You can always mute the topic if you are
not interested or fed up of it
Hello, I just randomly read this post. This
subject line has been up for days, and I'm sure I'm not the
only one who doesn't have time to read every single post on
this busy list. So the couple I have read had nothing to do
with Jaws cost. A lot of us could miss something that may be
helpful to us if all of you would write a new post with the
correct subject line. This is really frustrating, as I assume
the subject line fits the message, which it doesn't anymore.
Please stop this. Judy & Libby
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io
[mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Hareth
Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 12:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
Narrator sense one of win10 additions is
more than enough to:
Installing windows from scratch
navigating through the windows initial
setup
and after the above its good to install
other screenreaders from
files, or even with internet browsing and
downloading.
BTW, English is not my 1st language, I find
win10 tts voice with
narrator just fine to understand. I'm
probably not the only one who
really didn't get what you need narrator to
do more than the above.
On 11/4/21, David Diamond
<Daviddiamond2019@...> wrote:
> It does not tell me the proper term,
insert on both left or right mouse keys
> is not the proper term. To bee
truthful, I’m not sure of what the verbiage
> is, I just found it annoying and I
can’t seem to get into the menu to change
> it. All in all, a real pain. I have
no idea how to get a screen reader with
> no active screen reader. Even pasting
the link from another computer does
> not work as how do I know if it is
pasted and then, once it gets there, one
> has to scroll down to download it,
again how can that be done if no reader
> is working. For those who’ve done it,
enlighten me.
>
> From: main@jfw.groups.io
<main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
> Sent: November 4, 2021 4:57 AM
> To: main@jfw.groups.io
> Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
>
> I don’t understand this one.
>
> Narrator will let you do mouse clicks,
and all kinds. Besides, you don’t
> need sighted help to install most
screen readers.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
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> From:
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>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On
Behalf Of David Diamond
> Sent: 04 November 2021 05:43
> To:
main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
>
> People come on, do you really think
NVDA or any other screen reader will
> recommend another one? As for
Narrator, I still can’t get it to work
> without it not using any terminology
close to the left mouse button or right
> mouse button. Why is that important?
Because when I’ve got a newer
> computer, it is virtually impossible
to use narrator to install any other
> screen reader. Thus sighted
assistance is mandatory.
>
> From:
main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
>
<main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On
Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
> Sent: November 3, 2021 9:13 PM
> To:
main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
>
> Well it's not behind their backs.
> I have brought it up on a NVDA list
where maintainers monitor and post and
> they all demonstrated no interest in
including Jaws shortcuts as a
> selection, and state that folks just
have to get used to what they think is
> the best user interface.
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael
Hunsaker<mailto:Hunsakerconsulting@...>
> To:
main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2021
7:59 AM
> Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
>
> I work with and teach dolphin,
NaRrator, JAWS, NVDA, and ChromeVox. I just
> want to point out that most
maintainers of NVDA are screenreader users.Â
>
> You may disagree with how they set up
the system and keystrokes, but it not
> appropriate to assume they are in some
way indifferent to the needs of the
> blind community or actively
antagonistic to the blind community. Especially
> when the accusation is made behind
their backs.Â
>
> That said, there are guides online for
migrating from JAWS to NVDA. But also
> narrator is an option, though it
appears oftentimes to have more in common
> with Mac OS Voiceover than JAWS.Â
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 15:57 Glenn /
Lenny
>
<glenn@...<mailto:glenn@...>>
wrote:
> 
> If NVDA maintainers really cared about
helping the Blind, then they would
> include a Jaws layout for those who
want it.
> This is not unheard of, Microsoft Word
used to have a WordPerfect mode,
> where you could use WP keyboard
commands and the WP layout.
> I think WindowEyes also had a Jaws KB
layout as well.
> But the maintainers of NVDA are so
anti-Jaws, that they have to do anything
> they can to try to prove that their
product is better, to which I say it is
> not.
> It does well, and is a good backup,
probably better than Narrator, but it
> does not come close to JFW, and they
could do a lot better to make it easier
> to recruit Jaws users.
> Glenn
> Â
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
Loy<mailto:loyrg2845@...>
> To:
main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2021 4:49
PM
> Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
>
> If you can't afford JAWS, you can
still use it in 40 min mode. Or get NVDA,
> it is Free and is a  great screen
reader and there are tutorials to help
> you migrate from JAWS to NVDA.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris via
groups.io<mailto:chrismedley@...>
> To:
main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 4:54
PM
> Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
>
> Even so , its still going to be
expensive however much the discount is
> Â
> Â
> From: Edward
Green<mailto:ergreen1981@...>
> Sent: 02 November 2021 20:20
> To:
main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
> Â
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> Had you read my original message, you
would have seen that I was talking
> about their summer sale and not their
regular pricing.
>
> In that sale, they discount both SMAs
and new licences.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ed
>
> On 2 November 2021 20:15:52 "Chris via
groups.io<http://groups.io>"
>
<chrismedley@...<mailto:btinternet.com@groups.io>>
> wrote:
> according to sight and sound upgrades
or maintenance agreements are
> available to existing jaws owners only
> Â
> Â
> From: Edward
Green<mailto:ergreen1981@...>
> Sent: 02 November 2021 18:09
> To:
main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
> Â
>
> No Chris, the £150 sale price
extends to new licences not just to SMAs.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ed
>
> On 2 November 2021 15:44:34 "Chris via
groups.io<http://groups.io>"
>
<chrismedley@...<mailto:btinternet.com@groups.io>>
> wrote:
> Dont forget the £735+ vat to
purchase jaws home before you can purchaseÂ
> an sma or upgrade licence
> Â
> Â
> Â
> Â
> From: Edward
Green<mailto:ergreen1981@...>
> Sent: 02 November 2021 12:56
> To:
main@jfw.groups.io<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
> Â
>
> Fi Billy,
>
> The annual subscription mentioned
isn’t available tu us in the UK as
> yet.
>
> However, every summer Sight and Sound
reduce the price of JAWS and other FS
> products in line with sales offered by
FS. I can’t remember what the
> price of a JAWS licence was this year,
but it wasn’t over £150 I
> don’t think.
>
> Hanging on until July/August is likely
to be your best bet, though NVDA as
> has already been suggested is a
capable screen reader which may well meet
> your needs.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ed
>
> On 2 November 2021 10:06:53 "Billy
Inglis"
>
<billyinglis49@...<mailto:billyinglis49@...>>
wrote:
> hi guys, I have been Informed
purchasing the Jaws Screen Reader from Freedom
> Scientific these days is way to
expensive. So I am asking if there are other
> ways of purchasing the software for us
blindys?, Billy
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