Moderated Re: email clients

James Bentley

Sieghard and list members,


Everyone certainly has their right to their own opinion.


As for me, I agree with your post ten thousand percent.


I manage a lot better with computers now compared to lets say four years ago.


But, I remember a time in my life when I had only one computer with almost no ability to keep it up and running all by myself.  To further exacerbate the situation , I did not have the extra money to pay for any computer repairs.


And, of course, my laptop suddenly needed to be formatted and reinstalled.


I live alone and in an area where there is little to no free computer tech support.


But, Brian was there for me.  It took me two and a half days to finally figure out how to follow his directions.  I would have never accomplished getting my window to the world back up and running with his help.  And, I mean he stuck with me for almost three days.


Now, maybe Brian isn’t perfect but he is sure perfect enough for me.  I have witnessed Brian taking so very much of his time, energy, and experience to assist others without ever asking for one single dime.


That’s my little two cents worth and I have zero hard feelings for anyone who disagrees with me.


Peace and patience to all of you,  including Brian,


James B 


From: <> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: email clients


Ricky, you should keep your facts straight, Brian recently decided to unsubscribe from the Windows 10 list and the majority of list members felt this was a great loss.

You seem to be on a personal mission to convince others that just because you don't like his approach nobody should. Interestingly enough once again the majority of people on the Windows 10 list didn't seem to have a big problem with his messages, Brian can be very direct and he may question why somebody asks a question for which it is extremely easy to find an answer and he is definitely correct in saying that there are a few individuals who are just too lazy to take notes and hence ask the same simple things over and over or they ask because they don't want to go out of their comfort zone and try to look up how to do something by looking it up online.

If you like I could send you instructions on how to set up a filter so all Brian's emails go to your trash folder and this way you don't need to experience high blood pressure or waste time to bad mouth him everytime he writes something you don't like.

I by the way am also completely blind, but if you can't accept the fact that not everybody has your personality then maybe you are the one who should start your own list because as other spointed out, most of us are not offended.


From: <> On Behalf Of Rick Mladek
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: email clients


The point is simple, I am and he has attacked individuals on other lists previously. Who cares what he knows. I will not accept his rudeness, attacks etc. towards any blind person no matter their knowledge. He has no right to do this and has been forced off of other groups due to his total lack of respect for anyone. No, you do not know this person and he surely should be removed from tjhis list, no matter what he believes he knows or otherwise. Do not defend those obviously guilty and if you believe you need to, then as I told him, go start your own group list for rude people and go attack one another. He went after Randy and I have no idea how you do not see this.


From: <> On Behalf Of Don Walls
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: email clients


Rick, your message seems quite over-the-top.  I am blind and certainly am not offended by Brian’s comments.  As for Randy’s messages, they seem to follow a pattern of his persistent criticism of Brian and I can’t wonder that Brian is fed up with them.  Brian responds frequently to questions on this list and is generous with his time.  We are blind.  It doesn’t give us the mandate to trash others mindlessly with rants.




From: Rick Mladek

Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 8:01 AM

Subject: Re: email clients




It is an obvious pattern with you that you believe that just because you are sighted that you have the ability to talk down towards those who do not. For the administrator of this list, please shut this person up now for he has been this way on other lists/grops previously and has for the better, removed himself when those, as myself, step up and no longer will accept his rudeness, discriminative communication and outright condemnation towards those blind. Brian, do us a favor and go start your own list and again remove yourself from this. You again believe you are above those blind and I will not stand for this on this sight no more than I went up against you on the prevous site you removed yourself from. YOu have no ability to be cordial to those whom may not have as much knowledge towards a problem to have it corrected and although you may believe yourself superior, your the most ignorant individual most of us on these list groups have ever encountered. Remove yourself again and do us all a favor. I will not stand for you to be this way towards those in need and more, towards those blind seeking assistance. For the Administrator, I request this person be removed without further delay.



From: <> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: email clients


On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 10:43 AM, Randy Barnett wrote:

Once again you are totally wrong in your assumptions.

Randy, please stop your incessant preaching at me.  I have been around screen readers and screen reader users for well over a decade now.

I cannot help it if someone does not bother to vet the actual content of a page they post.  And my describing something in visual terms, as there are many here who did at one time have vision or still have some residual vision, cannot and should not be considered an insult to anyone who doesn't.

I don't give a damn about your opinions.

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

There are many who labor under the gross misapprehension that the Constitution is a cage and a laundry-list rather than a framework upon which great things have been and still will be built. Many things that are entirely Constitutional are not "in the Constitution," but are allowed under it.

            ~Brian Vogel

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