moderated Re: different dos screen readers back in 1989

Hank William Merchant <hank_w@...>

Good morning everyone,
I dont know personally if jaws existed back in 1989, but I know for absolute 100% certainty that a really, really good screen reader for dos existed back in the Spring of 1989 called Slimware, which was developped by a programmer really nice fellow by the name of David Costician, who was the owner and head of the company that made and was constantly updating this screen reader called Slimware that was based in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. It was this screen reader for dos called slimware after I was introduced to it back in the Spring of 1989 at the head ofice of the Canadian National Institute for the Blind in Toronto, Canada that was the first screen reader that I used that I startaed using in September of that year 1989 on a dos laptop computer.
Later in the early 90s this programmer  David Cosstician developed a really, really good screen reader for Windows called Windowbridge, which was being updated constantly and coming out with new releases often, which I personally was using as my Windows screen reader back then,  until the very surpriseingly, unfortunate death of this very nice programmer fellow David Costician later on around 2001, which subsequently ended any future developments of this really, really good Windows screen reader called Windowbridge back in 2001. So it was at that point back in 2001 that I started using jaws for Windows. I cant say with 100% certainty, but I believe this really, really good screen reder for windows called Windowbridge was the first screen reader of any kind to work with Windows programs.
Also back in 1989 there was also a dos screen reader called Arctic.
Kindest regards,

From: Dave Durber
Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
As far as I remember, the last version release for JAWS for DOS, was 3.62.
In addition to the screen readers and synthesizers backthen, there was also the VersaBraille I and VersaBraille II and II+. With its emulator, Vert, VB users could interact directly with the VB and their DOS computer. Many programs were written for the VB II and II+, including Duxbury.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

But that must have already been a different version of Jaws than the Jaws for DOS I had in 1989 which I think was also version 1.something.


From: <> On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: November 2, 2021 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.



Yes, JAWS 1.0 supported Windows 3.1 when it was released in Jan 95.



On 2 November 2021 18:31:51 "Glenn / Lenny" <glenn@...> wrote:

For some reason I thought I recalled using Jaws for windows in windows 3.1,
before 95.
Maybe I was just booting windows and using Jaws for DOS in the CLI.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario" <mrb620@...>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2021 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

and JAWS for Windows 95 came out in 95.

-------- Original Message --------
From: Glenn / Lenny [mailto:glenn@...]
Subject: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.
Date: Tuesday, November 2, 2021, 1:04 PM
To: <>
There was Jaws for DOS.

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Gerald Levy via
*To:* <>
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 02, 2021 11:55 AM
*Subject:* Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.

You have been using JAWS since 1989?Ã, That would be impossible
because JAWS was not introduced until 1995.Ã, In fact, I don't think
any screen reader existed in 1989, not even Voice Over.


On 11/2/2021 12:36 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Steve, as a 54-year old very active technology user who has been
using Jaws since 1989 I have tried to use NVDA a few times and I
just can't do much with it because of the differences. Yes, maybe
some keys are similar, but it still is quite different as well. Of
course then again I just have not felt motivated to really spend
time learning it to the point where I might feel more comfortable
with it since I always keep my Jaws up to date.


*From:* <> *On Behalf Of
*Steve Nutt
*Sent:* November 2, 2021 9:02 AM
*Subject:* Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.


Hi Billy,


I donââ,¬â"¢t think it would.


Many of the keystrokes are similar to JAWS.


All the best




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*From:* <> *On Behalf Of
*Billy Inglis
*Sent:* 02 November 2021 15:48
*Subject:* Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.


hi ED, at my time of life NVDA would be too much of a learning
curve, as well as the health Issues I have,

but thanks you guys, Billy

*From:*Edward Green

*Sent:*Tuesday, November 2, 2021 12:56 PM


*Subject:*Re: Jaws Screen Reader cost?.


Fi Billy,

The annual subscription mentioned isnââ,¬â"¢t available tu us in the
UK as yet.

However, every summer Sight and Sound reduce the price of JAWS and
other FS products in line with sales offered by FS. I canââ,¬â"¢t
remember what the price of a JAWS licence was this year, but it
wasnââ,¬â"¢t over Ã,£150 I donââ,¬â"¢t think.

Hanging on until July/August is likely to be your best bet, though
NVDA as has already been suggested is a capable screen reader
which may well meet your needs.



On 2 November 2021 10:06:53 "Billy Inglis"
<billyinglis49@...> wrote:

hi guys, I have been Informed purchasing the Jaws Screen
Reader from Freedom Scientific these days is way to expensive.
So I am asking if there are other ways of purchasing the
software for us blindys?, Billy


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