Moderated Re: Antivirus software.

David Griffith

Ironically Malwarebytes notified me last night that it had again updated to the latest version of its database so 1.7 is definitely still being updated but of course I have set it to never update the actual program, only the database.

It definitely helped me last week. I suspected a false positive given the complete lack of awareness by Windows Defender but the following convinced me otherwise.

  1. It specifically named the Trojan.
  2. 2. It struggle mightily to quarantine it from the VLC Directories but was constantly failing at first given an warning message about this failure about every 30 seconds or so.
  3. When I uninstalled VLC the uninstall failed to removed the directories Malwarebytes was pointing to as infected.
  4. When I tried to  delete these folders manually  Windows told me I could not as they were being used by another process -  - classic virus indication. No program but VLC had any business  accessing these folders and it had already been uninstalled.
  5. Luckily a full scan by Malwarebytes resulted in it successfully removing the trojan from memory/registry although I would have to go back to the log files to find out which bits were infected.
  6. After the full scan and cleaning of the memory/registry I was then, as a fail safe, able to delete the offending remaining Videoland directory without any problem which also reassured me that whatever the process was that was preventing deletion had been cleaned out by Malwarebytes.

I was very glad I had kept 1.7  as an accessible version.


David Griffith


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From: David Goldfield
Sent: 10 June 2020 00:01
Subject: Re: Antivirus software.


Hi. I'm actually surprised that MalwareBytes is still maintaining the

1.7 branch. While it's true that some future versions may have had some

accessibility challenges the 4.x version which I last tried three months

was reasonably accessible. It might be worth installing it to see how

well it performs, considering that its capabilities have certainly

improved since V1.7.


David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019


On 6/6/2020 7:00 PM, David Griffith wrote:

> I have heard a lot about how Windows Defender has improved.  So much so I

> abandoned the ESET Smart security subscription I had because of

> deteriorating accessibility.

> I have however kept my old 1.7 version of Malwarebytes going and resisted

> program upgrade to maintain accessibility although I let the virus database

> keep up to date.

> Thank goodness I did. During the last week Malwarebytes identified a Trojan

> on my laptop that Windows Defender  was completely oblivious of despite my

> performing a complete Windows Defender scan after the Malwarebytes alert.

> I turned to Windows Defender as Initially Malwarebytes was struggling and

> failing to quarantine this Trojan threat.

> On investigation it had infected   one of the plug-in directories of

> Videoland VLC. Uninstalling VLC did not succeed in removing the offending

> files and predictably trying to delete  these files manually also failed as

> Windows identified them as being used by another process.

> Eventually a full scan by Malwarebyte was able to remove this trojan from my

> registry in memory and I was finally able to also delete the offending VLC

> directories as a failsafe.

> What was more concerning was the fact that Windows Defender was completely

> unaware of this problem and failed to react.

> David Griffith

> -----Original Message-----

> From: <> On Behalf Of david Jennette

> Sent: 06 June 2020 23:37

> To:

> Subject: Antivirus software.

> Hi. I've asked this a few years ago but I figured it's time to ask again do

> to things changing. I'm wondering if Windows defender is still the most

> accessible antivirus software or if there are others now that work well with

> Jaws. Thanks.





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