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Re: What? Windows 8?
Soronel Haetir
No matter how improved narrator is I have a difficult time believing
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that MS has made the investment required to bring it on par with jaws.
On 9/7/12, John Sherrer <john@...> wrote:
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Re: Laptop question
Terra Syslo <tlsyslo@...>
Sorry for the late response if this has already been solved, but you need to
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go into the bios with sighted assistance and disable action keys. I had to do that with the HP I had briefly, but I did have major issues with the numpad and insert keys not working as they should with JFW, so I had to send it back. Good luck. From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 8:22 AM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Laptop question Mike, have you switched to laptop keyboard configuration? As I recall, it's in JAWS basic settings. I avoid the different key combinations by attaching a USB numpad and staying with desktop keyboard. In most cases, with the laptop keyboard, you substitute the caps lock key for the insert key. That's why you'll often find listers writing "JAWS key" instead of "insert." I know someone will post the exact keystroke you need here.
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Re: What? Windows 8?
John ESherrer
Will we need JAWS since Narrator is greatly improved?
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John Sherrer
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From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 2:47 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: What? Windows 8? On the FSCast, they make the point that they've worked with MS to incorporate keyboard commands and to maintain the JAWS cursor. The two limitations I recall are that first-letter navigation will no longer work, at least in what we know as the start menu, and JAWS cursor will no longer work in unrestricted mode. The JAWS cursor's range will be limited to the application you're in. (I hope I recall correctly.) I meant to mention that Windows 8 is scheduled for release on October 26, and JAWS 14 is planned for release in late October. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 1:35 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: What? Windows 8? Windows 8 may ve interesting. I listened to a Podcast through iBlink Radio (iPhone App) put out by the NVDA folks. It looks like Windows 8 will have touch screen gesture type functionality as well as support for little programs, like Apps on the iPhone, that connect to the Web but do not require the browser as is typically the case in Windows today. If JAWS 14 is fully supporting all that new Windows 8 stuff, the things broken in JAWS 13 will probably just stay broken. I guess we will just have to wait. I'm content with JAWS 12, even though I have (and occasionally have to use) that train wreck called JAWS 13. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Crystal French Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 12:11 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: What? Windows 8? Oh, good grief. I'm working on getting a new computer right now, which will have Windows 7... Now, they are putting out an 8. At least, my Jaws is current, for whatever that is worth. <sigh> Crystal, who is never up to speed _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ANY FEDERAL TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE SHOULD NOT BE USED OR REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED, AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE. This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipients above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender at 402-346-6000 and delete this E-mail message. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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keyboard behavior
Lois
I think I'm having a memory cramp. Recently I replaced a computer with a new one and I've set something wrong. Now I don't recall how to fix it.
When I hold down the left or right arrow keys, I'm accustomed to having them move in their proper direction and let me hear it happening. This isn't happening. Where do I set such behavior? Thank you. Lois Goodine. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.the-jdh.com/pipermail/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com/attachments/20120907/35ec95c7/attachment.html>
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Re: Only Two Solutions to Solve Captchas
Soronel Haetir
And remember, so long as the websites rely on visually confusing
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images they have to be decipherable by people who can see. That does in fact put an upper limit on how hard challenge images can be, and from the complaints I've seen from sighted folks plenty of websites are already pushing up against it.
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Re: What? Windows 8?
Matt Dierckens <matt.dierckens@...>
it sounds like its like spotlight on the mac.
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I also heard that narrator is so much like voiceover its not even funny. I'd like to give it a try though. Matt Sent from my mac Twitter: matt692 msn: matt692@... skype: blindman3221
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There is no start menu, it's now called start screen. You can't press the letter to jump to things, but you can type a few letters and it will bring up options with those letters. You can type anywhere in the start screen and do this.
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Re: What? Windows 8?
Mariea Harris <mharris1979@...>
There is no start menu, it's now called start screen. You can't press the letter to jump to things, but you can type a few letters and it will bring up options with those letters. You can type anywhere in the start screen and do this.
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Re: Only Two Solutions to Solve Captchas
James Homuth
Here's a thing to consider. If the OCR technology to reliably solve a
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captcha existed, that would only translate to the captcha developers inventing a better captcha. It's happened before, and will happen again. It's also why WebVisum can't always solve every captcha you throw at it. Because the same technology screenreaders, WebVisum and the like would be relying on would be just as available to an aspiring spambot. The only real alternative, which a couple deaf blind friends of mine are pushing for, is a captcha alternative. They do exist, and in fact I've thought about implementing one for my admitedly not as frequently updated blog. But the truth is, until a standard comes along that replaces captcha, adaptive tech will be competing with spammers, who are competing with the captcha developers. If the spammers lose, more often than not, so will the adaptive tech.
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From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Peter Donahue Sent: September 7, 2012 5:55 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Only Two Solutions to Solve Captchas Hello again everyone, There are only two solutions that will work for us in our book to solve captchas. They are: 1. Including a captcha solver in screen reading products and: 2. Encourage Web and application developers to use captcha alternatives. Perhaps what FS and company has failed to consider is that there could be legal and lotgistical issues waiting to be sprung on them if they continue to refuse to add a captcha solver to JFW. They'd be damned if they did and damned if they didn't! Sorry guys but this is something I'm very passionate about. If this new Web tool is a subscription service I would not buy it unless a captcha solver was included. Web Vism is a good tool but if you don't want to be married to FireFox a cross-browser and application captcha solution is necessary. I recently encountered a software application that requires you to enter a 4-character code displayed for 60 seconds in order to perform a few tasks. Luckily there are only 4 of them and there something you wouldn't perform daily unless your job required it. I encouraged the developer to add anoption to disable that captcha in future releases of this software. This is not an Internet front-facing application so one wonders why the captcha is even there in the first place. As for audio captchas how many deaf-blind people do you know that could use an audio captcha?My wife has normal hearing and she had trouble hearing the characters spoken that's how badly garbled they were. Perhaps the new Web tool would have the ability to remove background noise and improve the quality of the audio making them easier to understand. My wife will be home soon so I'll wind this up for now. All the best for a great weekend. Peter Donahue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Stone" <alexstone871@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 4:15 PM Subject: RE: JAWS 14 FSCast What about Webvisum? Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of George B Sent: 07 September 2012 21:55 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: JAWS 14 FSCast that one will never happen with a p c it will always have to be done with site or audio -----Original Message----- _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Stone" <alexstone871@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 4:15 PM Subject: RE: JAWS 14 FSCast What about Webvisum? Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of George B Sent: 07 September 2012 21:55 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: JAWS 14 FSCast that one will never happen with a p c it will always have to be done with site or audio -----Original Message----- _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What? Windows 8?
Crystal French
Yes, my XP system has served me very well over the years and did what I needed it to do.
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I guess though it is Windows 7 here I come. Crystal
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From: "Cristobal" <crismunoz54@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 5:32 PM Subject: RE: What? Windows 8? Same here. I'm happy with my Win 7 machine after sticking with XP Pro for
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Re: What? Windows 8?
Cristóbal
Same here. I'm happy with my Win 7 machine after sticking with XP Pro for
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eight years and being able to avoid Vista entirely. Besides, if I were to consider getting a Win 8 machine, I'd probably wait at least until the first service pac is released and perhaps a few JFW updates addressing God knows whatever bugs and gremlins that are bound to pop up.
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From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 3:23 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: What? Windows 8? I plan to stay with 7 until and if something compelling makes me change, something I need or want to do, my work place is still on XP, I did not jump to Windows 7 the day it came out either. Rose Combs rosecombs@Q.com -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 12:05 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: What? Windows 8? Debatable. I'm still on XP, so I don't really know what I'm talking about, but I plan to advance straight to Windows 8. for one thing, it appears that Windows 8 will give access to the kinds of apps we're always hearing about with Apple. One feature mentioned on the FSCast is that every app will indicate if it is accessible. The accessibility positives may not be reliable, but it would save a lot of time to know when they're definitely not. Improving accessibility features look like they might be an ongoing advantage of Windows 8. I hope this isn't wishful thinking. systems. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 2:24 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: What? Windows 8? Crystal. Many people ran XP for six years because they didn't want to bother with Vista. There is no reason at all not to stick with Windows 7 for the forseeable future. At 01:10 PM 9/7/2012, you wrote: Oh, good grief.-------------------------------------------------- CTS MASTERING, affordable and professional mixing and mastering: http://www.ctsmastering.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/CTSMASTERING BLOG: www.ctsmastering.com/blog Linked In: http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/chris-smart/46/824/536 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What? Windows 8?
Rose Combs <rosecombs@...>
I plan to stay with 7 until and if something compelling makes me change,
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something I need or want to do, my work place is still on XP, I did not jump to Windows 7 the day it came out either. Rose Combs rosecombs@Q.com
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From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 12:05 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: What? Windows 8? Debatable. I'm still on XP, so I don't really know what I'm talking about, but I plan to advance straight to Windows 8. for one thing, it appears that Windows 8 will give access to the kinds of apps we're always hearing about with Apple. One feature mentioned on the FSCast is that every app will indicate if it is accessible. The accessibility positives may not be reliable, but it would save a lot of time to know when they're definitely not. Improving accessibility features look like they might be an ongoing advantage of Windows 8. I hope this isn't wishful thinking. systems. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 2:24 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: What? Windows 8? Crystal. Many people ran XP for six years because they didn't want to bother with Vista. There is no reason at all not to stick with Windows 7 for the forseeable future. At 01:10 PM 9/7/2012, you wrote: Oh, good grief.-------------------------------------------------- CTS MASTERING, affordable and professional mixing and mastering: http://www.ctsmastering.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/CTSMASTERING BLOG: www.ctsmastering.com/blog Linked In: http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/chris-smart/46/824/536 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Only Two Solutions to Solve Captchas
Peter Donahue
Hello again everyone,
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There are only two solutions that will work for us in our book to solve captchas. They are: 1. Including a captcha solver in screen reading products and: 2. Encourage Web and application developers to use captcha alternatives. Perhaps what FS and company has failed to consider is that there could be legal and lotgistical issues waiting to be sprung on them if they continue to refuse to add a captcha solver to JFW. They'd be damned if they did and damned if they didn't! Sorry guys but this is something I'm very passionate about. If this new Web tool is a subscription service I would not buy it unless a captcha solver was included. Web Vism is a good tool but if you don't want to be married to FireFox a cross-browser and application captcha solution is necessary. I recently encountered a software application that requires you to enter a 4-character code displayed for 60 seconds in order to perform a few tasks. Luckily there are only 4 of them and there something you wouldn't perform daily unless your job required it. I encouraged the developer to add anoption to disable that captcha in future releases of this software. This is not an Internet front-facing application so one wonders why the captcha is even there in the first place. As for audio captchas how many deaf-blind people do you know that could use an audio captcha?My wife has normal hearing and she had trouble hearing the characters spoken that's how badly garbled they were. Perhaps the new Web tool would have the ability to remove background noise and improve the quality of the audio making them easier to understand. My wife will be home soon so I'll wind this up for now. All the best for a great weekend. Peter Donahue
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From: "Alex Stone" <alexstone871@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 4:15 PM Subject: RE: JAWS 14 FSCast What about Webvisum? Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of George B Sent: 07 September 2012 21:55 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: JAWS 14 FSCast that one will never happen with a p c it will always have to be done with site or audio -----Original Message----- _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Stone" <alexstone871@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 4:15 PM Subject: RE: JAWS 14 FSCast What about Webvisum? Alex -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of George B Sent: 07 September 2012 21:55 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: JAWS 14 FSCast that one will never happen with a p c it will always have to be done with site or audio -----Original Message----- _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: JAWS 14 FSCast
Peter Donahue
Good afternoon everyone,
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Unless the legal use of captchas is challenged particularly if it means jeopardizing jobs, and making parts of software unusable by us things won't change. Since I design Web sites I know there are captcha alternatives that can be used some of which involve no user interaction. The ColdFusion CFFormProtect Utility is one example of this. I know because I've installed it on several Web sites. If more developers rolled up their sleeves, screen reader vendors quit giving us the same old horsepucky with the line that if their product could read captcha characters so could a spam bot, and the blind demanded an end to the use of these things in place of screen reader-friendly alternatives captchas and their kin could soon be on the endangered species list. I'm also tired of hearing the line about comparing apples and oranges. They're different fruits but can grow in the same orchard so let's not go there! Since I design Web sites I know for a fact that there are alternatives that are just as effective against spam bots as are captchas. Some of them like the ColdFusion CFFormProtect Module can stop spammers without any interaction by site visitors. Perhaps the same technology used by textcaptcha.com could be modified to allow JAWS to recognize captcha images so users can read them but spam bots cannot. These folks have obviously found a way to make that happen. When I submitted a feedback form on www.withheart and voice.com JAWS read the captcha question perfectly along with my response and I was successfully able to submit the form without sighted help. Someone has all ready done what I keep hearing "Will never happen", etc. Garbage! Screen reader developers need to implement it in their products. Anyway let's see what FS has developed with this shiny new Web access toy. Peter Donahue
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From: "George B" <gbmagoo@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 3:54 PM Subject: RE: JAWS 14 FSCast that one will never happen with a p c it will always have to be done with site or audio -----Original Message----- _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: JAWS 14 FSCast
Alex Stone <alexstone871@...>
What about Webvisum?
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Alex
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Re: Occasional JAWS 13
Kimber Gardner
Your experience with jaws 13 and word 2003 mirrors ny own. Since word is the application I use most often, I remain a loyal jaws 12 user. I guess we' ll see what jaws 14 brings.
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On Sep 7, 2012, at 2:22 PM, "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@...> wrote:
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Re: JAWS 14 FSCast
George B
that one will never happen with a p c it will always have to be done with
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Re: What? Windows 8?
Cy Selfridge
I can not imagine how much one could have if one suddenly switched to
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Windows 8 and JAWS 14 all at the same time. (LOLLOLLOLLOL) Better keep that old typewriter handy. Cy
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From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 12:47 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: What? Windows 8? On the FSCast, they make the point that they've worked with MS to incorporate keyboard commands and to maintain the JAWS cursor. The two limitations I recall are that first-letter navigation will no longer work, at least in what we know as the start menu, and JAWS cursor will no longer work in unrestricted mode. The JAWS cursor's range will be limited to the application you're in. (I hope I recall correctly.) I meant to mention that Windows 8 is scheduled for release on October 26, and JAWS 14 is planned for release in late October. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 1:35 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: What? Windows 8? Windows 8 may ve interesting. I listened to a Podcast through iBlink Radio (iPhone App) put out by the NVDA folks. It looks like Windows 8 will have touch screen gesture type functionality as well as support for little programs, like Apps on the iPhone, that connect to the Web but do not require the browser as is typically the case in Windows today. If JAWS 14 is fully supporting all that new Windows 8 stuff, the things broken in JAWS 13 will probably just stay broken. I guess we will just have to wait. I'm content with JAWS 12, even though I have (and occasionally have to use) that train wreck called JAWS 13. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Crystal French Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 12:11 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: What? Windows 8? Oh, good grief. I'm working on getting a new computer right now, which will have Windows 7... Now, they are putting out an 8. At least, my Jaws is current, for whatever that is worth. <sigh> Crystal, who is never up to speed _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ANY FEDERAL TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE SHOULD NOT BE USED OR REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED, AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE. This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipients above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender at 402-346-6000 and delete this E-mail message. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What? Windows 8?
Adrian Spratt
Debatable. I'm still on XP, so I don't really know what I'm talking about,
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but I plan to advance straight to Windows 8. for one thing, it appears that Windows 8 will give access to the kinds of apps we're always hearing about with Apple. One feature mentioned on the FSCast is that every app will indicate if it is accessible. The accessibility positives may not be reliable, but it would save a lot of time to know when they're definitely not. Improving accessibility features look like they might be an ongoing advantage of Windows 8. I hope this isn't wishful thinking. systems.
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From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Chris Smart Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 2:24 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: What? Windows 8? Crystal. Many people ran XP for six years because they didn't want to bother with Vista. There is no reason at all not to stick with Windows 7 for the forseeable future. At 01:10 PM 9/7/2012, you wrote: Oh, good grief.-------------------------------------------------- CTS MASTERING, affordable and professional mixing and mastering: http://www.ctsmastering.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/CTSMASTERING BLOG: www.ctsmastering.com/blog Linked In: http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/chris-smart/46/824/536 _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What? Windows 8?
Adrian Spratt
On the FSCast, they make the point that they've worked with MS to
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incorporate keyboard commands and to maintain the JAWS cursor. The two limitations I recall are that first-letter navigation will no longer work, at least in what we know as the start menu, and JAWS cursor will no longer work in unrestricted mode. The JAWS cursor's range will be limited to the application you're in. (I hope I recall correctly.) I meant to mention that Windows 8 is scheduled for release on October 26, and JAWS 14 is planned for release in late October.
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From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 1:35 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: RE: What? Windows 8? Windows 8 may ve interesting. I listened to a Podcast through iBlink Radio (iPhone App) put out by the NVDA folks. It looks like Windows 8 will have touch screen gesture type functionality as well as support for little programs, like Apps on the iPhone, that connect to the Web but do not require the browser as is typically the case in Windows today. If JAWS 14 is fully supporting all that new Windows 8 stuff, the things broken in JAWS 13 will probably just stay broken. I guess we will just have to wait. I'm content with JAWS 12, even though I have (and occasionally have to use) that train wreck called JAWS 13. -----Original Message----- From: jfw-bounces@... [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Crystal French Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 12:11 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: What? Windows 8? Oh, good grief. I'm working on getting a new computer right now, which will have Windows 7... Now, they are putting out an 8. At least, my Jaws is current, for whatever that is worth. <sigh> Crystal, who is never up to speed _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com ANY FEDERAL TAX ADVICE CONTAINED IN THIS MESSAGE SHOULD NOT BE USED OR REFERRED TO IN THE PROMOTING, MARKETING OR RECOMMENDING OF ANY ENTITY, INVESTMENT PLAN OR ARRANGEMENT, AND SUCH ADVICE IS NOT INTENDED OR WRITTEN TO BE USED, AND CANNOT BE USED, BY A TAXPAYER FOR THE PURPOSE OF AVOIDING PENALTIES UNDER THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE. This E-mail message is confidential, is intended only for the named recipients above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or otherwise protected by applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender at 402-346-6000 and delete this E-mail message. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Jfw mailing list Jfw@... http://lists.the-jdh.com/mailman/listinfo/jfw_lists.the-jdh.com
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Re: What? Windows 8?
Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
Crystal. Many people ran XP for six years because they didn't want to bother with Vista. There is no reason at all not to stick with Windows 7 for the forseeable future.
At 01:10 PM 9/7/2012, you wrote: Oh, good grief.-------------------------------------------------- CTS MASTERING, affordable and professional mixing and mastering: http://www.ctsmastering.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/CTSMASTERING BLOG: www.ctsmastering.com/blog Linked In: http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/chris-smart/46/824/536
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