moderated Re: PDF files?

Justin Williams

AIRA is a good solution when things are inaccessible.


-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of Ekstrand,
Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2022 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: PDF files?

Very well said, Robin.

Just a comment on training courses. We have to take mandatory security
training courses every year, and some of those have the worst accessibility
issues. I find that some of the administrative tasks, such as these
training courses, performance self-assessments, etc. are harder to navigate
than the actual tasks I need to do for my job.

In my current job, I have been working from home for about 16 years, and I
agree with Robin that AIRA can be a big help if I am unable to figure out an
inaccessible screen. I have also used their service when people send me
screen shots that I cannot read. To me, it is worth having a monthly
subscription to AIRA just to help get through these kinds of situations in a
timely manner.

All the best to you, Claudia, and hang in there!


-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Van Lant, Robin
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2022 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: PDF files?

Hang in there. Depending on how much of what you are currently dealing with
will be ongoing actions you need to do versus a one time or only periodic
task, don't be afraid to ask if someone, such as an executive assistant can
come help you. I've had to do this with inaccessible programs or ones that
just take so much time to navigate and figure out for the random times I
need to do a task. You might also consider subscribing to AIRA, assuming
you have a smart phone and reasonable cell service in your office. While
they are unlikely to be able to connect to your PC to do the task for you
due to firewalls, you can potentially accomplish some tasks with them by
holding up the phone to your monitor. I started using this service when we
were working from home and I couldn't just go ask a co-worker to read an
inaccessible screen to me. If there are aspects of the training that you
could do on your home PC, you can actually have AIRA use Team Viewer to take
control of your computer and move faster to get the job done. If you are
an ACB member, and maybe with NFB, you can get 30 minutes per month for $20,
plus 5 minutes free every few hours. My tasks often take less than 5
minutes, so I don't' even tap into my paid minutes for a while. If there is
a month where I have a lot to do, I can buy extra minutes.

I'm feeling your pain with some new software at work that just feels like
it's eating my confidence, energy and time. I've been thinking to find a
coworker who will sit down with me to help me figure out the layout of this
software and what is happening when I click various things. I think that
having a sense of this would help me gain some efficiency. Again, I might
use AIRA to do this.

Hug to you.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: PDF files?

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So, I have Adobe Acrobat DC on the work computer with Narrator still, and
there are forms requiring signature.
We can digitally sign these forms, using our government digital signature,
but I still am unable to figure out where to place the signature on the


-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Christine Laton
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2022 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: PDF files?


I'm with you-just started a new job with a decent amount of PDF use. It
seems like forms are pretty accessible, but I would definitely ask for the
pro version if not already given to you.

Maybe we can tag team on things we figure out. I have to figure out how to
trim pages today.


On Jun 10, 2022, at 12:15 AM, Claudia <claudiadr2013@...> wrote:

Hello, I started a new job this week and they do a lot with PDF files. On
my previous job, I really had no issue with this. I used the latest version
of Jaws but there are a lot of forms that require us to fill them out. Is
there any way to reasonably do this using jars? Also, since Jaws has built
in OCR, is there even a need for me to request for cro while, as another
accommodation, at this point? Thanks.

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