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Re: Solving captcha if you are totally blind.

Bissett, Tom <tom.bissett@...>
 

It would be really great if FS could build in such support. Maybe they could spend their efferts there rather than on researchit. Much more useful.
Regards
Tom Bisset

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Sent: June 22, 2012 3:22 PM
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Subject: Re: Solving captcha if you are totally blind.

I think he was referring to this challenge solving logic. It would
make a certain amount of sense to extend the work they've done to
incorporate basic OCR to be able to handle such situations.

Although that would require very IE and Firefox specific code, and I'm
not sure how much of that they (FS) want.

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Pardon??

At 09:27 AM 6/22/2012, you wrote:
tthey put it into Jaws Chris.
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Re: Solving captcha if you are totally blind.

Soronel Haetir
 

I think he was referring to this challenge solving logic. It would
make a certain amount of sense to extend the work they've done to
incorporate basic OCR to be able to handle such situations.

Although that would require very IE and Firefox specific code, and I'm
not sure how much of that they (FS) want.

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Pardon??

At 09:27 AM 6/22/2012, you wrote:
tthey put it into Jaws Chris.
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Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?

Dave...
 

Yes. Blank. I had nothing to say. That was my point. No content deserves the
same in return.

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blank reply

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Subject: Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?





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Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 08:06
Subject: Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?


What makes you say that?

I don't believe in hacking just to see if you can.

that is an offense our country.


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Re: did i fix it

Dave...
 

Yes.

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ok, here it is. all ok? thanks
On 6/22/2012 12:58 PM, Farfar Going 60 wrote:
Stewart,

Just reply to any message, and let's see.

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hey folks. i'm having some issues with where me replies are showing
up. i think i fixed the issue but i need input. thanks. stewart

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Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?

douglas richard dexheimer
 

blank reply

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Subject: Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?
What makes you say that?
I don't believe in hacking just to see if you can.
that is an offense our country.
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Re: did i fix it

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ok, here it is. all ok? thanks

On 6/22/2012 12:58 PM, Farfar Going 60 wrote:
Stewart,

Just reply to any message, and let's see.

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Subject: did i fix it


hey folks. i'm having some issues with where me replies are showing
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Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?

Dave...
 

Dave Carlson
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What makes you say that?

I don't believe in hacking just to see if you can.

that is an offense our country.


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Re: did i fix it

Dave...
 

Stewart,

Just reply to any message, and let's see.

Dave Carlson
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hey folks. i'm having some issues with where me replies are showing
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Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?

douglas richard dexheimer
 

What idea?

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I like that idea.
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did i fix it

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hey folks. i'm having some issues with where me replies are showing up. i think i fixed the issue but i need input. thanks. stewart


Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?

Raymond Lombardi <ray214@...>
 

What makes you say that?

I don't believe in hacking just to see if you can.

that is an offense our country.


Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?

Raymond Lombardi <ray214@...>
 

What the individual said about the hearing different sounds and yu have to type the word guessing the name of the sound as a captcha.


Audio recaptcha

Lisa Larges
 

Hi Again,
Every time I've used the audio file from reCaptcha with the new voices, I've
gone to the help section and submitted a comment saying that I could not
decipher the voices. As Brent says, there is usally at least one word that I
can not understand, even after multiple tries, and even after downloading
the file as an MP3 which produces slightly better sound.
Of course, I've never heard back from them. But, I'm going to continue to
send a message every time, and I hope others will too.
Third party work arounds are extremely helpful, but it's still no substitute
for having accessibility built in from the start -- accessibility that's
actually tested and that works in the real world.
Whether or not Web Vissum continues to work, the recent developments have
made clear the vagaries of having to depend on alternatives; developers may
not have the money to continue, may lose interest, may get pulled away to
other prodjects etc. It's perfectly understandable but it leaves folks
vulnerable.

Anyway, I encourage others out there to take the time to write a message to
the developers when they come across audio captchas that are unintelligible
or captcha fields with no non-graphical alternatives.

Lisa

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Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:33 AM
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Subject: Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?

If these are what I think they are, I had to do one last week. For audio, it
was 9 or 10 words long, and if you don't understand 1 word, it's invalid. It
seems that at least 1 word is not understandable most times, but I got lucky
once. They definitely made them a lot worse than they were, if Google's ones
are the same as Recaptcha.

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I whent to google and tried to solve a captcha using the audio one and it
is very hard to understand.

I opened it this morning and it worked.



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Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

you logged in successfully again because it is back up and running. It was definitely down when people were reporting as such. You may or may not believe this, but I am inclined to believe their reports rather than yours.

At 09:46 AM 6/22/2012, you wrote:
what you said was very weird about you not being able to log in.
I logged into web vism this morning and it worked.


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Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?

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which idea, Raymond?

At 09:41 AM 6/22/2012, you wrote:
I like that idea.


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Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?

Chris Smart <csmart8@...>
 

You understand what, Raymond? It's hard to know what you are replying to, when you don't quote any of it.

At 09:40 AM 6/22/2012, you wrote:
I understand that, but that is slamming the door in blind peoples' faces when they think of stuff like that before our accessibility.


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Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?

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thank god you're not in a position of authority then eh?
At 09:39 AM 6/22/2012, you wrote:
I also think there should be a law if you hack three times, you're in jail no investigation.
If the cops have your ip address you're in for trouble if you hacked.


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Re: Solving captcha if you are totally blind.

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Pardon??

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Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools? Ans: Webwisum is back

Ahmed Karim
 

Thankfully, Webvisum is back. Chears




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From: Soronel Haetir
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 7:39 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?

Okay, that makes sense too, the address would still be in the local
cache for some amount of time. I'm guessing you don't visit
www.webvisum.com nearly as often as api.webvisum.com is used (I hadn't
used the website in months at the very least), therefore the latter is
going to linger in the cache far longer.

On 6/21/12, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
I used the ping command after going to the command command, and it still
returned an IP address, even though www.webvisum.com is still giving server

errors.
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Subject: Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?


Before the domain expired it would have been easy.

I suspect the way the person figured it out was that they used a tool
that told them what network connections their local computer had open
(that is a reasonable thing to do when checking for malware), and
spotted the address .

After the domain expires, you might get lucky if you happen to know
what the authoritative nameserver for the domain is, because then you
could ask that server rather than the usual cache and forward method
that distributes the name resolution load. It is very unlikely that
the old authoritative nameserver is going to be updated in anything
like a timely manner, the reason the domain disappears from the net is
that the root nameservers instead start saying that someone else is
the new authoritative source.

On 6/21/12, Farfar Going 60 <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Lauren,

Yes, we're scraping the plate clean with our dinner rolls, so we'll soon

be

starving again.

But for now our captcha hunger has been abated.

Carpe Diem!

...and I'm not talking about fish, here.

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Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:54
Subject: Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?


i hate to burst your bouble but how long is this little work around
going to last? I mean eventually even this little work around won't
work for you so where does that leave you? Lets hope they make a free
one that both users of IE and firefox can use.

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Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?

Soronel Haetir
 

Okay, that makes sense too, the address would still be in the local
cache for some amount of time. I'm guessing you don't visit
www.webvisum.com nearly as often as api.webvisum.com is used (I hadn't
used the website in months at the very least), therefore the latter is
going to linger in the cache far longer.

On 6/21/12, Bill White <billwhite92701@dslextreme.com> wrote:
I used the ping command after going to the command command, and it still
returned an IP address, even though www.webvisum.com is still giving server

errors.
Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?


Before the domain expired it would have been easy.

I suspect the way the person figured it out was that they used a tool
that told them what network connections their local computer had open
(that is a reasonable thing to do when checking for malware), and
spotted the address .

After the domain expires, you might get lucky if you happen to know
what the authoritative nameserver for the domain is, because then you
could ask that server rather than the usual cache and forward method
that distributes the name resolution load. It is very unlikely that
the old authoritative nameserver is going to be updated in anything
like a timely manner, the reason the domain disappears from the net is
that the root nameservers instead start saying that someone else is
the new authoritative source.

On 6/21/12, Farfar Going 60 <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Lauren,

Yes, we're scraping the plate clean with our dinner rolls, so we'll soon

be

starving again.

But for now our captcha hunger has been abated.

Carpe Diem!

...and I'm not talking about fish, here.

Dave Carlson
Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell
Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit


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To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:54
Subject: Re: What Happened To Popular CAPTCHA Solving Tools?


i hate to burst your bouble but how long is this little work around
going to last? I mean eventually even this little work around won't
work for you so where does that leave you? Lets hope they make a free
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