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AIM with JFW 13?

Terra Syslo <tlsyslo@...>
 

Is AOL Instant Messenger accessible with the latest version of JFW 13? I
just installed it, and whenever I click on preferences or anything JFW isn't
reading anything. I know I used the program several months ago with JFW 12,
but not sure which version of AIM it was.

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naboukhad nassr
 

Hello. Does Jaws work well with netbooks? and is there any suggestions about a netbook that works well for blind users?
Thanks

Nabookhad Nassar


Re: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta

Adrian Spratt
 

Hi, Dave.

When I went to Firefox 15.01 yesterday, I was prompted to update an add-on.
That was simple enough, even though I've checked the automatic update
add-ons box. However, I then stumbled on a button to check for all add-on
updates. I determined that although most had already been updated, some must
be updated manually.

Three add-on/applications were not up to date, even though IE8 sees them as
updated. Two were Adobe Flash-related and the other was Java. Firefox gave
me a link to each update page, and I proceeded accordingly. Firefox's
performance improved immediately.

I emphasize how strange was the absence of updates of these three add-ons.
All my other add-ons were up to date, thanks to the automated updating
option. The three applications in question were up to date as far as IE was
concerned and the update programs I use for them. Moreover, Adobe Flash
Player 11 automatically updates itself, unlike previous AFP versions. (I'm
hoping that Firefox had only AFP 10 and that it, too, will accept automatic
updates from Adobe.)

You might want to go to Firefox's add-ons page and press the button to
update add-ons in case you have a similar situation.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 5:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta

James,

I've used both Firefox and IE with the same application during a given day.
Firefox would lock up, or cause JAWS to crash after 20 minutes or so of
interaction. IE would usually run fine for three times as long.

I use Firefox because it does a better job working with all the forms and
elements than does IE. Reliability vs. Functionality.

I think it's JAWS, however that is just not happy with Firefox.

Firefox 15.0.1
IE 8.0.760
JFW 13.0.924

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "James Homuth" <james@the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 09:08
Subject: RE: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta


I don't believe Chrome is built on the Mozilla platform, but I also don't
pay much attention to Chrome as the few times I've fought with it, I ended
up just removing it and using something else. I've noticed, though, that
I've been needing to refresh the screen more frequently when pages update
while using either Firefox or IE on a 32-bit XP system running JAWS 13, so
I'm not entirely sure what the issue is.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of William Sallander
Sent: September 13, 2012 10:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta

Has anyone out there tried using Google Chrome with the Jaws 14 beta?
I've noticed that when going from one web page to another, I seem to need to
refresh the Screen to read the current page.
I also believe this might be happening with Firefox since it is my
understanding that both Chrome and Firefox are built on the Mozilla
platform.
I'm using the 64 bit edition of the beta on a vista machine.
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Re: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta

William Sallander <wsallander@...>
 

I did manage to download the latest FireFox and it seems to work a little bit better than Chrome when using the beta 14 version of Jaws.
I did notice however that sometimes it will loose focus.
Probably the best thing to do is at least put it in a bug report and see what happens from there.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta


I can say for sure that chroam uses the firefox scripts etc for jaws
(including the jcf), it's in my config-names.ini and I didn't put it
there. This does tend to make me think that Google at least started
by using some version of the mozilla gecko engine rather than starting
from scratch (gecko is the actual layout/rending system that Firefox
is built around).

On 9/14/12, James Homuth <james@the-jdh.com> wrote:
I don't believe Chrome is built on the Mozilla platform, but I also don't
pay much attention to Chrome as the few times I've fought with it, I ended
up just removing it and using something else. I've noticed, though, that
I've been needing to refresh the screen more frequently when pages update
while using either Firefox or IE on a 32-bit XP system running JAWS 13, so
I'm not entirely sure what the issue is.

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of William Sallander
Sent: September 13, 2012 10:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta

Has anyone out there tried using Google Chrome with the Jaws 14 beta?
I've noticed that when going from one web page to another, I seem to need
to
refresh the Screen to read the current page.
I also believe this might be happening with Firefox since it is my
understanding that both Chrome and Firefox are built on the Mozilla
platform.
I'm using the 64 bit edition of the beta on a vista machine.
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Re: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta

James Homuth
 

You're probably right, though in my case if it's a JAWS issue, it's a
recently grown one. IE 7 over here, latest JAWS 13. Firefox... Eh...
Probably up there in versions, but I'm not keen on fighting with it just to
get it to tell me.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: September 14, 2012 5:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta

James,

I've used both Firefox and IE with the same application during a given day.
Firefox would lock up, or cause JAWS to crash after 20 minutes or so of
interaction. IE would usually run fine for three times as long.

I use Firefox because it does a better job working with all the forms and
elements than does IE. Reliability vs. Functionality.

I think it's JAWS, however that is just not happy with Firefox.

Firefox 15.0.1
IE 8.0.760
JFW 13.0.924

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "James Homuth" <james@the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 09:08
Subject: RE: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta


I don't believe Chrome is built on the Mozilla platform, but I also don't
pay much attention to Chrome as the few times I've fought with it, I ended
up just removing it and using something else. I've noticed, though, that
I've been needing to refresh the screen more frequently when pages update
while using either Firefox or IE on a 32-bit XP system running JAWS 13, so
I'm not entirely sure what the issue is.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of William Sallander
Sent: September 13, 2012 10:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta

Has anyone out there tried using Google Chrome with the Jaws 14 beta?
I've noticed that when going from one web page to another, I seem to need to
refresh the Screen to read the current page.
I also believe this might be happening with Firefox since it is my
understanding that both Chrome and Firefox are built on the Mozilla
platform.
I'm using the 64 bit edition of the beta on a vista machine.
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Re: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 usingWindows7 and Jaws 13

Jean Menzies <jemenzies@...>
 

Just a guess, but try reading in Normal view or Print view or at least
changing the docu7ment view. I know the Reading Document view used to always
be a problem, and so that could be the problem.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010
usingWindows7 and Jaws 13


Dani:

Well, many of the documents for my University Department Head position
are 20, 30, or even 50 pages long, if not longer, and I often have to skim
through things to get the whole picture.

I try to leave only one or two applications open at a time, so I don't think
it's a ram issue.

I'll see what others on the list come up with, and thanks for letting me
know my message got through.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dani L Pagador" <axs.brl@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 8:17 AM
Subject: RE: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010
usingWindows 7 and Jaws 13


Hi, Tom.
I didn't see your post yesterday, but it could be because it got lost in
my
black hole of an Inbox. Just wanted you to know you're still coming
through.
Out of curiosity, how long are your documents? My Word docs are fairly
short, but I could put one together to get the same page length to see if
I
can replicate your problem here. Also, might it be a question of low RAM
i.e., too many open applications using up your RAM?


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:45 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Fw: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using
Windows 7 and Jaws 13

Hi, all.

Are my posts making it to the list?

Yesterday, I posted the quiry below, and didn't get any response
whatsoever
which seems very strange to me.

I did get a response with some suggestions from Freedom Scientific, which
I
will try today, but I would appreciate any of your thoughts as well.

Just wanting to be sure I am still getting through.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using
Windows
7 and Jaws 13


Hello.

Recently, I have been encountering a frustrating problem at work when
reading through documents in Microsoft Word 2010 with Windows 7 and
Jaws 13.

Specifically, I can navigate through the first page or so of the
document fine. However, after that, Jaws becomes extremely sluggish,
and fails to speak consistently. Often, the computer actually seems
to freeze up for a few seconds, until Jaws recovers, only to have the
problem happen again after another brief period of reading.

I have tried to read the documents using the draft option under the
view tab, but to no avail.

Do you have any solutions to this problem, or suggestions of things
for me to try to remedy the situation?

Thanks!


Tom Behler from Michigan


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Re: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta

Cristóbal
 

No kidding. I loved FireFox up until version 5 or so and then I started
getting all those crashing issues and major memory problems. From being an
almost exclusive Firefox user till that point to around 70% to 30 ratio now
IE/Firefox. Supposedly with the latest Firefox release Mozilla's taken care
of a lot of the memory problems, but I still notice a spike greater than
when I have IE open. I've heard too that Google Reader may be a cause of
this and I have recently removed Google Reader as one of my homepages in
Firefox for a bit to check it out. Who knows, but I sure would like for Jaws
to play nice like it used to with Firefox back in the day. Regardless if
it's an issue on Mozilla's side or the Jaws side.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 2:38 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta

James,

I've used both Firefox and IE with the same application during a given day.
Firefox would lock up, or cause JAWS to crash after 20 minutes or so of
interaction. IE would usually run fine for three times as long.

I use Firefox because it does a better job working with all the forms and
elements than does IE. Reliability vs. Functionality.

I think it's JAWS, however that is just not happy with Firefox.

Firefox 15.0.1
IE 8.0.760
JFW 13.0.924

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "James Homuth" <james@the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 09:08
Subject: RE: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta


I don't believe Chrome is built on the Mozilla platform, but I also don't
pay much attention to Chrome as the few times I've fought with it, I ended
up just removing it and using something else. I've noticed, though, that
I've been needing to refresh the screen more frequently when pages update
while using either Firefox or IE on a 32-bit XP system running JAWS 13, so
I'm not entirely sure what the issue is.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of William Sallander
Sent: September 13, 2012 10:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta

Has anyone out there tried using Google Chrome with the Jaws 14 beta?
I've noticed that when going from one web page to another, I seem to need to
refresh the Screen to read the current page.
I also believe this might be happening with Firefox since it is my
understanding that both Chrome and Firefox are built on the Mozilla
platform.
I'm using the 64 bit edition of the beta on a vista machine.
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Re: Microsoft Lync and Alcatel Softphone

Dave...
 

Ted,

The Softphone application has a hotkey. Windows+A to answer. Works like a
charm, so that's one to keep in mind if it should come up for your company
again.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 12:27
Subject: RE: Microsoft Lync and Alcatel Softphone


We use Nortel, and my problem was hardware related. Getting to the
pick-up button was so time consuming that every message would have
rolled over to voice mail. There was supposed to be a button on the
headset, but it never worked properly. It would end a call, but not
initiate one. What was needed was a hot key that could be accessed
quickly from any application. IT was never able to overcome this.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 12:18 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Microsoft Lync and Alcatel Softphone

Good luck!
Most soft phones are horrible when it comes to accessibility. Hope this
one is an exception.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Delaunay Christophe
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 8:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Microsoft Lync and Alcatel Softphone

Hi there,

These two pieces of software, which run together, will be deployed soon
on my computer, in order to replace the phone I'm currently using.

After the replacement, it will not be possible for me to handle phone
calls without the computer, a PC running windows XP pro SP3 and Jaws 12.

So, does anyone here know about these pieces of software? In particular,
to what extent are they accessible with jaws?

Many thanks in advance. Have a nice day. Christophe Delaunay

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Re: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta

Soronel Haetir
 

I can say for sure that chroam uses the firefox scripts etc for jaws
(including the jcf), it's in my config-names.ini and I didn't put it
there. This does tend to make me think that Google at least started
by using some version of the mozilla gecko engine rather than starting
from scratch (gecko is the actual layout/rending system that Firefox
is built around).

On 9/14/12, James Homuth <james@the-jdh.com> wrote:
I don't believe Chrome is built on the Mozilla platform, but I also don't
pay much attention to Chrome as the few times I've fought with it, I ended
up just removing it and using something else. I've noticed, though, that
I've been needing to refresh the screen more frequently when pages update
while using either Firefox or IE on a 32-bit XP system running JAWS 13, so
I'm not entirely sure what the issue is.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of William Sallander
Sent: September 13, 2012 10:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta

Has anyone out there tried using Google Chrome with the Jaws 14 beta?
I've noticed that when going from one web page to another, I seem to need
to
refresh the Screen to read the current page.
I also believe this might be happening with Firefox since it is my
understanding that both Chrome and Firefox are built on the Mozilla
platform.
I'm using the 64 bit edition of the beta on a vista machine.
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Re: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta

Dave...
 

James,

I've used both Firefox and IE with the same application during a given day.
Firefox would lock up, or cause JAWS to crash after 20 minutes or so of
interaction. IE would usually run fine for three times as long.

I use Firefox because it does a better job working with all the forms and
elements than does IE. Reliability vs. Functionality.

I think it's JAWS, however that is just not happy with Firefox.

Firefox 15.0.1
IE 8.0.760
JFW 13.0.924

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Homuth" <james@the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 09:08
Subject: RE: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta


I don't believe Chrome is built on the Mozilla platform, but I also don't
pay much attention to Chrome as the few times I've fought with it, I ended
up just removing it and using something else. I've noticed, though, that
I've been needing to refresh the screen more frequently when pages update
while using either Firefox or IE on a 32-bit XP system running JAWS 13, so
I'm not entirely sure what the issue is.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of William Sallander
Sent: September 13, 2012 10:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta

Has anyone out there tried using Google Chrome with the Jaws 14 beta?
I've noticed that when going from one web page to another, I seem to need to
refresh the Screen to read the current page.
I also believe this might be happening with Firefox since it is my
understanding that both Chrome and Firefox are built on the Mozilla
platform.
I'm using the 64 bit edition of the beta on a vista machine.
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Re: Fw: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010using Windows 7 and Jaws 13

Tom Behler
 

Good idea, Ann, although I do need to save the formatting, since much of my stuff has to be forwarded on up the administrative hierarchy now.

But, maybe it will have to be one of my steps at least for reading purposes.

Thanks much!

Dr. tom Behler

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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010using Windows 7 and Jaws 13


If you don't need the formatting, try saving the document as text and see if it reads better.
At 04:44 AM 9/14/2012, you wrote:
Hi, all.

Are my posts making it to the list?

Yesterday, I posted the quiry below, and didn't get any response whatsoever which seems very strange to me.

I did get a response with some suggestions from Freedom Scientific, which I will try today, but I would appreciate any of your thoughts as well.

Just wanting to be sure I am still getting through.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using Windows 7 and Jaws 13


Hello.

Recently, I have been encountering a frustrating problem at work when reading through documents in Microsoft Word 2010 with Windows 7 and Jaws 13.

Specifically, I can navigate through the first page or so of the document fine. However, after that, Jaws becomes extremely sluggish, and fails to speak consistently. Often, the computer actually seems to freeze up for a few seconds, until Jaws recovers, only to have the problem happen again after another brief period of reading.

I have tried to read the documents using the draft option under the view tab, but to no avail.

Do you have any solutions to this problem, or suggestions of things for me to try to remedy the situation?

Thanks!


Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010using Windows 7 and Jaws 13

Tom Behler
 

Daniel:

Well, I'll certainly try the cutting and pasting thing as a last resort.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Garcia" <dangarcia3@hotmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010using Windows 7 and Jaws 13


Yes, you are getting through. I did notice that yesterday a post of mine
took several hours to make it through. This happens sometimes.

As far as your problem with JAWS, Word 2010 docs, I sometimes encounter
similar problems when I am sent files that are protected. I usually end up
copy/pasting it to a new document which I then read with no problems.

Daniel Garcia
Northville, MI


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 5:45 AM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Fw: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using
Windows 7 and Jaws 13

Hi, all.

Are my posts making it to the list?

Yesterday, I posted the quiry below, and didn't get any response whatsoever
which seems very strange to me.

I did get a response with some suggestions from Freedom Scientific, which I
will try today, but I would appreciate any of your thoughts as well.

Just wanting to be sure I am still getting through.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using Windows
7 and Jaws 13


Hello.

Recently, I have been encountering a frustrating problem at work when
reading through documents in Microsoft Word 2010 with Windows 7 and
Jaws 13.

Specifically, I can navigate through the first page or so of the
document fine. However, after that, Jaws becomes extremely sluggish,
and fails to speak consistently. Often, the computer actually seems
to freeze up for a few seconds, until Jaws recovers, only to have the
problem happen again after another brief period of reading.

I have tried to read the documents using the draft option under the
view tab, but to no avail.

Do you have any solutions to this problem, or suggestions of things
for me to try to remedy the situation?

Thanks!


Tom Behler from Michigan


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Re: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 usingWindows 7 and Jaws 13

Tom Behler
 

Dani:

Well, many of the documents for my University Department Head position are 20, 30, or even 50 pages long, if not longer, and I often have to skim through things to get the whole picture.

I try to leave only one or two applications open at a time, so I don't think it's a ram issue.

I'll see what others on the list come up with, and thanks for letting me know my message got through.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

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From: "Dani L Pagador" <axs.brl@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 8:17 AM
Subject: RE: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 usingWindows 7 and Jaws 13


Hi, Tom.
I didn't see your post yesterday, but it could be because it got lost in my
black hole of an Inbox. Just wanted you to know you're still coming through.
Out of curiosity, how long are your documents? My Word docs are fairly
short, but I could put one together to get the same page length to see if I
can replicate your problem here. Also, might it be a question of low RAM
i.e., too many open applications using up your RAM?


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:45 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Fw: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using
Windows 7 and Jaws 13

Hi, all.

Are my posts making it to the list?

Yesterday, I posted the quiry below, and didn't get any response whatsoever
which seems very strange to me.

I did get a response with some suggestions from Freedom Scientific, which I
will try today, but I would appreciate any of your thoughts as well.

Just wanting to be sure I am still getting through.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using Windows
7 and Jaws 13


Hello.

Recently, I have been encountering a frustrating problem at work when
reading through documents in Microsoft Word 2010 with Windows 7 and
Jaws 13.

Specifically, I can navigate through the first page or so of the
document fine. However, after that, Jaws becomes extremely sluggish,
and fails to speak consistently. Often, the computer actually seems
to freeze up for a few seconds, until Jaws recovers, only to have the
problem happen again after another brief period of reading.

I have tried to read the documents using the draft option under the
view tab, but to no avail.

Do you have any solutions to this problem, or suggestions of things
for me to try to remedy the situation?

Thanks!


Tom Behler from Michigan


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Re: Graphics and Blanks

Soronel Haetir
 

For web apps you pretty much need to get whoever put this together to
add "alt" attributes to the img pages.

You *might* be able to do something with your browser and scripting,
basically for this one site recognize these particular source HTML
sequences and replace them with something you can use, but honestly
that is very iffy compared to getting the application developer to
fix it on their end.

On 9/14/12, Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:
I think I may just be stuck on this one, but I thought I would give the list
to try.
At work, we use a web-based document management program. When one searches
for documents, the results come up in a table. The table reads just fine;
however, a number of the documents are in PDF format and are nothing but
pictures. Sometimes, they have been run through an OCR package and have
been converted to Word format.
In the results table in the column just ahead of the document name, there
are little icons or graphics. They indicate to sighted users whether the
document in question is an e-mail, is an e-mail message with an attachment,
is a Word document, is a PDF document, and so on. These graphics are not
read by JAWS.
In the JAWS manual, there is a section on labeling graphics; however, that
section indicates that, if it is a true graphic, the word graphic" and a
number will be enunciated by JAWS.
In fact, when I move the mouse (JAWS cursor) over this graphic, JAWS just
says "blank".
Does anyone have any suggestions for how to label this thing?


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
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Re: Microsoft Lync and Alcatel Softphone

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

We use Nortel, and my problem was hardware related. Getting to the
pick-up button was so time consuming that every message would have
rolled over to voice mail. There was supposed to be a button on the
headset, but it never worked properly. It would end a call, but not
initiate one. What was needed was a hot key that could be accessed
quickly from any application. IT was never able to overcome this.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 12:18 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Microsoft Lync and Alcatel Softphone

Good luck!
Most soft phones are horrible when it comes to accessibility. Hope this
one is an exception.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Delaunay Christophe
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 8:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Microsoft Lync and Alcatel Softphone

Hi there,

These two pieces of software, which run together, will be deployed soon
on my computer, in order to replace the phone I'm currently using.

After the replacement, it will not be possible for me to handle phone
calls without the computer, a PC running windows XP pro SP3 and Jaws 12.

So, does anyone here know about these pieces of software? In particular,
to what extent are they accessible with jaws?

Many thanks in advance. Have a nice day. Christophe Delaunay

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Graphics and Blanks

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

I think I may just be stuck on this one, but I thought I would give the list to try.
At work, we use a web-based document management program. When one searches for documents, the results come up in a table. The table reads just fine; however, a number of the documents are in PDF format and are nothing but pictures. Sometimes, they have been run through an OCR package and have been converted to Word format.
In the results table in the column just ahead of the document name, there are little icons or graphics. They indicate to sighted users whether the document in question is an e-mail, is an e-mail message with an attachment, is a Word document, is a PDF document, and so on. These graphics are not read by JAWS.
In the JAWS manual, there is a section on labeling graphics; however, that section indicates that, if it is a true graphic, the word graphic" and a number will be enunciated by JAWS.
In fact, when I move the mouse (JAWS cursor) over this graphic, JAWS just says "blank".
Does anyone have any suggestions for how to label this thing?


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
Kansas City, MO 64106
ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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Re: Microsoft Lync and Alcatel Softphone

Dave...
 

Never used Alcatel with Softphone, but do use Cisco with a product called
Softphone. Soft phone comes from a separate provider called IP blue. It
works well with JAWS, as the developers have designed in accessibility. Your
IT department should be able to research the product and get help from IP
blue on setting it up and configuring it for JAWS.

Here's my Help/About menu. Bear in mind that I'm using Windows 7, so the
version for XP may have a different revision number...

Softphone
VPGO-PC 508 Version 2.15.35.49
Copyright (C) 2002-2011
IP blue Software Solutions, LLC.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Delaunay Christophe" <christophe.delaunay@technicolor.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 06:46
Subject: Microsoft Lync and Alcatel Softphone


Hi there,

These two pieces of software, which run together, will be deployed soon on
my computer, in order to replace the phone I'm currently using.

After the replacement, it will not be possible for me to handle phone calls
without the computer, a PC running windows XP pro SP3 and Jaws 12.

So, does anyone here know about these pieces of software? In particular, to
what extent are they accessible with jaws?

Many thanks in advance. Have a nice day. Christophe Delaunay

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Re: Microsoft Lync and Alcatel Softphone

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

Good luck!
Most soft phones are horrible when it comes to accessibility. Hope this one is an exception.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Delaunay Christophe
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 8:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Microsoft Lync and Alcatel Softphone

Hi there,

These two pieces of software, which run together, will be deployed soon on my computer, in order to replace the phone I'm currently using.

After the replacement, it will not be possible for me to handle phone calls without the computer, a PC running windows XP pro SP3 and Jaws 12.

So, does anyone here know about these pieces of software? In particular, to what extent are they accessible with jaws?

Many thanks in advance. Have a nice day. Christophe Delaunay

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Re: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta

James Homuth
 

I don't believe Chrome is built on the Mozilla platform, but I also don't
pay much attention to Chrome as the few times I've fought with it, I ended
up just removing it and using something else. I've noticed, though, that
I've been needing to refresh the screen more frequently when pages update
while using either Firefox or IE on a 32-bit XP system running JAWS 13, so
I'm not entirely sure what the issue is.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of William Sallander
Sent: September 13, 2012 10:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta

Has anyone out there tried using Google Chrome with the Jaws 14 beta?
I've noticed that when going from one web page to another, I seem to need to
refresh the Screen to read the current page.
I also believe this might be happening with Firefox since it is my
understanding that both Chrome and Firefox are built on the Mozilla
platform.
I'm using the 64 bit edition of the beta on a vista machine.
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Re: Fw: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using Windows 7 and Jaws 13

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

nope.


At 05:44 AM 9/14/2012, you wrote:
Hi, all.

Are my posts making it to the list?

Yesterday, I posted the quiry below, and didn't get any response whatsoever which seems very strange to me.

I did get a response with some suggestions from Freedom Scientific, which I will try today, but I would appreciate any of your thoughts as well.

Just wanting to be sure I am still getting through.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using Windows 7 and Jaws 13


Hello.

Recently, I have been encountering a frustrating problem at work when reading through documents in Microsoft Word 2010 with Windows 7 and Jaws 13.

Specifically, I can navigate through the first page or so of the document fine. However, after that, Jaws becomes extremely sluggish, and fails to speak consistently. Often, the computer actually seems to freeze up for a few seconds, until Jaws recovers, only to have the problem happen again after another brief period of reading.

I have tried to read the documents using the draft option under the view tab, but to no avail.

Do you have any solutions to this problem, or suggestions of things for me to try to remedy the situation?

Thanks!


Tom Behler from Michigan

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