moderated Re: Microsoft default OCR engine with JAWS convenient OCR


Mike B.
 


Hi Gene,
 
Here are steps on using Jaws Eloquence for Openbook:
These are steps on how you can turn sleep mode off or make any other changes in the Settings Center for any program installed on your computer without
the particular / target program running.  Below are steps using Openbook & turning off sleep mode as an example.  When you shift + tab into
the application list & find the application you want, you need to tab 1 time
into the Settings Center for that application.  Pressing enter on the
application closes the Settings Center.  So, here is how I accessed the
Openbook Settings Center:
1. While in Outlook Express I pressed Insert key + 6, on the number row
above the main keyboard to open the Outlook Express Settings Center.
2. I invoked the keystroke, shift + tab, to get into the application list.
3. I pressed the letter O, until I had Openbook highlighted.
4. I tabbed 1 time into the Openbook Settings Center.
5. I Typed, sleep, into the search edit field & waited a few seconds for the
list to populate & arrowed down to Sleep Mode ..... miscellaneous, & pressed enter.
6. Now, right here the spacebar needs to be pressed to toggle the options until Jaws reports, sleep mode Disable.
7. Tab to apply, press the spacebar, tab to okay, press the spacebar to save your changes & close.
8. Now start, Openbook, & press, Control + F5 to temporarily ttoggle speech off in Openbook.  The, Control + F5, keystroke is a toggle, so you can invoke
this keystroke to turn speech back on.  With speech off Jaws will now be your screenreading program.  If you want to make your change permanent, you need
to go into Openbook's settings with the keystroke, Alt + G, arrow up / down to, Save the Settings, press enter, tab to the, Okay button, press enter, &
press enter on the, Yes, option of the dialogue that comes up.  If you don't save the settings, your prior Openbook's default settings will be used the
next time you start Openbook, but Jaws will also be enabled.  So, you need to put Jaws back into Sleep Mode by following steps 1 thru 7 from above, but
the following option in step #6, needs to be changed to, Sleep Mode Enabled & Unload the Synthesizer.
 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2022 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: Microsoft default OCR engine with JAWS convenient OCR

The one thing I'd like to see FS do is to allow OB to use JAWS instead
of its own TTS voice, it's annoying to have to adjust two voices when it
could all be done with JAWS.

Gene...


On 7/5/2022 2:53 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
> I have found that OB does a better job than the convenient OCR.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
> To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2022 1:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Microsoft default OCR engine with JAWS convenient OCR
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> I don't know as I usually don't have time or inclination to fool around
> with it. I usually just use Open Book for all my OCR work, it uses the
> Abby Fine Reader engine and of the three engines, it consistently gets
> the best results.
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> Gene...
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> On 7/5/2022 2:27 PM, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
>> Curious,
>> I wonder if simply the act of switching straightens out the OCR process.
>> So if someone has poor results, you could try switching to Microsoft's
>> engine, but don't use it, and switch back to FS's engine, and see if it
>> works better.
>> Or scan with Microsoft's, and then go back to the FS engine and see if it
>> starts working right on the same file.
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>> Glenn
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gene Warner" <genewarner3@...>
>> To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2022 1:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: Microsoft default OCR engine with JAWS convenient OCR
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>> Maybe so, but I've gotten pure garbage from the JAWS default engine but
>> got decent results from the same document from the Microsoft engine.
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>> And then again I've also gotten garbage from Microsoft's engine and got
>> good results from the default engine.
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>> So I prefer to think that it depends on what you are scanning.
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>> Gene...
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>> On 7/5/2022 1:56 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
>>> Jaws is using omnipage, likely a lot better than anything MS includes
>>> for free.
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>>> On 7/5/2022 12:07, Loy wrote:
>>>> There is an option in JAWS to use Microsoft's default OCR engine with
>>>> JAWS convenient OCR. Is it a better OCR engine than the one that
>>>> comes with JAWS?
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