moderated Re: Parler
he wasn't rejected. he already signed a contract. the book was scheduled for release in June but after he made some comments supporting conservative views they labeled him as seditious and irresponsible and inciting violence and drop his book that's their own statement as to why they dropped them. and sure you can start your own platform it may be scene by 100 other people. And these big platforms like Facebook Twitter they change mines they effect ourculture. And if you're excluded from that platform you're silenced and that's the end of that. it is sad that people get so angry that they put the worst possible spend on whatever the people they hate say. even to the point of being irrational.toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On Jan 10, 2021, at 2:07 PM, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:
It does matter though – just because corporations are “big”, it doesn’t make them so different from the “little guys” online in the 80s and 90s, who would sometimes ban people just because they didn’t like them or they screwed up someothing once. It happened to me plenty of times. The great thing about the internet is that you don’t have to rely on a platoform like that – and if nobody wants to host your views on their platform, you can just create a new one, or pay someone to do it for you. Publishers reject work from famous people all the time – of course said people are likely to blame the people rejecting their work, and not themselves or the work they do. Getting rejected hurts. These online platforms have never stated they were open to any and all content.
As someone who has uh, occasionally engaged in somewhat sketchy things on the internet, I would like it if people adopted a more old-school attitude toward internet usage and been more willing to adopt different sorts of platforms. We don’t necessarily have to rely on these big corporations and their platforms. We just think about them all the time because they appear ubiquitous. But that won’t be forever. While some of these corporate rules sure are crap, a nice thing about living in the 21st century is that we are in a time when nearly everything really is available somewhere. We just have to detach ourselves from these big monopolies.
From: email@example.com <firstname.lastname@example.org> On Behalf Of Randy Barnett
it doesn't matter if it's a government or a couple of huge corporations. if they're able to stop you from getting your ideas out to people it is stopping free speech. Senator Holly's book was dropped by the publisher because he said the wrong things according to those in charge. when the only way to get ideas out in this modern world is via publishers Facebook YouTube Twitter and apparently Amazon those who control the servers. Then they are able to stifle free speech. It doesn't have to be a government to stifle free speech and free speech should be protected even from corporations.I'm platforms like YouTube Twitter One platforms like YouTube Twitter Facebook start deciding what can be and not be published on their pages they are a publisher and the rules for publishers are totally different from the rules for web platforms. They have to abide by those rules. As corporations now pretty much control all speech in this country.
Andy and All,
Keep in mind that it is not the government stopping anything, it is a private business doing this.
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Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: Parler
The long term consequences of stifling free speech would be a lot worse than any speech. The founders thought that free speech was so important that they made it the 1st amendment to the Constitution. Voltaire said, "I may disagree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it". i would suggest that you either read or reread George Orwell's "1984".