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Re: //sending in WLM

Adrian Spratt
 

I mention these hotkeys only because Outlook is also an MS program. Try
alt+s and, if that fails, control+enter and see if they work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 4:34 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: //sending in WLM

The send later button is on the options tab, I'm not aware of any hotkey for
triggering it.

On 9/28/12, Stan Holdeman <sholdeman@msn.com> wrote:
Listers: Using jaws 13 in Windows Live Mail.

The big problem is now to find a way to send this message. I will
eventually probably find some way to do it after much mushing around
in ribbons and such.

Can someone tell me a direct way to send or send later?

Thanks, Stan
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Re: //sending in WLM

Soronel Haetir
 

The send later button is on the options tab, I'm not aware of any
hotkey for triggering it.

On 9/28/12, Stan Holdeman <sholdeman@msn.com> wrote:
Listers: Using jaws 13 in Windows Live Mail.

The big problem is now to find a way to send this message. I will eventually
probably find some way to do it after much mushing around in ribbons and
such.

Can someone tell me a direct way to send or send later?

Thanks, Stan
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//sending in WLM

Stan Holdeman
 

Listers: Using jaws 13 in Windows Live Mail.

The big problem is now to find a way to send this message. I will eventually probably find some way to do it after much mushing around in ribbons and such.

Can someone tell me a direct way to send or send later?

Thanks, Stan
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Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Heck, just sit it out. Unlike with JFW, you don't pay a penalty for
standing pat.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy
Selfridge
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

Until someone threatens me with my life or dyre harm to my computers I
am not going to leap into the future for a good year or so.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

I think the product cycle for 7 was too short, especially given
Microsoft's recent track record of one good OS, followed by one dog.
The jury is out on 8, but I've read some strong opinions pro and conn.
Gone are the days when you could sit out a DOS 4, while awaiting
something good. OEM agreements guarantee healthy sales, no matter how
bad it is.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy
Selfridge
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

This is true but continuing to keep up with the Jones sure gets
expensive.
If you have to upgrade in order to communicate with your work
environment that is one thing but if you keep upgrading just to be on
the cutting edge then that is, IMO, foolish and you have more money than
I do. (LOLLOLLOL) We are now looking at W8 and I just got used to W7.
The comment by FS that the solution was to go to JAWS 14 and W8 was,
IMO, idiot advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:06 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

"I was told (a couple of years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with
W7."

So was I. but I've learned to work with the ribbons and get on with
evolution. The ribbons aren't going away, and there's just a point when
fighting upstream becomes more time-consuming than just learning.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 08:56
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


You know, I wish I had known that one coule use Office 2003 with W7. It
would have saved me quite a bit of money. (sad face) I was told (a
couple of years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with W7.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jon
Pierson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hi,
It does, I am writing with it right now under Win7.

Jon



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dennis
Clark
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hello,
I was afraid that might be the case. Outlook 2003 won't work on Windows
7.
What problem are you trying to solve by doing this?
Dennis


----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am using Windows 7.
I have found a version ofOutlook 2003 and havethe Student version of
Office 10 which has Word, Access 10 and Excel but no Outlook 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hello Which version of Windows are you using? Thanks

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:03 PM
Subject: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am considering installing Outlook 2003 onto my computer.
Next I will install Acces 10, Word 10 and Excel 10.

Why should that not work?

Thanks.
Thanks.

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Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

You know, it did a really good job for us. All the folks who raved
about XP should know that it was built on the NT foundation, and Media
Center was just XP Pro with that one addition.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

Ted,

Did you know that "NT" actually stood for "Nice Try"? Or was that "Not
Tested"? Can't recall, exactly.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:54
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?


You'd better know it. Our shop is so conservative that an OS is almost
off the market before we adopt it. We missed Vista altogether, and
thank goodness for that. In the past 16 years, we've used 3.11, 95, NT,
XP (NT with a facelift)and now 7.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Keen
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

Hi,

Eeven most large companies don't upgrade to every OS as it comes out,
there are still companies out there using xp and vista. To do so would
pose a programming and logistics nightmare.



Shawn



----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:42 PM
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?


I think the product cycle for 7 was too short, especially given
Microsoft's recent track record of one good OS, followed by one dog.
The jury is out on 8, but I've read some strong opinions pro and conn.
Gone are the days when you could sit out a DOS 4, while awaiting
something good. OEM agreements guarantee healthy sales, no matter how
bad it is.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy
Selfridge
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

This is true but continuing to keep up with the Jones sure gets
expensive.
If you have to upgrade in order to communicate with your work
environment that is one thing but if you keep upgrading just to be on
the cutting edge then that is, IMO, foolish and you have more money
than
I do. (LOLLOLLOL) We are now looking at W8 and I just got used to W7.
The comment by FS that the solution was to go to JAWS 14 and W8 was,
IMO, idiot advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:06 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

"I was told (a couple of years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with
W7."

So was I. but I've learned to work with the ribbons and get on with
evolution. The ribbons aren't going away, and there's just a point
when
fighting upstream becomes more time-consuming than just learning.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 08:56
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


You know, I wish I had known that one coule use Office 2003 with W7.
It
would have saved me quite a bit of money. (sad face)
I was told (a couple of years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with
W7.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jon
Pierson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hi,
It does, I am writing with it right now under Win7.

Jon



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dennis
Clark
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hello,
I was afraid that might be the case. Outlook 2003 won't work on
Windows
7.
What problem are you trying to solve by doing this?
Dennis


----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am using Windows 7.
I have found a version ofOutlook 2003 and havethe Student version of
Office 10 which has Word, Access 10 and Excel but no Outlook 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hello Which version of Windows are you using? Thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:03 PM
Subject: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am considering installing Outlook 2003 onto my computer.
Next I will install Acces 10, Word 10 and Excel 10.

Why should that not work?

Thanks.
Thanks.

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copying an entire cd in windows media player with windows 7, jaws 13 and 64 byt

John J. Fioravanti, Jr. <fioresq1@...>
 

Hi: can someone tell me how to copy an entire cd in windows media
player with jaws 13, windows 7 and 64 byt. In xp I used nero. Thanks very
much.
John


Re: A Modest Proposal

Kimsan <kimsansong@...>
 

I like that example of the man talking on the phone. It reminded me of
college when I saw lots of people walking by and I would hear them talking.
I look over and I see nobody next to them and was like whaat? Come to find
out, they had a cell phone to their ear lol.
I use to walk and text believe it or not, because I have enough vision to
see where I am going but at the time I had a phone with mobile speaks and
was still able to look ahead, walk and text with the phone by my side. Now,
years later, I lost 50 percent of my hearing in my right ear and my
directional hearing sucks so I can't do that no more lol.


Kimsan Song
Online Access Technology Trainer
Phone:
1-877-774-7670
www.BlindAccessTraining.com

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 3:21 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Modest Proposal

I wouldn't even think of getting on a city bus without having my ears free
to hear the driver or the bus itself call the stops.
When drivers do it they sometimes whisper. Wouldn't talking or texting
while walking hamper active echo location, an essential for effective
travel?I remember hearing one time a man talking. I was going somewhere
with my son then. I asked him whether the man was talking on a phone. He
told me: "No mother, he is talking to himself. I wouldn't want to appear
cracked to others who might see me traveling. At least, when one sees a
blind person reading Braille, he is well aware of what the blind person is
doing. Though age separates many of those who don't follow my logic I
suppose. My father first began driving in 1911 prior to the advent of
radios. Even when they became common place as standard equipment in
automobiles he had them removed. He saw no purpose for them. That was what
he was used to I suppose. Though I think growing dependence on electronic
technology is not good for us when many of the same things can be
accomplished without using so much battery power on ancillary things. What
happens if one needs for emergency purposes to make a phone call, but can't
because he has used his battery listening to music or something, or
E-mailing.
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From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 8:32 PM
Subject: RE: A Modest Proposal


Gerald, if I read correctly and you live in NYC, I do applaud you for
traveling in such a fast paced noisy environment. As a tourist there
this past summer, I can safely say I would need some training to
navigate somewhere like Grand Central Station. That place is probably
more cavernous than most cathedrals!

Anyway, can I ask what you do for a living?
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Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

Cy Selfridge
 

Dave,
I think "not tested" probably comes closer. (LOLLOLLOL)
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

Ted,

Did you know that "NT" actually stood for "Nice Try"? Or was that "Not
Tested"? Can't recall, exactly.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:54
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?


You'd better know it. Our shop is so conservative that an OS is almost
off the market before we adopt it. We missed Vista altogether, and
thank goodness for that. In the past 16 years, we've used 3.11, 95, NT,
XP (NT with a facelift)and now 7.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Keen
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

Hi,

Eeven most large companies don't upgrade to every OS as it comes out,
there are still companies out there using xp and vista. To do so would
pose a programming and logistics nightmare.



Shawn



----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:42 PM
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?


I think the product cycle for 7 was too short, especially given
Microsoft's recent track record of one good OS, followed by one dog.
The jury is out on 8, but I've read some strong opinions pro and conn.
Gone are the days when you could sit out a DOS 4, while awaiting
something good. OEM agreements guarantee healthy sales, no matter how
bad it is.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy
Selfridge
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

This is true but continuing to keep up with the Jones sure gets
expensive.
If you have to upgrade in order to communicate with your work
environment that is one thing but if you keep upgrading just to be on
the cutting edge then that is, IMO, foolish and you have more money
than
I do. (LOLLOLLOL) We are now looking at W8 and I just got used to W7.
The comment by FS that the solution was to go to JAWS 14 and W8 was,
IMO, idiot advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:06 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

"I was told (a couple of years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with
W7."

So was I. but I've learned to work with the ribbons and get on with
evolution. The ribbons aren't going away, and there's just a point
when
fighting upstream becomes more time-consuming than just learning.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 08:56
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


You know, I wish I had known that one coule use Office 2003 with W7.
It
would have saved me quite a bit of money. (sad face)
I was told (a couple of years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with
W7.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jon
Pierson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hi,
It does, I am writing with it right now under Win7.

Jon



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dennis
Clark
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hello,
I was afraid that might be the case. Outlook 2003 won't work on
Windows
7.
What problem are you trying to solve by doing this?
Dennis


----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am using Windows 7.
I have found a version ofOutlook 2003 and havethe Student version of
Office 10 which has Word, Access 10 and Excel but no Outlook 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hello Which version of Windows are you using? Thanks

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:03 PM
Subject: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am considering installing Outlook 2003 onto my computer.
Next I will install Acces 10, Word 10 and Excel 10.

Why should that not work?

Thanks.
Thanks.

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Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

Cy Selfridge
 

Until someone threatens me with my life or dyre harm to my computers I am
not going to leap into the future for a good year or so.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

I think the product cycle for 7 was too short, especially given Microsoft's
recent track record of one good OS, followed by one dog.
The jury is out on 8, but I've read some strong opinions pro and conn.
Gone are the days when you could sit out a DOS 4, while awaiting something
good. OEM agreements guarantee healthy sales, no matter how bad it is.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

This is true but continuing to keep up with the Jones sure gets expensive.
If you have to upgrade in order to communicate with your work environment
that is one thing but if you keep upgrading just to be on the cutting edge
then that is, IMO, foolish and you have more money than I do. (LOLLOLLOL) We
are now looking at W8 and I just got used to W7.
The comment by FS that the solution was to go to JAWS 14 and W8 was, IMO,
idiot advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:06 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

"I was told (a couple of years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with W7."

So was I. but I've learned to work with the ribbons and get on with
evolution. The ribbons aren't going away, and there's just a point when
fighting upstream becomes more time-consuming than just learning.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 08:56
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


You know, I wish I had known that one coule use Office 2003 with W7. It
would have saved me quite a bit of money. (sad face) I was told (a couple of
years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with W7.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jon Pierson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hi,
It does, I am writing with it right now under Win7.

Jon



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Clark
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hello,
I was afraid that might be the case. Outlook 2003 won't work on Windows 7.
What problem are you trying to solve by doing this?
Dennis


----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am using Windows 7.
I have found a version ofOutlook 2003 and havethe Student version of
Office 10 which has Word, Access 10 and Excel but no Outlook 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hello Which version of Windows are you using? Thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:03 PM
Subject: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am considering installing Outlook 2003 onto my computer.
Next I will install Acces 10, Word 10 and Excel 10.

Why should that not work?

Thanks.
Thanks.

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Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

Dave...
 

Ted,

Did you know that "NT" actually stood for "Nice Try"? Or was that "Not
Tested"? Can't recall, exactly.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:54
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?


You'd better know it. Our shop is so conservative that an OS is almost
off the market before we adopt it. We missed Vista altogether, and
thank goodness for that. In the past 16 years, we've used 3.11, 95, NT,
XP (NT with a facelift)and now 7.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Keen
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

Hi,

Eeven most large companies don't upgrade to every OS as it comes out,
there are still companies out there using xp and vista. To do so would
pose a programming and logistics nightmare.



Shawn



----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:42 PM
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?


I think the product cycle for 7 was too short, especially given
Microsoft's recent track record of one good OS, followed by one dog.
The jury is out on 8, but I've read some strong opinions pro and conn.
Gone are the days when you could sit out a DOS 4, while awaiting
something good. OEM agreements guarantee healthy sales, no matter how
bad it is.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy
Selfridge
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

This is true but continuing to keep up with the Jones sure gets
expensive.
If you have to upgrade in order to communicate with your work
environment that is one thing but if you keep upgrading just to be on
the cutting edge then that is, IMO, foolish and you have more money
than
I do. (LOLLOLLOL) We are now looking at W8 and I just got used to W7.
The comment by FS that the solution was to go to JAWS 14 and W8 was,
IMO, idiot advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:06 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

"I was told (a couple of years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with
W7."

So was I. but I've learned to work with the ribbons and get on with
evolution. The ribbons aren't going away, and there's just a point
when
fighting upstream becomes more time-consuming than just learning.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 08:56
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


You know, I wish I had known that one coule use Office 2003 with W7.
It
would have saved me quite a bit of money. (sad face)
I was told (a couple of years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with
W7.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jon
Pierson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hi,
It does, I am writing with it right now under Win7.

Jon



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dennis
Clark
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hello,
I was afraid that might be the case. Outlook 2003 won't work on
Windows
7.
What problem are you trying to solve by doing this?
Dennis


----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am using Windows 7.
I have found a version ofOutlook 2003 and havethe Student version of
Office 10 which has Word, Access 10 and Excel but no Outlook 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hello Which version of Windows are you using? Thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:03 PM
Subject: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am considering installing Outlook 2003 onto my computer.
Next I will install Acces 10, Word 10 and Excel 10.

Why should that not work?

Thanks.
Thanks.

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Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

You'd better know it. Our shop is so conservative that an OS is almost
off the market before we adopt it. We missed Vista altogether, and
thank goodness for that. In the past 16 years, we've used 3.11, 95, NT,
XP (NT with a facelift)and now 7.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Keen
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:04 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

Hi,

Eeven most large companies don't upgrade to every OS as it comes out,
there are still companies out there using xp and vista. To do so would
pose a programming and logistics nightmare.



Shawn



----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:42 PM
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?


I think the product cycle for 7 was too short, especially given
Microsoft's recent track record of one good OS, followed by one dog.
The jury is out on 8, but I've read some strong opinions pro and conn.
Gone are the days when you could sit out a DOS 4, while awaiting
something good. OEM agreements guarantee healthy sales, no matter how
bad it is.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy
Selfridge
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

This is true but continuing to keep up with the Jones sure gets
expensive.
If you have to upgrade in order to communicate with your work
environment that is one thing but if you keep upgrading just to be on
the cutting edge then that is, IMO, foolish and you have more money
than
I do. (LOLLOLLOL) We are now looking at W8 and I just got used to W7.
The comment by FS that the solution was to go to JAWS 14 and W8 was,
IMO, idiot advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:06 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

"I was told (a couple of years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with
W7."

So was I. but I've learned to work with the ribbons and get on with
evolution. The ribbons aren't going away, and there's just a point
when
fighting upstream becomes more time-consuming than just learning.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 08:56
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


You know, I wish I had known that one coule use Office 2003 with W7.
It
would have saved me quite a bit of money. (sad face)
I was told (a couple of years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with
W7.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jon
Pierson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hi,
It does, I am writing with it right now under Win7.

Jon



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dennis
Clark
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hello,
I was afraid that might be the case. Outlook 2003 won't work on
Windows
7.
What problem are you trying to solve by doing this?
Dennis


----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am using Windows 7.
I have found a version ofOutlook 2003 and havethe Student version of
Office 10 which has Word, Access 10 and Excel but no Outlook 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hello Which version of Windows are you using? Thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:03 PM
Subject: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am considering installing Outlook 2003 onto my computer.
Next I will install Acces 10, Word 10 and Excel 10.

Why should that not work?

Thanks.
Thanks.

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I'm questioning if anyone has used the application mentioned above. I wish
to apply for a job with a company who has this application listed. Which
means that would have to make sure that Jaws will work with it.

Your Friend Dave

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Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

Shawn Keen <shawn.keen@...>
 

Hi,

Eeven most large companies don't upgrade to every OS as it comes out, there are still companies out there using xp and vista. To do so would pose a programming and logistics nightmare.



Shawn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:42 PM
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?


I think the product cycle for 7 was too short, especially given
Microsoft's recent track record of one good OS, followed by one dog.
The jury is out on 8, but I've read some strong opinions pro and conn.
Gone are the days when you could sit out a DOS 4, while awaiting
something good. OEM agreements guarantee healthy sales, no matter how
bad it is.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy
Selfridge
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

This is true but continuing to keep up with the Jones sure gets
expensive.
If you have to upgrade in order to communicate with your work
environment that is one thing but if you keep upgrading just to be on
the cutting edge then that is, IMO, foolish and you have more money than
I do. (LOLLOLLOL) We are now looking at W8 and I just got used to W7.
The comment by FS that the solution was to go to JAWS 14 and W8 was,
IMO, idiot advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:06 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

"I was told (a couple of years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with
W7."

So was I. but I've learned to work with the ribbons and get on with
evolution. The ribbons aren't going away, and there's just a point when
fighting upstream becomes more time-consuming than just learning.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 08:56
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


You know, I wish I had known that one coule use Office 2003 with W7. It
would have saved me quite a bit of money. (sad face)
I was told (a couple of years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with
W7.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jon
Pierson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hi,
It does, I am writing with it right now under Win7.

Jon



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dennis
Clark
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hello,
I was afraid that might be the case. Outlook 2003 won't work on Windows
7.
What problem are you trying to solve by doing this?
Dennis


----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am using Windows 7.
I have found a version ofOutlook 2003 and havethe Student version of
Office 10 which has Word, Access 10 and Excel but no Outlook 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hello Which version of Windows are you using? Thanks

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:03 PM
Subject: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am considering installing Outlook 2003 onto my computer.
Next I will install Acces 10, Word 10 and Excel 10.

Why should that not work?

Thanks.
Thanks.

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Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

I think the product cycle for 7 was too short, especially given
Microsoft's recent track record of one good OS, followed by one dog.
The jury is out on 8, but I've read some strong opinions pro and conn.
Gone are the days when you could sit out a DOS 4, while awaiting
something good. OEM agreements guarantee healthy sales, no matter how
bad it is.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy
Selfridge
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

This is true but continuing to keep up with the Jones sure gets
expensive.
If you have to upgrade in order to communicate with your work
environment that is one thing but if you keep upgrading just to be on
the cutting edge then that is, IMO, foolish and you have more money than
I do. (LOLLOLLOL) We are now looking at W8 and I just got used to W7.
The comment by FS that the solution was to go to JAWS 14 and W8 was,
IMO, idiot advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar
Carlson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:06 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

"I was told (a couple of years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with
W7."

So was I. but I've learned to work with the ribbons and get on with
evolution. The ribbons aren't going away, and there's just a point when
fighting upstream becomes more time-consuming than just learning.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 08:56
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


You know, I wish I had known that one coule use Office 2003 with W7. It
would have saved me quite a bit of money. (sad face)
I was told (a couple of years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with
W7.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jon
Pierson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hi,
It does, I am writing with it right now under Win7.

Jon



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dennis
Clark
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hello,
I was afraid that might be the case. Outlook 2003 won't work on Windows
7.
What problem are you trying to solve by doing this?
Dennis


----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am using Windows 7.
I have found a version ofOutlook 2003 and havethe Student version of
Office 10 which has Word, Access 10 and Excel but no Outlook 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hello Which version of Windows are you using? Thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:03 PM
Subject: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am considering installing Outlook 2003 onto my computer.
Next I will install Acces 10, Word 10 and Excel 10.

Why should that not work?

Thanks.
Thanks.

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Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mix Office versions?

Cy Selfridge
 

This is true but continuing to keep up with the Jones sure gets expensive.
If you have to upgrade in order to communicate with your work environment
that is one thing but if you keep upgrading just to be on the cutting edge
then that is, IMO, foolish and you have more money than I do. (LOLLOLLOL)
We are now looking at W8 and I just got used to W7.
The comment by FS that the solution was to go to JAWS 14 and W8 was, IMO,
idiot advice.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:06 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

"I was told (a couple of years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with W7."

So was I. but I've learned to work with the ribbons and get on with
evolution. The ribbons aren't going away, and there's just a point when
fighting upstream becomes more time-consuming than just learning.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 08:56
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


You know, I wish I had known that one coule use Office 2003 with W7. It
would have saved me quite a bit of money. (sad face)
I was told (a couple of years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with W7.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jon Pierson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hi,
It does, I am writing with it right now under Win7.

Jon



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Clark
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hello,
I was afraid that might be the case. Outlook 2003 won't work on Windows 7.
What problem are you trying to solve by doing this?
Dennis


----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am using Windows 7.
I have found a version ofOutlook 2003 and havethe Student version of
Office 10 which has Word, Access 10 and Excel but no Outlook 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hello Which version of Windows are you using? Thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:03 PM
Subject: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am considering installing Outlook 2003 onto my computer.
Next I will install Acces 10, Word 10 and Excel 10.

Why should that not work?

Thanks.
Thanks.

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Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Dave...
 

"I was told (a couple of years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with W7."

So was I. but I've learned to work with the ribbons and get on with
evolution. The ribbons aren't going away, and there's just a point when
fighting upstream becomes more time-consuming than just learning.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@comcast.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 08:56
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


You know, I wish I had known that one coule use Office 2003 with W7. It
would have saved me quite a bit of money. (sad face)
I was told (a couple of years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with W7.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jon Pierson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hi,
It does, I am writing with it right now under Win7.

Jon



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Clark
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hello,
I was afraid that might be the case. Outlook 2003 won't work on Windows 7.
What problem are you trying to solve by doing this?
Dennis


----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am using Windows 7.
I have found a version ofOutlook 2003 and havethe Student version of
Office 10 which has Word, Access 10 and Excel but no Outlook 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hello Which version of Windows are you using? Thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:03 PM
Subject: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am considering installing Outlook 2003 onto my computer.
Next I will install Acces 10, Word 10 and Excel 10.

Why should that not work?

Thanks.
Thanks.

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Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Cy Selfridge
 

You know, I wish I had known that one coule use Office 2003 with W7. It
would have saved me quite a bit of money. (sad face)
I was told (a couple of years ago) that I had to use Office 2007 with W7.
Cy

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jon Pierson
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:49 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hi,
It does, I am writing with it right now under Win7.

Jon



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Clark
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hello,
I was afraid that might be the case. Outlook 2003 won't work on Windows 7.
What problem are you trying to solve by doing this?
Dennis


----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am using Windows 7.
I have found a version ofOutlook 2003 and havethe Student version of
Office 10 which has Word, Access 10 and Excel but no Outlook 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hello Which version of Windows are you using? Thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:03 PM
Subject: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am considering installing Outlook 2003 onto my computer.
Next I will install Acces 10, Word 10 and Excel 10.

Why should that not work?

Thanks.
Thanks.

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Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Dennis Clark <dennisgclark@...>
 

Hello John,
I'm pleased to hear that you have it working. In May 2011 when my office had to switch to Windows 7, I spent a lot of money paying for our computer consultant to try to get it working on our computers and he could not. I then purchased Office 2010 for our systems which I do not like because of the ribbons. At that time he found numerous articles discussing that Outlook 2003 was not reliable running under Windows 7, but who knows why. Clearly you have it working and we could not get it working after a lot of ours spent. We use AT&T internet services, which for us means we are using SMTP and Pop3, and that may be a possible factor. We are also using Windows 7 64 bit, so that may also be an issue. Regardless, it is clear that you and another person on this list have it working, but many others have not had your success. If the original poster has the time to experiment, then it can't hurt to try.
Best,
Dennis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Pierson" <joncpierson@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:49 AM
Subject: RE: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
It does, I am writing with it right now under Win7.

Jon



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Clark
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hello,
I was afraid that might be the case. Outlook 2003 won't work on Windows 7.
What problem are you trying to solve by doing this?
Dennis


----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am using Windows 7.
I have found a version ofOutlook 2003 and
havethe Student version of Office 10 which has
Word, Access 10 and Excel but no Outlook 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hello Which version of Windows are you using? Thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:03 PM
Subject: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am considering installing Outlook 2003 onto my computer.
Next I will install Acces 10, Word 10 and Excel 10.

Why should that not work?

Thanks.
Thanks.

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Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Jon Pierson <joncpierson@...>
 

Hi,
It does, I am writing with it right now under Win7.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?

Hello,
I was afraid that might be the case. Outlook 2003 won't work on Windows 7.
What problem are you trying to solve by doing this?
Dennis


----- Original Message -----
From: "ptusing" <ptusing@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am using Windows 7.
I have found a version ofOutlook 2003 and
havethe Student version of Office 10 which has
Word, Access 10 and Excel but no Outlook 10.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Clark" <dennisgclark@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hello Which version of Windows are you using? Thanks

----- Original Message -----
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:03 PM
Subject: solving Outlook problem; can one mixOffice versions?


Hi,
I am considering installing Outlook 2003 onto my computer.
Next I will install Acces 10, Word 10 and Excel 10.

Why should that not work?

Thanks.
Thanks.

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Re: A Modest Proposal

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

Hey, that currency thing would be enough to tempt me. The only other
gadget I know that can do that costs around $100 and can do nothing
else. I guess most hand scanners can do it, but how handy are they?
For me, I guess it would come down to how much more I can afford to
spend over and above the two-line plan I have right now, and that's
between the carrier and me.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:37 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Modest Proposal

Amen, a voice of reason! Please folks, if you've never used an
iPhone/iPad don't be so quick to judge. They are great devices and, not
just for fooling around on, but, as Cristobal pointed out, for aiding
with many daily tasks.

Russell
Sent from my iMac running Mountain Lion!

On 2012-09-24, at 3:30 PM, Cristobal <crismunoz54@gmail.com> wrote:

I have four separate email accounts on my iPad (one personal and 3
business), Google Voice and Skype for textign and making calls, note
taking apps, video and audio recording capabilities apps for reading
of books be it in mp3, daisy, ebooks, etc. Other accessibility related
apps include Learning Ally, NFB Newsline color identification apps
(though not the best with an iPad, can work in a pinch) and so on. Not
to mention everything else one can do with the tablet that is
impossible with just a note taker by itself for example. When I was
doing my homework on whether to get the Apex, I was talking to a rep
about it and even though it was their job to talk up the product,
their arguements just didn't convince me. Yes, those types of
blindness targetted devices may have in some aspects more designs and
features taylored to a visually impaired user, but the idea of
dropping nearly $6,000.00 on something just because it has a braille
display built into it did not convince me in the least. Everything the
Apex had, the iPad already came with or I could find an app to get
that particular feature and more often than not, the app was simply
better.

Having the tablet frees me from being tied to my computer in many
instances.
The iPhone too is a great example of a swiss army knife of accessible
goodness. All the apps mentioned above and with a better camera makes
other apps like money identification, color identification, scanning
text to speech, taking photos of canned or boxed items and tagging
them with a voice lable for later reference, barcode reader, GPS and
so on.

Again, even if one were to purchase just the phone unlocked at $800.00
or so for a larger model, that's a lot less than what it would cost to
buy all the various accessible gizmos to replicate similar actions.
I'm completely blind so all the low vision stuff is irrelevent to me,
but for partially sighted folks, the iPad (especially the newest
model) can be used with its camera as a cctv along with all the other
magnification features it's got built into it. So, again, for $800.00
for a larger storage iPad, iPod or iPhone for that matter, how is that
not a great deal and why wouldn't state agencies consider such
devices? Numbers don't lie. These devices are in many instances a
solid replacement for a bundle of all those other things at much less
of an overall cost.

I'm glad my acquaintance was able to get what he wanted and not get
talked into a crazy priced note taker which is basically a stripped
down netbook with braille display just because of whatever cosy
relationship vendors may have with agencies.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 1:17 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Modest Proposal


So exactly what do you use your IPad for? If you use it to store
notes and contacts, this can be accomplished far more cheaply by a
simple Olympus digital recorder. If you already have a computer at
work or home, then it seems to me that an IPad is superfluous.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cristobal" <crismunoz54@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 3:22 PM
Subject: RE: A Modest Proposal


Not so fast... I have an acquaintance who through his state agency
obtained an iPad and Bluetooth keyboard instead of a traditional note
taker. I think he also received a Braille display (I don't know which
model) and if memory serves, everything came out cheaper than the
note taker would have.
Earlier this year, I too was considering buying an Apex from
Humanware and after testing it out, I was more sold on the
flexibility of the iPad. With
a
keyboard instead of the Apex. I also bought a 40 cell display.
Everything in my circumstance came out to a third of the cost than
the Apex would have.
Even if I were to throw in my iPhone in an unlocked scenario (I'm
actually on contract), the cost for the tablet, keyboard, display and
phone is still less than the note taker. When my acquaintance asked
me for my opinion when he was working with his case manager, I
commented to him my experience and he pitched it to his rep and low
and behold... He received what he requested.

It's true that tablets aren't yet replacements for computers, but in
my opinion anyway, note takers for the blind can't hold a candle to
accessible tablets or accessible smart phones anymore. Especially
when you factor in the cost of all devices. That's not even taking
into consideration the various accessibility related apps that can
often replace the function of a blindness oriented gadget.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 11:30 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Modest Proposal


To be perfectly honest, purchasing I-devices by blind rehab agencies
for clients is an outrageous waste of taxpayer money, as these
agencies are largely funded by state commissions for the blind. No
I-device can ever completely replace a computer. They are designed
to be mobile devices, not devices that can be used in a typical work
environment. They don't even have tactile keyboards just
touchscreens, so it is physically impossible to type on them as fast
as you can on a standard , full size keyboard. Can you compose and
print documents or read your mail with an IPad? Of course not.
But, you say, you can send and receive text messages better with an
IPad than with a computer. But why should a blind agency pay for
such a device when you can accomplish the same thing with a
telephone? And please don't tell me about all those "cool" apps
available for the IPad and IPhone. To me, the I-devices are little
more than overpriced status symbols whose functionality can be
duplicated by cheaper devices.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Pierson" <joncpierson@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: A Modest Proposal


Hi,
Actually it may never happen in some places, but MN is doing some
serious training and providing iDevices in many situations.
I know of a person in CA who's already started teaching people on
both platforms as well. The iPad is also being purchased by a lot of
schools for LD students who (in the old days) might have used a
PC-based system such as
K3000 or Magic.
So the times, they are a'changin'.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 9:26 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Modest Proposal


Never happen. I can tell you from personal experience with a major
blind rehab agency that they will never consider Apple computers as
an alternative to Windows computers for their clients. Why?
Because it would mean that their technology trainers would have to
be familiar with two totally different operating systems, program
sets and keyboard commands. Plus, the rehab center would have to
purchase and maintain two totally incompatible groups of hardware.
That costs a lot of money, which most rehab agencies simply don't
have. Besides, the goal of blind rehab is to train clients for jobs
in the business world which relies heavily on Windows computers, not
Macs. I discussed this issue with my technology trainer at the
rehab center, and his attitude was that if I wanted to learn how to
use a Mac , I would have to do it on my own. This particular agency
has had a long-standing relationship with Dell and purchases all
their hardware from them. So naturally, their clients only receive
training on Windows machines. To their credit, they did offer me a
choice of screen readers:
JAWS or System Access. Atthe the time I received my training, I was
totally unfamiliar with System Access, so I chose JAWS. I'm still
glad I did.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 10:40 AM
Subject: RE: A Modest Proposal


agreed. since many here, and probably many more in the population
of users
who are not on this mailing list did not pay for the product in the
first place, we need to insist to those who are doing the
purchasing that we want something else. If some agency is buying
computer equipment for blind
folks and they find out that most people would be served by a Mac,
for example, even a Mac Mini, which would save them over a grand
per computer,
they might consider it.



At 04:01 AM 9/24/2012, you wrote:
Hi,
I think that stating that the clients would go to the revenue
source (fill in agency names here) and recommend that they support
another competing product.
Money usually talks.

Jon



-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:30 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: A Modest Proposal

No. We could drop the idea of sacrificing an SMA if that is too
problematic. The idea of stating that the petitioners would be
willing to sacrifice an SMA doesn't really legally commit anyone
to do anything.
It
just underscores how serious the problem has become to the people
Freedom Scientific Depends on most, ultimately, its base of
customers.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Guido Corona
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 9:19 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: A Modest Proposal

Ed, are the petitioners volunteering me, definitely a non
petitioner, to sacrifice an SMA?

Are you trying to spend my own money? I do not recall asking for
such assistance.

Guido


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 9:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: A Modest Proposal

The petition, as I'm envisioning it, would just state that the
petitioners would be willing to sacrifice an SMA to get a stable,
bug-fixed version.
No
one is actually warranting that they have any particular number of
SMAs left or otherwise available.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Karen Hughes
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 8:52 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: A Modest Proposal

i do not have any upgrades left in a s m a, so what would you
suggest for persons like me. karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@KutakRock.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: A Modest Proposal


OK.
The idea of sacrificing one SMA was really to underscore the
seriousness of the petitioners. I admit it may be beyond what is
essential.
It is one thing simply to sign a petition. Pretty much anyone
can do
that, but if users are so serious about the situation that they
would
willingly pay one SMA just to get what they should have been
delivered
anyway, that sends a powerful message. If you were going to buy
a screen reader for the first time or even if you were
recommending to
an agency the screen reader to endorse, wouldn't you hesitate
to go
with a product with users in revolt? Well, that's the
idea. Right
now, JAWS is the only screen reader that will do what I need
done, and I'm
grateful for that.
It is just ... Well I've said it already.

Making the SMA sacrifice a part of the petition was just an
idea. I
regard it as optional. Remember, I'm inviting comment, and I
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