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Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Dave...
 

Kimsan,

I'm sure that a majority of Apple" genius-helpers are incompetent when
knowing how to help a blind person navigate a MAC using voiceover. I've
already run into more than one, just with the iPod and iPhone setups.
However I've also managed to educate more than one by helping them help me.
Once we get voiceover turned on, I insist on their sitting with me for some
keystrokes to get me going, and then I just play around on my own and the
so-called "genius" also learns.

I know we aren't supposed to train them, but how else will they learn? And
yes, their attention span resembles that of a gnat on caffeine, like so many
of the usual customers.

I try to always take more than what they have to offer.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kimsan" <kimsansong@aol.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 00:32
Subject: RE: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


I have spoken with a couple of people in the past where they had terrible
experiences with reps in apple stores and didn't receive good help.
However, that doesn't mean squat but I am just responding to the statement
about reps in the stores and how much they know how to use voice over and
provide demonstration.
For that very same reason is why I decided to provide voice over training at
BlindAccessTraining.com, because the entire team is comprised of totally
blind individuals and have experience working with what we advertise.
So, when folks tell me that reps over at apple are the friendliest and most
helpful folks you will be able to find, well, I don't care if they are
friendly but can you "help?"
I use pages to do a lot of the word processing and use numbers on my IPhone
to use numbers, the spread sheet app akinda to excel.
I like all flavors, windows and the mac and have no preference over the
other, btw.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 9:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Dave,
I wonder how many of those folks in an Apple store really know how to use
the VoiceOver screen reader well enough to show how well it works with
various applications. Even if you found a knowledgeable person, how long
would you be able to spend working with a Mac in a store environment to get
a good idea of how well a Mac would work for you?

In a Mac versus Windows PC discussion we had on the list a while ago, I
recall that it was the opinion of those folks who had used both platforms
that as long as you did simple tasks like email, Internet, playing a few
tunes, etc, the Mac was quite usable. However, if you wanted to do serious
office work, your productivity would be much better on a Windows-based PC
with JAWS or another commercial screen reader. Microsoft has never made
much effort to write their Office software to be accessible on the Mac
platform, so a Mac user would need to find workable substitutes for Word
Excel, etc.

Anyone planning to go to a Mac should ask lots of questions on the Mac user
groups for the blind and listen to a number of podcasts that have been done
on Mac accessibility. Blind Cool Tech has quite a few of those podcasts
that may be helpful. I don't have the URLs for the user groups, so a little
Google searching may be needed.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Lauren,

As to Mac vs. PC, you should go to your local Apple store, making an
appointment with the Genius Bar to have them sit with you on a couple Macs
and let you try it out. Best way I know of to be sure.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 05:53
Subject: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Hi,

Would Jaws 12 or 13 work with Windows 7 and has anyone used Windows 8 with
Jaws 14?

I have to buy a new laptop and wonder which OS I should buy or switch to
an
Apple where I don't have to shell out money for upgrades of software like
Jaws, but can't afford any less accessibility as I am totally blind.

Any advice please, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: Automatically restricting the Jaws cursor

Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@...>
 

I am not aware of such setting, perhaps you should send that to
suggestions@freedomscientific.com. Note that this address is only a
report address so you won't get a reply there. But that could be
helpfull.

On 01/12/2012, rhs@q.com <rhs@q.com> wrote:
Is there a setting that will have it automatically set to "real" without me
pressing insert+r each time?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 2:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Automatically restricting the Jaws cursor

Yes, just press insert plus r once you in that window.

On 30/11/2012, rhs@q.com <rhs@q.com> wrote:
Hi,

I have an application I want to restrict the Jaws cursor to "Real".
Is there a way to have JFW automatically restrict the Jaws cursor
whenever I am using that particular application?

I am running Windows 7 and JFW 14.

Thanks


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Re: JAWS losing focus?

Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@...>
 

Maybe try to disable them from the tools menu. I agree that freedom
should actually provide more info about components to avoid and wich
works best. I've learned that any gigabite component could cause
problems so I rather stay away from it.

On 01/12/2012, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Mike,

Yes, and I can remove the Google Toolbar and other toolbars very easily
using Add/Remove programs in the control panel or in the Programs and
Features dialog.

What I'm referring to is the area in IE where you find the address,
favorites bar, the search field and search preference, and the tab for the
current page. How do I get rid of all that cr**p so I don't get stuck in
there?

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike B." <mb69mach1@charter.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 06:51
Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus?


Hi Ted & Dave,

The Google toolbar can be removed through the control panel. Also, the
revo
uninstaller will remove any leftover remnants of a program / toolbar, such
as crap that a program will leave in the registry or in folders like the
application folder in your name or owner folder on the root of the C drive.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 5:35 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus?


You never can tell. I don't use them for anything save the occasional
query,
and didn't even know the fool thing was there, until I check the list of
potential programs.


Ted
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus?

Ted,

Worth a try, but I suspect that revo uninstall just removes tool bars, and
not the entire address bar - favorites bar - search bar area.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 05:13
Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus?


Try one of the after-market uninstall programs like Revo Uninstall, an app
mentioned by several of us on this list. I somehow picked up a Google bar
(sounds like something with chocolate and nuts, doesn't it?), and that
program nixed it.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Abby Vincent
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:25 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus?

Is the address/search tar baby part of IE or Google? I have the same
problem of getting stuck. I did manage to remove it, but when I went to
the
IE page again, it came back up. The JAWS cursor and ctrl-f6 methods do
work, but I'd really like to get rid of it completely. As far as I know,
it
does nothing that can't be done in a less annoying way.
Abby

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus?

Yes, Happens to me a lot, even if the page is completely loaded. Alt+tab a
couple times, and even sometimes need to minimize IE and maximize again to
get it focused.

And I always have to press Ctrl+F6 to get out of the upper
address/favorites/search section. Very easy to get stuck in that tar-baby
of
IE.

And yes, it's frustrating. In some particularly severe cases I even need to
use my JAWS cursor to find some text on the web page and press left click
to
"wake up" the page into focus.

JAWS 13 and 14 both do this.

Using IE8. Windows 7.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Karoline Bourdeau" <karoline.bourdeau@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 15:20
Subject: JAWS losing focus?




I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the web,
JAWS would lose focus. I have to shift tab twice to get back to where I
was.


Anyone else?

Thanks.

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Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

I have spoken with a couple of people in the past where they had terrible
experiences with reps in apple stores and didn't receive good help.
However, that doesn't mean squat but I am just responding to the statement
about reps in the stores and how much they know how to use voice over and
provide demonstration.
For that very same reason is why I decided to provide voice over training at
BlindAccessTraining.com, because the entire team is comprised of totally
blind individuals and have experience working with what we advertise.
So, when folks tell me that reps over at apple are the friendliest and most
helpful folks you will be able to find, well, I don't care if they are
friendly but can you "help?"
I use pages to do a lot of the word processing and use numbers on my IPhone
to use numbers, the spread sheet app akinda to excel.
I like all flavors, windows and the mac and have no preference over the
other, btw.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 9:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Dave,
I wonder how many of those folks in an Apple store really know how to use
the VoiceOver screen reader well enough to show how well it works with
various applications. Even if you found a knowledgeable person, how long
would you be able to spend working with a Mac in a store environment to get
a good idea of how well a Mac would work for you?

In a Mac versus Windows PC discussion we had on the list a while ago, I
recall that it was the opinion of those folks who had used both platforms
that as long as you did simple tasks like email, Internet, playing a few
tunes, etc, the Mac was quite usable. However, if you wanted to do serious
office work, your productivity would be much better on a Windows-based PC
with JAWS or another commercial screen reader. Microsoft has never made
much effort to write their Office software to be accessible on the Mac
platform, so a Mac user would need to find workable substitutes for Word
Excel, etc.

Anyone planning to go to a Mac should ask lots of questions on the Mac user
groups for the blind and listen to a number of podcasts that have been done
on Mac accessibility. Blind Cool Tech has quite a few of those podcasts
that may be helpful. I don't have the URLs for the user groups, so a little
Google searching may be needed.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Lauren,

As to Mac vs. PC, you should go to your local Apple store, making an
appointment with the Genius Bar to have them sit with you on a couple Macs
and let you try it out. Best way I know of to be sure.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 05:53
Subject: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Hi,

Would Jaws 12 or 13 work with Windows 7 and has anyone used Windows 8 with
Jaws 14?

I have to buy a new laptop and wonder which OS I should buy or switch to
an
Apple where I don't have to shell out money for upgrades of software like
Jaws, but can't afford any less accessibility as I am totally blind.

Any advice please, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

Or, you can visit http://www.blindaccesstraining.com/ and fill out the
contact us form and a trainer will be in contact with you and would be happy
to answer any questions you have concerning the mac.-----Original
Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 6:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Lauren,

As to Mac vs. PC, you should go to your local Apple store, making an
appointment with the Genius Bar to have them sit with you on a couple Macs
and let you try it out. Best way I know of to be sure.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 05:53
Subject: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Hi,

Would Jaws 12 or 13 work with Windows 7 and has anyone used Windows 8 with
Jaws 14?

I have to buy a new laptop and wonder which OS I should buy or switch to an
Apple where I don't have to shell out money for upgrades of software like
Jaws, but can't afford any less accessibility as I am totally blind.

Any advice please, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: JAWS losing focus?

Dave...
 

Mike,

Yes, and I can remove the Google Toolbar and other toolbars very easily
using Add/Remove programs in the control panel or in the Programs and
Features dialog.

What I'm referring to is the area in IE where you find the address,
favorites bar, the search field and search preference, and the tab for the
current page. How do I get rid of all that cr**p so I don't get stuck in
there?

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike B." <mb69mach1@charter.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 06:51
Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus?


Hi Ted & Dave,

The Google toolbar can be removed through the control panel. Also, the revo
uninstaller will remove any leftover remnants of a program / toolbar, such
as crap that a program will leave in the registry or in folders like the
application folder in your name or owner folder on the root of the C drive.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

----- Original Message -----
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 5:35 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus?


You never can tell. I don't use them for anything save the occasional query,
and didn't even know the fool thing was there, until I check the list of
potential programs.


Ted
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus?

Ted,

Worth a try, but I suspect that revo uninstall just removes tool bars, and
not the entire address bar - favorites bar - search bar area.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 05:13
Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus?


Try one of the after-market uninstall programs like Revo Uninstall, an app
mentioned by several of us on this list. I somehow picked up a Google bar
(sounds like something with chocolate and nuts, doesn't it?), and that
program nixed it.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Abby Vincent
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:25 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus?

Is the address/search tar baby part of IE or Google? I have the same
problem of getting stuck. I did manage to remove it, but when I went to the
IE page again, it came back up. The JAWS cursor and ctrl-f6 methods do
work, but I'd really like to get rid of it completely. As far as I know, it
does nothing that can't be done in a less annoying way.
Abby

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus?

Yes, Happens to me a lot, even if the page is completely loaded. Alt+tab a
couple times, and even sometimes need to minimize IE and maximize again to
get it focused.

And I always have to press Ctrl+F6 to get out of the upper
address/favorites/search section. Very easy to get stuck in that tar-baby of
IE.

And yes, it's frustrating. In some particularly severe cases I even need to
use my JAWS cursor to find some text on the web page and press left click to
"wake up" the page into focus.

JAWS 13 and 14 both do this.

Using IE8. Windows 7.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Karoline Bourdeau" <karoline.bourdeau@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 15:20
Subject: JAWS losing focus?




I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the web,
JAWS would lose focus. I have to shift tab twice to get back to where I was.


Anyone else?

Thanks.

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Re: JAWS losing focus?

Dave...
 

Aidan,

Since the whole concept of "focus" is related to JAWS being focused in a
particular application, I think it's safe to say that it's related to JAWS
and not the application. After all, a person with sight can see the
application, unless they are not wearing their glasses.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aidan Maher" <aidan.smarttalk@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 10:45
Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus?


Is this focus thing jaws fault, or the actual programs you are using
fault? Just wunder about that? How do we make sure of that? Quite
tricky.

On 30/11/2012, George Marshall <marshall.geoma4@gmail.com> wrote:
I have this los of focus each time I enter Outlook 2003.

George R. Marshall
marshall.geoma4@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Karoline
Bourdeau
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:20 PM
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I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the web,
JAWS would lose focus. I have to shift tab twice to get back to where I
was.


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Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Dave...
 

Gary,

True, but setting an appointment and specifically asking for that service
would help. And then being insistent and persistent with the staff. Only way
we can get their attention.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary King" <w4wkz@bellsouth.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 09:40
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Dave,
I wonder how many of those folks in an Apple store really know how to use
the VoiceOver screen reader well enough to show how well it works with
various applications. Even if you found a knowledgeable person, how long
would you be able to spend working with a Mac in a store environment to get
a good idea of how well a Mac would work for you?

In a Mac versus Windows PC discussion we had on the list a while ago, I
recall that it was the opinion of those folks who had used both platforms
that as long as you did simple tasks like email, Internet, playing a few
tunes, etc, the Mac was quite usable. However, if you wanted to do serious
office work, your productivity would be much better on a Windows-based PC
with JAWS or another commercial screen reader. Microsoft has never made
much effort to write their Office software to be accessible on the Mac
platform, so a Mac user would need to find workable substitutes for Word
Excel, etc.

Anyone planning to go to a Mac should ask lots of questions on the Mac user
groups for the blind and listen to a number of podcasts that have been done
on Mac accessibility. Blind Cool Tech has quite a few of those podcasts
that may be helpful. I don't have the URLs for the user groups, so a little
Google searching may be needed.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Lauren,

As to Mac vs. PC, you should go to your local Apple store, making an
appointment with the Genius Bar to have them sit with you on a couple Macs
and let you try it out. Best way I know of to be sure.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 05:53
Subject: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Hi,

Would Jaws 12 or 13 work with Windows 7 and has anyone used Windows 8 with
Jaws 14?

I have to buy a new laptop and wonder which OS I should buy or switch to
an
Apple where I don't have to shell out money for upgrades of software like
Jaws, but can't afford any less accessibility as I am totally blind.

Any advice please, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Tom Lange
 

Hi,
Both JAWS 12 and 13 will work fine with Windows 7. Only JAWS 14 will work with Windows 8, or at least that's my understanding.

I really like the idea of going with a Mac at some point in the future, but there would be a considerable learning curve involved. The good news is that if a new Mac has a touchpad and you're already used to using an IOS device, navigating using the touchpad will be similar to what you'd do on an iPhone or iPad. I like that idea a lot, as I'm an avid iPhone user.

Tom

----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Lauren,

As to Mac vs. PC, you should go to your local Apple store, making an
appointment with the Genius Bar to have them sit with you on a couple Macs
and let you try it out. Best way I know of to be sure.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 05:53
Subject: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Hi,

Would Jaws 12 or 13 work with Windows 7 and has anyone used Windows 8 with
Jaws 14?

I have to buy a new laptop and wonder which OS I should buy or switch to an
Apple where I don't have to shell out money for upgrades of software like
Jaws, but can't afford any less accessibility as I am totally blind.

Any advice please, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: Automatically restricting the Jaws cursor

Ralph Supernaw
 

Is there a setting that will have it automatically set to "real" without me
pressing insert+r each time?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 2:07 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Automatically restricting the Jaws cursor

Yes, just press insert plus r once you in that window.

On 30/11/2012, rhs@q.com <rhs@q.com> wrote:
Hi,

I have an application I want to restrict the Jaws cursor to "Real".
Is there a way to have JFW automatically restrict the Jaws cursor
whenever I am using that particular application?

I am running Windows 7 and JFW 14.

Thanks


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Re: JAWS losing focus?

Adrian Spratt
 

Not tricky at all. If such a problem occurs with JAWS and not otherwise,
probabilities are high that it's JAWS.

A more difficult question is why JAWS acts this way on some systems but not
on others. I do not experience JAWS losing focus as I switch in and out of
Outlook 2003, but many people do. The answers must lie with the video
drivers or other computer-specific hardware or programming. I wish FS were
willing to publish a list of computer parts that work or don't work with
JAWS based on in-house tests and user reports.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Aidan Maher
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 1:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus?

Is this focus thing jaws fault, or the actual programs you are using fault?
Just wunder about that? How do we make sure of that? Quite tricky.

On 30/11/2012, George Marshall <marshall.geoma4@gmail.com> wrote:
I have this los of focus each time I enter Outlook 2003.

George R. Marshall
marshall.geoma4@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
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Bourdeau
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:20 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: JAWS losing focus?



I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the
web, JAWS would lose focus. I have to shift tab twice to get back to
where I was.


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Thanks.

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Re: Automatically restricting the Jaws cursor

Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@...>
 

Yes, just press insert plus r once you in that window.

On 30/11/2012, rhs@q.com <rhs@q.com> wrote:
Hi,

I have an application I want to restrict the Jaws cursor to "Real". Is
there a way to have JFW automatically restrict the Jaws cursor whenever I
am
using that particular application?

I am running Windows 7 and JFW 14.

Thanks


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Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Lauren
 

Thanks so much.

Sincerely,

Lauren

----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 12:40
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Dave,
I wonder how many of those folks in an Apple store really know how to use the VoiceOver screen reader well enough to show how well it works with various applications. Even if you found a knowledgeable person, how long would you be able to spend working with a Mac in a store environment to get a good idea of how well a Mac would work for you?

In a Mac versus Windows PC discussion we had on the list a while ago, I recall that it was the opinion of those folks who had used both platforms that as long as you did simple tasks like email, Internet, playing a few tunes, etc, the Mac was quite usable. However, if you wanted to do serious office work, your productivity would be much better on a Windows-based PC with JAWS or another commercial screen reader. Microsoft has never made much effort to write their Office software to be accessible on the Mac platform, so a Mac user would need to find workable substitutes for Word Excel, etc.

Anyone planning to go to a Mac should ask lots of questions on the Mac user groups for the blind and listen to a number of podcasts that have been done on Mac accessibility. Blind Cool Tech has quite a few of those podcasts that may be helpful. I don't have the URLs for the user groups, so a little Google searching may be needed.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
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From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Lauren,

As to Mac vs. PC, you should go to your local Apple store, making an
appointment with the Genius Bar to have them sit with you on a couple Macs
and let you try it out. Best way I know of to be sure.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 05:53
Subject: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Hi,

Would Jaws 12 or 13 work with Windows 7 and has anyone used Windows 8 with
Jaws 14?

I have to buy a new laptop and wonder which OS I should buy or switch to an
Apple where I don't have to shell out money for upgrades of software like
Jaws, but can't afford any less accessibility as I am totally blind.

Any advice please, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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Automatically restricting the Jaws cursor

Ralph Supernaw
 

Hi,

I have an application I want to restrict the Jaws cursor to "Real". Is
there a way to have JFW automatically restrict the Jaws cursor whenever I am
using that particular application?

I am running Windows 7 and JFW 14.

Thanks


Flexible web and html code

Brian and Denise Albriton <autoharp@...>
 

There is a page I go to which has quite a few like and comment buttons. How might I easily find the element I want to hide when configuring flexible web. Nothing in the elements listed in the flexible web dialog has the words comment or like and what is there is obscure to be at this point. Just need a little web education I would say. I love flexible web and the potential it has.
Brian


Re: JAWS losing focus?

Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@...>
 

Is this focus thing jaws fault, or the actual programs you are using
fault? Just wunder about that? How do we make sure of that? Quite
tricky.

On 30/11/2012, George Marshall <marshall.geoma4@gmail.com> wrote:
I have this los of focus each time I enter Outlook 2003.

George R. Marshall
marshall.geoma4@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Karoline
Bourdeau
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:20 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: JAWS losing focus?



I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the web,
JAWS would lose focus. I have to shift tab twice to get back to where I
was.


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Re: JAWS losing focus?

George Marshall
 

I have this los of focus each time I enter Outlook 2003.

George R. Marshall
marshall.geoma4@gmail.com

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Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

emma goodwin <emma.sleeptalk@...>
 

People also can go to the white stick website. Tom Lawromer has a lot
of listserves that he gives that you can join. Alot of the mac and IOS
lists can be gotten there. www.whitestick.co.uk

On 11/30/12, Gary King <w4wkz@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Dave,
I wonder how many of those folks in an Apple store really know how to use
the VoiceOver screen reader well enough to show how well it works with
various applications. Even if you found a knowledgeable person, how long
would you be able to spend working with a Mac in a store environment to get

a good idea of how well a Mac would work for you?

In a Mac versus Windows PC discussion we had on the list a while ago, I
recall that it was the opinion of those folks who had used both platforms
that as long as you did simple tasks like email, Internet, playing a few
tunes, etc, the Mac was quite usable. However, if you wanted to do serious

office work, your productivity would be much better on a Windows-based PC
with JAWS or another commercial screen reader. Microsoft has never made
much effort to write their Office software to be accessible on the Mac
platform, so a Mac user would need to find workable substitutes for Word
Excel, etc.

Anyone planning to go to a Mac should ask lots of questions on the Mac user

groups for the blind and listen to a number of podcasts that have been done

on Mac accessibility. Blind Cool Tech has quite a few of those podcasts
that may be helpful. I don't have the URLs for the user groups, so a little

Google searching may be needed.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Lauren,

As to Mac vs. PC, you should go to your local Apple store, making an
appointment with the Genius Bar to have them sit with you on a couple
Macs
and let you try it out. Best way I know of to be sure.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 05:53
Subject: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Hi,

Would Jaws 12 or 13 work with Windows 7 and has anyone used Windows 8
with
Jaws 14?

I have to buy a new laptop and wonder which OS I should buy or switch to
an
Apple where I don't have to shell out money for upgrades of software like
Jaws, but can't afford any less accessibility as I am totally blind.

Any advice please, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?

Gary King
 

Dave,
I wonder how many of those folks in an Apple store really know how to use the VoiceOver screen reader well enough to show how well it works with various applications. Even if you found a knowledgeable person, how long would you be able to spend working with a Mac in a store environment to get a good idea of how well a Mac would work for you?

In a Mac versus Windows PC discussion we had on the list a while ago, I recall that it was the opinion of those folks who had used both platforms that as long as you did simple tasks like email, Internet, playing a few tunes, etc, the Mac was quite usable. However, if you wanted to do serious office work, your productivity would be much better on a Windows-based PC with JAWS or another commercial screen reader. Microsoft has never made much effort to write their Office software to be accessible on the Mac platform, so a Mac user would need to find workable substitutes for Word Excel, etc.

Anyone planning to go to a Mac should ask lots of questions on the Mac user groups for the blind and listen to a number of podcasts that have been done on Mac accessibility. Blind Cool Tech has quite a few of those podcasts that may be helpful. I don't have the URLs for the user groups, so a little Google searching may be needed.

Gary King
w4wkz@bellsouth.net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Lauren,

As to Mac vs. PC, you should go to your local Apple store, making an
appointment with the Genius Bar to have them sit with you on a couple Macs
and let you try it out. Best way I know of to be sure.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lauren" <lotusrising@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 05:53
Subject: Jaws 12 or 13 & windows 7?


Hi,

Would Jaws 12 or 13 work with Windows 7 and has anyone used Windows 8 with
Jaws 14?

I have to buy a new laptop and wonder which OS I should buy or switch to an
Apple where I don't have to shell out money for upgrades of software like
Jaws, but can't afford any less accessibility as I am totally blind.

Any advice please, I'd be grateful. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Lauren
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Re: JAWS losing focus?

dave grossoehme
 

Good Morning: I'm not surprised about Freedom Scientific's response on this
problem. Loosing focus goes back several versions in different
applications. The earliest version of Jaws was back in version 6 that this
problem started showing up for me. Sometimes you can alt+tab a time or more
to get rid of the problem. At times you are forced to shut Jaws down and
restart it. In version 13/14 I'm noticed it the worst, where you are forced
to shutdown and restart the computer to regain sound when reading messages
in Outlook 10 with Windows 7 on an Hp computer. Considering I have had this
problem on many different applications on my work computer I didn't even
think about reporting the problem.
Your Friend Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Abby Vincent
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 6:00 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: JAWS losing focus?

This happens to me often. I lose focus especially just after I've entered
something, such as in an edit box. I haven't tried lately, but earlier this
year, FS tech support said it's a windows problem. I did have a sighted
person try the same action without using JAWS. No loss of focus. I hope
someone on the list will have a fix, but I'm pretty sure it's an issue that
JAWS needs to address.
Abby

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: JAWS losing focus?

Yes, Happens to me a lot, even if the page is completely loaded. Alt+tab a
couple times, and even sometimes need to minimize IE and maximize again to
get it focused.

And I always have to press Ctrl+F6 to get out of the upper
address/favorites/search section. Very easy to get stuck in that tar-baby of
IE.

And yes, it's frustrating. In some particularly severe cases I even need to
use my JAWS cursor to find some text on the web page and press left click to
"wake up" the page into focus.

JAWS 13 and 14 both do this.

Using IE8. Windows 7.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


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To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 15:20
Subject: JAWS losing focus?




I am not sure how to fix this. When I am in a window say reading the web,
JAWS would lose focus. I have to shift tab twice to get back to where I was.


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Thanks.

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