moderated Re: youtube keystrokes


JM Casey
 

Hey Eileen.

I think that's understandable. The jAWS cursor can go places the pC cursor
won't go because it's normally n ot restricted to places where you can enter
text or activatea button. But it isn't very useful in many applications. An
interesting thign about the JAWS cursor though is that it is equivalent to
the mouse pointer. The mouse pointer can also go places in the window the PC
cursor can't reach. That's why when you have the JAWS cursor in certain
places in a window you can click the mouseo r use the corresponding nupad
buttons to activate the mouse.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani
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Sent: June 4, 2022 07:07 PM
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Subject: Re: youtube keystrokes

Hi JM,

Thank you. That was actually very good. I suppose I've had it mixed up
because I've always thought that it was the purpose of the Jaws cursor to
act/do what you describe the virtual cursor doing.

Eileen

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2022 5:44 PM
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Subject: Re: youtube keystrokes

Hello.

You can find this stuff explained in the JAWS manual, but perhaps it helps
to get a more hands-on sort of perspective.
The pC cursor is the actual system focus. When you move it around, you are
moving the actual system cursor (nB, n ot the mouse pointer). When you are
moving around in a word document and want to make an edit, you are using the
pC cursor. When you are tabbing around a programme interface or making
selections in a standard dialogue box, you are moving the pC cursor and it
is directly interacting with the controls.
The virtual cursor is just that -- it is normally not visible on screen, and
it is exclusively useful in situations where the screen-reader creates a
buffer that you can move around in using this cursor *without* directly
interacting with anything unless you directly click on a link or button. You
can't edit text in virtual mode; the so-called "forms mode" in jaws is
really just turning off the virtual cursor and placing your PC cursor in an
edit field where you can type. Most often you will see the virtual cursor
using a web browser or PDF document, where it is active by default. However
you can turn it on in other programmes as well, or put the contents of a
window into a virtual buffer, where you can easily read the text therein and
copy it to the clipboard if you need to. Using the pC cursor, you can only
copy text if it's specifically in an edit field.
Hopefully that all didn't just muddy the waters even further.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani
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Sent: June 4, 2022 11:10 AM
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Subject: Re: youtube keystrokes

Hi,

I've never been clear on what exactly the difference between the Virtual
cursor vursus the PC cursors are. Can anyone offer an explanation or
description of the differences between them?

Thanks.

Eileen

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2022 4:37 AM
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Subject: Re: youtube keystrokes

Bill

Thanks for posting all this. One other point that should mention that for
these KB commands to work is that we, JAWS users, have to press insert+t to
get out of the virtual mode.
This, by far, is the most complete list I've seen on this topic and includes
something I have been curious to play with, that "c" command for bringing up
the caption mode.
What I am hoping to discover is whether this will allow for clipping of text
from a video for quick easy review and searching later offline and for
saving of the info in a text searchable form.
And, oh yes, Madison, thanks for raising the question which prompted Bill's
thorough list.

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