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Interesting. Wonder if you have something going on with display
drivers or some such. To me, programs other than Microsoft Office
aren't going to get the speech support, and if you've have to deal
with files from ms office, you'd better stick with it. Nothing is
more miserable than a botched file conversion, and you never know
how good conversions will actually be. I have found that
Libreoffice and other programs are useful when you hit files that
MS doesn't bother supporting anymore. I found a .wri file a while
back, and MS wouldn't read it even though it came from old Windows
Write. I used either Openoffice or Libreoffice and it had no
On 12/2/2020 10:51, Richard Turner
Well, with Jaws 2021 the menus read fine.
However, in case you didn’t know, the
“Support assistive technology tools (program restart required)
check box‑ checked‑ “ checks itself apparently when it
detects a screen reader.
I tried unchecking it, applying the
changes, hitting OK and restarting LibreOffice to see if it
made a difference and since it made no difference, I checked
again and low and behold, it was checked again without my
Conclusion, my system doesn’t like
It certainly isn’t unusable, and if I need
something other than Microsoft Office for a CSV file format or
something, I will use this, but for me, it would never replace
Microsoft Office. But, I am glad it is there for those who
cannot afford Microsoft’s products.
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There is an art, it says, or rather, a
knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw
yourself at the ground and miss."
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Aha..so there is. I had forgotten about
that. That still doesn’t make old JFW versions read the menus,
but hey…yeah, make sure that’s checked.
You might want to check to make sure
accessibility is set right in libre-ofice. I'm not having
the issues you mention about sluggishness or something
strange being spoken after character movement. There is an
accessibility section under tools/options, the first
checkbox probably needs checked.
On 12/2/2020 09:53,
Richard Turner wrote:
I’m pasting the link
to the help documentation online so you can read through
Also, it is very
sluggish with both Jaws and NVDA. There is a dealy
after each character when you arrow over it or when you
If I had to depend
on this for all my Office type needs, I think this would
Are there scripts or
settings that can be changed to help this?
Here is the help
Start Center (libreoffice.org)
"The Hitch Hiker's
Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
There is an art,
it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
Check out my web
*I’m not the card
I went to the
Libreoffice site but could not find out just what
is included in this suite. I know it has word
processing but what other aps are included?
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020
Subject: Re: Free word processors
and LibreOffice are very similar and they may
appear identical on the surface, especially for
users of screen readers. However, OpenOffice has a
very slow development cycle. LibreOffice receives
many more updates and feature additions and should
offer even better compatibility with more complex
Office files. Therefore, I highly recommend
LibreOffice over OpenOffice.
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
8:18 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
I would not
depend on Google Docs. Open Office works fine
until someone can get Word.I am not sure about
the other one that has been mentioned Libre or
something like that.
know," said Arthur, "it's at times like
this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock
with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die
of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really
wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
when I was young."
what did she tell you?"
know, I didn't listen."
Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The
never used Google Docs precisely because
of this problem but apparently checking on
Google last week there are instructions
for using Google docs offline. As far as I
can see though this is certainly not the
default and ironically you need to be
online to make this setting change. So I
imagine that if, for example, your Wi-Fi
suddenly goes down you may indeed be
locked out of all your documents.
who actually uses Google Docs may be able
to comment definitely on this though.
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Sent: 02 December 2020 09:20
Subject: Re: Free word
was such a great question. I know someone
who needs a different wordprocessor until
they can get MS Word again.
suggested Google Docs. A month or two ago,
I would not have recommended it. However,
this was because I never had any luck with
it. I was wondering, what if someone is
not always near a WI-FI connection, will
Google Docs still work, or would another
program work better? I'm just curious.
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Saturday, November 28, 2020 2:59 AM
Free word processors
all the latest talk about Jarte, and how
it may be going away eventually due to
lack of development, I was wondering what
other free word processors work well with
Jaws? How about Open Office or Libre