moderated Re: Using hyphen
using Eloquence with JAWS, to me, it sounds more like en dash.toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
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From: Van Lant, Robin via groups.io [mailto:Robin_Van_Lant=Key.firstname.lastname@example.org]
To: email@example.com <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2021, 3:08 PM
Subject: Using hyphen
To echo what Bill pointed out, sighted readers will be a bit confused by
someone using a simple hyphen between words since it is visually shorter
in length, rather than the m Dash the autocorrection makes. Better to
leave it to autocorrect and just know why JAWS is saying m dash. I
agree; at least with Vocalizer Nathan, it sounds more like “on dash”.
*From:* email@example.com <firstname.lastname@example.org> *On Behalf Of *Richard
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 27, 2021 12:38 PM
*Subject:* Re: Using hyphen
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It is saying “m dash” because a hyphen with a space on each side is an
“M dash” WHICH MEANS THE SHORT DASH.
If it were a long dash, it would say “N dash.”
So, Jaws is accurately reporting the punctuation name.
A hyphen, in strict terms, is used to join two words together, so if you
write hello-goodbye with no spaces jaws, like most screen readers says
“dash” when it really should say “hyphen”.
Dashes are used to separate words kind of like parenthesis.
A lot of authors seems to be using dashes in place of parenthesis, which
irritates me, but what is one going to do.
That is why when you split a word with more than one syllable between
lines you use a hyphen not a dash because the hyphen denotes that the
word is supposed to be joined.
But screen readers are not grammar teachers.
Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
realize that you are in a hurry.
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*From:* email@example.com <firstname.lastname@example.org> *On Behalf Of *Don Walls
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:23 AM
*Subject:* Re: Using hyphen
Is it perhaps not saying “on” but the letter “nn (as in Norman). If you
type a hyphen with a space each side of it, that’s what it reads.
*Sent:*Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:20 AM
I’m using Windows10 , Jaws2021 and Outlook2021 most recent versions.
Since the most recent update with Jaws2021 I will use a hyphen and when
it is between two letters with a space between it sounds like is saying
on. I then delete it and it then says dash.
Here is an example:
Hello – goodbye
Does this say on between the words? Has anyone encountered this issue?
Below is an example when I type the same as above, then delete the
hyphen and type it back in.
Hello - goodbye!
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