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Re: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 usingWindows 7 and Jaws 13

Tom Behler
 

Dani:

Well, many of the documents for my University Department Head position are 20, 30, or even 50 pages long, if not longer, and I often have to skim through things to get the whole picture.

I try to leave only one or two applications open at a time, so I don't think it's a ram issue.

I'll see what others on the list come up with, and thanks for letting me know my message got through.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dani L Pagador" <axs.brl@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 8:17 AM
Subject: RE: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 usingWindows 7 and Jaws 13


Hi, Tom.
I didn't see your post yesterday, but it could be because it got lost in my
black hole of an Inbox. Just wanted you to know you're still coming through.
Out of curiosity, how long are your documents? My Word docs are fairly
short, but I could put one together to get the same page length to see if I
can replicate your problem here. Also, might it be a question of low RAM
i.e., too many open applications using up your RAM?


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:45 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Fw: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using
Windows 7 and Jaws 13

Hi, all.

Are my posts making it to the list?

Yesterday, I posted the quiry below, and didn't get any response whatsoever
which seems very strange to me.

I did get a response with some suggestions from Freedom Scientific, which I
will try today, but I would appreciate any of your thoughts as well.

Just wanting to be sure I am still getting through.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using Windows
7 and Jaws 13


Hello.

Recently, I have been encountering a frustrating problem at work when
reading through documents in Microsoft Word 2010 with Windows 7 and
Jaws 13.

Specifically, I can navigate through the first page or so of the
document fine. However, after that, Jaws becomes extremely sluggish,
and fails to speak consistently. Often, the computer actually seems
to freeze up for a few seconds, until Jaws recovers, only to have the
problem happen again after another brief period of reading.

I have tried to read the documents using the draft option under the
view tab, but to no avail.

Do you have any solutions to this problem, or suggestions of things
for me to try to remedy the situation?

Thanks!


Tom Behler from Michigan


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Re: Graphics and Blanks

Soronel Haetir
 

For web apps you pretty much need to get whoever put this together to
add "alt" attributes to the img pages.

You *might* be able to do something with your browser and scripting,
basically for this one site recognize these particular source HTML
sequences and replace them with something you can use, but honestly
that is very iffy compared to getting the application developer to
fix it on their end.

On 9/14/12, Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:
I think I may just be stuck on this one, but I thought I would give the list
to try.
At work, we use a web-based document management program. When one searches
for documents, the results come up in a table. The table reads just fine;
however, a number of the documents are in PDF format and are nothing but
pictures. Sometimes, they have been run through an OCR package and have
been converted to Word format.
In the results table in the column just ahead of the document name, there
are little icons or graphics. They indicate to sighted users whether the
document in question is an e-mail, is an e-mail message with an attachment,
is a Word document, is a PDF document, and so on. These graphics are not
read by JAWS.
In the JAWS manual, there is a section on labeling graphics; however, that
section indicates that, if it is a true graphic, the word graphic" and a
number will be enunciated by JAWS.
In fact, when I move the mouse (JAWS cursor) over this graphic, JAWS just
says "blank".
Does anyone have any suggestions for how to label this thing?


I. Edward Marquette
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Re: Microsoft Lync and Alcatel Softphone

Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 

We use Nortel, and my problem was hardware related. Getting to the
pick-up button was so time consuming that every message would have
rolled over to voice mail. There was supposed to be a button on the
headset, but it never worked properly. It would end a call, but not
initiate one. What was needed was a hot key that could be accessed
quickly from any application. IT was never able to overcome this.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 12:18 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Microsoft Lync and Alcatel Softphone

Good luck!
Most soft phones are horrible when it comes to accessibility. Hope this
one is an exception.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Delaunay Christophe
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 8:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Microsoft Lync and Alcatel Softphone

Hi there,

These two pieces of software, which run together, will be deployed soon
on my computer, in order to replace the phone I'm currently using.

After the replacement, it will not be possible for me to handle phone
calls without the computer, a PC running windows XP pro SP3 and Jaws 12.

So, does anyone here know about these pieces of software? In particular,
to what extent are they accessible with jaws?

Many thanks in advance. Have a nice day. Christophe Delaunay

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Graphics and Blanks

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

I think I may just be stuck on this one, but I thought I would give the list to try.
At work, we use a web-based document management program. When one searches for documents, the results come up in a table. The table reads just fine; however, a number of the documents are in PDF format and are nothing but pictures. Sometimes, they have been run through an OCR package and have been converted to Word format.
In the results table in the column just ahead of the document name, there are little icons or graphics. They indicate to sighted users whether the document in question is an e-mail, is an e-mail message with an attachment, is a Word document, is a PDF document, and so on. These graphics are not read by JAWS.
In the JAWS manual, there is a section on labeling graphics; however, that section indicates that, if it is a true graphic, the word graphic" and a number will be enunciated by JAWS.
In fact, when I move the mouse (JAWS cursor) over this graphic, JAWS just says "blank".
Does anyone have any suggestions for how to label this thing?


I. Edward Marquette
Direct Dial: 816.502.4646
Mobile: 816.812.0088
Google Voice: 408.692.5640
Facsimile: 816.960.0041
Kutak Rock LLP
1010 Grand Boulevard
Suite 500
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ed.marquette@kutakrock.com




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Re: Microsoft Lync and Alcatel Softphone

Dave...
 

Never used Alcatel with Softphone, but do use Cisco with a product called
Softphone. Soft phone comes from a separate provider called IP blue. It
works well with JAWS, as the developers have designed in accessibility. Your
IT department should be able to research the product and get help from IP
blue on setting it up and configuring it for JAWS.

Here's my Help/About menu. Bear in mind that I'm using Windows 7, so the
version for XP may have a different revision number...

Softphone
VPGO-PC 508 Version 2.15.35.49
Copyright (C) 2002-2011
IP blue Software Solutions, LLC.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Delaunay Christophe" <christophe.delaunay@technicolor.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 06:46
Subject: Microsoft Lync and Alcatel Softphone


Hi there,

These two pieces of software, which run together, will be deployed soon on
my computer, in order to replace the phone I'm currently using.

After the replacement, it will not be possible for me to handle phone calls
without the computer, a PC running windows XP pro SP3 and Jaws 12.

So, does anyone here know about these pieces of software? In particular, to
what extent are they accessible with jaws?

Many thanks in advance. Have a nice day. Christophe Delaunay

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Re: Microsoft Lync and Alcatel Softphone

Marquette, Ed <Ed.Marquette@...>
 

Good luck!
Most soft phones are horrible when it comes to accessibility. Hope this one is an exception.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Delaunay Christophe
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 8:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Microsoft Lync and Alcatel Softphone

Hi there,

These two pieces of software, which run together, will be deployed soon on my computer, in order to replace the phone I'm currently using.

After the replacement, it will not be possible for me to handle phone calls without the computer, a PC running windows XP pro SP3 and Jaws 12.

So, does anyone here know about these pieces of software? In particular, to what extent are they accessible with jaws?

Many thanks in advance. Have a nice day. Christophe Delaunay

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Re: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta

James Homuth
 

I don't believe Chrome is built on the Mozilla platform, but I also don't
pay much attention to Chrome as the few times I've fought with it, I ended
up just removing it and using something else. I've noticed, though, that
I've been needing to refresh the screen more frequently when pages update
while using either Firefox or IE on a 32-bit XP system running JAWS 13, so
I'm not entirely sure what the issue is.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of William Sallander
Sent: September 13, 2012 10:22 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta

Has anyone out there tried using Google Chrome with the Jaws 14 beta?
I've noticed that when going from one web page to another, I seem to need to
refresh the Screen to read the current page.
I also believe this might be happening with Firefox since it is my
understanding that both Chrome and Firefox are built on the Mozilla
platform.
I'm using the 64 bit edition of the beta on a vista machine.
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Re: Fw: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using Windows 7 and Jaws 13

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

nope.


At 05:44 AM 9/14/2012, you wrote:
Hi, all.

Are my posts making it to the list?

Yesterday, I posted the quiry below, and didn't get any response whatsoever which seems very strange to me.

I did get a response with some suggestions from Freedom Scientific, which I will try today, but I would appreciate any of your thoughts as well.

Just wanting to be sure I am still getting through.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using Windows 7 and Jaws 13


Hello.

Recently, I have been encountering a frustrating problem at work when reading through documents in Microsoft Word 2010 with Windows 7 and Jaws 13.

Specifically, I can navigate through the first page or so of the document fine. However, after that, Jaws becomes extremely sluggish, and fails to speak consistently. Often, the computer actually seems to freeze up for a few seconds, until Jaws recovers, only to have the problem happen again after another brief period of reading.

I have tried to read the documents using the draft option under the view tab, but to no avail.

Do you have any solutions to this problem, or suggestions of things for me to try to remedy the situation?

Thanks!


Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: beta

Soronel Haetir
 

I purchased a bunch of Ivona voices but it turned out I don't really like them:/

I will admit they are a fair bit faster than real speak, but *shrug*.

On 9/13/12, Bill Spiry <b.s.spiry@gmail.com> wrote:
I've been using Ivona voices with JAWS for a few years, they are a bit
pricey but they are by far the most human like I've ever used. Not as
snappy
as Elq but very good. for long reading, hard to beat. Down side is that
they
are expensive voices.

http://www.ivona.com/us/

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:42 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: beta

Ted,

I think you need some therapy...;-)

But then I have my love of the feel of only certain keyboards...

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)" <Ted.Lisle@ky.gov>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 08:34
Subject: RE: beta


I think Shelly takes the prize. With a little tweaking she sounds
reasonably respectable, but I still hear marge Simpson. DecTalk's Betty
was pleasant, and you could make good time. In fact, she was my
every-day reader at work during my DecTalk period. The SAPI 4 females
were okay too, but slo-o-o-ow! I guess I still have my crush on Ms.
Karen, and bring her out from time to time, repeats and all.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:19 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: beta


Well sounds like the same Samantha, Jill and tom we have with
Real Speak. I am downloading the US voices now, but probably will stick
with Eloquence for most things, I had hoped we would get different
voices but then my iPhone only has Samantha so I should be used to her
by now, but, she still sounds like a heavy smoker and Jill isn't much
better.


Rose Combs
rosecombs@Q.com

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:41 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: beta

Those new speech alternatives sound tempting, but we'll see. RealSpeak
and SAPI 5 were both supposed to represent the Second Coming, but both
proved disappointing.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:39 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: beta

I might actually get my hands on that this time. If for no other reason
than I haven't yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com
[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: September 12, 2012 12:39 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: beta

Can't wait.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <holgerfiallo@comcast.net>
To: "JFW" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 16:24
Subject: beta


The JAWS 14 English public beta is scheduled for release the week of
September 10 - 14, 2012.

Holger Fiallo
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Re: How do I assign an applications key to also read a usercreated frame?

Bill White <billwhite92701@...>
 

He's not saying he wants to assign THE Application key to read the frame. He's saying he wants to assign a particular unnamed key for a specific application: That of reading the frame.

Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Truong" <davidtruong@optusnet.com.au>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:37 PM
Subject: RE: How do I assign an applications key to also read a usercreated frame?


Hi,

I could write the script for you but why on earth would you want to use the
application key to read a frame?



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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2012 3:41 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How do I assign an applications key to also read a user created
frame?

Thanks Dave. Hope I don't need to learn scripting just for this. I have
not the patients to study Jaws scripting. Tried before and gave up.

There are lots of times one wants to trigger a frame with an application's
key command so this should be built in to frames but Jaws complains if one
tried to assign a keystroke that has already been used or then the
application won't activate because the key isn't passed through
automatically.

Bob


On 9/11/2012 11:00 AM, Farfar Carlson wrote:
Bob,

Sounds like you need to write a script to do that. But that's not my
expertise, so only a guess.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Logue" <bobcat11@telusplanet.net>
To: "JFW" <Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 09:54
Subject: How do I assign an applications key to also read a user created
frame?


How do I assign an applications key to also read a user created Jaws
frame? For example. I would like my recording program to read the
status when I press ctrl+r to start the recording so I'll know it started.

Thanks.

Bob

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Microsoft Lync and Alcatel Softphone

Delaunay Christophe <christophe.delaunay@...>
 

Hi there,

These two pieces of software, which run together, will be deployed soon on my computer, in order to replace the phone I'm currently using.

After the replacement, it will not be possible for me to handle phone calls without the computer, a PC running windows XP pro SP3 and Jaws 12.

So, does anyone here know about these pieces of software? In particular, to what extent are they accessible with jaws?

Many thanks in advance. Have a nice day. Christophe Delaunay


Re: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using Windows 7 and Jaws 13

Londa Peterson <lpeterson@...>
 

You're getting to the list. Unfortunately I have never encountered your
particular problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 5:45 AM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Fw: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using
Windows 7 and Jaws 13

Hi, all.

Are my posts making it to the list?

Yesterday, I posted the quiry below, and didn't get any response whatsoever
which seems very strange to me.

I did get a response with some suggestions from Freedom Scientific, which I
will try today, but I would appreciate any of your thoughts as well.

Just wanting to be sure I am still getting through.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using Windows
7 and Jaws 13


Hello.

Recently, I have been encountering a frustrating problem at work when
reading through documents in Microsoft Word 2010 with Windows 7 and Jaws
13.

Specifically, I can navigate through the first page or so of the document
fine. However, after that, Jaws becomes extremely sluggish, and fails to
speak consistently. Often, the computer actually seems to freeze up for a
few seconds, until Jaws recovers, only to have the problem happen again
after another brief period of reading.

I have tried to read the documents using the draft option under the view
tab, but to no avail.

Do you have any solutions to this problem, or suggestions of things for me
to try to remedy the situation?

Thanks!


Tom Behler from Michigan


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Re: Fw: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using Windows 7 and Jaws 13

Ann Byrne
 

If you don't need the formatting, try saving the document as text and see if it reads better.

At 04:44 AM 9/14/2012, you wrote:
Hi, all.

Are my posts making it to the list?

Yesterday, I posted the quiry below, and didn't get any response whatsoever which seems very strange to me.

I did get a response with some suggestions from Freedom Scientific, which I will try today, but I would appreciate any of your thoughts as well.

Just wanting to be sure I am still getting through.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using Windows 7 and Jaws 13


Hello.

Recently, I have been encountering a frustrating problem at work when reading through documents in Microsoft Word 2010 with Windows 7 and Jaws 13.

Specifically, I can navigate through the first page or so of the document fine. However, after that, Jaws becomes extremely sluggish, and fails to speak consistently. Often, the computer actually seems to freeze up for a few seconds, until Jaws recovers, only to have the problem happen again after another brief period of reading.

I have tried to read the documents using the draft option under the view tab, but to no avail.

Do you have any solutions to this problem, or suggestions of things for me to try to remedy the situation?

Thanks!


Tom Behler from Michigan

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Re: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using Windows 7 and Jaws 13

Daniel Garcia <dangarcia3@...>
 

Yes, you are getting through. I did notice that yesterday a post of mine
took several hours to make it through. This happens sometimes.

As far as your problem with JAWS, Word 2010 docs, I sometimes encounter
similar problems when I am sent files that are protected. I usually end up
copy/pasting it to a new document which I then read with no problems.

Daniel Garcia
Northville, MI

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 5:45 AM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Fw: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using
Windows 7 and Jaws 13

Hi, all.

Are my posts making it to the list?

Yesterday, I posted the quiry below, and didn't get any response whatsoever
which seems very strange to me.

I did get a response with some suggestions from Freedom Scientific, which I
will try today, but I would appreciate any of your thoughts as well.

Just wanting to be sure I am still getting through.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using Windows
7 and Jaws 13


Hello.

Recently, I have been encountering a frustrating problem at work when
reading through documents in Microsoft Word 2010 with Windows 7 and
Jaws 13.

Specifically, I can navigate through the first page or so of the
document fine. However, after that, Jaws becomes extremely sluggish,
and fails to speak consistently. Often, the computer actually seems
to freeze up for a few seconds, until Jaws recovers, only to have the
problem happen again after another brief period of reading.

I have tried to read the documents using the draft option under the
view tab, but to no avail.

Do you have any solutions to this problem, or suggestions of things
for me to try to remedy the situation?

Thanks!


Tom Behler from Michigan


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Re: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using Windows 7 and Jaws 13

Dani Pagador
 

Hi, Tom.
I didn't see your post yesterday, but it could be because it got lost in my
black hole of an Inbox. Just wanted you to know you're still coming through.
Out of curiosity, how long are your documents? My Word docs are fairly
short, but I could put one together to get the same page length to see if I
can replicate your problem here. Also, might it be a question of low RAM
i.e., too many open applications using up your RAM?

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:45 PM
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Subject: Fw: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using
Windows 7 and Jaws 13

Hi, all.

Are my posts making it to the list?

Yesterday, I posted the quiry below, and didn't get any response whatsoever
which seems very strange to me.

I did get a response with some suggestions from Freedom Scientific, which I
will try today, but I would appreciate any of your thoughts as well.

Just wanting to be sure I am still getting through.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using Windows
7 and Jaws 13


Hello.

Recently, I have been encountering a frustrating problem at work when
reading through documents in Microsoft Word 2010 with Windows 7 and
Jaws 13.

Specifically, I can navigate through the first page or so of the
document fine. However, after that, Jaws becomes extremely sluggish,
and fails to speak consistently. Often, the computer actually seems
to freeze up for a few seconds, until Jaws recovers, only to have the
problem happen again after another brief period of reading.

I have tried to read the documents using the draft option under the
view tab, but to no avail.

Do you have any solutions to this problem, or suggestions of things
for me to try to remedy the situation?

Thanks!


Tom Behler from Michigan


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Fw: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using Windows 7 and Jaws 13

Tom Behler
 

Hi, all.

Are my posts making it to the list?

Yesterday, I posted the quiry below, and didn't get any response whatsoever which seems very strange to me.

I did get a response with some suggestions from Freedom Scientific, which I will try today, but I would appreciate any of your thoughts as well.

Just wanting to be sure I am still getting through.

Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Behler" <tombehler@gmail.com>
To: "Jaws users e-mail list" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: Problems When Reading Through Documents In Word 2010 using Windows 7 and Jaws 13


Hello.

Recently, I have been encountering a frustrating problem at work when reading through documents in Microsoft Word 2010 with Windows 7 and Jaws 13.

Specifically, I can navigate through the first page or so of the document fine. However, after that, Jaws becomes extremely sluggish, and fails to speak consistently. Often, the computer actually seems to freeze up for a few seconds, until Jaws recovers, only to have the problem happen again after another brief period of reading.

I have tried to read the documents using the draft option under the view tab, but to no avail.

Do you have any solutions to this problem, or suggestions of things for me to try to remedy the situation?

Thanks!


Tom Behler from Michigan


Re: beta

kelsey trevett <trevk007@...>
 

Go to help menu from jaws, then internet resources. it's there. that may be a bit quicker.

----- Original Message -----
From: Milton Ota <mota1252@samobile.net
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Date sent: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:51:41 -0400
Subject: Re: beta

Yes, the Vocalizer synthesizers are available. I had a difficult time
finding them but if you keep trying, you'll get to it.

HTH

Original message:
Are the new voices available in the beta? I am using the beta, but
haven't had much time to explore.

Thanks,

Russell

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-09-13, at 8:50 AM, Soronel Haetir <soronel.haetir@gmail.com> wrote:

Eloquence is just too mechanical to be comfortable for long reading for me.

I also find that it has some nasty buffering issues on the systems I
use, where on long pages it tends to speed up after awhile as the
speech queue is filled. It starts at a speed I would find comfortable
but then works its way to something much faster.

On 9/13/12, Rose Combs <rosecombs@q.com> wrote:
I think the best is the Paul voice from the K1000 package Next is the
Bookshare app for the I phone or Eloquence. So far I am not really
impressed with Real Speak or Vocalizer, not enough to change profiles even
for reading long articles.

I had Open Book set for Tom for a while and changed it back to Eloquence
where I could read faster.


Rose Combs
rosecombs@Q.com


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 4:56 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: beta

I have to really pay attention, go slower, and ask for lots of repeats.
Eloquence, mechanical though it may be, gives me no trouble, and I can fly!
Amazing how subjective this stuff is. However, I'll readily admit
RealSpeak
dialects are far better. Eloquence British is about the stupidest thing
I've ever heard.

Ted

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[mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir

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Re: How do I assign an applications key to also read a user created frame?

David Truong <davidtruong@...>
 

Hi,

I could write the script for you but why on earth would you want to use the
application key to read a frame?



David Truong

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-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2012 3:41 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: How do I assign an applications key to also read a user created
frame?

Thanks Dave. Hope I don't need to learn scripting just for this. I have
not the patients to study Jaws scripting. Tried before and gave up.

There are lots of times one wants to trigger a frame with an application's
key command so this should be built in to frames but Jaws complains if one
tried to assign a keystroke that has already been used or then the
application won't activate because the key isn't passed through
automatically.

Bob


On 9/11/2012 11:00 AM, Farfar Carlson wrote:
Bob,

Sounds like you need to write a script to do that. But that's not my
expertise, so only a guess.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Logue" <bobcat11@telusplanet.net>
To: "JFW" <Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 09:54
Subject: How do I assign an applications key to also read a user created
frame?


How do I assign an applications key to also read a user created Jaws
frame? For example. I would like my recording program to read the
status when I press ctrl+r to start the recording so I'll know it started.

Thanks.

Bob

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Google Chrome and jaws 14 beta

William Sallander <wsallander@...>
 

Has anyone out there tried using Google Chrome with the Jaws 14 beta?
I've noticed that when going from one web page to another, I seem to need to refresh the Screen to read the current page.
I also believe this might be happening with Firefox since it is my understanding that both Chrome and Firefox are built on the Mozilla platform.
I'm using the 64 bit edition of the beta on a vista machine.
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Re: language detect problem with beta

Bill Spiry
 

That has been a quirk with the last few versions of jaws on some very few
pages. Only solution I've found is to turn language detection off which
isn't a problem for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Robert Logue
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:14 AM
To: JFW
Subject: language detect problem with beta

I'm excited about the announcment but the problem is that Jaws beta 14 read
it in French. The page is in English. I had to God back to an English page
then turn language detect off before I could get this page to read in
English. Simply switching Language detect off without going to an english
page first didn't do the job.

Bob

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