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I don't like eloquence either. The version that used to ship
with k1000 was better, but the one with jaws sounds like audio
above a certain frequency is completely missing. I use Tom
Premium High on Jaws and my phone both, it seems about the best,
and since I can have it on both, things are usually mis-pronounced
everywhere, which bothers me less.
I used to have a Dec express, I wish I could get that voice back,
maybe without the problem of not being able to shut it up quickly,
that might be the best of all worlds.
On 2/2/2021 10:07, Van Lant, Robin via
It’s been a while, but, even on my iPhone,
I think there is more inflection in the full or enhanced
versions. I was a Window Eyes user with Dec Talk for many
years, so I don’t mind the robotic sounds of Eloquence, but
there is something to the about the voices that I find hard or
fuzzy to my hearing, not the diction, but the audio quality.
I like the sound clarity in Vocalizer Nathan the most, despite
some of its pronunciation quirks. I like that the Compact
voices are less emotive and more steady. I’m also not one who
listens to speech super-fast, so that isn’t a concern to me.
I’m faster than the default for sure, but not the rocket speed
I hear others use. I’m not diagnosed as hearing impaired, but
have some sort of issues with my hearing of certain
frequencies or tones. I also like Microsoft Mobile Mike for
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Yes, synthesizers try to guess context, if they just
pronounced words, they wouldn't work near as well. It
becomes obvious when they guess wrong. May I ask why you
are using the compact version of the voice? These are
always inferior to the real versions, and most hardware
won't have trouble with the full one.
On 2/1/2021 17:22, Van Lant, Robin via
I’m using Vocalizer Nathan Compact
with JAWS 2021. This is not the first case, but is
striking today, so it prompted me to pose the question.
I was reading through an Excel file for work of incoming
new hires. I thought there was a typo, because the name
of one of the colleges was mispronounced if I read the
cell. If I read word by word, it says the word fine. I
pasted the name into Word and the same thing occurs.
Reading in any manner except word by word, causes
Vocalizer to mispronounce it. I’ve switched to
Eloquence, Microsoft Mobile, and VoiceWare, all of which
do not have this issue. As I noted, this is not the
first case. Do other people notice similar issues with
Vocalizer? Is there a technical reason why a word would
be pronounced differently in word by word versus line by
line or say all?
Here is the college. The last word
is the issue. I have fixed it in my dictionary manager
for now by adding a third s to the word.
College of the Holy Cross
I really love the sound of Nathan’s
compact voice, but am quite surprised by some of the
strange pronunciations it has for common words. Even
the opposite of “Female” is totally off and is the first
thing I adjust in a new dictionary file.
Using Windows 10, JAWS 2021, Office
Robin Van Lant
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