-----Original Message-----
From: Deb and the girls
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 3:29 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta Report Link

Amen to the idea that these companies need to work toward overcoming proprietary software problems that most companies continually have due to upgrades and new technology. My fear is that if Freedom Scientiffic and others do not stay at the top of their game, blind persons will be losing their jobs through no fault of their employers and no fault of theirs; but the result of technologies not allowing the blind employee to compete equally with sighted piers.

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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Larry Wayland
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 5:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta Report Link

In my opinion, we have been dealing with computer accessibility since the early 80's, and I think it is high time companies make this stuff work and work right. Too many blind people are not working because of the lack of accessibility to work sites. If they are working now and have good accessibility they are always concerned about what is going to happen after the next update. I am not jumping on the developers of access software necessarily. the developers of the operating systems are mostly to blame and then of course the developers of software packages for the work sites.
Larry


-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of soner
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 1:50 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: JAWS2021 Beta Report Link

Mr. Hill, my aim is not to discuss the strength or weaknesses of any screen reading software, but to point at a blatant exploitation of a defacto monopoly. So, I do not think that it is as simple as to say love or leave.

On 9/11/20, Chris Hill <hillco@...> wrote:

You could happily use a three or four year old version of jaws, if you
didn't get online, didn't allow windows to upgrade and didn't use
office 365, otherwise, you can either pay or switch to nvda. I'll
pay, if NVDA did all I wanted it to do, I could save some money, but
as far as I can tell, there are still things I need that it doesn't do
so there it is. I'm grateful for jaws, having tried nvda, and tried a
mac and left lacking the access I want on both. Nothing is perfect,
but of the three, jaws is still the best for what I do. Others who
want or need less can probably save themselves a ton of money.





On 9/11/2020 13:25, soner wrote:

When you divide one feature into bits and pieces and scale it to
versions and eat up people's SMas and ask for upgrade to avail the
remaining parts of one feature introduced in the past, this makes
nothing but a fact clear that this is a sheer robbery. But of course,
we are almost unlikely to hear any American blindness advocating
foundation to bring this years of version proliferation issue to the
court.

My last words to you the Americans, wake up and beware what's going
on with your versions and how they're eaten up guys!

On 9/11/20, soner via groups.io <soner.boun@...> wrote:

Hi, I am almost sure that the voluntary FS lawyers in the list will
keep flooding and trolling upon this feed-back, but I cannot help
stating that this version is a joke, and FS makes it for years. I
really would like to know, what is/are the major change/changes
making this version to be called 21?

On 9/11/20, Mike B <mb69mach1@...> wrote:

Hi All,

Below is a note about Jaws2021 Beta tech support and the link to
the Beta report page.

While in public beta, general technical support of JAWS, ZoomText,
or Fusion

2021 is not available using our direct support phone lines or email.
However,
you may use normal support lines in order to resolve any problems
you experience related to installation or authorization using the
Public Beta.
For all
other issues you may discover, we ask that you send feedback
directly to Freedom Scientific using the Beta Report Form web page.
Please bookmark the report page in your web browser so that you can
easily locate it if you need technical assistance.
Also, please submit one
problem per report.

https://support.freedomscientific.com/Forms/FSBetaReport



Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go dodgers!