moderated Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.


Mario
 

so, the alternative is to replace the old subject with a new one.
for example, instead of new subject, was old subject, just write new subject.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Howard Traxler [mailto:htraxler7@...]
Subject: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
Date: Thursday, November 4, 2021, 9:17 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
And when the list owners catch us changing the subject line, they say we
are high jacking the thread and it's a no no.

Howard

On 11/4/2021 2:16 PM, Chris via groups.io wrote:

You can always mute the topic if you are not interested or fed up of it

*From: *Judy <mailto:bunchkinbear@...>
*Sent: *04 November 2021 19:07
*To: *main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

Hello, I just randomly read this post. This subject line has been up
for days, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't have time to
read every single post on this busy list. So the couple I have read
had nothing to do with Jaws cost. A lot of us could miss something
that may be helpful to us if all of you would write a new post with
the correct subject line. This is really frustrating, as I assume the
subject line fits the message, which it doesn't anymore. Please stop
this. Judy & Libby

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Hareth

Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 12:07 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

Narrator sense one of win10 additions is more than enough to:

Installing windows from scratch

navigating through the windows initial setup

and after the above its good to install other screenreaders from

files, or even with internet browsing and downloading.

BTW, English is not my 1st language, I find win10 tts voice with

narrator just fine to understand. I'm probably not the only one who

really didn't get what you need narrator to do more than the above.

On 11/4/21, David Diamond <Daviddiamond2019@...> wrote:

It does not tell me the proper term, insert on both left or right
mouse keys

is not the proper term.  To bee truthful, I’m not sure of what the
verbiage

is, I just found it annoying and I can’t seem to get into the menu
to change

it.  All in all, a real pain. I have no idea how to get a screen
reader with

no active screen reader.  Even pasting the link from another
computer does

not work as how do I know if it is pasted and then, once it gets
there, one

has to scroll down to download it, again how can that be done if no
reader

is working.  For those who’ve done it, enlighten me.
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: November 4, 2021 4:57 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
I don’t understand this one.
Narrator will let you do mouse clicks, and all kinds. Besides, you don’t
need sighted help to install most screen readers.
All the best
Steve
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<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of David
Diamond

Sent: 04 November 2021 05:43
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
People come on, do you really think NVDA or any other screen reader will
recommend another one?  As for Narrator, I still can’t get it to work
without it not using any terminology close to the left mouse button
or right

mouse button.  Why is that important? Because when I’ve got a newer
computer, it is virtually impossible to use narrator to install any
other

screen reader.  Thus sighted assistance is mandatory.
From: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny

Sent: November 3, 2021 9:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
Well it's not behind their backs.
I have brought it up on a NVDA list where maintainers monitor and
post and

they all demonstrated no interest in including Jaws shortcuts as a
selection, and state that folks just have to get used to what they
think is

the best user interface.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Hunsaker<mailto:Hunsakerconsulting@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2021 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
I work with and teach dolphin, NaRrator, JAWS, NVDA, and ChromeVox.
I just

want to point out that most maintainers of NVDA are screenreader users.Â
You may disagree with how they set up the system and keystrokes, but
it not

appropriate to assume they are in some way indifferent to the needs
of the

blind community or actively antagonistic to the blind community.
Especially

when the accusation is made behind their backs.Â
That said, there are guides online for migrating from JAWS to NVDA.
But also

narrator is an option, though it appears oftentimes to have more in
common

with Mac OS Voiceover than JAWS.Â
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 15:57 Glenn / Lenny
<glenn@...<mailto:glenn@...>> wrote:

If NVDA maintainers really cared about helping the Blind, then they
would

include a Jaws layout for those who want it.
This is not unheard of, Microsoft Word used to have a WordPerfect mode,
where you could use WP keyboard commands and the WP layout.
I think WindowEyes also had a Jaws KB layout as well.
But the maintainers of NVDA are so anti-Jaws, that they have to do
anything

they can to try to prove that their product is better, to which I
say it is

not.
It does well, and is a good backup, probably better than Narrator,
but it

does not come close to JFW, and they could do a lot better to make
it easier

to recruit Jaws users.
Glenn
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----- Original Message -----
From: Loy<mailto:loyrg2845@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2021 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
If you can't afford JAWS, you can still use it in 40 min mode. Or
get NVDA,

it is Free and is a  great screen reader and there are tutorials
to help

you migrate from JAWS to NVDA.
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris via groups.io<mailto:chrismedley@...>
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
Even so , its still going to be expensive however much the discount is
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From: Edward Green<mailto:ergreen1981@...>
Sent: 02 November 2021 20:20
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
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Hi Chris,
Had you read my original message, you would have seen that I was talking
about their summer sale and not their regular pricing.
In that sale, they discount both SMAs and new licences.
Cheers,
Ed
On 2 November 2021 20:15:52 "Chris via groups.io<http://groups.io>"
<chrismedley@...<mailto:btinternet.com@groups.io>>
wrote:
according to sight and sound upgrades or maintenance agreements are
available to existing jaws owners only
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From: Edward Green<mailto:ergreen1981@...>
Sent: 02 November 2021 18:09
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
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No Chris, the £150 sale price extends to new licences not just to
SMAs.

Cheers,
Ed
On 2 November 2021 15:44:34 "Chris via groups.io<http://groups.io>"
<chrismedley@...<mailto:btinternet.com@groups.io>>
wrote:
Dont forget the £735+ vat to purchase jaws home before you can
purchaseÂ

an sma or upgrade licence
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From: Edward Green<mailto:ergreen1981@...>
Sent: 02 November 2021 12:56
To: main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
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Fi Billy,
The annual subscription mentioned isn’t available tu us in
the UK as

yet.
However, every summer Sight and Sound reduce the price of JAWS and
other FS

products in line with sales offered by FS. I can’t remember
what the

price of a JAWS licence was this year, but it wasn’t over
£150 I

don’t think.
Hanging on until July/August is likely to be your best bet, though
NVDA as

has already been suggested is a capable screen reader which may well
meet

your needs.
Cheers,
Ed
On 2 November 2021 10:06:53 "Billy Inglis"
<billyinglis49@...<mailto:billyinglis49@...>> wrote:
hi guys, I have been Informed purchasing the Jaws Screen Reader from
Freedom

Scientific these days is way to expensive. So I am asking if there
are other

ways of purchasing the software for us blindys?, Billy
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