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moderated Re: Accessible Ebook Readers

david Jennette
 

Are you using the kindle for pc ap? That is accessible.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 9:28 PM
To: 'jfw@groups.io' <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Accessible Ebook Readers

 

Hey Everyone,

Recently I downloaded a book sample from Amazon but kept getting an error of "Secure Storage" which does not allow the sample to become readable.

Do any of you know of an Ebook reader that is accessible and that supports the Kindle format? I am using Windows 11 and JAWS 2022.

Thanks in advance.


moderated Re: Accessible Ebook Readers

Gene Warner
 

As far as I know, Kindle is a proprietary format exclusive to Amazon, which is why I won't use it, so you'll have to download the Kindle app for whichever operating system you are using.

Gene...

On 9/23/2022 10:27 PM, Robbie Curtis wrote:
Hey Everyone,
Recently I downloaded a book sample from Amazon but kept getting an error of "Secure Storage" which does not allow the sample to become readable.
Do any of you know of an Ebook reader that is accessible and that supports the Kindle format? I am using Windows 11 and JAWS 2022.
Thanks in advance.


moderated Re: Accessible Ebook Readers

Life in Six Dots
 

Robbie,

 

You can download Kindle for PC from Amazon. It’s a free app that will read most Kindle books with JAWS and NVDA, including braille displays. You will need to check that the book has Screen Reader Support—which is found in the Product Details.

 

Paul

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robbie Curtis
Sent: Saturday, 24 September 2022 03:28
To: 'jfw@groups.io' <jfw@groups.io>
Subject: Accessible Ebook Readers

 

Hey Everyone,

Recently I downloaded a book sample from Amazon but kept getting an error of "Secure Storage" which does not allow the sample to become readable.

Do any of you know of an Ebook reader that is accessible and that supports the Kindle format? I am using Windows 11 and JAWS 2022.

Thanks in advance.


moderated Re: JAWS upgrade

Cornelius
 

That's assuming he is from the U.S. Outside of the U.S, generally we
are at the mercy of the deeler as we do not get to enjoy those Vispero
offer.
Even pricing for annual subs are more expensive then that offered by Vispero.

On 9/21/22, Dave Durber <d.durber@...> wrote:
Hello there:

Tell your friend to wait for the official release date of JAWS Version 2023.
Vispero generally offer a discount price to upgrade. This may or, may not
benefit your friend. your friend will need to pay an upgrade fee from JAWS
2019 to 2023, then your friend will need to pay for the SMA.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: HH. Smith Jr.
To: jfw@groups.io
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 11:38 PM
Subject: JAWS upgrade


Hi,



This is a brain freeze or senior moment question. Currently, my friend is
at JAWS2019, he wants to upgrade, does he have to payoff the 2020 thru 2022
to eventually get an SMA at 22 with 23 and 24 waiting in the wings



Thx,












moderated Accessible Ebook Readers

Robbie Curtis
 

Hey Everyone,

Recently I downloaded a book sample from Amazon but kept getting an error of "Secure Storage" which does not allow the sample to become readable.

Do any of you know of an Ebook reader that is accessible and that supports the Kindle format? I am using Windows 11 and JAWS 2022.

Thanks in advance.


moderated Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations

K0LNY
 

Curtis, or anyone else,
How do you bring up the voice on a Vizio?
Thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Delzer" <curtis@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: OT, Accessible TV Recommendations


Vizeo? quite accessible!


Curtis Delzer
H.S.
K6VFO
Rialto, CA
curtis@...

On 9/15/2022 6:07 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
Hi All,
We are looking for an accessible smart TV.
Perhaps smart TVs might be all we can get new any more.
Wal-mart has a lot, some Philips and Roku TVs.
I'm reluctant to get a Roku, because I have a Roku stick device that is
similar to
the Firestick, but the TTS is terrible, and I would not want to deal with
that deplorable voice in the TV menus.
But I want to be able to access the TV menus and set up input options,
like
scanning the antenna and selecting HDMI lines too.
Can anyone make any suggestions?

Thanks.

Glenn





moderated Re: password managers

David Csercsics
 

What happens if you put something like your Apple ID in a password manager? I was thinking of using something like BitWarden or similar but was wondering if you'd have to leave some passwords out of a vault because it might be hard to scrape a password from a vault during install.


moderated Re: password managers

Marty Hutchings
 

So basically, KeePass is the same thing as the Excel database that I already had set up for my passwords, but more incripted?

On 9/23/2022 4:36 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
Hi Marty,

What I would do in your described scenario is to go to the website, open KeePass with the custom shortcut I've created, look up the appropriate entry in my KeePass database, and then do a ctrl + b to copy the username followed by a ctrl + c to copy the password which I would pasted in the appropriate places on the website. I'm not a fan of automatic entry of anything so I much prefer to do the copying and pasting steps manually.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 2:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers

I have downloaded and installed KeePass. I set up a new database and choose a password. Now, what happens when I go to one of my websites that I have an account on? Do I put in the user name and the new pass word that I set up with KeePass? How does the website know that there is a new password? I didn't go and change it on each site.

On 9/23/2022 9:04 AM, soner wrote:
hello, you do not need to pay for password managers. You can use
KeepAssXC which is free, open source and accccessible with which you
could hide your passwords in its encrypted database and save it in
your USB drive or on cloud.

On 9/23/22, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:
Hi Robin,



You like the same things about KeePass on the computer that I do.
I'll add that I got the KeePass for Windows free and KeePass Touch for 99 cents.
This
was a very hard price to beat. And I much prefer to manage all my
KeePass passwords on my computer with a full-sized keyboard and use
the iOS app for pasting passwords when needed.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant,
Robin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers



Alan,

Your steps were very straightforward. I think I've done this before,
but it
felt cleaner this time, for whatever reason. I'm saving your steps. To
your point, I think the browse thing used to open to iCloud by
default and that was throwing me off. This time, it opened to Dropbox immediately.
Interestingly, as I swipe to hear the files in my DropBox list, I am
hearing VO say "in iCloud" just before the date and file size. Not
sure why that is, but the header at the top clearly says Dropbox and
it's the list of files on my DropBox account.



I'm sticking with managing my entries on my laptop. I just couldn't'
figure out how to get a change I made on the database with KeePass
Touch to save to the file on Dropbox. It's like KeePass doesn't fully
support a true synching
option, even though I selected that option when I set up the app. It
would
be nice, but I once overwrote some entries when I saved my iPhone
file back to Dropbox, so I'm a bit gun shy about it.



I do find the Window app very easy to use with JAWS. I like the
simplicity of the interface, use of context menus and old-fashioned menu system.



Robin











From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Alan
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



Hi Robin,



I also use KeePass on my Windows 10 computer and KeePass Touch on my
iPhone
13 Mini. Those two are both accessible and enable me to store what I
need without any fuss. I like that when a KeePass Touch entry is open
on my iPhone, I can swipe to the password field and do a single
finger double tap on the screen and the password value is
automatically copied to the clipboard for easy pasting elsewhere. I
always manage my KeePass password entries on my desktop computer
because I find having a full screen keyboard available for input much
easier. I also keep my KeePass database file in a Dropbox folder and
these are the steps I use to update that database file on my iPhone
when I've changed the database on my computer:



1. Open KeePass Touch. If the app prompts you for Face or Touch ID and
opens your database file, place focus on the Files back button in the
upper left corner of the screen and double tap.
2. If you don't automatically open an existing database file, you
should already be on the Files screen.
3. On the bottomline toolbar at the far right is an Add button which
you should double tap.
4. You'll be given options to Create new database or Import. Execute
Import.
5. Two mor options of Browse and Cancel will appear and you should
execute Browse.
6. I think because I upgraded to iOS 16 earlier today, I was taken
directly to iCloud drive which I did not want so I executed the More
button from the top line menu.
7. I then swiped to Dropbox and double tapped.
8. I then swiped to the applicable KeePass database file and double
tapped on it causing it to load and for KeePass Touch via Voiceover
to provide the most recently date of update. Touch or Face ID should
have granted access provided you have them set up here.



I believe those steps were fewer by two or three steps the last time
I did this but as I said, I updated to iOS 16 earlier today and I
expect that caused the steps to be a bit different.



I'm not totally up-to-date on the latest news but I'm pretty sure I
heard something in the past few days about LastPass being hacked. You
might let your employers know about that.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Van
Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone. It's very
accessible with a simple interface, although I'm sure I'm not using
it to the fullest. My only annoyance, and this is likely my
ignorance, is that I'm storing the shared file on DropBox and it
doesn't' seem like my iPhone opens the newest version of that file
on my phone. It might work better if I was storin the file on
iTunes, but I just haven't gotten there or spent the time to research
it. Because of this, I only update the database on my Windows laptop
and just pull the new file to my phone. I just don't have the synching sorted out in my head.



But I like that it is free and a really simple interface. I haven't tried
any other apps. My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore
that, but it's low on the list of things to conquer.



Robin





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Drew
Hunthausen
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 10:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: password managers



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Hi list,

Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also
have an Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used "dashlane" before? Thanks for any info.



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moderated Re: password managers

 

And after you've arrowed down to the KeePass entry as described by Robin, you can also do a ctrl + c which will copy the password entry without first having to open a context menu. Alternatively, you can arrow down to the entry and do a ctrl + b to copy your username. These two shortcut commands are built into KeePass.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 5:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers

Marty,
There are some sites for which I let Microsoft Edge retain my password for auto entry -- sites that are not really a risk if someone got into them. Even still, I keep track of the passwords in KeePass, should I ever need to access the site from another device or just have a list of my passwords. For most sites, I do the same process as Alan described, going to KeePass and copying the password then pasting it into the password field on the website. Note that the quick way to do this is to find the entry, and hit the application key on it and arrow down once to the copy password option.



-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 1:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers

I have downloaded and installed KeePass. I set up a new database and choose a password. Now, what happens when I go to one of my websites that I have an account on? Do I put in the user name and the new pass word that I set up with KeePass? How does the website know that there is a new password? I didn't go and change it on each site.

On 9/23/2022 9:04 AM, soner wrote:
hello, you do not need to pay for password managers. You can use
KeepAssXC which is free, open source and accccessible with which you
could hide your passwords in its encrypted database and save it in
your USB drive or on cloud.

On 9/23/22, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:
Hi Robin,



You like the same things about KeePass on the computer that I do.
I'll add that I got the KeePass for Windows free and KeePass Touch for 99 cents.
This
was a very hard price to beat. And I much prefer to manage all my
KeePass passwords on my computer with a full-sized keyboard and use
the iOS app for pasting passwords when needed.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant,
Robin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers



Alan,

Your steps were very straightforward. I think I've done this before,
but it
felt cleaner this time, for whatever reason. I'm saving your steps. To
your point, I think the browse thing used to open to iCloud by
default and that was throwing me off. This time, it opened to Dropbox immediately.
Interestingly, as I swipe to hear the files in my DropBox list, I am
hearing VO say "in iCloud" just before the date and file size. Not
sure why that is, but the header at the top clearly says Dropbox and
it's the list of files on my DropBox account.



I'm sticking with managing my entries on my laptop. I just couldn't'
figure out how to get a change I made on the database with KeePass
Touch to save to the file on Dropbox. It's like KeePass doesn't fully
support a true synching
option, even though I selected that option when I set up the app. It
would
be nice, but I once overwrote some entries when I saved my iPhone
file back to Dropbox, so I'm a bit gun shy about it.



I do find the Window app very easy to use with JAWS. I like the
simplicity of the interface, use of context menus and old-fashioned menu system.



Robin











From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Alan
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



Hi Robin,



I also use KeePass on my Windows 10 computer and KeePass Touch on my
iPhone
13 Mini. Those two are both accessible and enable me to store what I
need without any fuss. I like that when a KeePass Touch entry is open
on my iPhone, I can swipe to the password field and do a single
finger double tap on the screen and the password value is
automatically copied to the clipboard for easy pasting elsewhere. I
always manage my KeePass password entries on my desktop computer
because I find having a full screen keyboard available for input much
easier. I also keep my KeePass database file in a Dropbox folder and
these are the steps I use to update that database file on my iPhone
when I've changed the database on my computer:



1. Open KeePass Touch. If the app prompts you for Face or Touch ID and
opens your database file, place focus on the Files back button in the
upper left corner of the screen and double tap.
2. If you don't automatically open an existing database file, you
should already be on the Files screen.
3. On the bottomline toolbar at the far right is an Add button which
you should double tap.
4. You'll be given options to Create new database or Import. Execute
Import.
5. Two mor options of Browse and Cancel will appear and you should
execute Browse.
6. I think because I upgraded to iOS 16 earlier today, I was taken
directly to iCloud drive which I did not want so I executed the More
button from the top line menu.
7. I then swiped to Dropbox and double tapped.
8. I then swiped to the applicable KeePass database file and double
tapped on it causing it to load and for KeePass Touch via Voiceover
to provide the most recently date of update. Touch or Face ID should
have granted access provided you have them set up here.



I believe those steps were fewer by two or three steps the last time
I did this but as I said, I updated to iOS 16 earlier today and I
expect that caused the steps to be a bit different.



I'm not totally up-to-date on the latest news but I'm pretty sure I
heard something in the past few days about LastPass being hacked. You
might let your employers know about that.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Van
Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone. It's very
accessible with a simple interface, although I'm sure I'm not using
it to the fullest. My only annoyance, and this is likely my
ignorance, is that I'm storing the shared file on DropBox and it
doesn't' seem like my iPhone opens the newest version of that file
on my phone. It might work better if I was storin the file on
iTunes, but I just haven't gotten there or spent the time to research
it. Because of this, I only update the database on my Windows laptop
and just pull the new file to my phone. I just don't have the synching sorted out in my head.



But I like that it is free and a really simple interface. I haven't tried
any other apps. My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore
that, but it's low on the list of things to conquer.



Robin





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Drew
Hunthausen
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 10:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: password managers



WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think
before clicking links or opening attachments.



Hi list,

Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also
have an Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used "dashlane" before? Thanks for any info.



KeyCorp Public

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unapproved messaging applications for business purposes.

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information.
It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No
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moderated Re: password managers

Van Lant, Robin
 

Marty,
There are some sites for which I let Microsoft Edge retain my password for auto entry -- sites that are not really a risk if someone got into them. Even still, I keep track of the passwords in KeePass, should I ever need to access the site from another device or just have a list of my passwords. For most sites, I do the same process as Alan described, going to KeePass and copying the password then pasting it into the password field on the website. Note that the quick way to do this is to find the entry, and hit the application key on it and arrow down once to the copy password option.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 1:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers

I have downloaded and installed KeePass.  I set up a new database and choose a password.  Now, what happens when I go to one of my websites that I have an account on?  Do I put in the user name and the new pass word that I set up with KeePass?  How does the website know that there is a new password?  I didn't go and change it on each site.

On 9/23/2022 9:04 AM, soner wrote:
hello, you do not need to pay for password managers. You can use
KeepAssXC which is free, open source and accccessible with which you
could hide your passwords in its encrypted database and save it in
your USB drive or on cloud.

On 9/23/22, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:
Hi Robin,



You like the same things about KeePass on the computer that I do.
I'll add that I got the KeePass for Windows free and KeePass Touch for 99 cents.
This
was a very hard price to beat. And I much prefer to manage all my
KeePass passwords on my computer with a full-sized keyboard and use
the iOS app for pasting passwords when needed.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant,
Robin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers



Alan,

Your steps were very straightforward. I think I've done this before,
but it
felt cleaner this time, for whatever reason. I'm saving your steps. To
your point, I think the browse thing used to open to iCloud by
default and that was throwing me off. This time, it opened to Dropbox immediately.
Interestingly, as I swipe to hear the files in my DropBox list, I am
hearing VO say "in iCloud" just before the date and file size. Not
sure why that is, but the header at the top clearly says Dropbox and
it's the list of files on my DropBox account.



I'm sticking with managing my entries on my laptop. I just couldn't'
figure out how to get a change I made on the database with KeePass
Touch to save to the file on Dropbox. It's like KeePass doesn't fully
support a true synching
option, even though I selected that option when I set up the app. It
would
be nice, but I once overwrote some entries when I saved my iPhone
file back to Dropbox, so I'm a bit gun shy about it.



I do find the Window app very easy to use with JAWS. I like the
simplicity of the interface, use of context menus and old-fashioned menu system.



Robin











From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Alan
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



Hi Robin,



I also use KeePass on my Windows 10 computer and KeePass Touch on my
iPhone
13 Mini. Those two are both accessible and enable me to store what I
need without any fuss. I like that when a KeePass Touch entry is open
on my iPhone, I can swipe to the password field and do a single
finger double tap on the screen and the password value is
automatically copied to the clipboard for easy pasting elsewhere. I
always manage my KeePass password entries on my desktop computer
because I find having a full screen keyboard available for input much
easier. I also keep my KeePass database file in a Dropbox folder and
these are the steps I use to update that database file on my iPhone
when I've changed the database on my computer:



1. Open KeePass Touch. If the app prompts you for Face or Touch ID and
opens your database file, place focus on the Files back button in the
upper left corner of the screen and double tap.
2. If you don't automatically open an existing database file, you
should already be on the Files screen.
3. On the bottomline toolbar at the far right is an Add button which
you should double tap.
4. You'll be given options to Create new database or Import. Execute
Import.
5. Two mor options of Browse and Cancel will appear and you should
execute Browse.
6. I think because I upgraded to iOS 16 earlier today, I was taken
directly to iCloud drive which I did not want so I executed the More
button from the top line menu.
7. I then swiped to Dropbox and double tapped.
8. I then swiped to the applicable KeePass database file and double
tapped on it causing it to load and for KeePass Touch via Voiceover
to provide the most recently date of update. Touch or Face ID should
have granted access provided you have them set up here.



I believe those steps were fewer by two or three steps the last time
I did this but as I said, I updated to iOS 16 earlier today and I
expect that caused the steps to be a bit different.



I'm not totally up-to-date on the latest news but I'm pretty sure I
heard something in the past few days about LastPass being hacked. You
might let your employers know about that.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Van
Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone. It's very
accessible with a simple interface, although I'm sure I'm not using
it to the fullest. My only annoyance, and this is likely my
ignorance, is that I'm storing the shared file on DropBox and it
doesn't' seem like my iPhone opens the newest version of that file
on my phone. It might work better if I was storin the file on
iTunes, but I just haven't gotten there or spent the time to research
it. Because of this, I only update the database on my Windows laptop
and just pull the new file to my phone. I just don't have the synching sorted out in my head.



But I like that it is free and a really simple interface. I haven't tried
any other apps. My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore
that, but it's low on the list of things to conquer.



Robin





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Drew
Hunthausen
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 10:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: password managers



WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think
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Hi list,

Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also
have an Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used "dashlane" before? Thanks for any info.



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moderated Re: password managers

 

Hi Marty,

What I would do in your described scenario is to go to the website, open KeePass with the custom shortcut I've created, look up the appropriate entry in my KeePass database, and then do a ctrl + b to copy the username followed by a ctrl + c to copy the password which I would pasted in the appropriate places on the website. I'm not a fan of automatic entry of anything so I much prefer to do the copying and pasting steps manually.

Alan Lemly

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marty Hutchings
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 2:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers

I have downloaded and installed KeePass. I set up a new database and choose a password. Now, what happens when I go to one of my websites that I have an account on? Do I put in the user name and the new pass word that I set up with KeePass? How does the website know that there is a new password? I didn't go and change it on each site.

On 9/23/2022 9:04 AM, soner wrote:
hello, you do not need to pay for password managers. You can use
KeepAssXC which is free, open source and accccessible with which you
could hide your passwords in its encrypted database and save it in
your USB drive or on cloud.

On 9/23/22, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:
Hi Robin,



You like the same things about KeePass on the computer that I do.
I'll add that I got the KeePass for Windows free and KeePass Touch for 99 cents.
This
was a very hard price to beat. And I much prefer to manage all my
KeePass passwords on my computer with a full-sized keyboard and use
the iOS app for pasting passwords when needed.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant,
Robin via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers



Alan,

Your steps were very straightforward. I think I've done this before,
but it
felt cleaner this time, for whatever reason. I'm saving your steps. To
your point, I think the browse thing used to open to iCloud by
default and that was throwing me off. This time, it opened to Dropbox immediately.
Interestingly, as I swipe to hear the files in my DropBox list, I am
hearing VO say "in iCloud" just before the date and file size. Not
sure why that is, but the header at the top clearly says Dropbox and
it's the list of files on my DropBox account.



I'm sticking with managing my entries on my laptop. I just couldn't'
figure out how to get a change I made on the database with KeePass
Touch to save to the file on Dropbox. It's like KeePass doesn't fully
support a true synching
option, even though I selected that option when I set up the app. It
would
be nice, but I once overwrote some entries when I saved my iPhone
file back to Dropbox, so I'm a bit gun shy about it.



I do find the Window app very easy to use with JAWS. I like the
simplicity of the interface, use of context menus and old-fashioned menu system.



Robin











From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Alan
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



Hi Robin,



I also use KeePass on my Windows 10 computer and KeePass Touch on my
iPhone
13 Mini. Those two are both accessible and enable me to store what I
need without any fuss. I like that when a KeePass Touch entry is open
on my iPhone, I can swipe to the password field and do a single
finger double tap on the screen and the password value is
automatically copied to the clipboard for easy pasting elsewhere. I
always manage my KeePass password entries on my desktop computer
because I find having a full screen keyboard available for input much
easier. I also keep my KeePass database file in a Dropbox folder and
these are the steps I use to update that database file on my iPhone
when I've changed the database on my computer:



1. Open KeePass Touch. If the app prompts you for Face or Touch ID and
opens your database file, place focus on the Files back button in the
upper left corner of the screen and double tap.
2. If you don't automatically open an existing database file, you
should already be on the Files screen.
3. On the bottomline toolbar at the far right is an Add button which
you should double tap.
4. You'll be given options to Create new database or Import. Execute
Import.
5. Two mor options of Browse and Cancel will appear and you should
execute Browse.
6. I think because I upgraded to iOS 16 earlier today, I was taken
directly to iCloud drive which I did not want so I executed the More
button from the top line menu.
7. I then swiped to Dropbox and double tapped.
8. I then swiped to the applicable KeePass database file and double
tapped on it causing it to load and for KeePass Touch via Voiceover
to provide the most recently date of update. Touch or Face ID should
have granted access provided you have them set up here.



I believe those steps were fewer by two or three steps the last time
I did this but as I said, I updated to iOS 16 earlier today and I
expect that caused the steps to be a bit different.



I'm not totally up-to-date on the latest news but I'm pretty sure I
heard something in the past few days about LastPass being hacked. You
might let your employers know about that.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Van
Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone. It's very
accessible with a simple interface, although I'm sure I'm not using
it to the fullest. My only annoyance, and this is likely my
ignorance, is that I'm storing the shared file on DropBox and it
doesn't' seem like my iPhone opens the newest version of that file
on my phone. It might work better if I was storin the file on
iTunes, but I just haven't gotten there or spent the time to research
it. Because of this, I only update the database on my Windows laptop
and just pull the new file to my phone. I just don't have the synching sorted out in my head.



But I like that it is free and a really simple interface. I haven't tried
any other apps. My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore
that, but it's low on the list of things to conquer.



Robin





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Drew
Hunthausen
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 10:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: password managers



WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think
before clicking links or opening attachments.



Hi list,

Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also
have an Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used "dashlane" before? Thanks for any info.



KeyCorp Public

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unapproved messaging applications for business purposes.

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moderated Re: password managers

Marty Hutchings
 

I have downloaded and installed KeePass.  I set up a new database and choose a password.  Now, what happens when I go to one of my websites that I have an account on?  Do I put in the user name and the new pass word that I set up with KeePass?  How does the website know that there is a new password?  I didn't go and change it on each site.

On 9/23/2022 9:04 AM, soner wrote:
hello, you do not need to pay for password managers. You can use
KeepAssXC which is free, open source and accccessible with which you
could hide your passwords in its encrypted database and save it in
your USB drive or on cloud.

On 9/23/22, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:
Hi Robin,



You like the same things about KeePass on the computer that I do. I'll add
that I got the KeePass for Windows free and KeePass Touch for 99 cents.
This
was a very hard price to beat. And I much prefer to manage all my KeePass
passwords on my computer with a full-sized keyboard and use the iOS app for
pasting passwords when needed.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin
via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers



Alan,

Your steps were very straightforward. I think I've done this before, but
it
felt cleaner this time, for whatever reason. I'm saving your steps. To
your point, I think the browse thing used to open to iCloud by default and
that was throwing me off. This time, it opened to Dropbox immediately.
Interestingly, as I swipe to hear the files in my DropBox list, I am
hearing
VO say "in iCloud" just before the date and file size. Not sure why that
is, but the header at the top clearly says Dropbox and it's the list of
files on my DropBox account.



I'm sticking with managing my entries on my laptop. I just couldn't' figure
out how to get a change I made on the database with KeePass Touch to save
to
the file on Dropbox. It's like KeePass doesn't fully support a true
synching
option, even though I selected that option when I set up the app. It
would
be nice, but I once overwrote some entries when I saved my iPhone file
back
to Dropbox, so I'm a bit gun shy about it.



I do find the Window app very easy to use with JAWS. I like the simplicity
of the interface, use of context menus and old-fashioned menu system.



Robin











From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



Hi Robin,



I also use KeePass on my Windows 10 computer and KeePass Touch on my iPhone
13 Mini. Those two are both accessible and enable me to store what I need
without any fuss. I like that when a KeePass Touch entry is open on my
iPhone, I can swipe to the password field and do a single finger double tap
on the screen and the password value is automatically copied to the
clipboard for easy pasting elsewhere. I always manage my KeePass password
entries on my desktop computer because I find having a full screen keyboard
available for input much easier. I also keep my KeePass database file in a
Dropbox folder and these are the steps I use to update that database file
on
my iPhone when I've changed the database on my computer:



1. Open KeePass Touch. If the app prompts you for Face or Touch ID and
opens your database file, place focus on the Files back button in the upper
left corner of the screen and double tap.
2. If you don't automatically open an existing database file, you
should already be on the Files screen.
3. On the bottomline toolbar at the far right is an Add button which
you should double tap.
4. You'll be given options to Create new database or Import. Execute
Import.
5. Two mor options of Browse and Cancel will appear and you should
execute Browse.
6. I think because I upgraded to iOS 16 earlier today, I was taken
directly to iCloud drive which I did not want so I executed the More button
from the top line menu.
7. I then swiped to Dropbox and double tapped.
8. I then swiped to the applicable KeePass database file and double
tapped on it causing it to load and for KeePass Touch via Voiceover to
provide the most recently date of update. Touch or Face ID should have
granted access provided you have them set up here.



I believe those steps were fewer by two or three steps the last time I did
this but as I said, I updated to iOS 16 earlier today and I expect that
caused the steps to be a bit different.



I'm not totally up-to-date on the latest news but I'm pretty sure I heard
something in the past few days about LastPass being hacked. You might let
your employers know about that.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone. It's very
accessible with a simple interface, although I'm sure I'm not using it to
the fullest. My only annoyance, and this is likely my ignorance, is that
I'm storing the shared file on DropBox and it doesn't' seem like my iPhone
opens the newest version of that file on my phone. It might work better if
I was storin the file on iTunes, but I just haven't gotten there or spent
the time to research it. Because of this, I only update the database on my
Windows laptop and just pull the new file to my phone. I just don't have
the synching sorted out in my head.



But I like that it is free and a really simple interface. I haven't tried
any other apps. My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore
that, but it's low on the list of things to conquer.



Robin





From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Drew Hunthausen
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 10:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io <mailto:jfw@groups.io>
Subject: password managers



WARNING: This email originated externally. Exercise caution. Think before
clicking links or opening attachments.



Hi list,

Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also have an
Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used "dashlane" before? Thanks for any info.



KeyCorp Public

KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. prohibits the use of texts or other unapproved
messaging applications for business purposes.

This communication may contain privileged and/or confidential information.
It is intended solely for the use of the addressee. No confidentiality or
privilege is waived or lost as a result of any transmission errors. If you
are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from
disclosing,
copying, distributing or using any of this information. If you have
received
this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and
destroy the material in its entirety, whether electronic or hard copy.

This communication is for informational purposes only, is not an offer,
solicitation, recommendation or commitment for any transaction or to buy or
sell any security or other financial product, and is not intended as
investment advice or as a confirmation of any transaction. Any market
price,
indicative value, estimate, view, opinion, data or other information herein
is not warranted as to completeness or accuracy, is subject to change
without notice, and KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. accepts no liability for
its use or to update or keep it current. Any views or opinions are those of
the individual sender, not necessarily of KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc.

The sender of this communication is a licensed securities representative
employed by or associated with KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Member
FINRA/SIPC and may also represent KeyBank National Association ("KeyBank
N.A."). Securities products and services are offered by KeyBanc Capital
Markets Inc. Banking products and services are offered by KeyBank N.A.

127 Public Square, Cleveland, OH 44114

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moderated Re: knowing the number of messages in my inbox

Madison Martin
 

Okay, unfortunately that didn’t work as my fingers are too short

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curtis Chong
Sent: September 23, 2022 2:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: knowing the number of messages in my inbox

 

Hello:

 

I use the JAWS command JAWS Key plus number pad 3. If using the laptop layout, it is JAWS key plus shift plus n. Try that and see how well that works.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: knowing the number of messages in my inbox

 

Hi all,

If this is an Outlook thing and not something that can be fixed within Jaws then please just tell me and I’ll ask elsewhere.

Sometimes when I’m going through my inbox after Jaws has said all of the info about the message it will say something like “1 of 400,” but it doesn’t always say this; is there any way to get this to always be said? When I’m going through messages sometimes it’s nice to know how many messages are in my inbox. Using the latest version of Jaws 2022 and Microsoft 365. Thanks

Madison

 


moderated Re: knowing the number of messages in my inbox

Curtis Chong
 

Hello:

 

I use the JAWS command JAWS Key plus number pad 3. If using the laptop layout, it is JAWS key plus shift plus n. Try that and see how well that works.

 

Cordially,

 

Curtis Chong

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 1:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: knowing the number of messages in my inbox

 

Hi all,

If this is an Outlook thing and not something that can be fixed within Jaws then please just tell me and I’ll ask elsewhere.

Sometimes when I’m going through my inbox after Jaws has said all of the info about the message it will say something like “1 of 400,” but it doesn’t always say this; is there any way to get this to always be said? When I’m going through messages sometimes it’s nice to know how many messages are in my inbox. Using the latest version of Jaws 2022 and Microsoft 365. Thanks

Madison

 


moderated Re: knowing the number of messages in my inbox

Lori Lynn
 

Madison,

 

I press Insert and the 5 on my Numpad. JAWS reads who the message is from, the subject and size of the message, and finally what number of how many in the mailbox I’m in. For example 2 of 10.

 

Lori Lynn

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 2:02 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: knowing the number of messages in my inbox

 

Hi all,

If this is an Outlook thing and not something that can be fixed within Jaws then please just tell me and I’ll ask elsewhere.

Sometimes when I’m going through my inbox after Jaws has said all of the info about the message it will say something like “1 of 400,” but it doesn’t always say this; is there any way to get this to always be said? When I’m going through messages sometimes it’s nice to know how many messages are in my inbox. Using the latest version of Jaws 2022 and Microsoft 365. Thanks

Madison

 


moderated knowing the number of messages in my inbox

Madison Martin
 

Hi all,

If this is an Outlook thing and not something that can be fixed within Jaws then please just tell me and I’ll ask elsewhere.

Sometimes when I’m going through my inbox after Jaws has said all of the info about the message it will say something like “1 of 400,” but it doesn’t always say this; is there any way to get this to always be said? When I’m going through messages sometimes it’s nice to know how many messages are in my inbox. Using the latest version of Jaws 2022 and Microsoft 365. Thanks

Madison

 


moderated Re: moving jaws settings to another computer

TJ McElroy gMail
 

Hi Steve,

What doesnt the JAWS Migrate Settings  get, that makes you not like it?

Thanks,

TJ


On 9/23/2022 9:36 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:

I don’t like the JAWS Migrate Settings thing because it doesn’t get everything.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ashleigh Piccinino
Sent: 23 September 2022 14:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: moving jaws settings to another computer

 

Have you tried? , quote migrate settings. Question quote. You might be able to export them somehow, importing them into your new laptop.

Get Outlook for iOS


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> on behalf of Don H <lmddh50@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 8:41:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: moving jaws settings to another computer

 

I am currently running the latest version of Jaws on a Win 10 laptop.
Next week I will be getting a new laptop with Windows 11.  Is there a
easy way to move the Jaws settings to this new laptop?
Thanks






moderated Re: password managers

soner
 

hello, you do not need to pay for password managers. You can use
KeepAssXC which is free, open source and accccessible with which you
could hide your passwords in its encrypted database and save it in
your USB drive or on cloud.

On 9/23/22, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:
Hi Robin,



You like the same things about KeePass on the computer that I do. I'll add
that I got the KeePass for Windows free and KeePass Touch for 99 cents.
This
was a very hard price to beat. And I much prefer to manage all my KeePass
passwords on my computer with a full-sized keyboard and use the iOS app for
pasting passwords when needed.



Alan Lemly



From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin
via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 11:00 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers



Alan,

Your steps were very straightforward. I think I've done this before, but
it
felt cleaner this time, for whatever reason. I'm saving your steps. To
your point, I think the browse thing used to open to iCloud by default and
that was throwing me off. This time, it opened to Dropbox immediately.
Interestingly, as I swipe to hear the files in my DropBox list, I am
hearing
VO say "in iCloud" just before the date and file size. Not sure why that
is, but the header at the top clearly says Dropbox and it's the list of
files on my DropBox account.



I'm sticking with managing my entries on my laptop. I just couldn't' figure
out how to get a change I made on the database with KeePass Touch to save
to
the file on Dropbox. It's like KeePass doesn't fully support a true
synching
option, even though I selected that option when I set up the app. It
would
be nice, but I once overwrote some entries when I saved my iPhone file
back
to Dropbox, so I'm a bit gun shy about it.



I do find the Window app very easy to use with JAWS. I like the simplicity
of the interface, use of context menus and old-fashioned menu system.



Robin











From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: password managers



Hi Robin,



I also use KeePass on my Windows 10 computer and KeePass Touch on my iPhone
13 Mini. Those two are both accessible and enable me to store what I need
without any fuss. I like that when a KeePass Touch entry is open on my
iPhone, I can swipe to the password field and do a single finger double tap
on the screen and the password value is automatically copied to the
clipboard for easy pasting elsewhere. I always manage my KeePass password
entries on my desktop computer because I find having a full screen keyboard
available for input much easier. I also keep my KeePass database file in a
Dropbox folder and these are the steps I use to update that database file
on
my iPhone when I've changed the database on my computer:



1. Open KeePass Touch. If the app prompts you for Face or Touch ID and
opens your database file, place focus on the Files back button in the upper
left corner of the screen and double tap.
2. If you don't automatically open an existing database file, you
should already be on the Files screen.
3. On the bottomline toolbar at the far right is an Add button which
you should double tap.
4. You'll be given options to Create new database or Import. Execute
Import.
5. Two mor options of Browse and Cancel will appear and you should
execute Browse.
6. I think because I upgraded to iOS 16 earlier today, I was taken
directly to iCloud drive which I did not want so I executed the More button
from the top line menu.
7. I then swiped to Dropbox and double tapped.
8. I then swiped to the applicable KeePass database file and double
tapped on it causing it to load and for KeePass Touch via Voiceover to
provide the most recently date of update. Touch or Face ID should have
granted access provided you have them set up here.



I believe those steps were fewer by two or three steps the last time I did
this but as I said, I updated to iOS 16 earlier today and I expect that
caused the steps to be a bit different.



I'm not totally up-to-date on the latest news but I'm pretty sure I heard
something in the past few days about LastPass being hacked. You might let
your employers know about that.



Alan Lemly



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I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone. It's very
accessible with a simple interface, although I'm sure I'm not using it to
the fullest. My only annoyance, and this is likely my ignorance, is that
I'm storing the shared file on DropBox and it doesn't' seem like my iPhone
opens the newest version of that file on my phone. It might work better if
I was storin the file on iTunes, but I just haven't gotten there or spent
the time to research it. Because of this, I only update the database on my
Windows laptop and just pull the new file to my phone. I just don't have
the synching sorted out in my head.



But I like that it is free and a really simple interface. I haven't tried
any other apps. My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore
that, but it's low on the list of things to conquer.



Robin





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moderated Re: moving jaws settings to another computer

Steve Nutt
 

I don’t like the JAWS Migrate Settings thing because it doesn’t get everything.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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Sent: 23 September 2022 14:31
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: moving jaws settings to another computer

 

Have you tried? , quote migrate settings. Question quote. You might be able to export them somehow, importing them into your new laptop.

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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 8:41:48 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: moving jaws settings to another computer

 

I am currently running the latest version of Jaws on a Win 10 laptop.
Next week I will be getting a new laptop with Windows 11.  Is there a
easy way to move the Jaws settings to this new laptop?
Thanks





moderated Re: JAWS upgrade

Ashleigh Piccinino
 

Plus, the beta is out. For better one period, you might want to wait until that is finished. It's the public beta for Jaws 2023.

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Subject: Re: JAWS upgrade
 

They had the sail in the UK from Sight and Sound all through July but it’s finished now anyway.

 

 

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Sent: 22 September 2022 01:43
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS upgrade

 

Husna, Remember Non U S citizen’s could not have taken advantage of the sale, from what I believe. Even if they could the exchange rate would not be worth their while.   

 

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Sent: September 21, 2022 10:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS upgrade

 

Ah, Your friend should have got it in the summer sail, would have been much cheaper, too late now and I suppose he can’t wait until next summer, that’s nearly a whole year away.

 

Husna

 

 

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Sent: 21 September 2022 02:16
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Subject: Re: JAWS upgrade

 

Hello there:

 

Tell your friend to wait for the official release date of JAWS Version 2023. Vispero generally offer a discount price to upgrade. This may or, may not benefit your friend. your friend will need to pay an upgrade fee from JAWS 2019 to 2023, then your friend will need to pay for the SMA.

 

Dave

 

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Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 11:38 PM

Subject: JAWS upgrade

 

Hi,

 

This is a brain freeze or senior moment question. Currently, my friend is at JAWS2019, he wants to upgrade, does he have to payoff the 2020 thru 2022 to eventually get an SMA at 22 with 23 and 24 waiting in the wings

 

Thx,

 

 

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