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Flexible Web in JAWS 14 is a Hit!

Dave...
 

Just after sending out my petition to FS to stop adding features and focus on fixing bugs, they roll out this feature in the Beta 2 cycle.

Skeptical as I am, I listened to the Podcast and then intrigued, I gave it a spin with a site I use in my J-O-B every day: Sales Force dot com

What a time saver! Now I can get rid of so much clutter that I needed to tab or search through on every visit to the site to enter sales data. Cuts down my tabbing by more than 50% and speeds up searching by headers and tables. My left pinky finger will last longer and perhaps not develop arthritis quite as soon now.

All kidding aside, this is a truly beneficial tool to use for anyone who uses certain web sites repeatedly, and similar web sites occasionally. I'd say it's the best breakthrough since they made MS Excel accessible -- it's that astounding.

So if you haven't tried it and you have the Beta 2 cycle loaded, don't waste any more time without trying it out.

Damry and company, you've made my next SMA worth the money.


Dave Carlson
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Re: Flexible web and Internet explorer 9.

Juan Pablo <jpculasso@...>
 

Hello, I deleted files with extension jcf, jsb and jss located in this folder_
C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\14.0\Settings\enu
I did it because I never make own configs to Internet explorer. After that, flexible web is working very nice.

-----Original Message-----
From: john.falter
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:40 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Flexible web and Internet explorer 9.

Would you please list the specific files you deleted and the folders you
found them in.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Juan Pablo" <jpculasso@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: Flexible web and Internet explorer 9.


Finally I fiexed it. The problem was that in the user jaws configurations folder there was some files targetting internet explorer. .jcf, .jss and .jsb. But I never did speciffic configurations to IE. I deleted these files and now flexible web is working on Ie9.
best,
Juan.

-----Original Message-----
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:51 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Flexible web and Internet explorer 9.

I am using window seven home 64 using IE 9 without no issues.

-----Original Message-----
From: Juan Pablo
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 4:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Flexible web and Internet explorer 9.

Hi all,

I just updated from beta 1 to beta2 a some seconds ago.
Ofcourse the first thing to try is the new Flexible web
My machine is a 64 bit windows 7 ultimate running internet explorer 9 and
Mozilla firefox.
So, In FF flexible web works greatly well. The dificulties apeare when I try
to do the same in IE. After pressing the Insert plus space bar plus x, Jaws
speaks the following message:
Flexible Web is not Abailable for this application.

Anyone can duplicate this issue?

Best,
Juan.
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Re: Flexible web and Internet explorer 9.

john.falter
 

Would you please list the specific files you deleted and the folders you found them in.

----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: Flexible web and Internet explorer 9.


Finally I fiexed it. The problem was that in the user jaws configurations folder there was some files targetting internet explorer. .jcf, .jss and .jsb. But I never did speciffic configurations to IE. I deleted these files and now flexible web is working on Ie9.
best,
Juan.

-----Original Message-----
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:51 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Flexible web and Internet explorer 9.

I am using window seven home 64 using IE 9 without no issues.

-----Original Message-----
From: Juan Pablo
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 4:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Flexible web and Internet explorer 9.

Hi all,

I just updated from beta 1 to beta2 a some seconds ago.
Ofcourse the first thing to try is the new Flexible web
My machine is a 64 bit windows 7 ultimate running internet explorer 9 and
Mozilla firefox.
So, In FF flexible web works greatly well. The dificulties apeare when I try
to do the same in IE. After pressing the Insert plus space bar plus x, Jaws
speaks the following message:
Flexible Web is not Abailable for this application.

Anyone can duplicate this issue?

Best,
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Re: using jaws and talking to a person through the same headset

dave grossoehme
 

Good Day: The question here would be if they are using a hard phone which
is a standard telephone, or a softphone which is software that works as a
telephone. A lot of companies are using Avaya, if this company that you
wish to work for has Avaya there are scripts that have been written for
Jaws. The other question you might wish to find out is what the name of the
software that they are using for a softphone, considering a lot of your call
centers are using a softphone of some kind. Good luck.
Your Friend Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of William
Sallander
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 11:48 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: using jaws and talking to a person through the same headset

First of all, are you using a regular phone to log in to the system for you
to take calls or is this via a VOIP system (strictly computer)?
I believe it might depend on how the company utilizes the phone system and
the required equipment.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hank & Patty" <hank1patty@eastlink.ca>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:21 AM
Subject: using jaws and talking to a person through the same headset



Hello,

I am wondering please what is the cheapest, simplest way to setup a
headset with a built in mike that will enable me for sure, to hear a
customer properly in say only the left ear wile talking to them through
the mike and with that same headset also hear properly and loud enough
Jaws in only the right ear, so I can handle properly and quickly inbound
customer service inquiries using a laptop computer and the internet? Is
there maybe a small external box I can buy that I would plug into my
computer and then plug the headset into this small external box that will
enable me to hear a customer in only the left ear and also hear jaws only
in the right ear of that same headset?
Any help with this would be so very much appreciated. Much thanks in
advance.



Kindest regards,

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Re: Accessibility training using various applications

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

This is an extremely cool site; thanks to both of you.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of robert
hebert
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 12:31 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Accessability training using various applications

This seems to me like a link to a valuable resource and as almost every
post
is a plea for help, I have changed the subject line to be a wee bit more
specific.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
Spratt
Sent: October-02-12 7:45 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: need help

Shan,

It's great that you contributed this information. I'm re-posting the
link
so that anyone interested can follow up. To make a link work, add a
return
key before and after it. Here goes:
http://www.karlencommunications.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shan Noyes
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:15 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: need help

Hi: Last week I took training on using Microsoft word, Microsoft xl,
outlook, and powerpoint from an accessibility perspective.
The course was was aimed at professionals who have been using access
equipment for a while. Anyways I was really impressed by the Microsoft
office training that was provided. Anyways here's a link to the
person's
site who gave the training. http://www.karlencommunications.comcheck it
out
and hopefully it will meet your needs. Karen is certified by Microsoft
and
she has written numerous books on how to use the Office products from an
accessibility point of view. I sure found the training to be of a high
quality and now I'm confident that I can build my own power point slide
presentations that look professional, and the ribbons are not scary any
more
for me.

Have a good evening.
Shan Noyes




-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: October-01-12 9:39 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: need help

www.blindtraining.com has textbooks which you may purchase to help you
use
the topics you mentioned.
However, I don't think there is a book on jaws 13 and the latest is jaws
12
for books. Not sure.
Along with the books come audio tutorials to listen to.
Hth.




Kimsan Song
Online Access Technology Trainer
Phone:
1-877-774-7670
www.BlindAccessTraining.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Smart
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 8:16 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: need help



are you asking for tutorials? I'm not sure I understand your question.

At 10:36 AM 10/1/2012, you wrote:
Hello I was wondering if anyone has or knows where to get different
text or audio information on different programs on the computer. for
example



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Microsoft office 2007 and 2010

Jaws 13

Mozzlia firefox

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Re: using jaws and talking to a person through the same headset

William Sallander <wsallander@...>
 

First of all, are you using a regular phone to log in to the system for you to take calls or is this via a VOIP system (strictly computer)?
I believe it might depend on how the company utilizes the phone system and the required equipment.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hank & Patty" <hank1patty@eastlink.ca>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:21 AM
Subject: using jaws and talking to a person through the same headset



Hello,

I am wondering please what is the cheapest, simplest way to setup a headset with a built in mike that will enable me for sure, to hear a customer properly in say only the left ear wile talking to them through the mike and with that same headset also hear properly and loud enough Jaws in only the right ear, so I can handle properly and quickly inbound customer service inquiries using a laptop computer and the internet? Is there maybe a small external box I can buy that I would plug into my computer and then plug the headset into this small external box that will enable me to hear a customer in only the left ear and also hear jaws only in the right ear of that same headset?
Any help with this would be so very much appreciated. Much thanks in advance.



Kindest regards,

Hank

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Re: how friendly please is jaws with the Sykes Enterprises call centrehome based web based software?

William Sallander <wsallander@...>
 

I'm wondering if they might be able to have you look at the software first before an actual commit to the position.
My past experience with a home based CSR company was that when I actually went to the website with them on the phone, it was full of graphics and therefore not screen reader friendly.
They of course said they were working on that but so far I had heard nothing; this was about 4 years ago.
So my best advice is to check out the software first if that is at all possible.
The best of luck to you.

----- Original Message -----
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To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:51 AM
Subject: how friendly please is jaws with the Sykes Enterprises call centrehome based web based software?



Hello,

I am wondering please, if anyone on the list maybe works from home for the Sykes Enterprises Inc. call centre as a home based customer service agent because I am wondering how good Jaws works with the web pages or web based software that Sykes Enterprises has the home based customer service agents use to take care daily of incoming customer service inquiries?

I ask this about how friendly is jaws with the sykes enterprises call centre home based web based software because as of yesterday, I have been hired by sykes enterprises to work as a home based customer service agent. Any help I can get on this matter would be very much appreciated. Much thanks in advance.



Warmest regards,

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Re: how friendly please is jaws with the Sykes Enterprises call centre home based web based software?

dave grossoehme
 

Good Morning: Were there other positions available in their company?
Please send on what information you find, considering there might be other
people on this list including myself.
Your Friend Dave

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Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 7:51 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: how friendly please is jaws with the Sykes Enterprises call centre
home based web based software?


Hello,

I am wondering please, if anyone on the list maybe works from home for the
Sykes Enterprises Inc. call centre as a home based customer service agent
because I am wondering how good Jaws works with the web pages or web based
software that Sykes Enterprises has the home based customer service agents
use to take care daily of incoming customer service inquiries?

I ask this about how friendly is jaws with the sykes enterprises call centre
home based web based software because as of yesterday, I have been hired by
sykes enterprises to work as a home based customer service agent. Any help I
can get on this matter would be very much appreciated. Much thanks in
advance.



Warmest regards,

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Re: copy script to older version of Jaws

Dave...
 

By script source files, you are referring to the .jss file, just for
clarity's sake, correct?


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 07:18
Subject: Re: copy script to older version of Jaws


Scripts that have been compiled (the .jsb files) with jaws 13 can not
be used with earlier versions. However .jsb files from earlier
versions can be used with jfw13.

And none of his prevents you from copying the script source files and
re-compiling them with the earlier version.

On 10/4/12, Robert Logue <bobcat11@telusplanet.net> wrote:
Thanks Dave. I'll do a backup first and give it a go.

I'm going backwards because I wanted to check something that started
recently where Jaws doesn't read newly opened messages from the
beginning. I think The bug started in 13.

Bob

On 10/4/2012 1:34 PM, Farfar Carlson wrote:
You're trying to go backward? That could work, but make sure to back up
all
your files in the ENU folder before you overwrite any of them.

There may be script-dependent features in the JFW 13 files that won't
work
with JFW 12.

I'm pretty sure you can't use JAWS 13 and a source for merging into JAWS
12.


Dave Carlson
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Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


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To: "JFW" <Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:53
Subject: copy script to older version of Jaws


I've created frames and configurations for Thunderbird in Jaws 13 and
wonder if I can copy them over to 12 or do I need to recreate thehm?

Bob

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Re: copy script to older version of Jaws

Soronel Haetir
 

Scripts that have been compiled (the .jsb files) with jaws 13 can not
be used with earlier versions. However .jsb files from earlier
versions can be used with jfw13.

And none of his prevents you from copying the script source files and
re-compiling them with the earlier version.

On 10/4/12, Robert Logue <bobcat11@telusplanet.net> wrote:
Thanks Dave. I'll do a backup first and give it a go.

I'm going backwards because I wanted to check something that started
recently where Jaws doesn't read newly opened messages from the
beginning. I think The bug started in 13.

Bob

On 10/4/2012 1:34 PM, Farfar Carlson wrote:
You're trying to go backward? That could work, but make sure to back up
all
your files in the ENU folder before you overwrite any of them.

There may be script-dependent features in the JFW 13 files that won't
work
with JFW 12.

I'm pretty sure you can't use JAWS 13 and a source for merging into JAWS
12.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


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To: "JFW" <Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:53
Subject: copy script to older version of Jaws


I've created frames and configurations for Thunderbird in Jaws 13 and
wonder if I can copy them over to 12 or do I need to recreate thehm?

Bob

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Re: using jaws and talking to a person through the same headset

Dave...
 

Not cheap, but you need a headset that's not off-the-rack. You need two
completely separate monaural signals and one microphone return.

Plantronics makes a couple specially designed for that purpose, one
connecting via USB+headset, the other connecting via telephone+headset.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

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To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 06:21
Subject: using jaws and talking to a person through the same headset



Hello,

I am wondering please what is the cheapest, simplest way to setup a headset
with a built in mike that will enable me for sure, to hear a customer
properly in say only the left ear wile talking to them through the mike and
with that same headset also hear properly and loud enough Jaws in only the
right ear, so I can handle properly and quickly inbound customer service
inquiries using a laptop computer and the internet? Is there maybe a small
external box I can buy that I would plug into my computer and then plug the
headset into this small external box that will enable me to hear a customer
in only the left ear and also hear jaws only in the right ear of that same
headset?
Any help with this would be so very much appreciated. Much thanks in
advance.



Kindest regards,

Hank

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Re: using jaws and talking to a person through the same headset

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Plantronics offers just the device you're looking for. A local office
supplier should be able to help here. I found the t uncomfortable to
use, but it's available.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Hank &
Patty
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:22 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: using jaws and talking to a person through the same headset


Hello,

I am wondering please what is the cheapest, simplest way to setup a
headset with a built in mike that will enable me for sure, to hear a
customer properly in say only the left ear wile talking to them through
the mike and with that same headset also hear properly and loud enough
Jaws in only the right ear, so I can handle properly and quickly inbound
customer service inquiries using a laptop computer and the internet? Is
there maybe a small external box I can buy that I would plug into my
computer and then plug the headset into this small external box that
will enable me to hear a customer in only the left ear and also hear
jaws only in the right ear of that same headset?
Any help with this would be so very much appreciated. Much thanks in
advance.



Kindest regards,

Hank

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Re: using jaws and talking to a person through the same headset

Deb and the girls
 

You have to have a special dual headset. You hear the computer in one ear and the caller in the other.
I have worked for Citibank for 31 years now and that is how it is best done.


using jaws and talking to a person through the same headset

Hank & Patty <hank1patty@...>
 

Hello,

I am wondering please what is the cheapest, simplest way to setup a headset with a built in mike that will enable me for sure, to hear a customer properly in say only the left ear wile talking to them through the mike and with that same headset also hear properly and loud enough Jaws in only the right ear, so I can handle properly and quickly inbound customer service inquiries using a laptop computer and the internet? Is there maybe a small external box I can buy that I would plug into my computer and then plug the headset into this small external box that will enable me to hear a customer in only the left ear and also hear jaws only in the right ear of that same headset?
Any help with this would be so very much appreciated. Much thanks in advance.



Kindest regards,

Hank

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using jaws with inbound home based call centres

Hank & Patty <hank1patty@...>
 

Hello,

I am wondering please if anyone on the list works at home as a home based agent for an inbound call center using Jaws and if so, can you please tell me how user friendly do you find jaws is with the web based software you use as a home based agent for the inbound call centre you work for? Much, much thanks in advance for any help I can get with this.



Kindest regards,

Hank


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how friendly please is jaws with the Sykes Enterprises call centre home based web based software?

Hank & Patty <hank1patty@...>
 

Hello,

I am wondering please, if anyone on the list maybe works from home for the Sykes Enterprises Inc. call centre as a home based customer service agent because I am wondering how good Jaws works with the web pages or web based software that Sykes Enterprises has the home based customer service agents use to take care daily of incoming customer service inquiries?

I ask this about how friendly is jaws with the sykes enterprises call centre home based web based software because as of yesterday, I have been hired by sykes enterprises to work as a home based customer service agent. Any help I can get on this matter would be very much appreciated. Much thanks in advance.



Warmest regards,

Hank W. Merchant

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Re: Freedom Scientific Petition

George Marshall
 

Cy I think sometime in 93, I was one of the first for JAWS 1.0. At that time
I was still working at the Lee County School District.


George R. Marshall
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 1:41 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific Petition

There seems to no real relationship between S/N and when they were issued.
When did you start using JAWS?
I started in 93 and I am 49XX.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of George
Marshall
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:35 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific Petition

If we are playing how low can you go, mine is 11xx.

George R. Marshall
marshall.geoma4@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of George B
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 9:06 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific Petition

well my sn is 17xx

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy
Selfridge
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 05:46
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific Petition

Hi,
I believe I started with JAWS in 1993 and my sn is 49XX.
I think I started with version 3.something.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel
Haetir
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 5:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific Petition

No, I started using jaws during the transition period between jfw8 and
9. I have had several SMAs in the meantime as well as purchasing the
remote access option, but my SN has not changed.

On 10/2/12, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Good idea. Mine is 35xxx and I purchased back in version 3.5.
However it may

be that a new purchase serial number maintains the first digits as
the
version in force at the time. My 35xxx aligns with version 3.5. Was
your first version 4.2?

IF this is the scheme, then FS allowed for up to 1000 new users per
version,

and might change the serial prefix with each new version. We'd have
to
collect a fair number of serial numbers to be sure of this.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 15:02
Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific Petition


Well, we could make a guess by serial numbers.

My jaws serial number is about 427400 and I purchased jaws in late
2007 if memory serves.

I am pretty sure FS does in fact use incremental SN, not some odd
pattern with lots of holes. If we had someone who is a very recent
purchaser we could get an idea about both the overall population as
well as how fast it is growing.

On 10/2/12, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Nope, and no idea.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a
Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional
32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Logue" <bobcat11@telusplanet.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 14:45
Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific Petition


I wonder if FS would release the number of licences or users they
have sold. Do we know how many Jaws users there are?

On 10/2/2012 10:24 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:

There is absolutely no way that two thirds of all blind people use
JAWS.
There are an estimated 1.2 million people in the US classified as
legally blind, but only a small fraction, perhaps less than 10%
use computers with screen readers. The overwhelming majority of
blind people do not use computers, so the actual number of JAWS
users is probably quite small. Also, an estimated 70% of blind
people are unemployed, so they would have little or no means of
acquiring computers or commercial screen readers. And the vast
majority of JAWS users do not belong to this or other blind-tech
related
mailing
lists, so they would have no way of learning about the petition.
FS
keeps the number of JAWS customers a closely guarded secret, so
nobody really knows how many blind people are actually using it.
But
if I had to venture a guess, I would say that the number of JAWS
users might be somewhere between 50,000 and 150,000, but this is
only a wild guess not based on any facts or evidence.

Gerald


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<Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 11:45 AM
Subject: Freedom Scientific Petition


All:
As promised, I am about to put the Freedom Scientific "Gimmick
Feature Moratorium" petition up on the Internet. Before doing
so, I have a couple of questions:

1. The Change.org petition form suggests (perhaps requires) a
sign-up goal. I'd be interested in suggestions as to the number
of
JAWS users that should sign such a petition to be considered a
success. One of those helping with the drafting of the petition
has information that two thirds of all blind persons use JAWS.
Does anyone have any idea how many people that is? What would be
a
reasonable percentage of signers to expect? Looking for
suggestions
here. I'm happy to accept responses off-line. Although this is
JAWS-related, I don't want to spark a flurry of off-topic
discussions
again.
2. Change.org is, to my way of thinking, a little awkward when
it comes to screen reader usage. It isn't bad, but there are
some less than intuitive prompts. I would like this petition to
be on the most accessible public petition Website possible.
Would
anyone
on the list perhaps know of a site for a public petition that is
better and/or more accessible than is Change.org?
Thanks to the off-line support and drafting assistance. We've
tried to accommodate the views expressed on this list and
elsewhere
even though, in some instances, the interests were not always
congruent.
In the petition, we have not cited specific issues. I actually
started to do that, but I wanted to get the petition up before
Christmas. <SMILE> Thanks for all your help!


I. Edward Marquette
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Re: copy script to older version of Jaws

Robert Logue <bobcat11@...>
 

Thanks Dave. I'll do a backup first and give it a go.

I'm going backwards because I wanted to check something that started recently where Jaws doesn't read newly opened messages from the beginning. I think The bug started in 13.

Bob

On 10/4/2012 1:34 PM, Farfar Carlson wrote:
You're trying to go backward? That could work, but make sure to back up all
your files in the ENU folder before you overwrite any of them.

There may be script-dependent features in the JFW 13 files that won't work
with JFW 12.

I'm pretty sure you can't use JAWS 13 and a source for merging into JAWS 12.


Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 11:53
Subject: copy script to older version of Jaws


I've created frames and configurations for Thunderbird in Jaws 13 and
wonder if I can copy them over to 12 or do I need to recreate thehm?

Bob

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Re: Flexible web and Internet explorer 9.

Juan Pablo <jpculasso@...>
 

Finally I fiexed it. The problem was that in the user jaws configurations folder there was some files targetting internet explorer. .jcf, .jss and .jsb. But I never did speciffic configurations to IE. I deleted these files and now flexible web is working on Ie9.
best,
Juan.

-----Original Message-----
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:51 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Flexible web and Internet explorer 9.

I am using window seven home 64 using IE 9 without no issues.

-----Original Message-----
From: Juan Pablo
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 4:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Flexible web and Internet explorer 9.

Hi all,

I just updated from beta 1 to beta2 a some seconds ago.
Ofcourse the first thing to try is the new Flexible web
My machine is a 64 bit windows 7 ultimate running internet explorer 9 and
Mozilla firefox.
So, In FF flexible web works greatly well. The dificulties apeare when I try
to do the same in IE. After pressing the Insert plus space bar plus x, Jaws
speaks the following message:
Flexible Web is not Abailable for this application.

Anyone can duplicate this issue?

Best,
Juan.
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Re: Spotify and Jaws:

Dave...
 

Don't know those applications. However you've got time, so why not go to
your local library and check out some music CDs of that genre and rip them
to a music playlist?

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Stebbins" <p.stebb@gmail.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 18:01
Subject: Spotify and Jaws:


Hello everyone, We're hosting a Halloween dance party, at my apartment
building. I need to play about four hours of spesific songs from the
thirties, fourties, fifties, and sixties. I don't want to purchase
the songs. I just want to use them once and then discard them. Can
anyone please tell me if Spotify works with Jaws? Would Rhapsody
blind be a better choice? Thanks, Paul Stebbins.

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