moderated Re: android vs ios.

Tyler Wood


This is all down to personal preference.

While Android devices don’t get as many software updates as iOS devices, the screen reader still receives updates independently of the software version, which means that, in a lot of cases, changes to Talkback can be pushed out more quickly and efficiently instead of waiting for iOS updates.

A lot of good things on both sides now, though. You can snatch up a budget Android phone, like the Moto g 7 or moto e series for less than an iPhone SE and get really good performance for most tasks, apart from being just a little slower in things like OCR. You can then pop in a Micro sd card to add some cheap storage.

Both companies are cracking down on security, and while apple is the most talked about in regards to assistive technology, Android is right up there in regards to most tasks that users perform on a handset. It really depends what you want out of a phone. I still have a Samsung Galaxy s4 from 2013. It’s running Android 5.1 – we’re now on Android 10 – and while it may not be the quickest, it still gets around just fine for most tasks. It also isn’t my daily driver – that is a OnePlus 6t which I love along with an iPhone 7. Apple really has software longevity on older devices going for it. That’s a huge plus, especially when someone spends money on one of their more flagship devices like the upcoming iPhone 12.

Android also allows one to do stereo recording in audio for those that like that sort of thing. I like having a file browser similar to my computer where I can copy and paste files wherever I may choose. I like copying files directly to the phone over USB with the computer rather than going through iTunes. I don’t like that companies make Android such an afterthought – voice dream reader has yet to release an actual change log for what has been added for Android, for instance, meanwhile iOS gets amazingly detailed ones. I like that iOS now has custom gestures. So many positives to both sides.


From: <> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: android vs ios.


Nowadays both Android and iOS take from each other, there are just so many good ideas these developers have and it's of course normal that if Android developers come up with an awsome idea that iOS may implement something very similar and vice versa.

I think there is very little point to bash one platform over the other just as there is no point in bashing Jaws over NVDA or the other way around or Windows over Mac OS etc.

All of these platforms and systems nowadays are mature, advanced and it's good people have choices. I personally prefer iOS and Apple has given users many options to customize the UI. In iOS 14 they are going a step further by allowing users to change their default mail client and browser so if you wanted you could set Outlook as your default mail program or use Edge or Chrome as your default browser.

Once again, this is just my opinion, but Apple's control over both hardware and software has many good sides as well, their walled garden approach makes iOS somewhat less prone to exploits, a lot fewer devices make it easier for app developers to keep up with changes and one big thing for me is how Apple supports older devices for years and years with the latest software. In the most recent WWDC keynote Apple announced that iOS 14 will still support the iPhone 6S/6S Plus and the original iPhone SE, this means phones which were released in 2015 get the newest OS released in 2020. Not including iOS 9 which came with the iPhone 6S/6S Plus this is 5 major updates and support for 6 versions of iOS if you count the original iOS 9. If somebody bought an iPhone 6S in the fall of 2015 this means by the fall of 2021 when iOS 15 comes out and when, I assume, the iPhone 6S will not be supported any more, you can use your iPhone for 6 years and have the latest OS version. Of course you won't have all the features of the last couple of versions as iPhone 6S hardware may not support some of the newer stuff, but that is still impressive and very different from the more fractured landscape of Android where carriers may not push new updates beyond the first year or two.

I have a friend in Germany who bought an iPhone 5S in 2013 and every time a new phone comes out as recently the new iPhone SE he thinks about upgrading and then he says that for what he does his iPhone 5S works so well and he like sthe smaller form factor so much that he ends up not doing it. He had the battery replaced once in that time and I think even the biggest Android fan must admit that it's impressive that you can still use an almost 7-year old device.

Of course personally I also never recommend people buy a new iPhone now as we are only 3 months and possible a bit less away from the new 2020 phones being released. If you do definitely buy the new SE (if you are looking for a budget phone) or maybe last year's iPhone 11, but given the rumours and even some of what Apple has recently confirmed with respect to the iPhone 12 this fall, I would totally hold off. For one thing if you do plan to keep your phone for years to come, the iPhone 12 series phones will have 5G support which will be rolling out over the next couple of years and it would seem that Apple will actually drop the price by $50 as well as include a 20 Watt fast charger and Lightning to USB-C cable, another $50 value unless the iPhone 12 of course switches from Lightning to USB-C in the frist place.


Best regards,



From: <> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 12:33 AM
Subject: Re: android vs ios.


I use both an Android phone with Talkback and an iPhone with voice over! It was just as hard to learn Voiceover as it was to learn Talkback. Also Android 11, which will come out in the fall, will have a lot of the same multi-finger gestures as Voiceover. Android is better because you can use third party apps instead of using just what Apple will let you use. You can customize your Android phone much more, and what do you know, Ios 14 is adding the app drawer just like android. IOS 14 is taking from Android and Google. What range of phone are you using? please join the ANATAD list. It standds for Android apps news talk and deals.
it is a very helpful list with a weekly podcast called the anatad podcast that you can find with any podcast service. You need a good phone, even with Android. Please email me off list. I will give you plenty of tutorials and the truth about both the iPhone and Android.
David Moore


On Sat, Jun 27, 2020, 2:23 AM Patrick Murphy <murphy.patrick42@...> wrote:

hi folks,


i know that this is not the forum for this question, but maybe one of you good people might have some ideas as to where i should go.

currently, i have an old nokia phone about 300 years of age.

i have decided to take the great leap into the unknown and start using a modern tap screen phone.

i have a samsung android phone with talkback on it, but it is proving to be somewhat of a trouble.

i would say, that it is just because i am new to it, but web sites offering training tips seem to be non existent.

also, the braille keyboard seems to be a bit of a pain. i also dont want to have to attach a keyboard to it, as this defeats the purpose of having a phone you can carry around with you.

on the other hand, i have heard, that apple's voice over is much better.

again, training seems to be the problem. i should be able to get my hands on an ifone.

any thoughts?

anyone prefer one over the other?




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