moderated Re: Free word processors


Chris Hill
 

Interesting.  Wonder if you have something going on with display drivers or some such.  To me, programs other than Microsoft Office aren't going to get the speech support, and if you've have to deal with files from ms office, you'd better stick with it.  Nothing is more miserable than a botched file conversion, and you never know how good conversions will actually be.  I have found that Libreoffice and other programs are useful when you hit files that MS doesn't bother supporting anymore.  I found a .wri file a while back, and MS wouldn't read it even though it came from old Windows Write.  I used either Openoffice or Libreoffice and it had no trouble.



On 12/2/2020 10:51, Richard Turner wrote:

Well, with Jaws 2021 the menus read fine.

However, in case you didn’t know, the “Support assistive technology tools (program restart required) check box‑ checked‑ “  checks itself apparently when it detects a screen reader.

I tried unchecking it, applying the changes, hitting OK and restarting LibreOffice to see if it made a difference and since it made no difference, I checked again and low and behold, it was checked again without my doing anything.

 

Conclusion, my system doesn’t like LibreOffice.

It certainly isn’t unusable, and if I need something other than Microsoft Office for a CSV file format or something, I will use this, but for me, it would never replace Microsoft Office.  But, I am glad it is there for those who cannot afford Microsoft’s products.

 

 

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 8:32 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free word processors

 

Aha..so there is. I had forgotten about that. That still doesn’t make old JFW versions read the menus, but hey…yeah, make sure that’s checked.

 

 

From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Hill
Sent: December 2, 2020 11:16 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free word processors

 

You might want to check to make sure accessibility is set right in libre-ofice.  I'm not having the issues you mention about sluggishness or something strange being spoken after character movement.  There is an accessibility section under tools/options, the first checkbox probably needs checked.

 

 

On 12/2/2020 09:53, Richard Turner wrote:

Two things.

I’m pasting the link to the help documentation online so you can read through its offerings.

 

Also, it is very sluggish with both Jaws and NVDA.  There is a dealy after each character when you arrow over it or when you type.

If I had to depend on this for all my Office type needs, I think this would get frustrating.

 

Are there scripts or settings that can be changed to help this?

Here is the help link:

Start Center (libreoffice.org)

 

 

Richard

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 7:45 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free word processors

 

I went to the Libreoffice site but could not find out just what is included in this suite. I know it has word processing but what other aps are included?

Thanks, Marie

 

 

From: David Goldfield

Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 5:25 AM

Subject: Re: Free word processors

 

Hi. OpenOffice and LibreOffice are very similar and they may appear identical on the surface, especially for users of screen readers. However, OpenOffice has a very slow development cycle. LibreOffice receives many more updates and feature additions and should offer even better compatibility with more complex Office files. Therefore, I highly recommend LibreOffice over OpenOffice.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
 
WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 12/2/2020 8:18 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I would not depend on Google Docs. Open Office works fine until someone can get Word.I am not sure about the other one that has been mentioned Libre or something like that.

Richard

 

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On Dec 2, 2020, at 2:02 AM, David Griffith mailto:daj.griffith@... wrote:



I have never used Google Docs precisely because of this problem but apparently checking on Google last week there are instructions for using Google docs offline. As far as I can see though this is certainly not the default and ironically you need to be online to make this setting change. So I imagine that if, for example, your Wi-Fi suddenly goes down you may indeed be locked out of all your documents.

Someone  who actually uses Google Docs may be able to comment definitely  on this though.

David G.

 

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From: Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: 02 December 2020 09:20
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Free word processors

 

Hi, Ann,

This was such a great question. I know someone who needs a different wordprocessor until they can get MS Word again.

Someone suggested Google Docs. A month or two ago, I would not have recommended it. However, this was because I never had any luck with it. I was wondering, what if someone is not always near a WI-FI connection, will Google Docs still work, or would another program work better? I'm just curious.

 

Sincerely,

Jasmine

 

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From: main@jfw.groups.io mailto:main@jfw.groups.io On Behalf Of ann

Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 2:59 AM

To: main@jfw.groups.io

Subject: Free word processors

 

                Hi everyone,

 

With all the latest talk about Jarte, and how it may be going away eventually due to lack of development, I was wondering what other free word processors work well with Jaws? How about Open Office or Libre Office?

 

Any other suggestions?

 

~Ann

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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