moderated Re: Is "Eloq.sbl" Still Applicable?

Annabelle Susan Morison

I wonder, what's the difference between "Eloq.sbl", "Eloqmain.dct", and "Eloquence.vpf"?

On 07/01/2022 7:56 AM Hareth <hareth4m@...> wrote:

Hi Annabelle,
My name is a mid eastern one I don't think its another version.
you don't need to work on the file in its default directory. make a
copy for that purpose to other place then make your changes, then take
it back and replace it. also make a backup copy for the original one.
And If you have another eloq.sbl file and made changes on it or
you can test your work with changing the pronunciation of a single
symbol and save it then replace the file with the one in the directory
I've mentioned earlier, just make sure to take a copy of the original
one as a backup somewhere else.

Here is a sample of how I did edit it and it still works,
you can do it if you know which line to edit.
I had a reference to all Arabic letters within the eloq.sbl file from
someone back then that made it much easier for me to work on it.
below the sample lines, you See the last "word" in each line that's
what eloquence pronounces when encounter an Arabic character I've
edited them to my liking using note pad.

symbol55=U+631 11111111 reh
symbol56=U+632 11111111 zeh
symbol57=U+633 11111111 seh
symbol58=U+634 11111111 sheh
symbol59=U+635 11111111 sah
symbol60=U+636 11111111 dhdheh
symbol61=U+637 11111111 ta
symbol62=U+638 11111111 dheh
symbol63=U+639 11111111 aa
symbol64=U+63a 11111111 gheh
symbol65=U+640 11111101 teh
symbol66=U+641 11111111 ffeh


On 7/1/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
Hey Hareth!
Interesting name by the way. Is it like a version of Harry? I tried editing
the file you described, but nothing changed! Not even editing the "Symbol
Descriptions.txt" file did anything either. What do I do next?
On 06/30/2022 11:25 PM Hareth <hareth4m@...> wrote:

Hi Annabelle,
"Eloq.sbl" works for me, I've edited it many years back to read Arabic
in a way I understand on the fly and real quick without having to
change the tts voice to anything other than eloquence. But I don't use
the user data directory.
Instead I replace it with the default one in the:
"C:\ProgramData\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\20xx\SETTINGS\eloq.sbl"
replace the "xx" with 21 in your case and open the folder as:
"C:\ProgramData\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2021\SETTINGS\"
Paste the file and replace it following the prompts, that would do it.
On 6/30/22, Annabelle Susan Morison <foristnights@...> wrote:
Hi, it's Annabelle.
Is "Eloq.sbl" still applicable in later versions of JAWS like JAWS 2021?
reason why I'm asking this is because I want to add some characters
JAWS seems to ignore when I type them. Particularly things like smileys
characters of foreign languages like Japanese, Russian, Hebrew, and
By the way, what's the difference between "Eloq.sbl", "Eloqmain.dct",

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