moderated Re: questions about jaws versions


Richard Turner
 

While you may hear a listing twice, you cannot have two versions of the same jaws version unless something got corrupted.Did you look at the folders on your c drive in the Program Data folder?



Richard
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On Nov 16, 2020, at 6:24 AM, Deb and the girls <debsoundandscent@...> wrote:

In the list of default programs.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 12:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: questions about jaws versions

Why do you think you have 2 versions of Jaws 2020, where do you see this?

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Deb and the girls
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 10:52 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: questions about jaws versions

       I seem to have two jaws 20 versions loaded on my laptop.  I
just deleted jaws 18 and 19 from my laptop successfully.  If I deleted the
earlier version of jaws 20, would the other one disappear as well?  Please
respond asap!
debsoundandscent@...
Thanks
Deb Ver Steeg

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:14 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Actually, you have to be on speech on demand and then press Jaws Key +
Spacebar followed by Shift + S and you then hear "Speech off set to speech
mute".
At that point Jaws is completely muted and Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S
will restore ful lspeech.
I was almost certain earlier when I tried this Jaws Key + Spacebar followed
by Shift + S worked directly, but now I am also getting the message "not
available in full speech mode" and I have to first go to speech on demand
before I can use the layered keystroke with Shift + S to fully mute Jaws.


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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharon
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 9:55 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

I tried this out:
When I press jaws and space bar and then shift s I get not available in full
speech mode.
Why?
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2020 12:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Just a bit more about Full speech, speech on demand and speech muted:
As Jasmine pointed out, pressing Jaws Key + Spacebar followed by S invokes
Speech on Demand which limits what Jaws will speak and it is something
braille display users often use because they want less speech, but still
some speech.
If you want to mute Jaws entirely, you can do this by pressing Jaws Key +
Spacebar followed by Shift + S As soon as you press this key combination
Jaws will be totally muted until you again press Jaws Key + Spacebar
followed by S which restores full speech.

As for the keyboard shortcut which didn't work to bring up Jaws, you should
first go to your Jaws shortcut on the desktop, press Alt + Enter to bring up
the properties and tab twice to check if somehow the keyboard shortcut you
set was removed. If you hear the following:
Shortcut key: Hot key
Control + Alt + J
To define the hotkey Type the keystroke combination.
Then your keyboard shortcut is set, if so not sure why it didn't work, but
as Brian suggested, maybe delete it and reassign it. Personally I prefer
Control + Shift + J, somehow I find it easier to press that key combination
than Control + Alt + J, but that is very subjective.
Also keep in mind that reloading Jaws is not instant, when I just tried it
it took about 7 or 8 seconds before Jaws started speaking after I pressed
the keyboard shortcut.

One alternative to bring up Jaws was already given, press Windows + R and
type Jaws2021 (or whatever your version is), make sure you don't insert a
space between Jaws and the version number, it has to be all without spaces.
You can also press Windows Key + M, I often do it twice just to be sure,
this minimizes all programs and takes me to the desktop. As long as Jaws is
the only shortcut you have which starts with J you can then just press J and
enter and Jaws should also start.
Lastly, if you are using Windows 10, you should be able to simply press the
Windows key to bring up the search box and type "JFW" which is the name of
the program file, jfw.exe. Don't include the .exe, just type JFW and press
enter, for me this also starts Jaws. This would, however, potentially be a
problem on a machine with 2 or more Jaws versions since the application
files are all called JFW.exe. I assume it would still work, but which
version of Jaws you get is probably anybody's guess. But if as you say you
only have 1 Jaws version on your computer this should also work and strictly
by how many keys you have to press it is easier than Windows Key + R and
typing Jaws2021 or Jaws2020.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:20 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Insert+ , then s is a toggle between speak on command or full speech.
While watching a video, use insert+space then s and jaws will be silent
unless you press a reading command like insert+up arrow.
When the video is done, press insert+space then s again and Jaws will say
full speech and you'll be back in business.

There was something odd going on with Jaws 2019 and 2020 on my system where
none of the hotkeys on my desktop worked.
So far with Jaws 2021 they are working again.
Otherwise, the Windows+r then JawsXXXX where the x's are replaced with your
jaws version works quite well.



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-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:12 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

No Jasmin, I only have the one version. Does this command (insert space s)
just mute Jaws, or would it mute the speech in the video that I'm watching
as well?

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From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jasmine Kotsay
Sent: November 14, 2020 6:07 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Jaws command question

Hi, Madison,
To help you better, I have a couple of questions for you. First, do you have
any other versions of JAWS on your computer? If so, it may be that the
shortcut is only set for the previous version. Another thing is that if you
want to mute speech, you can press Insert+Space, then the letter S. Hope
this helps!

Sincerely,
Jasmine

-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Madison Martin
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:03 PM
To: jfw@groups.io
Subject: Jaws command question

Hi all,
Today I was watching a Youtube video, and Jaws kept talking so I couldn't
hear the people in the video very well. So I turned Jaws using insert f4.
Well after the video was finished I tried to turn Jaws on using control alt
j, but it didn't work, my Dad had to click on Jaws. Now I know I have the
command set, so I'm not sure why it doesn't work. Any ideas? Is there any
other way I can turn Jaws on myself? If Jaws isn't working then my Braille
display doesn't work either (not sure if this is normal or not) so I don't
even know where I am.
I hardly ever turn Jaws off, but I'd still like to know why the command to
turn it on doesn't work. Running Jaws 2018. Look forward to any suggestions
anyone can provide!! Thanks Madison





















































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