Re: Enterprise software


This is not about rhetoric, it is about the real world, and how predatory corporatists have taken over, and gained so much power that they are able to get employers to viciously attack workers who complain about the various cr*ppy aspects of enterprise software, and how its use destroys human decency in an organization.

To the predatory, psychopathic corporatist, accessibility is not something that deserves any real attention, they will pay a lot more money to make sure that their products are "compliant" for legal purposes than they pay to have them re-engineered so that actual average disabled people can use them (not test bots).

Style over substance.

Legal compliance vs. actual usability.

In the corporate ethos in which these products exist, caring about actual human beings (disabled or not) is only given lip service. What really matters is ego gratification, power and greed.

If you can provide significant proof that any of the enterprise products under discussion have improved their accessibility in a meaningful way in the last 5 years, I will donate $150 to any blind advocacy organization of your choice.


---- Original message ----
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 23:06:00 -0400
From: (on behalf of Adrian Spratt <>)
Subject: RE: Enterprise software
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <>

Hi, ipierce. I wouldn't have responded to your previous message if I lacked
the experience to counter it. I hesitated to continue this off-topic thread,
but I didn't want your post to discourage users of adaptive software from
asserting their needs. If you are an advocate of workers' rights, I wish you
well. Just try not to make the kind of assumption you did here and get too
caught up in your rhetoric.

-----Original Message-----
From: []
On Behalf Of
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Enterprise software

Given that employees (who are acting in good faith) have little or no real
legal protection from being attacked by enterprise software vendors with
political connections that have deeply evil motivations, it isn't apparent
to me why you would refer to the harsh realities involved in surviving in
the current, typically toxic workplace as "passivity".

I take it that you have no actual experience with worker representation, or
how accessibility is actually taken up in highly dysfunctional
organizational cultures.

The balance of power is usually overwhelmingly weighted against an employee
that dares to complain. Period.

Nothing will change until the existing, flawed architectures of the cash
cows products of large enterprise software vendors are redone from the
ground up with "accessibility built in". Until that paradigm shift takes
place (probably about the same time as world peace is established), the
vendors will viciously guard their profit centers and make sure that the
management (including the accessibility bureaucracy) of their customers
"buys in" to maintaining the status quo.

I hope you can "connect the dots" here. Again, the employee typically has
almost no power, and the employer and vendor have almost all the power.

A situation has evolved where customer management typically has a vested
interest in maintaining power by viciously suppressing any significant
internal criticism of problems with enterprise software.

I would be overwhelmed with happiness if you could cite cases to the
contrary of legal or administrative settlements that involve enterprise
software accessibility.

To give you some idea of the appalling climate for workers in many
organizations, please see the article at the following link:

"Is Your Boss a Psychopath?
Odds are you've run across one of these characters in your career. They're
glib, charming, manipulative, deceitful, ruthless -- and very, very
destructive. And there may be lots of them in America's corner offices."
BY Alan Deutschman

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