moderated Re: questions about the home annual license


Sieghard Weitzel <sieghard@...>
 

Correct and don't forget that with your annual subscription you are not limited to using only the latest version, if you have a subscription right now you have access to Jaws 2021, in October or November when 2022 comes out you automatically have access to that, but you can still have Jaws 2020 or Jaws 2019 installed on your system and use it whenever you please.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 4:47 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: questions about the home annual license


Unfortunately, that is not how a subscription service works. You are not purchasing a particular version. You are paying for the ability to access the full version of the software no matter the version. That is why if you do not renew your subscription, the software will only work in demo mode no matter the version. With a subscription, you actually never own the software.

Whether you choose to stay with an older version, or upgrade to the latest version is something you are choosing to do yourself, and does not have any effect on the subscription cost, remember, you are paying for the ability to access the full version of the software no matter the version.

Many software companies use the subscription model now, including Microsoft, Adobe, plus many more. Whether we like it or not, it is the choice we have at the moment if we want to use the software.

Chris


On Jun 19, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Glenn / Lenny <glenn@ervin.email> wrote:

´╗┐No,
If someone buys 2019 in 2019,
In 2020, they should be able to renew 2019 in 2020 for less than 90 dollars which would otherwise get them 2020.

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Subject: Re: questions about the home annual license


I think you may be missing something. As I understand it, if it is 2020, you cannot buy 2019; only 2020. So, you actually cannot buy an older version with this new home annual license arrangement.
So, you are always faced with buying the latest and perhaps greatest, perhaps not, version.

Which is why, in my case, I already had the SMA; so I've stuck with the SMA because, so far, I it is less than the Home Annual license and I can keep last year's version on my machine to switch back to if the new version is causing issues.



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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 1:27 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: questions about the home annual license

The home annual one of course.
If a year goes by, and there is a newer version out, it should cost less to renew an older version.
And that cost should go down for the old version each year, like for
example:
purchase 2019 in 2019
$90
In my opinion, 2019 should be less in 2020 to renew after 2020 has been put out.
So folks should pay more for the latest and greatest.
I'm sure that FS probably wouldn't do this because they want to get all they can for Jaws, which is to be expected of any, "for profit company".
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: questions about the home annual license


I'm not sure if you are talking about the Home annual subscription or the SMA license.

The Home annual subscription means that when the year runs out, you either resubscribe for the next year at $90 or you go into Demo mode.
If you had the SMA license, and decide to stop renewing, then it remains a fully functional version of Jaws.

When you decide you want to upgrade the SMA license, you usually have to pay for the years in between that you skipped; though I understand if that adds up to a lot of years, they will work with folks.

I hope that helps.



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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Glenn /
Lenny
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 12:56 PM
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Subject: Re: questions about the home annual license

A question I have on this as well is,
If someone has the renuible license for say, 2019, and they are happy with that, is it less expensive to update the license in 2020, even if that person doesn't want 2020?
I know the annual fee is like 90 dollars, but it seems to me that if there is a newer version out, and the person wants to just keep using 2019, the fee should be less for an older Jaws.
Glenn
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From: "Vicky Collins" <vcollins5286@gmail.com>
To: <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: questions about the home annual license


Writing on both at the exact same time, grin, likely not, although I
could very well be listening to two things at the same time. What you
say does make sense, though. However, the licensing issue isn't
really my main concern, since I'm enjoying learning more about the
home annual one at the moment. By the way, I finally remembered to go
to YouTube and search for videos about the home annual license, and I
saw where someone had actually posted one where they activated,
deactivated, and then reactivated the license on one of their
computers. Thus, since I'm naturally curious and with that in mind, I
was able to experiment and find out the answer to my other activation
question. Then, for my purposes, that leaves me with only the
changing email address question, and I see no other way than to
contact FS about that as I do want to have everything with them now
at my Gmail address.

Thanks all for your responses.

----- Original Message -----
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To: "main@jfw.groups.io" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, June 19, 2021 12:18 pm
Subject: Re: questions about the home annual license



Vicky,
Are you going to be writing on both machines at the exact same time?

They phrase it that way so you wouldn't be at work and someone else
be at home using your same licensed copy.

Or am I missing something?

Again, asking FS is the best thing to do before making any decisions.

HTH,


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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicky
Collins
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 8:48 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: questions about the home annual license

I'll have to go and take a look again, but if memory serves,
technically unless I'm misunderstanding things, the license
agreement says you can have the license activated on up to three
computers, but you are limited to using it on one computer at a
time, thus my wanting to keep the licenses separate.

----- Original Message -----
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To: "main@jfw.groups.io" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, June 19, 2021 11:17 am
Subject: Re: questions about the home annual license



I believe FS has no problem with you having your SMA Jaws on two
devices.. I know you can have it on your home and work computers,
no problem.

But, all your questions will be best answered by FS staff.

Good luck,



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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vicky
Collins
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2021 8:03 AM
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Subject: questions about the home annual license

Of course I can contact Freedom Scientific, and will likely do so
early next week, but I figured I would ask here first just in case.

First, when logging into the portal for the home annual license
and then going to the place to update ones profile, for some
reason, updating the email address doesn't seem to be available.
There's a checkbox to have a reminder sent when it's time to renew
the license, but that won't help a lot if the person has changed
their email address. So am I missing something here, or is it just
not possible to update the email address online?

Second, I just recently purchased a used ElBraille 14 from
someone, and I wanted to have that JAWS license separate from my
SMA license for my main computer, so I could use them both at the
same time if I wanted.
That's why my questions now about the home annual license, as I
just activated it for the ElBraille. Never mind, grin, that I've
had this license for some time now, getting it a discount around
convention time last year, and so only have a little over a couple
of months on it left. Anyway, best I can tell, one is able to log
in to the portal and deactivate and active license, or perhaps I
should say an active use of that license. Thus, just out of
curiosity, if I were to log into the portal and deactivate the
ElBraille from another computer or phone, would the ElBraille
automatically go into demo mode on boot up if not connected to the
internet, or would the full license still work until I connected
to the internet? Also, if I were to deactivate the license on the
ElBrai
lle, I'm assuming I could reactivate it again if still during the
term of the license?

My activation questions are more of a curiosity thing, especially
since being used to notetakers and not using a braille display to
work the computer, it took me forever to figure out how to write
the at sign on the ElBraille so I could get logged into the portal
to activate the thing, so I plan to leave it activated. It's going
to be quite a learning curve going from the U2 Mini and occasional
use of the Polaris to the ElBraille, but I'm looking forward to it.







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