moderated Re: Antivirus software.

Glenn / Lenny

This is interesting, I haven't been able to send eMail because my ISP apparently blocked me sending because of a virus.
I just did a full Eset scan on Monday and it found nothing.
I have Malware Bytes still installed.
So I checked Security Essentials, and it hasn't been updated in a while.
I thought it should always do that, but apparently it must have been turned off by something.
I'm using Windows 7.
So last night I updated security essentials and started a full scan, and today I checked it and it had found two Trojans, so I cleaned those.
Now I may need for my ISP to unlock my mailbox before the list gets this.
So it seems Microsoft's scanner is good, if it does not get shut off, which perhaps a virus did, or one of the other two programs that scan for viruses did.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: Antivirus software.

I never really anticipated Malwarebytes as a  replacement  for anti-virus software either.

To be honest it has been years and years since I have had  any such problems which has probably made me complacent. 

I installed Malwarebytes without any real expectation of having to use it,  rather because I bought it years ago and thought it was silly not to use it as a form of insurance.

On my Desktop it has never been used.

Really I was relying on Windows Defender for anti virus which was why I was surprised that Malwarebytes flagged up a Trojan that Windows Defender was oblivious of. For reason stated earlier I am convinced this was not a false positive.

I am happy to be corrected  but my understanding is that trojans are viruses rather than simple browser based Malware code.

As I say I used to use ESET Smart Secuirty for years also but could not see the point in continuing to use a product that I could increasingly not accessibly interact with. lp to deal with it which defeats the point really.


David Griffith




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From: David Goldfield
Sent: 09 June 2020 23:55
Subject: Re: Antivirus software.


MalwareBytes claims that the latest 4.X releases can be used as an antivirus program (not the free, on-demand only version.) However, because they don't use standard definition or signature files I feel a bit jittery depending on it as my main security tool. Their reasons for why this is a nonissue are somewhat compelling and I realize that standard definition files are not the only way to protect a computer. Still I am not comfortable using it as my sole or even my primary security tool.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

On 6/9/2020 12:55 PM, Blind Tech tutorials And Tips wrote:


You can use malware bites, it is about 90% accessible, and mostly useable, and it is a very strong anti-virus software, most prefer it ove others. Yes windows defender is the most accessible, but if you want a better antivirus, that is accessible 90% of the time and is much more secure than windows defender, I would go for malware bites.


On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 8:20 PM david Jennette <dcjenn@...> wrote:

I sent this an hour or so ago but didn’t see it post to the list so I’m going to try again. Sorry if you all get the message a second time.

I’m wondering if windows defender is still the best antivirus software to use with jaws or if there are now other packages that are accessible now. I figured I’d ask because some time has passed and things might have changed. Thanks.


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