So there is more flexability.

On 04/12/2012, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
john,

You bring up good points on the Mac and its upgrades.

However a major disadvantage is access to music and audio production
applications, which Loren specifically mentioned. Sonar is accessible in
Windows with JAWS and other script applications. Power Tools and Cuebase are

not very accessible even at this time, especially in MIDI work.

Of course one has to do their own research, but in my experience the Windows

environment is very accessible to music production and final score
publication using JAWS.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Sherrer" <john@whitecane.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 19:38
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Windows systems are not much cheaper if you include office. But my Macd
experience is limited. But if I had to start over, I would go with the
Mac,
the cleaner set up is very nice, no tower. But in a year or two who knows
what will be the best.
Another advantage is anti virus, but if you did internet and email in linux
you would have the same advantage.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 7:53 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

John, this is all very well, but Windows systems are cheaper, and in my
experience there are more inaccessible apps on the mac.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Sherrer
Sent: 04 December 2012 00:48
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Hi Lorin
If you have the choice, I would go with the Mac system. Upgrades and
software are cheap. And once you buy an application, you get the upgrades
with no cost. The last operating system upgrade cost $29. Many totally
blind do well with Voice over, the Mac screen reader. But a more powerful
screen reader is available for the Mac for $250.
For an exttra $100. you can get all the one on one training you want in one
hour sessions for a year.
In our area the training is good, but I saw emails where the training is
not
good.
Once you learn it, you will save money, and the hardware seems to be very
drillable.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:53 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Hi,

Would Jaws 12 or 13 work with Windows 7 and has anyone used Windows 8 with
Jaws 14?

I have to buy a new laptop and wonder which OS I should buy or switch to an
Apple where I don't have to shell out money for upgrades of software like
Jaws, but can't afford any less accessibility as I am totally blind.

Any advice please, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Dave...
 

john,

You bring up good points on the Mac and its upgrades.

However a major disadvantage is access to music and audio production
applications, which Loren specifically mentioned. Sonar is accessible in
Windows with JAWS and other script applications. Power Tools and Cuebase are
not very accessible even at this time, especially in MIDI work.

Of course one has to do their own research, but in my experience the Windows
environment is very accessible to music production and final score
publication using JAWS.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Sherrer" <john@whitecane.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 19:38
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Windows systems are not much cheaper if you include office. But my Macd
experience is limited. But if I had to start over, I would go with the Mac,
the cleaner set up is very nice, no tower. But in a year or two who knows
what will be the best.
Another advantage is anti virus, but if you did internet and email in linux
you would have the same advantage.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 7:53 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

John, this is all very well, but Windows systems are cheaper, and in my
experience there are more inaccessible apps on the mac.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Sherrer
Sent: 04 December 2012 00:48
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Hi Lorin
If you have the choice, I would go with the Mac system. Upgrades and
software are cheap. And once you buy an application, you get the upgrades
with no cost. The last operating system upgrade cost $29. Many totally
blind do well with Voice over, the Mac screen reader. But a more powerful
screen reader is available for the Mac for $250.
For an exttra $100. you can get all the one on one training you want in one
hour sessions for a year.
In our area the training is good, but I saw emails where the training is not
good.
Once you learn it, you will save money, and the hardware seems to be very
drillable.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:53 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Hi,

Would Jaws 12 or 13 work with Windows 7 and has anyone used Windows 8 with
Jaws 14?

I have to buy a new laptop and wonder which OS I should buy or switch to an
Apple where I don't have to shell out money for upgrades of software like
Jaws, but can't afford any less accessibility as I am totally blind.

Any advice please, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: Windows 8 and MS Office XP

Dani Pagador
 

Hi, Tracy.
I'm not sure if MS Office XP will work with Win8, but I think the ribbon is
here to stay.
What is it about the ribbon that gives you trouble?
More Later,
Dani

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of TeddyBear
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 6:50 AM
To: JFW
Subject: Windows 8 and MS Office XP

Good morning list:

I will be updating to Windows 8, but am tired of trying to work with the
ribbons in Office 2007. Will MS Office XP work on Windows 8 using Jaws 12?

Thanks in advance.

Tracy
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Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

John ESherrer
 

Windows systems are not much cheaper if you include office. But my Macd
experience is limited. But if I had to start over, I would go with the Mac,
the cleaner set up is very nice, no tower. But in a year or two who knows
what will be the best.
Another advantage is anti virus, but if you did internet and email in linux
you would have the same advantage.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stone
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 7:53 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

John, this is all very well, but Windows systems are cheaper, and in my
experience there are more inaccessible apps on the mac.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Sherrer
Sent: 04 December 2012 00:48
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Hi Lorin
If you have the choice, I would go with the Mac system. Upgrades and
software are cheap. And once you buy an application, you get the upgrades
with no cost. The last operating system upgrade cost $29. Many totally
blind do well with Voice over, the Mac screen reader. But a more powerful
screen reader is available for the Mac for $250.
For an exttra $100. you can get all the one on one training you want in one
hour sessions for a year.
In our area the training is good, but I saw emails where the training is not
good.
Once you learn it, you will save money, and the hardware seems to be very
drillable.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:53 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Hi,

Would Jaws 12 or 13 work with Windows 7 and has anyone used Windows 8 with
Jaws 14?

I have to buy a new laptop and wonder which OS I should buy or switch to an
Apple where I don't have to shell out money for upgrades of software like
Jaws, but can't afford any less accessibility as I am totally blind.

Any advice please, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: jaws 12, 13, and 14

Dave...
 

Yes, unfortunately. Especially with Microsoft Excel. You'll need to learn some alternate keystrokes using the Windows key in many cases.

Dave Carlson
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 3, 2012, at 17:11, "Kevin Lee" <kleeva5@gmail.com> wrote:

has any of the key strokes(shortcut keys) changed from version 11?
I’m using jaws 11.0.1476 with windows 7 and I’m really good with it,. I’m considering upgrading but don’t want to learn new key strokes cuz it took me a longtime to learn 11
and I learned it with an instructor
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jaws 12, 13, and 14

Kevin Lee <kleeva5@...>
 

has any of the key strokes(shortcut keys) changed from version 11?
I’m using jaws 11.0.1476 with windows 7 and I’m really good with it,. I’m considering upgrading but don’t want to learn new key strokes cuz it took me a longtime to learn 11
and I learned it with an instructor
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Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Gary King
 

I've sometimes wanted to take a hammer to some of my computer hardware, but I've never wanted to drill into it. It must be a Mac thing.


Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net

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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 6:47 PM
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Hi Lorin
If you have the choice, I would go with the Mac system. Upgrades and
software are cheap. And once you buy an application, you get the upgrades
with no cost. The last operating system upgrade cost $29. Many totally
blind do well with Voice over, the Mac screen reader. But a more powerful
screen reader is available for the Mac for $250.
For an exttra $100. you can get all the one on one training you want in one
hour sessions for a year.
In our area the training is good, but I saw emails where the training is not
good.
Once you learn it, you will save money, and the hardware seems to be very
drillable.
John

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:53 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Hi,

Would Jaws 12 or 13 work with Windows 7 and has anyone used Windows 8 with
Jaws 14?

I have to buy a new laptop and wonder which OS I should buy or switch to an
Apple where I don't have to shell out money for upgrades of software like
Jaws, but can't afford any less accessibility as I am totally blind.

Any advice please, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Alex Stone <alexstone871@...>
 

John, this is all very well, but Windows systems are cheaper, and in my
experience there are more inaccessible apps on the mac.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of John Sherrer
Sent: 04 December 2012 00:48
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Hi Lorin
If you have the choice, I would go with the Mac system. Upgrades and
software are cheap. And once you buy an application, you get the upgrades
with no cost. The last operating system upgrade cost $29. Many totally
blind do well with Voice over, the Mac screen reader. But a more powerful
screen reader is available for the Mac for $250.
For an exttra $100. you can get all the one on one training you want in one
hour sessions for a year.
In our area the training is good, but I saw emails where the training is not
good.
Once you learn it, you will save money, and the hardware seems to be very
drillable.
John

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Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:53 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Hi,

Would Jaws 12 or 13 work with Windows 7 and has anyone used Windows 8 with
Jaws 14?

I have to buy a new laptop and wonder which OS I should buy or switch to an
Apple where I don't have to shell out money for upgrades of software like
Jaws, but can't afford any less accessibility as I am totally blind.

Any advice please, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

John ESherrer
 

Hi Lorin
If you have the choice, I would go with the Mac system. Upgrades and
software are cheap. And once you buy an application, you get the upgrades
with no cost. The last operating system upgrade cost $29. Many totally
blind do well with Voice over, the Mac screen reader. But a more powerful
screen reader is available for the Mac for $250.
For an exttra $100. you can get all the one on one training you want in one
hour sessions for a year.
In our area the training is good, but I saw emails where the training is not
good.
Once you learn it, you will save money, and the hardware seems to be very
drillable.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:53 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Hi,

Would Jaws 12 or 13 work with Windows 7 and has anyone used Windows 8 with
Jaws 14?

I have to buy a new laptop and wonder which OS I should buy or switch to an
Apple where I don't have to shell out money for upgrades of software like
Jaws, but can't afford any less accessibility as I am totally blind.

Any advice please, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: Windows 8 and MS Office XP

Dave...
 

Russell,

That's not at all surprising. I presume it's from personal experience?

Windows 8 wasn't available for testing when JAWS 12 was in construction and
revisions I suspect.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Solowoniuk" <rsolowoniuk@shaw.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 15:47
Subject: Re: Windows 8 and MS Office XP


Jaws 12 will not work with Windows 8.

Russell

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-12-03, at 9:49 AM, TeddyBear <teddybear25@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Good morning list:

I will be updating to Windows 8, but am tired of trying to work with the
ribbons in Office 2007. Will MS Office XP work on Windows 8 using Jaws
12?

Thanks in advance.

Tracy
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Re: Windows 8 and MS Office XP

Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@...>
 

Jaws 12 will not work with Windows 8.

Russell

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-12-03, at 9:49 AM, TeddyBear <teddybear25@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Good morning list:

I will be updating to Windows 8, but am tired of trying to work with the ribbons in Office 2007. Will MS Office XP work on Windows 8 using Jaws 12?

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Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

John ESherrer
 

If you find that your JAWS upgrade is high, get Windows Eyes, it only
upgrades about every three years. JAWS has turned greedy and upgrades every
year, but it seems that version 14 is a good one.
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 11:10 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

If I buy a new PC with Windows 8 and I need to upgrade to Jaws 14, is that
very expensive and how accessible is Windows 8 given that it's a touch
screen environment I believe? Am I safer to go with Windows 7 and Jaws 12 or
13?

I need to get a laptop soon and am trying to buy something that will work
for me without having to take out a mortgage.

Thanks,


Sincerely,

Lauren
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From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 10:31
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Kimsan,

I'm sure that a majority of Apple" genius-helpers are incompetent when
knowing how to help a blind person navigate a MAC using voiceover. I've
already run into more than one, just with the iPod and iPhone setups.
However I've also managed to educate more than one by helping them help
me.
Once we get voiceover turned on, I insist on their sitting with me for
some
keystrokes to get me going, and then I just play around on my own and the
so-called "genius" also learns.

I know we aren't supposed to train them, but how else will they learn? And
yes, their attention span resembles that of a gnat on caffeine, like so
many
of the usual customers.

I try to always take more than what they have to offer.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 00:32
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


I have spoken with a couple of people in the past where they had terrible
experiences with reps in apple stores and didn't receive good help.
However, that doesn't mean squat but I am just responding to the statement
about reps in the stores and how much they know how to use voice over and
provide demonstration.
For that very same reason is why I decided to provide voice over training
at
BlindAccessTraining.com, because the entire team is comprised of totally
blind individuals and have experience working with what we advertise.
So, when folks tell me that reps over at apple are the friendliest and
most
helpful folks you will be able to find, well, I don't care if they are
friendly but can you "help?"
I use pages to do a lot of the word processing and use numbers on my
IPhone
to use numbers, the spread sheet app akinda to excel.
I like all flavors, windows and the mac and have no preference over the
other, btw.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 9:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Dave,
I wonder how many of those folks in an Apple store really know how to use
the VoiceOver screen reader well enough to show how well it works with
various applications. Even if you found a knowledgeable person, how long
would you be able to spend working with a Mac in a store environment to
get
a good idea of how well a Mac would work for you?

In a Mac versus Windows PC discussion we had on the list a while ago, I
recall that it was the opinion of those folks who had used both platforms
that as long as you did simple tasks like email, Internet, playing a few
tunes, etc, the Mac was quite usable. However, if you wanted to do
serious
office work, your productivity would be much better on a Windows-based PC
with JAWS or another commercial screen reader. Microsoft has never made
much effort to write their Office software to be accessible on the Mac
platform, so a Mac user would need to find workable substitutes for Word
Excel, etc.

Anyone planning to go to a Mac should ask lots of questions on the Mac
user
groups for the blind and listen to a number of podcasts that have been
done
on Mac accessibility. Blind Cool Tech has quite a few of those podcasts
that may be helpful. I don't have the URLs for the user groups, so a
little
Google searching may be needed.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Lauren,

As to Mac vs. PC, you should go to your local Apple store, making an
appointment with the Genius Bar to have them sit with you on a couple
Macs
and let you try it out. Best way I know of to be sure.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 05:53
Subject: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Hi,

Would Jaws 12 or 13 work with Windows 7 and has anyone used Windows 8
with
Jaws 14?

I have to buy a new laptop and wonder which OS I should buy or switch to
an
Apple where I don't have to shell out money for upgrades of software like
Jaws, but can't afford any less accessibility as I am totally blind.

Any advice please, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: SMA Renewal Letter

Charles Krugman
 

yes, I received one at least a few weeks ago and as usual you have until December 31 to renew.
Chuck

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Mitchell" <mitch@orbitelcom.com>
To: "Jaws List" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 9:30 AM
Subject: SMA Renewal Letter


Cheers: Have those of you whose SMA expired with JAWS 14 received a SMA renewal letter yet?
If so, what is the deadline for renewal without a pricing penalty?
Thank you, Mitch

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Re: how much memory do you need for Jaws 14?

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

XP PRO, 13.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 4:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: how much memory do you need for Jaws 14?

What kind of OS & Jaws were you running?

Sincerely,

Lauren
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 15:02
Subject: RE: how much memory do you need for Jaws 14?


God save me from Essentials! I know many folks here swear by it, but my
experience with it was totally negative.

The first indicator of trouble came when I couldn't read the license. The
darn thing wouldn't update. Finally when I rebooted to get a fresh start,
my keyboard went dead. The driver either didn't load or was nullified.
My neighbor an I had to mouse our way over to Control Panel, uninstall
that turkey, ten shut down, whereupon full functionality was restored. It
didn't like my machine even a little bit!

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of emma goodwin
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 1:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: how much memory do you need for Jaws 14?

On windows 8, it already has essentials so you don't actually need a virus
program as its already there.

On 12/3/12, Lauren <lotusrising@verizon.net> wrote:
Hi,

Thanks to all for your advice so far. One other question if I am going
to use Windows 8 & Jaws 14, would a not expandable 8GB RAM be enough
to run both well & antivirus? BTW, which antivirus is most Jaws friendly?

Thanks,


Sincerely,

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Re: how much memory do you need for Jaws 14?

david <davidwhitehead1957@...>
 

hello there;
actually, windows 8 uses windows defender for virus/malware.
you can't load MSE on the machine.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Monday, December 3, 2012 4:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: how much memory do you need for Jaws 14?

What kind of OS & Jaws were you running?

Sincerely,

Lauren
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From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 15:02
Subject: RE: how much memory do you need for Jaws 14?


God save me from Essentials! I know many folks here swear by it, but my
experience with it was totally negative.

The first indicator of trouble came when I couldn't read the license. The
darn thing wouldn't update. Finally when I rebooted to get a fresh start,
my keyboard went dead. The driver either didn't load or was nullified.
My neighbor an I had to mouse our way over to Control Panel, uninstall
that turkey, ten shut down, whereupon full functionality was restored. It
didn't like my machine even a little bit!

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of emma goodwin
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 1:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: how much memory do you need for Jaws 14?

On windows 8, it already has essentials so you don't actually need a virus
program as its already there.

On 12/3/12, Lauren <lotusrising@verizon.net> wrote:
Hi,

Thanks to all for your advice so far. One other question if I am going
to use Windows 8 & Jaws 14, would a not expandable 8GB RAM be enough
to run both well & antivirus? BTW, which antivirus is most Jaws friendly?

Thanks,


Sincerely,

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Re: how much memory do you need for Jaws 14?

Lauren
 

What kind of OS & Jaws were you running?

Sincerely,

Lauren

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 15:02
Subject: RE: how much memory do you need for Jaws 14?


God save me from Essentials! I know many folks here swear by it, but my experience with it was totally negative.

The first indicator of trouble came when I couldn't read the license. The darn thing wouldn't update. Finally when I rebooted to get a fresh start, my keyboard went dead. The driver either didn't load or was nullified. My neighbor an I had to mouse our way over to Control Panel, uninstall that turkey, ten shut down, whereupon full functionality was restored. It didn't like my machine even a little bit!

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of emma goodwin
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 1:11 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: how much memory do you need for Jaws 14?

On windows 8, it already has essentials so you don't actually need a virus program as its already there.

On 12/3/12, Lauren <lotusrising@verizon.net> wrote:
Hi,

Thanks to all for your advice so far. One other question if I am going
to use Windows 8 & Jaws 14, would a not expandable 8GB RAM be enough
to run both well & antivirus? BTW, which antivirus is most Jaws friendly?

Thanks,


Sincerely,

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