Moderated Re: Reading pdfs with confidence
Russell Solowoniuk
Hi all,
I've had this beef with JAWS and reading PDF documents forever! In a long
PDF, when you press CTRL plus PageDown to go to the next page, the focus
ends up somewhere in the middle of the next page instead of at the top of
the page, so I must first give the CTRL plus Home command to go to the top
of the page before starting to read the page. I've written to FS about this
issue several times, but they never seem to bother fixing it. NVDA, on the
other hand, places focus at the top of the next page when pressing CTRL plus
PageDown, so it is possible to do. I guess FS doesn't think it's important
enough to worry about. Very frustrating!
Thanks,
Russell
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I've had this beef with JAWS and reading PDF documents forever! In a long
PDF, when you press CTRL plus PageDown to go to the next page, the focus
ends up somewhere in the middle of the next page instead of at the top of
the page, so I must first give the CTRL plus Home command to go to the top
of the page before starting to read the page. I've written to FS about this
issue several times, but they never seem to bother fixing it. NVDA, on the
other hand, places focus at the top of the next page when pressing CTRL plus
PageDown, so it is possible to do. I guess FS doesn't think it's important
enough to worry about. Very frustrating!
Thanks,
Russell
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 4:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence
Sometimes, you have to try something else instead of
Infer reading order from document (recommended)
This means choosing from one of the two remaining options,
Left-to-right, top-to-bottom reading order
Use reading order in raw print stream
Usually, if you choose one of the other two options, it renders the pdf
better than
Infer reading order from document
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence
When I have tried this in the past many spaces between words were omitted
causing run-on words.
Haven't tried it in a few years.
Tony
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 1:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence
Hi, Rahul. Instead of reading the pdf in Word, Press CONTROL A to select
all, copy all the text into Notepad, and try reading it as text.
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul
Bajaj
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence
Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own
accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and
has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where
I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some
vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does
anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into
word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into
word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very
hard. So what can one do?
Rahul
From: main@jfw.groups.io <main@jfw.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 4:01 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence
Sometimes, you have to try something else instead of
Infer reading order from document (recommended)
This means choosing from one of the two remaining options,
Left-to-right, top-to-bottom reading order
Use reading order in raw print stream
Usually, if you choose one of the other two options, it renders the pdf
better than
Infer reading order from document
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 1:21 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence
When I have tried this in the past many spaces between words were omitted
causing run-on words.
Haven't tried it in a few years.
Tony
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill White
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 1:42 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Reading pdfs with confidence
Hi, Rahul. Instead of reading the pdf in Word, Press CONTROL A to select
all, copy all the text into Notepad, and try reading it as text.
Bill White
billwhite92701@...
-----Original Message-----
From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rahul
Bajaj
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 11:39 AM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Reading pdfs with confidence
Hi. I open PDFs in Adobe Reader. JAWS sometimes jumps around of its own
accord in pdfs, especially when transitioning from one page to another. and
has to be redirected. Even jaws 2020. While I am able to bring it back where
I need to when it jumps, I remain quite worried. That I might miss some
vital info or internalize it wrongly if I fail to notice the jump. Does
anyone else face this? How do you get around it? Converting every pdf into
word is not very viable.. and can muff up footnotes. Copy pasting it into
word makes a 10 page pdf a 30 page word doc. And makes quick reading very
hard. So what can one do?
Rahul