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So, are we all going to access his information now or are we simply dropping
hints.

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thanks for your account information.



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Hi,
sorry about that, but I did not follow the whole thread.
However, I wish to be subscribed with this email address...

Angela from Italy.

Il 11/10/2012 18:33, Chris Smart ha scritto:
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thanks for your account information.



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Re: dooie13@myfrontiermail.com Subscription

Dave...
 

Dwight!

You just gave us all your password. Likely a mistake on your part.
You had better unsubscribe, and change that password immediately. Never post
your password on a list.

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Richard Holloway
 

You may want to change whatever password that is-- looks like you sent it to all on the list.
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Re: text documents or tutorials

David Bailes
 

Hi Mary,
for Windows 7, a guide to windows explorer:
http://goo.gl/QbX8F
Also, a guide to the taskbar, which includes the start menu, task bar buttons and the notification area:
http://goo.gl/uu3XW
 
David.
 
original message:
Sorry.

Windows7, Microsoft office 2007/ 2010 with is excel, power point, access,
outlook

How to use drop box and send space.
How to use facebook, victor stream, intel reader, Braille note m power


Re: text documents or tutorials

robert hebert <roberthebert@...>
 

Maryann, you might begin with the Jaws training materials. Dropbox is
self-explanatory, and very accessible--simply follow the prompts.
Additionally, you could google training for blind computer users or some
variation thereof. As well, the online help for most of these applications
has accessability information. These suggestions are by no means
all-inclusive but will certainly give you a good starting point and likely
several years of study.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: October-03-12 8:37 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: text documents or tutorials

Sorry.

Windows7, Microsoft office 2007/ 2010 with is excel, power point, access,
outlook

How to use drop box and send space.
How to use facebook, victor stream, intel reader, Braille note m power


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Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 10:27 PM
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which programs specifically?
that's very vague.



At 11:21 PM 10/3/2012, you wrote:
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jaws settings center in word:

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Hi I was in the settings center in word yesterday and I couldn't find any of
the word options. It kept showing me options for web and pdfs custom
highlighting and research it. How do I get jaws to display the correct set
of options when in
word?
I am using jaws 13.0.1006.
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Re: serial number

bob mathews <bmathews@...>
 

My situation is the same as Abby, I started with JAWS for DOS, AND MY NO. IS
33XX AND SOMETIME ALONG THE WAY FS added a 0 in front..
Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Abby Vincent
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 11:58
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: serial number

I started with JAWS for DOS. My number starts with 83 and has remained the
same, even with the transition to JAWS for Windows. It doesn't look like
the theory that the lower your serial number, the earlier you started using
JAWS is true. I also remember when you had to have an external speech
synthesizer to use JAWS, or any other screen reader. Now, thank goodness,
you can use your sound card.
Enjoy Indigenous Peoples' Day,
Abby

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of john.falter
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 8:19 AM
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Subject: Re: serial number

I don't think you can go that way. I got JAWS in '96 and my number is about
7400.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 8:45 AM
Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific Petition


Hi,
I believe I started with JAWS in 1993 and my sn is 49XX.
I think I started with version 3.something.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel
Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 5:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific Petition

No, I started using jaws during the transition period between jfw8 and 9.
I
have had several SMAs in the meantime as well as purchasing the remote
access option, but my SN has not changed.

On 10/2/12, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Good idea. Mine is 35xxx and I purchased back in version 3.5. However
it may

be that a new purchase serial number maintains the first digits as
the version in force at the time. My 35xxx aligns with version 3.5.
Was your first version 4.2?

IF this is the scheme, then FS allowed for up to 1000 new users per
version,

and might change the serial prefix with each new version. We'd have
to collect a fair number of serial numbers to be sure of this.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 15:02
Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific Petition


Well, we could make a guess by serial numbers.

My jaws serial number is about 427400 and I purchased jaws in late
2007 if memory serves.

I am pretty sure FS does in fact use incremental SN, not some odd
pattern with lots of holes. If we had someone who is a very recent
purchaser we could get an idea about both the overall population as
well as how fast it is growing.

On 10/2/12, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Nope, and no idea.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Logue" <bobcat11@telusplanet.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 14:45
Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific Petition


I wonder if FS would release the number of licences or users they
have sold. Do we know how many Jaws users there are?

On 10/2/2012 10:24 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

There is absolutely no way that two thirds of all blind people use
JAWS.
There are an estimated 1.2 million people in the US classified as
legally blind, but only a small fraction, perhaps less than 10% use
computers with screen readers. The overwhelming majority of blind
people do not use computers, so the actual number of JAWS users is
probably quite small. Also, an estimated 70% of blind people are
unemployed, so they would have little or no means of acquiring
computers or commercial screen readers. And the vast majority of
JAWS users do not belong to this or other blind-tech related
mailing lists, so they would have no way of learning about the
petition. FS keeps the number of JAWS customers a closely guarded
secret, so nobody really knows how many blind people are actually
using it. But if I had to venture a guess, I would say that the
number of JAWS users might be somewhere between 50,000 and 150,000,
but this is only a wild guess not based on any facts or evidence.

Gerald


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<Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 11:45 AM
Subject: Freedom Scientific Petition


All:
As promised, I am about to put the Freedom Scientific "Gimmick
Feature Moratorium" petition up on the Internet. Before doing so,
I have a couple of questions:

1. The Change.org petition form suggests (perhaps requires) a
sign-up goal. I'd be interested in suggestions as to the number
of JAWS users that should sign such a petition to be considered a
success. One of those helping with the drafting of the petition
has information that two thirds of all blind persons use JAWS.
Does anyone have any idea how many people that is? What would be
a reasonable percentage of signers to expect? Looking for
suggestions here. I'm happy to accept responses off-line. Although
this is JAWS-related, I don't want to spark a flurry of off-topic
discussions
again.
2. Change.org is, to my way of thinking, a little awkward when it
comes to screen reader usage. It isn't bad, but there are some
less than intuitive prompts. I would like this petition to be on
the most accessible public petition Website possible. Would
anyone on the list perhaps know of a site for a public petition
that is better and/or more accessible than is Change.org?
Thanks to the off-line support and drafting assistance. We've
tried to accommodate the views expressed on this list and
elsewhere even though, in some instances, the interests were not
always
congruent.
In the petition, we have not cited specific issues. I actually
started to do that, but I wanted to get the petition up before
Christmas. <SMILE> Thanks for all your help!


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jaws and, winamp

Curt Taubert
 

I noticed when I'm not in the winamp window it'll sometimes read part of the track. For example the other night I was listening to the song Where I come from. I wasn't even in the winamp window and, it read it as, Where I come F. Then it read the length of the track.
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Re: jaws won't read message in outlook 2003 with j14 beta 2

paul lemm
 

Hi Dave,

thanks for the advise I'll try this at work tomorrow to. Hopefully this or
the other suggestions I've had will get it working otherwise it's a mystery
game when I send an email as to whether it will make any sense to the
recipient!

Paul Lemm

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: 09 October 2012 00:29
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: jaws won't read message in outlook 2003 with j14 beta 2

Paul,

I had a similar problem with my Windows Mail. It not only did not read the
message body reliably, but also would not report the status bar.

The way I solved it was to have Windows Mail open, and then close and reload
JAWS 14. It worked fine after that, and I didn't have to perform that step
again.

I'm thinking that JAWS 14 needed to wake up and acquire the window
dimensions and parameters and store them in some sort of default cache.

At least that's my layman's impression.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com>
To: <Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 15:10
Subject: jaws won't read message in outlook 2003 with j14 beta 2


Hi,

I'm running the beta 2 jaws 14 at work using xp and outlook 2003. When I
go to type a new message or reply jaws reads the to, cc, subject fields all
fine but then when I go to the message jaws announces 'message but won't
read any text from the message such as my signature, I can type
text and hear the typing echo as I type but then can't go back and review
or hear any of the text I have written its like I'm in a blank email. Has
anyone else had this problem?

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Re: jaws won't read message in outlook 2003 with j14 beta 2

paul lemm
 

Hi Phillip,

Thanks for the advice I'll try that tomorrow when I'm at work and see if it
works.. it would make sense since it is only on outgoing emails I send and
not on incoming emails.
Paul Lemm

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Philip
Anderson
Sent: 09 October 2012 00:01
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: jaws won't read message in outlook 2003 with j14 beta 2

I've had similar problems reading table-based messages. It's as though I'm
viewing a blank page with the up and down arrow keys pingging everytime I
attempt to manipulate them.

Have you checked your text field settings. It may have defaulted to html as
opposed to plain text? If not, try restoring your system back to an earlier
point - preferably back to a day or so before the problem occured.

If you need help doing this, please do not hesitate to get in touch.

Best

Philip

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: 08 October 2012 23:49
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: jaws won't read message in outlook 2003 with j14 beta 2

did you report it to FS?



At 06:10 PM 10/8/2012, you wrote:
Hi,

I'm running the beta 2 jaws 14 at work using xp and outlook 2003.
When I go to type a new message or reply jaws reads the to, cc,
subject fields all fine but then when I go to the message jaws
announces 'message but won't
read any text from the message such as my signature, I
can type
text and hear the typing echo as I type but then can't go back and
review or hear any of the text I have written its like I'm in a blank
email. Has anyone else had this problem?

Paul Lemm





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Re: jaws won't read message in outlook 2003 with j14 beta 2

paul lemm
 

No haven't reported it to jaws, I thought I'd check here for advise first in
case it was something I was doing wrong. I will try the suggestions and if
they don't work report the issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: 08 October 2012 23:49
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: jaws won't read message in outlook 2003 with j14 beta 2

did you report it to FS?



At 06:10 PM 10/8/2012, you wrote:
Hi,

I'm running the beta 2 jaws 14 at work using xp and outlook 2003.
When I go to type a new message or reply jaws reads the to, cc,
subject fields all fine but then when I go to the message jaws
announces 'message but won't
read any text from the message such as my signature, I
can type
text and hear the typing echo as I type but then can't go back and
review or hear any of the text I have written its like I'm in a blank
email. Has anyone else had this problem?

Paul Lemm





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Re: Stopping windows from popping in browser

Dave...
 

Steve,

There may be more than one reason why the page is refreshing. Chris'
instructions will help to stop with automatic updates, but I think that if
the page is designed to change based on a selection in a combo list or
drop-down list, then it will update as soon as you tab away from that
element. And I don't think there's a way to prevent it, since it needs to
change the page at that point to be contextually-relevant.

Those are the pages that usually throw the virtual cursor off somewhere in
the weeds, requiring that you once again navigate to where you intended to
be.


Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
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To: "jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 11:20
Subject: Stopping windows from popping in browser


I have an application whose control panel contains an ever-changing
Web page, displayed in my browser of choice. The refresh rate is every
five seconds, unchangeable. Didn't there used to be, or, is there
still, a way in JAWS to ignore the ever-popping-up window and freeze
the thing to give you enough time to get at whatever you need to get
at in there? If so, what is it?

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Re: serial number

George Marshall
 

James mine is 11xx.

George R. Marshall
marshall.geoma4@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 1:18 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: serial number

Sounds like I've got most of you beat if we're going by serial numbers. I
started running both JAWS for DOS and JAWS for Windows, back in the JFW 2.0
and Windows 3.1 days. My serial number's 59xx (yes, it's only 4 digits).

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Abby Vincent
Sent: October 8, 2012 11:58 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: serial number

I started with JAWS for DOS. My number starts with 83 and has remained the
same, even with the transition to JAWS for Windows. It doesn't look like
the theory that the lower your serial number, the earlier you started using
JAWS is true. I also remember when you had to have an external speech
synthesizer to use JAWS, or any other screen reader. Now, thank goodness,
you can use your sound card.
Enjoy Indigenous Peoples' Day,
Abby

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of john.falter
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 8:19 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: serial number

I don't think you can go that way. I got JAWS in '96 and my number is about
7400.
----- Original Message -----
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To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 8:45 AM
Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific Petition


Hi,
I believe I started with JAWS in 1993 and my sn is 49XX.
I think I started with version 3.something.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel
Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 5:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific Petition

No, I started using jaws during the transition period between jfw8 and 9.
I
have had several SMAs in the meantime as well as purchasing the remote
access option, but my SN has not changed.

On 10/2/12, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Good idea. Mine is 35xxx and I purchased back in version 3.5. However
it may

be that a new purchase serial number maintains the first digits as
the version in force at the time. My 35xxx aligns with version 3.5.
Was your first version 4.2?

IF this is the scheme, then FS allowed for up to 1000 new users per
version,

and might change the serial prefix with each new version. We'd have
to collect a fair number of serial numbers to be sure of this.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 15:02
Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific Petition


Well, we could make a guess by serial numbers.

My jaws serial number is about 427400 and I purchased jaws in late
2007 if memory serves.

I am pretty sure FS does in fact use incremental SN, not some odd
pattern with lots of holes. If we had someone who is a very recent
purchaser we could get an idea about both the overall population as
well as how fast it is growing.

On 10/2/12, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Nope, and no idea.

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 14:45
Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific Petition


I wonder if FS would release the number of licences or users they
have sold. Do we know how many Jaws users there are?

On 10/2/2012 10:24 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

There is absolutely no way that two thirds of all blind people use
JAWS.
There are an estimated 1.2 million people in the US classified as
legally blind, but only a small fraction, perhaps less than 10% use
computers with screen readers. The overwhelming majority of blind
people do not use computers, so the actual number of JAWS users is
probably quite small. Also, an estimated 70% of blind people are
unemployed, so they would have little or no means of acquiring
computers or commercial screen readers. And the vast majority of
JAWS users do not belong to this or other blind-tech related
mailing lists, so they would have no way of learning about the
petition. FS keeps the number of JAWS customers a closely guarded
secret, so nobody really knows how many blind people are actually
using it. But if I had to venture a guess, I would say that the
number of JAWS users might be somewhere between 50,000 and 150,000,
but this is only a wild guess not based on any facts or evidence.

Gerald


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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 11:45 AM
Subject: Freedom Scientific Petition


All:
As promised, I am about to put the Freedom Scientific "Gimmick
Feature Moratorium" petition up on the Internet. Before doing so,
I have a couple of questions:

1. The Change.org petition form suggests (perhaps requires) a
sign-up goal. I'd be interested in suggestions as to the number
of JAWS users that should sign such a petition to be considered a
success. One of those helping with the drafting of the petition
has information that two thirds of all blind persons use JAWS.
Does anyone have any idea how many people that is? What would be
a reasonable percentage of signers to expect? Looking for
suggestions here. I'm happy to accept responses off-line. Although
this is JAWS-related, I don't want to spark a flurry of off-topic
discussions
again.
2. Change.org is, to my way of thinking, a little awkward when it
comes to screen reader usage. It isn't bad, but there are some
less than intuitive prompts. I would like this petition to be on
the most accessible public petition Website possible. Would
anyone on the list perhaps know of a site for a public petition
that is better and/or more accessible than is Change.org?
Thanks to the off-line support and drafting assistance. We've
tried to accommodate the views expressed on this list and
elsewhere even though, in some instances, the interests were not
always
congruent.
In the petition, we have not cited specific issues. I actually
started to do that, but I wanted to get the petition up before
Christmas. <SMILE> Thanks for all your help!


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Re: What antispyware works well with JFW 10 and up on 7 or XP?

James Homuth
 

Most antivirus programs say that. And yeah, okay, most of them will pick up
the small stuff. But you're more likely to get hit with a spyware infection
than a virus most of the time, and the major stuff, your virus scanner's
gonna miss.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: October 9, 2012 2:20 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What antispyware works well with JFW 10 and up on 7 or XP?

really? I was under the impression that it scanned for both viruses
and spyware.
According to Microsoft: "Use Microsoft Security Essentials to guard
against viruses, spyware, and other evil software."

Chris

At 02:08 PM 10/9/2012, you wrote:
Incorrect. That is not an anti-spyware program.

On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 23:33:04 -0400, you wrote:

nononono.
go with Microsoft Security Esentials. It's free and accessible.



At 07:47 PM 10/6/2012, you wrote:
I just recommended Spybot Search and Destroy to someone with a
Windows
7 system and JAWS 11. I tried it on my XP+JAWS10 system, and we
both
had disastrous results with accessibility, plus my machine hung
itself
on the next-to-last file being scanned. I have subsequently removed
SS&D from my system. My friend who was trying it along with me
unfortunately did something I would never recommend anyone
do--namely,
he clicked the "Fix problems" button, and his system will no longer
run JAWS! I'm sure he'll fix that on his own. But I thought before
going back and trying another one of these things, I'd ask in
here and
see what people know and think about things like SS&D, Super
Antispyware Doctor, etc., in terms of accessibility. SS&D sure
didn't
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Re: a question on flexible web and IHeart Radio web site

William Sallander <wsallander@...>
 

Hello everyone

I tried a few more things including trying to set it as a global rule but the problem still exists.
I meant to mention that I was using IE9 and vista 64 bit edition.
I also tried using Firefox and all seems to work fine so I suspect it might have to do with the way IE9 displays the page and all subsequent pages.
Will mess with it a bit more and send in the report later on tonight.

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: a question on flexible web and IHeart Radio web site


Good point, John. That could help William.

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 06:57
Subject: Re: a question on flexible web and IHeart Radio web site


Have you specified apply the rule globally?
----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 7:43 AM
Subject: a question on flexible web and IHeart Radio web site


Hello all

I've been recently working with the flexible web feature on the latest
beta for jaws 14.
I notice when I try to set up a rule for the Iheart Radio web site, the
flexible web feature only works partially.
On the home page, I can get all frames to hide and therefore making it a
clean read.
However, when I try going to the "my stations" page or the "create
station" page, I can see the frames again and when trying to hide them
again they won't go away.
I've believe I've tried everything to either recreate the rule or at least
build a new one but no good.
Has anyone else that might use that site have the same problem? I'm
checking here first before I submit a bug report.
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Re: Stopping windows from popping in browser

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

Hi Steve.

If you press Insert+V for quick settings from within your browser, then arrow down once to get into the list of options. Hit the letter P and you should land on "page refresh automatically". The available options are off, on, and every 60 seconds.

hope that helps.
Chris

At 02:20 PM 10/9/2012, you wrote:
I have an application whose control panel contains an ever-changing
Web page, displayed in my browser of choice. The refresh rate is every
five seconds, unchangeable. Didn't there used to be, or, is there
still, a way in JAWS to ignore the ever-popping-up window and freeze
the thing to give you enough time to get at whatever you need to get
at in there? If so, what is it?

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Re: What antispyware works well with JFW 10 and up on 7 or XP?

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

really? I was under the impression that it scanned for both viruses and spyware.
According to Microsoft: "Use Microsoft Security Essentials to guard against viruses, spyware, and other evil software."

Chris

At 02:08 PM 10/9/2012, you wrote:
Incorrect. That is not an anti-spyware program.

On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 23:33:04 -0400, you wrote:

nononono.
go with Microsoft Security Esentials. It's free and accessible.



At 07:47 PM 10/6/2012, you wrote:
I just recommended Spybot Search and Destroy to someone with a
Windows
7 system and JAWS 11. I tried it on my XP+JAWS10 system, and we
both
had disastrous results with accessibility, plus my machine hung
itself
on the next-to-last file being scanned. I have subsequently removed
SS&D from my system. My friend who was trying it along with me
unfortunately did something I would never recommend anyone
do--namely,
he clicked the "Fix problems" button, and his system will no longer
run JAWS! I'm sure he'll fix that on his own. But I thought before
going back and trying another one of these things, I'd ask in
here and
see what people know and think about things like SS&D, Super
Antispyware Doctor, etc., in terms of accessibility. SS&D sure
didn't
have it.

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