-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: 03 August 2021 21:41
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly

Who thinks invoking JAWS from the run command line is easier than using
a shortcut key or just typing j at the desktop?


Maria Campbell
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On 8/3/2021 4:37 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Yep. I do realise this and even alluded to it in my comment, but it needn't
have a desktop icon or shortcut just because it's there.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots
Sent: August 3, 2021 04:35 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly

But keeping an older version of JAWS is sometimes handy. Such as a
discontinued feature or your current version goes screwy. I don't call that
making things complicated? Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: 03 August 2021 21:28
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly

Or, you know, just delete the jaws 2020 desktop shortcut before you install
j2021. Or assign it a different hotkey before you install. Gosh, people make
things seem so much complicated than they are (not you, just saying, in
general...hotkeys are just not a complicated business) As far as I know NVDA
has not dropped it. Maybe next time I update NVDA I'll delete the shortcut
first and see what happens.


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots
Sent: August 3, 2021 04:25 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly

They dropped it earlier than that. The trouble was if you have say
CTRL+ALT+J setup on JAWS 2020 and upgraded to 2021, the shortcut
CTRL+ALT+CTRL+ALT+J
would open JAWS 2020 not 2021. To make it open JAWS 2021, you would first
have to unallocated the keyboard shortcut to JAWS 2020, then reassign it to
JAWS 2021. That seemed to cause a lot of confusion so they stopped adding it
by default. I think NVDA have only recently dropped adding CTRL+ALT+N by
default recently though.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: 03 August 2021 21:13
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly

You are right.
They dropped it I think with either Jaws 2021 or 2020. There were too many
complaints about Jaws not respecting the hotkey setting when updating and
such.

I forgot about that because I always just go ahead and recreate
control+alt+j when needed.

Thanks,


Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 1:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly

Hi Richard, I might be wrong here, but I don't think the Jaws shortcut has a
default shortcut associated with it. Of course it's easy to do by going to
the properties of the shortcut on the desktop and assigning either Alt +
Control + J or, my personal preference, Control + Shift + J.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:45 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly

Jaws default hotkey to close Jaws is insert+f4. There is a setting that you
can make it so there is no confirmation, it just goes away. Otherwise,
there will be an OK to hit confirming you want to close Jaws.

The hotkey for NVDA is insert+q. That too has an option to have it close
without confirmation.

Normally, the default hotkey to start Jaws is Control+alt+j though that is
customizable.
NVDA defaults to Control+alt+n, but again, tha tis customizable.

You need never go to the desktop to accomplish what you want.
.




Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:30 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Seamlessly switching from JAWS to NVDA on the fly

Hi,

I sometimes switch over to NVDA from JAWS, in order to determine how it
deals with something that jaws is struggling with. But the process to do so
is slightly cumbersome. It requires going to desktop, turning off jaws,
turning on nvda and then going back to where I was.

Is there a way to switch on the fly? Or at least to turn JAWS and NVDA on
and off?


Warmly,
Rahul

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Rahul Bajaj
Senior Resident Fellow,
Vidhi Centre for Legal Policy, New Delhi, India Rhodes Scholar (India and
Linacre 2018) University of Oxford