moderated Re: JAWS does not read selected text in Jarte

David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...>

David, your point is valid in that improving accessibility of Office would and arguably should be a higher priority to improving access to a word processor which has ceased development last year. Certainly, if you’re not a Jarte user then it’s understandable that letting Vispero know about this wouldn’t necessarily be a high priority for you. However, since many blind people do seem to use Jarte I would encourage all of them to contact Vispero about this since selecting text used to work as expected. I plan to do so myself but when it comes to reporting bugs there is something to be said for strength in numbers. If I’m the only one who reports this issue it may not go anywhere that quickly. If Vispero receives similar reports from many Jarte users that could help to push things up the chain just a bit faster.




David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist


From: <> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS does not read selected text in Jarte


This was a problem with Jarte in Jaws 2020 as well. I have just checked and it still it.

It was working with earlier versions of Jaws than that I think

Basically, a bit like Windows Mail   Jarte only works properly with NVDA now though it sort of usable with Narrator. It remains a very good  option with NVDA so this is a sort of workaround, there is certainly no problem with selected  text being announced.


At least I have finally got some feedback that the problem for Jaws causing windows Mail  to crash seems to have been finally acknowledged by support and they say that they have  escalated it. This is my main priority for Jaws functional improvement.


I could aske them to address the Jarte issue as well but I wonder what their attitude will be? Especially as Jarte is no longer being developed? They seem to prioritise , probably correctly on the Office Suite.


David G.

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From: David Goldfield
Sent: 08 January 2021 01:22
Subject: Re: JAWS does not read selected text in Jarte


Mario, I am sorry to tell you that I am able to verify your friend's findings, at least with the January build of JAWS 2021. I've been a user of Jarte for many years and I'm quite certain that this is a new regression. I don't have JAWS 2020 on this laptop or else I'd compare the results with that version. I'm wondering if someone running JAWS 2020 or earlier can confirm this behavior.

A few things to note. In order to get JAWS to speak the location of the caret or cursor from within Jarte enhanced editor mode should be disabled within Settings Center but please do this once Jarte has been opened to ensure that toggling this setting to off will not negatively impact another program.

For reference when you press the shift key with arrow key navigation the expected behavior is that you would hear the text which you are highlighting, along with the word "selected." With Jarte text is being selected but JAWS is silent while selection commands are being issued.

If others can confirm this behavior please do send a bug report to support@... with as much specific information as you can provide: version of JAWS, steps to reproduce, expected results and actual results. 6.2 is the latest version of Jarte.

Please direct any responses about this to the list and not to me privately as I am not able to provide individual support for Jarte or with this issue, in general.




David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist


-----Original Message-----

From: <> On Behalf Of Mario

Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 8:03 PM


Subject: JAWS does not read selected text in Jarte


an acquaintance is having a problem that I'm hoping someone can help.

he is using Jarte, and when he selects some text to delete, it is not read back as selected like it does using Wordpad. he would prefer using Jarte because he can start a new document by simply pressing control+n and then use control+tab to switch to a different document.


I helped him disable Enhanced edit in the configuration for JAWS 2020 so it is possible to review the text.

is there another setting that can be modified to fix this problem?











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