moderated Re: youtube keystrokes

Karen Reynolds

Hi Bill,
Thanks. This really helps. Somewhere when they added the virtual cursor I
missed the explanation. <smile>


-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2022 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: youtube keystrokes

Hi, Karen. No, the Virtual Cursor is not the same as the JAWS Cursor. JAWS
cursor is accessed with the minus key on the NumPad, or in laptop keyboard
mode, CAPS LOCK+P. To return to the PC Cursor, press the plus on the NumPad,
or CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON, in laptop keyboard mode. Most of the time, you want
to leave the Virtual Cursor on with JAWS key plus Z, and remain in Virtual
Cursor mode, when in your browser. the confusing thing is, when you are in a
browser like Google Chrome, pressing the plus key on the NumPad will say
Virtual Cursor. When not in a browser, pressing the plus key on the NumPad
will say PC Cursor. This is because, when in Google Chrome or Microsoft,
JAWS and the browser automatically switch to Virtual Cursor Mode. So, unless
you are trying to navigate Youtube with the previously mentioned YouTube
keyboard commands, you want your Virtual Cursor to remain on (JAWS Key plus
Z should say Use Virtual Cursor on), when in Google Chrome or Microsoft
Edge. If you turn your Virtual Cursor off when in the browser, you won't be
able to navigate the webpage.

Bill White


-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of Karen
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2022 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: youtube keystrokes

Is the Jaws cursor the same as the virtual cursor? And how do you get into
the virtual cursor?


-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2022 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: youtube keystrokes


You can find this stuff explained in the JAWS manual, but perhaps it helps
to get a more hands-on sort of perspective.
The pC cursor is the actual system focus. When you move it around, you are
moving the actual system cursor (nB, n ot the mouse pointer). When you are
moving around in a word document and want to make an edit, you are using the
pC cursor. When you are tabbing around a programme interface or making
selections in a standard dialogue box, you are moving the pC cursor and it
is directly interacting with the controls.
The virtual cursor is just that -- it is normally not visible on screen, and
it is exclusively useful in situations where the screen-reader creates a
buffer that you can move around in using this cursor *without* directly
interacting with anything unless you directly click on a link or button. You
can't edit text in virtual mode; the so-called "forms mode" in jaws is
really just turning off the virtual cursor and placing your PC cursor in an
edit field where you can type. Most often you will see the virtual cursor
using a web browser or PDF document, where it is active by default. However
you can turn it on in other programmes as well, or put the contents of a
window into a virtual buffer, where you can easily read the text therein and
copy it to the clipboard if you need to. Using the pC cursor, you can only
copy text if it's specifically in an edit field.
Hopefully that all didn't just muddy the waters even further.

-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani
Sent: June 4, 2022 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: youtube keystrokes


I've never been clear on what exactly the difference between the Virtual
cursor vursus the PC cursors are. Can anyone offer an explanation or
description of the differences between them?



-----Original Message-----
From: <> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2022 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: youtube keystrokes


Thanks for posting all this. One other point that should mention that for
these KB commands to work is that we, JAWS users, have to press insert+t to
get out of the virtual mode.
This, by far, is the most complete list I've seen on this topic and includes
something I have been curious to play with, that "c" command for bringing up
the caption mode.
What I am hoping to discover is whether this will allow for clipping of text
from a video for quick easy review and searching later offline and for
saving of the info in a text searchable form.
And, oh yes, Madison, thanks for raising the question which prompted Bill's
thorough list.

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