moderated Re: IE being removed from Win 10 20H2 and later, effective June 15th 2022


 

On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 01:50 PM, James English wrote:
Updates from internet explorer stopped in 2016, and internet explorer is available as a download from the Microsoft website, so it's clearly not as linked to the OS itself as you seem to be making out.
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You're confusing separability and inseparability.  There were lawsuits way back when at the time Microsoft was literally trying to build their web browser (IE) in to the OS such that it could not be removed.  They lost, and it had to be designed to be separable from Windows without breaking Windows and allowing any other alternative or alternatives of the owner's choosing to be installed.

Edge (both original and new Chromium-based) are separable from Windows 10.  They can be removed.  But what's removed is the "unshared part" as an easy way of describing it.  There are, or were (and I think it remains are), large parts of Windows 10 itself that rely directly on the EdgeHTML rendering engine that was at the heart of original Edge.  But Edge original, being separable, can be removed as an end-user product while leaving the shared EdgeHTML component firmly in place and in use.  EdgeHTML is not a static thing, and it has dependencies on other components, and as those other components change, so must it, at least at times.  Maintenance does not stop.

IE worked in precisely the same way.  What we all think of as IE as users is separable from Windows 10, but some of the components it uses are not.  Unless something is an entirely self-contained executable that is in no way dependent on having access to things like DLLs (dynamic link libraries) that are not under its control, then it must be maintained, as needed, when those things not under its control change.

Regardless of how one prefers to phrase it, you can't just leave certain things in place and untouched.  You either have to commit to ongoing maintenance (patching, mostly, and for the kind of changes previously noted) at a minimum, or the thing must go.  And the last thing you really want is something being minimally patched, with little or no consideration of security issues, to continue to just sit there so that some tiny contingent could still use it.  You're opening up your ecosystem and the vast majority of your users to threats that would not otherwise exist.

The fact is that things die, and we must move on.  And sometimes that involves some very painful changes.  But, and it's important, anyone who is currently using something that has been out of any sort of maintenance for over 5 years has to realize that it could disappear at a moment's notice, at least on currently supported platforms.  It appears that what you are attempting to access will require a Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 machine to gain access until and unless the site itself were to disappear.  You made a choice, and the consequences of that choice really are predictable, whether you want to hear or accept that or not.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

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