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moderated Re: Did TeamViewer change?

Van Lant, Robin
 

Thanks, Milton.  I also updated my Windows Quick Assist, as I think that may be an option.  I’ll go look at the AIRA website.  Thanks for validating that it’s not just me being inept with Team Viewer.

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Milton Ota
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 1:08 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Did TeamViewer change?

 

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Yes, Team View has some new problems and it is not working even with scripts that were created by Brian Hartgen. If calling Aira Agent it is best to use the desktop application on the web from Aira. I found it very easy to use and if you don’t have an account you can still use it for the free 5-minute call.

 

 

Milton Ota

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moderated Re: Did TeamViewer change?

Milton Ota
 

Yes, Team View has some new problems and it is not working even with scripts that were created by Brian Hartgen. If calling Aira Agent it is best to use the desktop application on the web from Aira. I found it very easy to use and if you don’t have an account you can still use it for the free 5-minute call.

 

 

Milton Ota

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Unit E

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moderated Re: File renamers

Gene Warner
 

The zip file I downloaded from a download site only had the readme.txt file which had a link to the full documentation, but that link is now broken. I downloaded and saved the zip file you sent via drop box, in contained an additional zip file that I assume was written by you, it helped, but it only talked about one part of the program which wasn't a problem because the other two tabs were easy enough to figure out from what was in that text file.

There was no file that had the original documentation, and there was nothing that could help me figure out why the program wouldn't do the actual renaming.

This program seened to be just what I was looking for but the inability to get it to actually work has lead me to give up on it and continue looking for something like it that actually works.

Thanks anyway for your help.
Gene...

On 9/21/2022 5:53 AM, Richard Justice wrote:
Hi Richard!


moderated Re: password managers

Van Lant, Robin
 

Alan,

Your steps were very straightforward.  I think I’ve done this before, but it felt cleaner this time, for whatever reason.  I’m saving your steps.   To your point, I think the browse thing used to open to iCloud by default and that was throwing me off. This time, it opened to Dropbox immediately.   Interestingly, as I swipe to hear the files in my DropBox list, I am hearing VO say “in iCloud”  just before the date and file size.  Not sure why that is, but the header at the top clearly says Dropbox and it’s the list of files on my DropBox account.

 

I’m sticking with managing my entries on my laptop. I just couldn’t’ figure out how to get a change I made on the database with KeePass Touch to save to the file on Dropbox. It’s like KeePass doesn’t fully support a true synching option, even though I selected that option when I set up the app.   It would be nice, but I once  overwrote some entries when I saved my iPhone file back to Dropbox, so I’m a bit gun shy about it. 

 

I do find the Window app very easy to use with JAWS.  I like the simplicity of the interface, use of context menus and old-fashioned menu system.

 

Robin

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:44 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers

 

Hi Robin,

 

I also use KeePass on my Windows 10 computer and KeePass Touch on my iPhone 13 Mini. Those two are both accessible and enable me to store what I need without any fuss. I like that when a KeePass Touch entry is open on my iPhone, I can swipe to the password field and do a single finger double tap on the screen and the password value is automatically copied to the clipboard for easy pasting elsewhere. I always manage my KeePass password  entries on my desktop computer because I find having a full screen keyboard available for input much easier. I also keep my KeePass database file in a Dropbox folder and these are the steps I use to update that database file on my iPhone when I’ve changed the database on my computer:

 

  1. Open KeePass Touch. If the app prompts you for Face or Touch ID and opens your database file, place focus on the Files back button in the upper left corner of the screen and double tap.
  2. If you don’t automatically open an existing database file, you should already be on the Files screen.
  3. On the bottomline toolbar at the far right is an Add button which you should double tap.
  4. You’ll be given options to Create new database or Import. Execute Import.
  5. Two mor options of Browse and Cancel will appear and you should execute Browse.
  6. I think because I upgraded to iOS 16 earlier today, I was taken directly to iCloud drive which I did not want so I executed the More button from the top line menu.
  7. I then swiped to Dropbox and double tapped.
  8. I then swiped to the applicable KeePass database file and double tapped on it causing it to load and for KeePass Touch via Voiceover to provide the most recently date of update. Touch or Face ID should have granted access provided you have them set up here.

 

I believe those steps were fewer by two or three steps the last time I did this but as I said, I updated to iOS 16 earlier today and I expect that caused the steps to be a bit different.

 

I’m not totally up-to-date on the latest news but I’m pretty sure I heard something in the past few days about LastPass being hacked. You might let your employers know about that.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers

 

I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone.   It’s very accessible with a simple interface, although I’m sure I’m not using it to the fullest.  My only annoyance, and this is likely my ignorance, is that I’m storing the shared file on DropBox and it doesn’t’ seem like  my iPhone opens the newest version of that file on my phone.  It might work better if I was storin the file on iTunes, but I just haven’t gotten there or spent the time to research it. Because of this, I only update the database on my Windows laptop and  just pull the new file to my phone. I just don’t have the synching sorted out in my head.

 

But I like that it is free and a really simple interface.  I haven’t tried  any other apps.   My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore that, but it’s low on the list of things to conquer.

 

Robin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Drew Hunthausen
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 10:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: password managers

 

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Hi list,

Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also have an Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used “dashlane” before? Thanks for any info.



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moderated Did TeamViewer change?

Van Lant, Robin
 

I was using Team Viewer to give AIRA access to help with computer tasks.  When I tried to use it the other day, it was asking me to log in.   I couldn’t’ find my old credentials and thought I could just reset my password, but the validation email never came despite several requests. So, I went through the process of creating a new account and it let me, making me wonder what happened to my old login with the same email.   I then used those new credentials to log in to the desktop app and, while I don’t have any special scripts and know the site has it’s accessibility issues, I still don’t recognize the layout as I’m used to seeing it.    I haven’t tried calling AIRA yet to see what they’ve seen with other users.  I was hoping to be prepared for them to be able to see the codes they normally capture to log in.  Just curious if anyone else noticed a dramatic change recently.    Either JAWS isn’t finding the info on the screen or it’s not there. There are several unlabeled buttons.

 

 

 

 

 

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moderated Re: password managers

david Jennette
 

I’ve found it to be accessible but since the new version on the pc is an electron ap, you need to turn off the virtual pc cursor and you should be good.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Phillip Gross
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 12:46 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers

 

I have been using 1Password. Unfortunately, they are having some accessibility issues with the newest version. 

You mentioned wanting something that worked with IOS. If you use a chrome based browser, There is now an extention for Apple Keychain. It came out in May or June. I haven't tried it, but I've read it works well, and I'm considering it.


moderated Re: password managers

david Jennette
 

It’s not free but I’ve found 1password to be accessible. It works with Pc’s as well as I-Os devices. You have to create an account and everything sinks threw that. When you create the account it generates a key so even if someone were to guess the password to the account, they’re not getting in do to not having that key.

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Weiss via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 8:08 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers

 

PW Safe works well and is free for Windows.  The iOS version is very accessible but there is a one time charge for the app.  You can share the database between your iOS device and Windows using dropbox but there is a charge for that feature.  You can also install iCloud for Windows and access the database across both platforms and that option is free.  I have been using PW Safe on my Mac, iPhone and Win 10/11 machines for about 10 years without any issue.  

Stascom is no longer supported and I don’t think they have updated the code in over 2 years.  PW Safe is actively being developed.

HTH,

 

Jim Weiss


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On Sep 21, 2022, at 12:54 AM, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@...> wrote:

 

Hi list,

Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also have an Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used “dashlane” before? Thanks for any info.

 


moderated Re: password managers

Phillip Gross
 

I have been using 1Password. Unfortunately, they are having some accessibility issues with the newest version. 

You mentioned wanting something that worked with IOS. If you use a chrome based browser, There is now an extention for Apple Keychain. It came out in May or June. I haven't tried it, but I've read it works well, and I'm considering it.


moderated Re: JAWS upgrade

David Diamond
 

Husna, Remember Non U S citizen’s could not have taken advantage of the sale, from what I believe. Even if they could the exchange rate would not be worth their while.   

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Husna Begum via groups.io
Sent: September 21, 2022 10:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS upgrade

 

Ah, Your friend should have got it in the summer sail, would have been much cheaper, too late now and I suppose he can’t wait until next summer, that’s nearly a whole year away.

 

Husna

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 21 September 2022 02:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS upgrade

 

Hello there:

 

Tell your friend to wait for the official release date of JAWS Version 2023. Vispero generally offer a discount price to upgrade. This may or, may not benefit your friend. your friend will need to pay an upgrade fee from JAWS 2019 to 2023, then your friend will need to pay for the SMA.

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 11:38 PM

Subject: JAWS upgrade

 

Hi,

 

This is a brain freeze or senior moment question. Currently, my friend is at JAWS2019, he wants to upgrade, does he have to payoff the 2020 thru 2022 to eventually get an SMA at 22 with 23 and 24 waiting in the wings

 

Thx,

 

 


moderated Re: password managers

Joseph Machise
 

hi the password manager that I use just makes the password and clips it to
the clipboard and I save it and put it where I want in the computer and also
use it for my password

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jed Barton" <jedbarton@...>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: password managers


So here's a question, how do these password managers work, never tried
1. So you go to a site that requires a password, how does that work?

On 9/21/22, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
<Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:
I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone. It's very
accessible with a simple interface, although I'm sure I'm not using it to
the fullest. My only annoyance, and this is likely my ignorance, is that
I'm storing the shared file on DropBox and it doesn't' seem like my
iPhone
opens the newest version of that file on my phone. It might work better
if
I was storin the file on iTunes, but I just haven't gotten there or spent
the time to research it. Because of this, I only update the database on my
Windows laptop and just pull the new file to my phone. I just don't have
the synching sorted out in my head.

But I like that it is free and a really simple interface. I haven't tried
any other apps. My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore
that, but it's low on the list of things to conquer.

Robin


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Drew Hunthausen
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 10:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: password managers


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Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also have an
Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used "dashlane" before? Thanks for any
info.



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moderated Re: moving jaws settings to another computer

Mike B.
 

Hi Steve,
 
I've never noticed this before but, in Windows7 this Explore Utilities Folder option is not appear as it does in the same Jaws versions that it does in Windows10.  I always assumed that if J2022, for example, would be the same no matter what Windows OS version it was installed to and capable of running the particular Jaws version.
 
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: moving jaws settings to another computer

Mike, you’re welcome. That’s what helping each other is all about.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 21 September 2022 19:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: moving jaws settings to another computer

 

Hi Steve,

 

Thank you very much for this shorter and much easier way.  I've never gone to the ENU folder this way but, I'll be using your directions now!  Thanks again.

 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 3:12 AM

Subject: Re: moving jaws settings to another computer

 

I have never done that, simply going to Explore Settings in Utilities should get you there.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 21 September 2022 02:46
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: moving jaws settings to another computer

 

Hi Mike,

 

Personally that's what I do, copy and paste tmy ENU folder in another computer but, when I don't know if someone has the skillset to do this it's kind of hard to explain.  To get to the ENU folder you have to explain how to unhide the AppData folder and then access the Roaming folder...

 

I think you know what I mean.

 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike Pietruk

Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 5:46 PM

Subject: Re: moving jaws settings to another computer

 

Mike

I know that this is the official Freedom Scientific approach to do it.
But, I have also heard that this doesn't necessarily bring everything
over.
What about copying the ENU folder and pasting it into the new laptop?
I know that this is the best approach, according to Brian Hartgen, for
restoring settings on the same machine for a given version of Jaws.
Will this work similarily on a machine to machine transfer??





moderated Re: password managers

 

Hi Robin,

 

I also use KeePass on my Windows 10 computer and KeePass Touch on my iPhone 13 Mini. Those two are both accessible and enable me to store what I need without any fuss. I like that when a KeePass Touch entry is open on my iPhone, I can swipe to the password field and do a single finger double tap on the screen and the password value is automatically copied to the clipboard for easy pasting elsewhere. I always manage my KeePass password  entries on my desktop computer because I find having a full screen keyboard available for input much easier. I also keep my KeePass database file in a Dropbox folder and these are the steps I use to update that database file on my iPhone when I’ve changed the database on my computer:

 

  1. Open KeePass Touch. If the app prompts you for Face or Touch ID and opens your database file, place focus on the Files back button in the upper left corner of the screen and double tap.
  2. If you don’t automatically open an existing database file, you should already be on the Files screen.
  3. On the bottomline toolbar at the far right is an Add button which you should double tap.
  4. You’ll be given options to Create new database or Import. Execute Import.
  5. Two mor options of Browse and Cancel will appear and you should execute Browse.
  6. I think because I upgraded to iOS 16 earlier today, I was taken directly to iCloud drive which I did not want so I executed the More button from the top line menu.
  7. I then swiped to Dropbox and double tapped.
  8. I then swiped to the applicable KeePass database file and double tapped on it causing it to load and for KeePass Touch via Voiceover to provide the most recently date of update. Touch or Face ID should have granted access provided you have them set up here.

 

I believe those steps were fewer by two or three steps the last time I did this but as I said, I updated to iOS 16 earlier today and I expect that caused the steps to be a bit different.

 

I’m not totally up-to-date on the latest news but I’m pretty sure I heard something in the past few days about LastPass being hacked. You might let your employers know about that.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers

 

I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone.   It’s very accessible with a simple interface, although I’m sure I’m not using it to the fullest.  My only annoyance, and this is likely my ignorance, is that I’m storing the shared file on DropBox and it doesn’t’ seem like  my iPhone opens the newest version of that file on my phone.  It might work better if I was storin the file on iTunes, but I just haven’t gotten there or spent the time to research it. Because of this, I only update the database on my Windows laptop and  just pull the new file to my phone. I just don’t have the synching sorted out in my head.

 

But I like that it is free and a really simple interface.  I haven’t tried  any other apps.   My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore that, but it’s low on the list of things to conquer.

 

Robin

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Drew Hunthausen
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 10:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: password managers

 

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Hi list,

Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also have an Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used “dashlane” before? Thanks for any info.



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moderated Re: password managers

Van Lant, Robin
 

I suppose there are different ways to use them. Let's just start with the reason you might want one. Even if you only have one device, a password manager allows you to more securely store all your passwords in one place. Yes, you could do this with a password protected Word or Excel doc, which is what I did for years. As I started having more an more logins (the way our digital world is going) and wanted more robust passwords, it became difficult to remember them and I often needed to access sites from different devices, namely my iPhone, but also my work computer. Having a password manager allows me to have one place that I can keep all those credentials that I can then access on my laptop or on my iPhone.

Speaking from the experience with my password manager, I have an app installed on my phone and on my laptop. Each app accesses a file I have saved on DropBox that can only be opened by this password manager application. There is a master password I use to open it -- which my phone let's me enter with my fingerprint. This file could be saved just on a hard drive, if you didn't need to access it from another device, but it's smart to have it backed up regularly or in the cloud. I think some of the password managers that you subscribe to also give you a place to store the file on their servers, versus a general file sharing site like DropBox and OneDrive. Wherever the file is saved, it's only opened by your master password and you are toast if you lose that.

Once in the password manager, you access a list of various login credentials that you have added to this secure file. In mine, each entry has a title username, the password, the URL, and a note section. There are ways I can have the app create a password for me and fields where I can set an expiration date to be prompted to change the password for a given site, but I don’t' use those generally. . I also have my entries grouped by category, but you don’t' have to do that.

On my laptop, if I go to a website that needs credentials, I open the password manager, go to the entry for the site and can either use the context key to copy the password or I can open the entry and physically read and/or copy the password to enter on the site. I suspect there are plug-ins that would allow you to do this more directly from within the browser,, but I havent' played with this yet. I could also go to the password manager and click on the URL on the entry and I think that populates the information for me automatically, but I usually forget to try this route in the moment.

On my phone, I will open an app or site that needs a login. I've started to notice that there is often a button above the keyboard and, if I click that, it will open the password manager for me, allow me to search for the name of the needed entry, and it will pull the information in for me directly. I can also just open the manager with my finger print and go to the entry. Double tapping on the password button allows me to copy the password, then I go paste it where needed.

I was very hesitant to start using one of these, but really appreciate it now, especially because I need the credentials on various devices. For reassurance, my app, and certainly others, do have a way to export your entries, should you need to do that. I was afraid to invest all the time in building a collection of entries if there wasn't a way to easily export them if I decided I didn't like the manager or wanted to switch to a different one. I also like that I can add notes to the entries. For example. I have my credit card information saved in my bank login entry.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 12:59 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: password managers

So here's a question, how do these password managers work, never tried 1. So you go to a site that requires a password, how does that work?

On 9/21/22, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io <Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:
I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone. It's very
accessible with a simple interface, although I'm sure I'm not using it
to the fullest. My only annoyance, and this is likely my ignorance,
is that I'm storing the shared file on DropBox and it doesn't' seem
like my iPhone opens the newest version of that file on my phone. It
might work better if I was storin the file on iTunes, but I just
haven't gotten there or spent the time to research it. Because of
this, I only update the database on my Windows laptop and just pull
the new file to my phone. I just don't have the synching sorted out in my head.

But I like that it is free and a really simple interface. I haven't tried
any other apps. My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore
that, but it's low on the list of things to conquer.

Robin


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Drew
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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 10:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: password managers


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Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also
have an Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used "dashlane" before? Thanks for any info.



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moderated Re: moving jaws settings to another computer

Steve Nutt
 

Mike, you’re welcome. That’s what helping each other is all about.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 21 September 2022 19:21
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: moving jaws settings to another computer

 

Hi Steve,

 

Thank you very much for this shorter and much easier way.  I've never gone to the ENU folder this way but, I'll be using your directions now!  Thanks again.

 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 3:12 AM

Subject: Re: moving jaws settings to another computer

 

I have never done that, simply going to Explore Settings in Utilities should get you there.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: 21 September 2022 02:46
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: moving jaws settings to another computer

 

Hi Mike,

 

Personally that's what I do, copy and paste tmy ENU folder in another computer but, when I don't know if someone has the skillset to do this it's kind of hard to explain.  To get to the ENU folder you have to explain how to unhide the AppData folder and then access the Roaming folder...

 

I think you know what I mean.

 

 

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 5:46 PM

Subject: Re: moving jaws settings to another computer

 

Mike

I know that this is the official Freedom Scientific approach to do it.
But, I have also heard that this doesn't necessarily bring everything
over.
What about copying the ENU folder and pasting it into the new laptop?
I know that this is the best approach, according to Brian Hartgen, for
restoring settings on the same machine for a given version of Jaws.
Will this work similarily on a machine to machine transfer??





moderated Re: Do You Adjust this Setting with JAWS or with Outlook?

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

You don’t have to hit space on Mail, just start tabbing.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
Sent: 21 September 2022 16:38
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Do You Adjust this Setting with JAWS or with Outlook?

 

I think you are looking to adjust a couple settings in Outlook.  If  you go to the Mail options, there are a couple settings you can turn off that should help.  There may be additional ones, but start with these.

Use Alt F, then T to open  the Options dialog. Arrow down once to “Mail and hit space to open that set of options.  Tab to the following settings and uncheck them:

Show an envelope icon in the taskbar check box‑ not checked‑
Display a Desktop Alert check box‑ not checked‑

 

Robin

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 6:47 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Do You Adjust this Setting with JAWS or with Outlook?

 

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Try the key command, Windows a. Look through your announcements, and turn off the ones for outlook.

 

On Sep 21, 2022, at 8:36 AM, Rick Miller <rm1263@...> wrote:



All:

 

Last Monday I got a brand new computer installed that has Windows 10 and Microsoft Outlook 2016 version 2208.  The most striking difference between the version of Outlook I have now and the one that was on my old computer which I got back in 2013 when there was still Windows 7 is that even when Outlook is closed JAWS starts speaking either a new calendar notification or the content of a new e-mail message when it arrives.  This is very distracting, especially if I am listening to something online and whatever I am listening to is interrupted by JAWS reading either a new calendar notification or the content of a newly-arrived e-mail message even though Outlook is closed.  Can this problem be corrected either in Outlook or with JAWS?  If so, how?

 

Rick Miller 



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moderated Re: Do You Adjust this Setting with JAWS or with Outlook?

Steve Nutt
 

This is in Outlook.

 

Go into Options by pressing Alt, then F, Then T. Next, arrow down to Mail, then tab to Message Arrival Show an Envelope In The Task Tray and uncheck it.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick Miller
Sent: 21 September 2022 13:37
To: support@...
Cc: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Do You Adjust this Setting with JAWS or with Outlook?

 

All:

 

Last Monday I got a brand new computer installed that has Windows 10 and Microsoft Outlook 2016 version 2208.  The most striking difference between the version of Outlook I have now and the one that was on my old computer which I got back in 2013 when there was still Windows 7 is that even when Outlook is closed JAWS starts speaking either a new calendar notification or the content of a new e-mail message when it arrives.  This is very distracting, especially if I am listening to something online and whatever I am listening to is interrupted by JAWS reading either a new calendar notification or the content of a newly-arrived e-mail message even though Outlook is closed.  Can this problem be corrected either in Outlook or with JAWS?  If so, how?

 

Rick Miller 


moderated Re: password managers

Jim Weiss <jimweiss72@...>
 

It depends on the app. PW Safe had an extension for Safari, that would allow auto fill, that is no longer the case. I just open PW Safe and copy the userid and password and paste it into the fields. Then I allow Edge to save both for future use.
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On Sep 21, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Jed Barton <jedbarton@...> wrote:

So here's a question, how do these password managers work, never tried
1. So you go to a site that requires a password, how does that work?

On 9/21/22, Van Lant, Robin via groups.io
<Robin_Van_Lant@...> wrote:
I am using KeePass on my Windows 10 laptop and on my iPhone. It's very
accessible with a simple interface, although I'm sure I'm not using it to
the fullest. My only annoyance, and this is likely my ignorance, is that
I'm storing the shared file on DropBox and it doesn't' seem like my iPhone
opens the newest version of that file on my phone. It might work better if
I was storin the file on iTunes, but I just haven't gotten there or spent
the time to research it. Because of this, I only update the database on my
Windows laptop and just pull the new file to my phone. I just don't have
the synching sorted out in my head.

But I like that it is free and a really simple interface. I haven't tried
any other apps. My company is now using LastPass and I need to explore
that, but it's low on the list of things to conquer.

Robin


From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Drew Hunthausen
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 10:55 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: password managers


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Hi list,
Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also have an
Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used "dashlane" before? Thanks for any info.



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moderated Re: JAWS upgrade

Husna Begum
 

Ah, Your friend should have got it in the summer sail, would have been much cheaper, too late now and I suppose he can’t wait until next summer, that’s nearly a whole year away.

 

Husna

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 21 September 2022 02:16
To: main@jfw.groups.io; jfw@groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS upgrade

 

Hello there:

 

Tell your friend to wait for the official release date of JAWS Version 2023. Vispero generally offer a discount price to upgrade. This may or, may not benefit your friend. your friend will need to pay an upgrade fee from JAWS 2019 to 2023, then your friend will need to pay for the SMA.

 

Dave

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 11:38 PM

Subject: JAWS upgrade

 

Hi,

 

This is a brain freeze or senior moment question. Currently, my friend is at JAWS2019, he wants to upgrade, does he have to payoff the 2020 thru 2022 to eventually get an SMA at 22 with 23 and 24 waiting in the wings

 

Thx,

 

 


moderated Re: password managers

Jim Weiss <jimweiss72@...>
 

PW Safe works well and is free for Windows.  The iOS version is very accessible but there is a one time charge for the app.  You can share the database between your iOS device and Windows using dropbox but there is a charge for that feature.  You can also install iCloud for Windows and access the database across both platforms and that option is free.  I have been using PW Safe on my Mac, iPhone and Win 10/11 machines for about 10 years without any issue.  
Stascom is no longer supported and I don’t think they have updated the code in over 2 years.  PW Safe is actively being developed.
HTH,

Jim Weiss

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On Sep 21, 2022, at 12:54 AM, Drew Hunthausen <dhunthausen@...> wrote:

Hi list,
Which password managers are the most accessible with Jaws and also have an Accessible IOS app? Has anyone used “dashlane” before? Thanks for any info.


moderated Re: jaws and alt text.

Jim Weiss <jimweiss72@...>
 

Patrick,
Yes, your messages are coming through.
Jim Weiss

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On Sep 21, 2022, at 5:04 AM, Patrick Murphy <murphy.patrick42@...> wrote:

hi folks,

sorry about this, but i am not sure if anyone in the group is getting my messages.
i am using the web interface, so i dont know if i am replying correctly.
even if you dont have an answer for me, can someone just let me know that my messages are getting through?
there is a lot of check boxes and buttons on the web interface, so i dont know if i am doing this right.
i only have my preferences set to "summary".

i am really sorry about this.

my original message is below to mike.

regards and thanks,

patrick

Hi Mike,

yep, tried everything.
got jaws to say shortest attribute, longest attrubite, etc.
what i need is for jaws to say the actual file name that is attached to the graphic element in the generated html.

regards,

patrick

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