moderated Re: JAWS does not read selected text in Jarte


Mario
 

I tried this and JAWS does not identify the selected text. although the directions are clear, I don't believe I'm doing it wrong.

-------- Original Message --------
From: David Goldfield [mailto:david.goldfield@outlook.com]
To: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io>
Date: Friday, January 8, 2021, 6:01 PM
Subject: JAWS does not read selected text in Jarte
Hello. There is a workaround for the bug involving JAWS not identifying
selected text when in Jarte. Until the issue has been fixed you can use
the place markers feature to mark the beginning of a block of text with
ctrl+Windows+K. Next, move to the other end of the block of text and
press the layered keystroke insert+space key followed by the letter M.
Once this has been done you can delete, cut or copy the text. For best
results it is good to first save the document before issuing these
commands. Keyboard Manager can also be used to reassign these keys to
ones of your choosing. Users of Leasey <http://www.leaseycentral.com/>
already have additional keystrokes to mark text as well as copying and
even appending a block of text to the clipboard. Questions about these
matters should be sent to this list and not to me privately, please.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org <http://WWW.DavidGoldfield.org>

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 5:34 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>
Subject: Re: JAWS does not read selected text in Jarte

thanks for confirming that JAWS 2019 announces text being selected.

would you mind if I include this in my request to Vispero support?

-------- Original Message --------

From: David Goldfield [mailto:david.goldfield@outlook.com
<mailto:david.goldfield@outlook.com>]

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>

Date: Friday, January 8, 2021, 4:54 PM

Subject: JAWS does not read selected text in Jarte On another computer I
was able to confirm that selected text is not being identified with JAWS
2020. However, it works as expected with JAWS 2019.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidgoldfield.org%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca7adacd12d2d4958423b08d8b42582b1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637457420477387777%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=mpkhDTzfhD%2BfCazP9ay2o9V4RAUGuEpNzLOMNOhQyRc%3D&amp;reserved=0

<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidgoldfield.org%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca7adacd12d2d4958423b08d8b42582b1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637457420477387777%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=mpkhDTzfhD%2BfCazP9ay2o9V4RAUGuEpNzLOMNOhQyRc%3D&amp;reserved=0>

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Mario

Sent: Friday, January 8, 2021 12:00 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: Re: JAWS does not read selected text in Jarte

David, using JAWS 2020 with the latest update and the portable version
of Jarte, I have tried and experienced the same issue. I'm wondering if
it has to do with the highlighting that Jarte does (or lack of) when
selecting text?

enhanced edit mode has been disabled after opening the settings center
by launching it from pressing insert+f2.

anyone have an idea or fix?

-------- Original Message --------

From: David Goldfield [mailto:david.goldfield@outlook.com
<mailto:david.goldfield@outlook.com>]

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>>

Date: Thursday, January 7, 2021, 8:22 PM

Subject: JAWS does not read selected text in Jarte Mario, I am sorry to
tell you that I am able to verify your friend's findings, at least with
the January build of JAWS 2021. I've been a user of Jarte for many years
and I'm quite certain that this is a new regression. I don't have JAWS

2020 on this laptop or else I'd compare the results with that version.

I'm wondering if someone running JAWS

2020 or earlier can confirm this behavior.

A few things to note. In order to get JAWS to speak the location of the
caret or cursor from within Jarte enhanced editor mode should be
disabled within Settings Center but please do this once Jarte has been
opened to ensure that toggling this setting to off will not negatively
impact another program.

For reference when you press the shift key with arrow key navigation the
expected behavior is that you would hear the text which you are
highlighting, along with the word "selected." With Jarte text is being
selected but JAWS is silent while selection commands are being issued.

If others can confirm this behavior please do send a bug report to
support@vispero.com <mailto:support@vispero.com> with as much specific
information as you can

provide: version of JAWS, steps to reproduce, expected results and
actual results. 6.2 is the latest version of Jarte.

Please direct any responses about this to the list and not to me
privately as I am not able to provide individual support for Jarte or
with this issue, in general.

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidgoldfield.org%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca7adacd12d2d4958423b08d8b42582b1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637457420477387777%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=mpkhDTzfhD%2BfCazP9ay2o9V4RAUGuEpNzLOMNOhQyRc%3D&amp;reserved=0

<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidgoldfield.org%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca7adacd12d2d4958423b08d8b42582b1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637457420477387777%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=mpkhDTzfhD%2BfCazP9ay2o9V4RAUGuEpNzLOMNOhQyRc%3D&amp;reserved=0>

-----Original Message-----

From: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io> <main@jfw.groups.io
<mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>> On Behalf Of Mario

Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 8:03 PM

To: main@jfw.groups.io <mailto:main@jfw.groups.io>

Subject: JAWS does not read selected text in Jarte

an acquaintance is having a problem that I'm hoping someone can help.

he is using Jarte, and when he selects some text to delete, it is not
read back as selected like it does using Wordpad. he would prefer using
Jarte because he can start a new document by simply pressing control+n
and then use control+tab to switch to a different document.

I helped him disable Enhanced edit in the configuration for JAWS 2020 so
it is possible to review the text.

is there another setting that can be modified to fix this problem?

.

.

Join main@jfw.groups.io to automatically receive all group messages.