moderated Re: email clients

David Diamond

There are generally government grants one could get to help out if cost is a problem.  The thing is, you need to know who to talk too and if you have some pride, swallow it.  This was when we could walk around in public with no restrictions, if showing up for one of those interviews, don’t show up in expensive clothing but don’t have rags on either. One person lamented on not getting any help for purchasing a device she needed to help her with her vision problem.  She dressed like a homeless person, hair uncombed etc.  so it was suspected that’s why she did not get any financial assistants. Office 365 costs I believe $99 per year for the ability for 5 users to use it.    


From: <> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: April 7, 2021 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: email clients


If cost isn't an issue I recommend Microsoft 365 because as long as you also run the latest version of Jaws you will typically get the best experience. I say typically because I have once or twice experienced situations where an Office update may have cause temporary issues, but since Microsoft Accessibility as well as Jaws usually are made aware of these such issues usually don't last too long before a fix from Microsoft or Jaws addresses the problem.


From: <> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: email clients




I understand about security updates and their importance and expect it's time to move to a newer version of Microsoft Office. I'm not a fan of subscription models and their continuous updates and believe the best security for one's computer is smart practices for how it's used. Now I just need to decide which perpetual version of Office I can still obtain at a reasonable price.


Alan lemly


From: [] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2021 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: email clients


On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 12:11 AM, Alan Lemly wrote:

don't believe I've received any support from Microsoft during that time including before 10/13/20 when it was still supported.

Support is not tech support, or at least that's not what's meant.

Microsoft (or any other software maker) supporting a product means that they do what's necessary to keep it safe to use as circumstances change.  The most important part of software support is security patches.

I am not telling you, or anyone else, what they may or may not choose to do.  But you have not been getting any significant maintenance and patching since last October, and using things like e-mail clients and web browsers that are out of support is using a wide open attack surface as time marches on.

I can't say that I've never, ever used anything that is out-of-support but what I have used does not have any contact with cyberspace.  That's not possible with an email client or web browser.

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel

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