moderated Re: email clients

Shan Noyes

If you’re running office 2010 there is more probably one should worry about in terms of security then outlook 2010 what about XL 2010 and word 2010 just a thought have a good day

On Apr 7, 2021, at 6:21 PM, Alan Lemly <walemly@...> wrote:

HI Adrian,


I got into this whole Office update thing because I recently got a new Windows 10 computer and am getting more concerned about Outlook 2010 being considered an insecure app. I was able to turn on 2 step verification for my Google Gmail account and add an app password to my Outlook 2010. Now that I believe that's under control, I think I'm just going to install Office 2010 Pro on my new computer and see how it goes.  Now I have to research moving my Outlook POP3 account to IMAP without losing my calendar and contacts as I move from my Windows 7 to my Windows 10 computer. That will be something to keep my mind occupied. I placed one of those Microsoft Office 2019 Pro licenses in my shopping cart on eBay but I'm going to think about it a bit before spending the $69.




From: [] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: email clients




I share your concern about Office 365’s automatic updating model. Have you considered, instead, Office 2019? I’ve read favorable reports on these lists. I have Office 2016, which works fine, but it looks as though 2019 has improvements.


I haven’t red this entire thread, so I apologize if I’m repeating what has already been said.


From: <> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, April 7, 2021 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: email clients




Thanks for the recommendation. My main issue with Microsoft 365 Personal is being able to control when the component apps are updated. I really don't like my computer or its resident software doing my thinking for me. Is it possible to get Microsoft 365 and turn off automatic app updates?


Alan Lemly


From: [] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2021 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: email clients


If cost isn't an issue I recommend Microsoft 365 because as long as you also run the latest version of Jaws you will typically get the best experience. I say typically because I have once or twice experienced situations where an Office update may have cause temporary issues, but since Microsoft Accessibility as well as Jaws usually are made aware of these such issues usually don't last too long before a fix from Microsoft or Jaws addresses the problem.


From: <> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: email clients




I understand about security updates and their importance and expect it's time to move to a newer version of Microsoft Office. I'm not a fan of subscription models and their continuous updates and believe the best security for one's computer is smart practices for how it's used. Now I just need to decide which perpetual version of Office I can still obtain at a reasonable price.


Alan lemly


From: [] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2021 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: email clients


On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:11 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:

don't believe I've received any support from Microsoft during that time including before 10/13/20 when it was still supported.

Support is not tech support, or at least that's not what's meant.

Microsoft (or any other software maker) supporting a product means that they do what's necessary to keep it safe to use as circumstances change.  The most important part of software support is security patches.

I am not telling you, or anyone else, what they may or may not choose to do.  But you have not been getting any significant maintenance and patching since last October, and using things like e-mail clients and web browsers that are out of support is using a wide open attack surface as time marches on.

I can't say that I've never, ever used anything that is out-of-support but what I have used does not have any contact with cyberspace.  That's not possible with an email client or web browser.

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

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            ~Brian Vogel

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