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Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 8:45 PM
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Subject: Re: new n quick navigation in Outlook messages is amazing
Brian,
Here at work, it is very common for people to hit reply or reply all on a topic and, after some banter, the email body is really long with the history of the chatter. If I jump into a conversation that is in process, this new feature
will allow me to quickly go back through the conversation chain in that message to see what I missed thus far. This can be particularly helpful is you are suddenly brought into an email discussion partway through. That is. Two colleagues might banter about
a topic, then decide to copy me on it and I then need to read back through to see what was discussed before I was brought into the conversation. I’m hoping this will work, even if someone is just forwarding me an email. As of late, I’ve been forwarded messages
that have a long list of recipients included in the forwarded headers. That can be important for me to know who got the original message, but has been a pain to skip over with JAWS to get to the email contact.
Like you, I originally thought the new JAWS feature was to help with threaded conversations and I didn’t’ see the value. I was so glad Eric demonstrated it on a podcast so I understood what they were really getting at.
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On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 01:13 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
The difference is that the Jaws command works in a given message where all the replies are in that one now very large message.
This is not using threading or Conversations as Outlook calls it.
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Richard,
Thanks. This is exactly the clarification I needed.
At one time (and this is something that was a sighted versus blind community convention split, in my observation), it was most common for those replying to do one of several things, depending on what the situation called for:
1. What I did in this very message - Top quoting a brief snippet to make clear exactly who and what is being responded to in a multi-person topic, but removing all else.
2. Doing a quote-response-quote-response interspersing style when multiple separate points are being responded to, sometimes in reply to multiple participants in the same message.
3. A naked reply, with all previous content removed, when there can be no doubt based on the thread/conversation flow who and what is being replied/responded to.
The kind of massive bottom quoting that I characteristically see in the blind email lists just was not (and still is not, generally) done in sighted email exchanges (for lack of a better way of putting it). The presence of every message in an ongoing topic
used to drive me almost to distraction, but I've gotten used to it. But it still makes searching archives to find the actual original instance of a given message hellish when that content is quoted and quoted and quoted again and again, in its entirety, and
I'm often looking for the original in a group archive so I can give a direct link to that message, and only that message.
I wish
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Brian - Windows
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