moderated Re: The purpose of screen reader instruction:

Gene Warner

The short version is that Alt+F4 is the Windows global close command. Alt+F4 will close whatever the focus happens to be on, if it the Windows desktop, it will shut down Windows.


On 8/8/2022 6:15 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
This deserves some clarification. Yes, alt-F4 can close down a website. More specifically, it closes individual windows. Sometimes the effect is to close a program or app, such as a browser. Sometimes it just closes a document, as is the case with MS Word, although if only one Word document is open, it will also close Word.
What Gene is referring to here is the effect pressing alt-F4 has when focus is on the desktop. In this case, it presents the user with the option to shut down the computer.
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From: <> On Behalf Of meow meow
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: The purpose of screen reader instruction:
I thought alt f4 is to remove the website
From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2022 6:12 AM
To: <>
Subject: Re: The purpose of screen reader instruction:

The easiest way I've found to shutdown Windows is to just do an Alt+F4
from the desktop. You get a dialog that asks what you want Windows to
do and the default is to shut down so just hit Enter.


On 8/8/2022 5:45 AM, Angel wrote:
I apologize for sending that last message without a subject. It
shan’t happen again. Here it is: In case my last message was
ignored, again I apologize for my carelessness.

We forget, computer instructors teaching the blind are mainly
working, not on the behalf of the student; as the blind student is
not the one who pays his salary. Rather, he works for an agency.
Which is employed by either personal employers or federal or state
government agencies. So, instructors are obliged to teach whatever it is those agencies require.
When I received my first computer in 98, I was taught only that which
pertained to the job for which my computer and adaptive software was
purchased; which had nothing at all to do with the internet, for example.
So, I wasn’t taught to use the primitive internet extant. Individual
needs and preferences change and grow over time; along with
individual computer requirements. Which is why, I agree with mister
Warner. Given the limited time allotted for training it would be
difficult to teach, both, what employment requires and what
recreational things the student would like to learn. This is why many of us teach ourselves much of what
it is we prefer in a recreational sense. I have a dual challenge. One
of which limits the use of one of my hands. Two screen readers were
taught by my local agency for the blind, Window-eyes and Jaws. I had
no idea concerning the use of either screen reader. It was left to
the expertise of my instructor to decide for me the screen reader
which would serve my particular needs, and which would best
accommodate my secondary challenge. Because, I was ignorant. I,
however, was given a choice whether or not to have, installed on my
computer, Jaws for dos. I chose not to have that screen reader
installed. I later regretted that decision. I wish it had been made
for me, and I had learned to use that screen reader. I would have
been much wiser, today about the use of command prompts. By the way:
How does one put on the desktop a shortcut for restarting the
computer? Knowing more about command prompts would allow me to
understand how this might be accomplished; without having to ask you
fine people such a question. But, using such a desktop shortcut
might come in handy on occasion. There is always time for us to learn what it is we prefer on our own.

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